1v1 [ORAS] Greninja

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[OVERVIEW]

Greninja’s great offensive Water / Dark typing, exceptional abilities in Protean and Torrent, and blistering Speed make it a great pick in the metagame, allowing it to overwhelm popular threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. This is bolstered by its large movepool, circumventing normally good checks like Mega Venusaur, Genesect, and Ferrothorn. A Substitute + Torrent set adds onto its unpredictability, empowering its offensive capabilities against Pokemon like specially defensive Mega Charizard X, Mega Charizard Y, and Mega Metagross. Moreover, the benefits of not being Choice-locked allow it to deter previous checks via Taunt and Toxic, the most notable mentions being Chansey and Reflect Type Mega Latias. However, Greninja’s lackluster bulk leaves much to be desired, easily causing it to be taken out from super effective attacks and strong neutral attacks like Kyurem-B’s Outrage, Mega Gyarados’s Outrage, and Choice Specs Hoopa-U's Thunderbolt. While Greninja has impressive Speed, offensive Pokemon like Mega Lopunny and Choice Scarf users like Kyurem-B, Genesect, and Victini outspeed it.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Cannon
move 2: Grass Knot / Extrasensory / Dark Pulse
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power [Fire] / Extrasensory / Hidden Power [Electric]
item: Choice Specs
ability: Protean
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

Moves
========

Hydro Cannon is Greninja’s Water-type STAB move of choice and can easily KO offensive Mega Charizard X, Choice Specs Genesect, and Diancie. Grass Knot can handle Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Extrasensory lets Greninja deal respectable damage against Mega Venusaur and Choice Band Sawk. Dark Pulse deals with Psychic- and Ghost-types like Mega Metagross, Mega Latias, and Aegislash. Ice Beam gives Greninja amazing coverage, nailing Dragon- and Ground-types like Mega Altaria, Dragonite, Choice Band Garchomp, and Landorus-T. Hidden Power Fire is Greninja’s best option against non-Choice Scarf Genesect, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Hidden Power Electric is effective against Mega Gyarados, being able to OHKO prior to Mega Evolving.

Set Details
========

Maximum Special Attack and Speed EVs allow Greninja to hit as strong and fast as possible. A Timid nature ensures Greninja can outspeed Pokemon like Mega Diancie, Terrakion, and Mega Latias. Protean gives Greninja STAB on any move, giving it extra power against the foe.

Strategy & Support
========

Choice Specs Greninja is simple to use, as Hydro Cannon is powerful and hits most Pokemon that don’t resist it. This variant of Greninja has trouble dealing with Pokemon that can live Hydro Cannon like Kyurem-B, specially defensive Mega Charizard X, and Mega Gardevoir; because of this, you should try to avoid these Pokemon. Use Hidden Power Fire and Grass Knot on targets that usually defeat Greninja like Ferrothorn and Mega Swampert, respectively, which might be lured in. Due to its frailty, it should also avoid Choice Scarf Pokemon like Kyurem-B, Porygon-Z, Genesect, and Victini. Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross are great offensive partners that benefit from Greninja drawing in and handling bulky Water- and Fire-types such as Mega Gyarados, Mega Slowbro, and non-Endure Heatran. In return, they can handle Sturdy Pokemon like Crustle and Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny and Sawk, as well as special walls like Chansey. A solid answer to specially defensive Mega Charizard X is appreciated, as Greninja doesn’t have sufficient firepower to handle it. Air Balloon Heatran and Crustle are all capable of taking hits from Mega Charizard X and revenge killing it. In return, Greninja can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Choice Band Kyurem-B is a great offensive partner, as it helps Greninja deal with unfavorable matchups such as against bulky Meloetta, Magnezone, and Hoopa-U. In return, Kyurem-B benefits from Greninja taking care of Steel-types like Air Balloon Heatran, Choice Specs Genesect, and Ferrothorn.

[SET]
name: Petaya
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hydro Cannon
move 3: Haze
move 4: Toxic / Taunt
item: Petaya Berry
ability: Torrent
nature: Timid
evs: 160 Def / 188 SpA / 160 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Substitute is the flagship of this set, allowing Greninja to reliably defeat Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y by using it until Torrent and Petaya Berry are activated. Hydro Cannon is indispensable for this set, using its immense 150-Base Power on top of STAB, boosted by Torrent and Petaya Berry, to deal tremendous amounts of damage against non-resistant foes. Haze allows Greninja to have a favorable matchup against Flame Charge and Dragon Dance variants of Mega Charizard X as well as Calm Mind Mega Latias when utilized with Toxic. Toxic is useful against non-Rest variants of Mega Slowbro and Mega Latias. Taunt is useful for pinning down stall Pokemon like Mew and Jumpluff.

Set Details
========

160 Defense EVs are crucial so that Greninja can survive a Flame Charge from Mega Charizard X while using Substitute. 160 Speed EVs with a Timid nature let Greninja outspeed Mega Metagross, Mega Diancie and Jumpluff. The remaining EVs are put into Special Attack to let Greninja hit as hard as possible. Petaya Berry allows Greninja to continuously use Substitute until Torrent is activated, letting it fire off a potent Hydro Cannon.

Strategy & Support
========

Focus on Pokemon slower than Greninja that don’t resist Hydro Cannon and stall Pokemon that are weak to Taunt like Mew and Jumpluff. When against Mega Charizard X, first use Substitute so you don’t get OHKOed by Outrage; if the opposing Pokemon uses Flame Charge, proceed to use Haze to get rid of the Speed boost so you are always faster than it, and use the same method as followed until you reach 25% health, as Petaya Berry and Torrent will have activated and you can OHKO it with Hydro Cannon. Avoid Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Make sure not to Haze away your Petaya Berry boost, as the power drop is significant without it. This set is reliant on setting up with Substitute, so ideally having Pokemon that can deal with faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users like Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Porygon-Z make excellent partners. Therefore, Pokemon like Mega Metagross, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Heracross pair up well. In return, Greninja can deter Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y from being sent out against them. Mega Metagross in particular has excellent synergy with Greninja, as it deals with Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Pokemon that can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Gyarados, Rest Mega Slowbro, and Mega Blastoise complement Greninja well. Examples include Choice Band Kyurem-B, Mega Venusaur, and Serperior. In return, Greninja deals with Fire-types like Victini and Kee Berry Volcarona.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Thanks to its ability Protean, Greninja has a diverse amount of sets at its disposal. Greninja can opt to run a Choice Band set with Low Kick for Kyurem-B, Rock Tomb for Mega Charizard Y, and Gunk Shot for Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir. However, its other sets are more useful and cover the metagame better. A set with Modest nature and a Choice Scarf can handle other Choice Scarf Pokemon like Garchomp, Genesect, Victini. Despite this, the power drop is enormous and is very niche apart from handling these Pokemon. Hidden Power Ground can defeat Magnezone but is useless apart from this. A Life Orb set can be run to have more leverage, as it is no longer Choice-locked, but it loses power compared to other sets. If using Life Orb, then Shadow Sneak can be run to avoid being hit by Hyper Beam and Close Combat from Choice-item Porygon-Z and Sawk respectively.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Greninja is vulnerable to powerful STAB moves and super effective moves from faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users such as Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Victini.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Despite Greninja’s unpredictability, there are some Pokemon that even both of its sets struggle against like specially defensive Mega Mawile, Mega Venusaur, Hoopa-U, Chansey, and Registeel, although it should be mentioned that even Mega Venusaur struggles against the possibility of Greninja running Extrasensory.

**Sturdy**: Sturdy users like Golem and Crustle are especially problematic for Greninja due to their ability to tank a hit and retaliate using their strong STAB moves.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[PA, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[LittleRunnerXC, 289008], [DEG, 234355]
- Grammar checked by: [[Milak, 262594], [Estronic, 240732]]
 
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[OVERVIEW]
- Greninja’s good offensive typing, exceptional ability in Protean, and blistering speed make it a great pick in the metagame allowing it to overwhelm popular threats such as Mega Slowbro, Dragonite, and Heatran.
- This is bolstered by its large movepool, circumventing normally good checks like Mega Slowbro, Mega Venusaur, and Ferrothorn.
- A Substitute + Torrent set adds unto its unpredictability, empowering its offensive capabilities against Pokemon like specially defensive Mega Charizard X, Mega Metagross, and Mega Mawile.
- However, Greninja’s lackluster bulk leaves much to be desired, easily being taken out from super effective attacks and strong neutral attacks like Kyurem-B’s Outrage, Mega Gyarados’s Outrage, and bulky Meloetta’s Choice Specs Uproar.
- While Greninja has impressive speed, it is still outsped by offensive Pokemon like Mega Lopunny and Choice Scarf users like Garchomp, Genesect, and Victini.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Cannon
move 2: Grass Knot / Extrasensory / Dark Pulse
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power [Fire] / Extrasensory / Hidden Power [Electric]
item: Choice Specs
ability: Protean
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

- Hydro Cannon is Greninja’s Water-type STAB of choice and can easily KO offensive Mega Charizard X, Choice Specs Genesect, and Diancie.
- Grass Knot can handle Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert.
- Extrasensory lets Incineroar deal respectable damage against Mega Venusaur and Choice Band Sawk.
- Dark Pulse deals with Psychic- and Ghost-types like Mega Metagross, Mega Latias, and Aegislash.
- Ice Beam gives Greninja amazing coverage, nailing Dragon-types and Ground-types like Choice Band Garchomp, Mega Altaria, Dragonite, and Landorus-T.
- Hidden Power Fire is Greninja’s best option against Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor.
- Hidden Power Electric is effective when against Mega Gyarados being able to OHKO its pre-mega.

Set Details
========

- Maximum Special Attack and Speed EVs allow Greninja to hit as strong and fast as possible.
- A Timid nature ensures Greninja can outspeed Pokemon like Mega Diancie, Terrakion, and Mega Latias.
- Protean gives Greninja STAB on any move it clicks on, giving it extra power against the foe.
Is Modest on Specs Greninja not an option? I honestly forgot what it is supposed to handle, but maybe look into it a bit as it is often ran

Usage Tips
========

- Choice Specs Greninja is simple to use, as Hydro Cannon is powerful and hits most Pokemon that don’t resist its attacks.
- This variant of Greninja has trouble dealing with Pokemon that can live Hydro Cannon like Kyurem-B, specially defensive Mega Charizard X, and Mega Gardevoir, because of this you should try to avoid Pokemon like this.
- Use Hidden Power Fire and Grass Knot on targets like Ferrothorn and Mega Swampert, which usually defeat Greninja, and as a result, might be lured in.
- Due to it being frail, it should also avoid Choice Scarf Pokemon like Kyurem-B, Porygon-Z, and Victini.

Team Options
========

- Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross are great offensive partners that benefit from Greninja drawing in and handling bulky Water- and Fire-types such as Mega Gyarados, Heatran, and Mega Slowbro. In return, they can handle Bug- and Fighting-types like Crustle, Mega Lopunny, and Sawk, and special walls like Chansey.
- A solid answer to specially defensive Mega Charizard X is appreciated, as Greninja doesn’t have sufficient firepower to handle them. Air Balloon Heatran and Crustle are all capable of taking hits from Mega Charizard X and revenge killing it. In return, Greninja can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert.
- Choice Band Kyurem-B is a great offensive partner, as it helps it deal with unfavourable matchups in bulky Meloetta, Magnezone, and Hoopa-U. Kyurem-B benefits from Greninja taking care of Steel-types like Air Balloon Heatran, Choice Specs Genesect, and Ferrothorn.

[SET]
name: Petaya
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hydro Cannon
move 3: Haze
move 4: Taunt / Toxic
item: Petaya Berry
ability: Torrent
nature: Timid
evs: 160 Def / 188 SpA / 160 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

- Substitute is the main flagship of this set, allowing Greninja to reliably defeat Mega Charizard X and Y by using Substitute until in range of Torrent and Petaya is activated.
- Hydro Cannon is indispensable for this set, using its immense 150-Base Power on top of STAB, boosted by Torrent and Petaya, to deal tremendous amounts of damage against non-resistant foes.
- Haze allows Greninja to have a favourable matchup against Flame Charge and Dragon Dance variants of Mega Charizard X.
- Taunt is useful pinning down stall and Leech Seed Pokemon like Mew and Jumpluff. You just beat Jumpluff by outspeeding it and using Toxic, I feel like Toxic is just better than Taunt, maybe put that in the first slot, and then Taunt slashed after it
- Toxic is useful against non-Rest variants of Mega Slowbro and Manaphy. Me and TDA just did some testing, and manaphy can legit just click Surf every turn and win, so its not solid enough.

Set Details
========

- 160 Def EVs are crucial so that Greninja can survive a Flame Charge from Mega Charizard X Only 252 Jolly, an adamant zard would have a chance to break while using Substitute.
- 160 Spe EVs with a Timid nature let Greninja outspeed Mega Metagross Me and TDA just did some testing, and you should make the ev's so that greninja subs down to 25% HP instead of 26% HP, so that you can activate the petaya berry and you tank a bullet punch from Metagross at that range, otherwise you can just lose., Mega Diancie and Jumpluff.
- The remaining EVs are put into SpA to let Greninja hit as hard as possible.
- Petaya, when used with Torrent, allows Greninja to continuously use Substitute until they activate, letting it fire a potent Hydro Cannon.

Usage Tips

========

- Focus on Pokemon slower than Greninja that don’t resist Hydro Cannon and stall Pokemon that are weak to Taunt like Mew and Jumpluff.
- When against Mega Charizard X, first use Substitute so you don’t get OHKOed by Outrage; if the opposing Pokemon uses Flame Charge, proceed to Haze them to get rid of the speed boost so you are always faster than it, use the same method as followed until you reach 25% health as Petaya and Torrent will have activated and you can OHKO them with Hydro Cannon.
- Avoid Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria.
- Make sure not to Haze away your Petaya boost as the power drop is significant without it.

Team Options
========

- This set is reliant on setting up with Substitute, so ideally having Pokemon that can deal with faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users like Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Porygon-Z make excellent partners. Therefore, Pokemon like Mega Metagross, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Heracross pair up well. In return, Greninja can deter Mega Charizard X and Y Y just solarbeams from being chosen against them.
- Mega Metagross is particular has excellent synergy with Greninja, as it deals with Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria.
- Pokemon that can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Gyarados, Rest Mega Slowbro, and Mega Blastoise complement Greninja well. Examples include Choice Band Kyurem-B, Mega Venusaur, and Serperior. As counter performance, Greninja deals with Fire-types like Victini and Kee Berry Volcarona.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

- Thanks to its ability Protean, Greninja has a diverse amount of sets at its disposal.
- Greninja can opt to run a Choice Band set with Low Kick for Kyurem-B and Gunk Shot for Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir. However, its other sets are more useful and cover the metagame better.
- A Modest Choice Scarf set can handle other Choice Scarf Pokemon like Garchomp, Genesect, Victini. Despite this, the power drop is enormous and is very niche apart from handling these Pokemon.
- Hidden Power Ground can defeat Magnezone but is useless apart from this.
- A Life Orb set can be run to have more leverage as it is no longer Choice-locked onto a move but loses power compared to the other sets.
- If using Life Orb, then Shadow Sneak can be run to have a chance of defeating Porygon-Z. Also worth noting that just slapping shadow sneak on a specs set can finesse pokemon like scarf Sawk, also I just thought of this, you can legit run shadow sneak on scarf PZ to beat them clicking hyper beam or uproar, but probs shouldn't mention that

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Greninja is vulnerable to powerful STAB moves and super effective moves from faster Pokemon such as Mega Lopunny, Garchomp, and Victini. Scarf variants

**Bulky Pokemon**: Despite Greninja’s unpredictability, there are some Pokemon that even both of its sets struggles against like specially defensive Mega Mawile, Hoopa-U, Chansey, and Registeel.

**Sturdy**: Sturdy users like Golem and Crustle are especially problematic for Greninja due to their ability to tank a hit and retaliate using their strong STAB moves.

Extremely well written, just make the tweaks and you have your first QC!
 
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Overview:
+Mention Torrent alongside Protean in your point so you show the reader that both are viable picks then you can detail both like you did.
+Mega Slowbro can't be considered as good check since its Psychic, I'd put Genesect here cause HP fire circumvents around it, maybe Gardevoir too due to Gunk shot. (Genesect point applies if gren is scarf ofc)
-Actually sub torrent is a 50/50 with mawile-mega sucker punch so that's something UNLESS YOU ADD DEF EVs TO WIN (Check my point below). Add that it keeps what Greninja beats in general bar a few Pokemon such as Water- resists Pokemon but Torrent generally runs Taunt / Toxic so it can defeat specially defensive Pokemon. Zard X is the most relevant example yes.
-Eh, Idk if Meloetta is the better option here. Just go w/ Hoopa-U instead. So any pokemon that can tank a hit and retaliate OHKO greninja imo.

Moves:
-Latias usually run reflect-type so Dark Pulse doesn't win.

Usage Tips:
- suspected Choice scarf victini*

FOR TORRENT:

Moves:
-Haze also helps vs Pokemon that boost their spdf. Haze+Toxic helps you wear down CM Latias.
-Taunt beats jumpluff anw. Toxic is for Reflect Type Mega Latias, Chansey for example.
-Add Jumpluff under Taunt.

Details:
Does your def Evs allow u to live a BP at 25% from mega metagross or Sucker Punch from Mawile

Options:
I'd also mention smthg for Grass-types specially mega venu.

OO:
Mention Rock Tomb w/ Band

Checks and cOUNTERS:
Well Garchomp runs band 80% of time kek. Mention Kyub instead.
Mention Spdf Venusaur. But ye they have to wary of diff coverage and sets.

Do this and talk to me on discord for a live recheck then I give u qc.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

Greninja’s great Water / Dark offensive typing, exceptional abilities in Protean and Torrent, and blistering speed make it a great pick in the metagameAC allowing it to overwhelm popular threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. This is bolstered by its large movepool, circumventing normally good checks like Mega Venusaur, Genesect, and Ferrothorn. A Substitute + Torrent set adds unto its unpredictability, empowering its offensive capabilities against Pokemon like specially defensive Mega Charizard X, Mega Charizard Y, and Mega Metagross. Moreover, the benefits of not being Choice-locked allow it to deter previous checks via Taunt and Toxic, the most notable mentions being Chansey and Reflect Type Mega Latias. However, Greninja’s lackluster bulk leaves much to be desired, easily being taken out from super AHeffective attacks and strong neutral attacks like Kyurem-B’s Outrage, Mega Gyarados’s Outrage, and Choice Specs Hoopa-U's Thunderbolt. While Greninja has impressive speed, it is still outsped offensive pokemon like Mega LopunnyAC and Choice Scarf users like Kyurem-B, Genesect, and Victini outspeed it.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

Greninja’s great offensive Water / Dark offensive typing, exceptional abilities in Protean and Torrent, and blistering speed Speed make it a great pick in the metagame,(AC) allowing it to overwhelm popular threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. This is bolstered by its large movepool, circumventing normally good checks like Mega Venusaur, Genesect, and Ferrothorn. A Substitute + Torrent set adds unto onto its unpredictability, empowering its offensive capabilities against Pokemon like specially defensive Mega Charizard X, Mega Charizard Y, and Mega Metagross. Moreover, the benefits of not being Choice-locked allow it to deter previous checks via Taunt and Toxic, the most notable mentions being Chansey and Reflect Type Mega Latias. However, Greninja’s lackluster bulk leaves much to be desired, easily being causing it to be taken out from super effective(RH) attacks and strong neutral attacks like Kyurem-B’s Outrage, Mega Gyarados’s Outrage, and Choice Specs Hoopa-U's Thunderbolt. While Greninja has impressive speed Speed, offensive Pokemon like Mega Lopunny,(RC) and Choice Scarf users like Kyurem-B, Genesect, and Victini outspeed it.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Cannon
move 2: Grass Knot / Extrasensory / Dark Pulse
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power [Fire] / Extrasensory / Hidden Power [Electric]
item: Choice Specs
ability: Protean
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Moves
========

Hydro Cannon is Greninja’s Water-type STAB of choice and can easily KO offensive Mega Charizard X, Choice Specs Genesect, and Diancie. Grass Knot can handle Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Extrasensory lets Greninja deal respectable damage against Mega Venusaur and Choice Band Sawk. Dark Pulse deals with Psychic- and Ghost-types like Mega Metagross, Mega Latias, and Aegislash. Ice Beam gives Greninja amazing coverage, nailing Dragon-types and Ground-types like Choice Band Garchomp,(RC) Mega Altaria, Dragonite, Choice Band Garchomp,(AC) and Landorus-T. Hidden Power Fire is Greninja’s best option against non-Choice Scarf Genesect, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Hidden Power Electric is effective when against Mega Gyarados,(AC) being able to OHKO its pre-mega it prior to Mega Evolving.

Set Details
========

Maximum Special Attack and Speed EVs allow Greninja to hit as strong and fast as possible. A Timid nature ensures Greninja can outspeed Pokemon like Mega Diancie, Terrakion, and Mega Latias. Protean gives Greninja STAB on any move it clicks on, giving it extra power against the foe.

Strategy & Support
========

Choice Specs Greninja is simple to use, as Hydro Cannon is powerful and hits most Pokemon that don’t resist its attacks it. This variant of Greninja has trouble dealing with Pokemon that can live Hydro Cannon like Kyurem-B, specially defensive Mega Charizard X, and Mega Gardevoir,(RC) ;(ASC) because of this,(AC) you should try to avoid these Pokemon like this. Use Hidden Power Fire and Grass Knot on targets that usually defeat Greninja like Ferrothorn and Mega Swampert, respectively,(AC) which usually defeat Greninja, and as a result,(RC) might be lured in. Due to it being frail its frailty, it should also avoid Choice Scarf Pokemon like Kyurem-B, Porygon-Z, suspected Choice Scarf Genesect, and Victini. Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross are great offensive partners that benefit from Greninja drawing in and handling bulky Water- and Fire-types such as Mega Gyarados, Mega Slowbro,(AC) and non-Endure Heatran,(RC) and Mega Slowbro. In return, they can handle Sturdy Pokemon like Crustle and Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny,(RC) and Sawk, as well as special walls like Chansey. A solid answer to specially defensive Mega Charizard X is appreciated, as Greninja doesn’t have sufficient firepower to handle them it. Air Balloon Heatran and Crustle are all capable of taking hits from Mega Charizard X and revenge killing it. In return, Greninja can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Choice Band Kyurem-B is a great offensive partner, as it helps it Greninja deal with unfavourable unfavorable matchups in such as against bulky Meloetta, Magnezone, and Hoopa-U. In return, Kyurem-B benefits from Greninja taking care of Steel-types like Air Balloon Heatran, Choice Specs Genesect, and Ferrothorn.

[SET]
name: Petaya
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hydro Cannon
move 3: Haze
move 4: Toxic / Taunt
item: Petaya Berry
ability: Torrent
nature: Timid
evs: 160 Def / 188 SpA / 160 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Substitute is the main flagship of this set, allowing Greninja to reliably defeat Mega Charizard X and Y by using Substitute it until in range of Torrent and Petaya is Berry are activated. Hydro Cannon is indispensable for this set, using its immense 150-Base Power on top of STAB, boosted by Torrent and Petaya Berry, to deal tremendous amounts of damage against non-resistant foes. Haze allows Greninja to have a favourable favorable matchup against Flame Charge and Dragon Dance variants of Mega Charizard X,(RC) and as well as Calm Mind Mega Latias when utilized with Toxic. Toxic is useful against non-Rest variants of Mega Slowbro and Mega Latias. Taunt is useful for pinning down stall Pokemon like Mew and Jumpluff.

Set Details
========

160 Def Defense EVs are crucial so that Greninja can survive a Flame Charge from Mega Charizard X while using Substitute. 160 Spe Speed EVs with a Timid nature let Greninja outspeed Mega Metagross, Mega Diancie and Jumpluff. The remaining EVs are put into SpA Special Attack to let Greninja hit as hard as possible. Petaya ,(RC) when used with Torrent,(RC) Berry allows Greninja to continuously use Substitute until they activate Torrent is activated, letting it fire off a potent Hydro Cannon.

Strategy & Support
========

Focus on Pokemon slower than Greninja that don’t resist Hydro Cannon and stall Pokemon that are weak to Taunt like Mew and Jumpluff. When against Mega Charizard X, first use Substitute so you don’t get OHKOed by Outrage; if the opposing Pokemon uses Flame Charge, proceed to Haze them to get rid of the speed Speed boost so you are always faster than it, use the same method as followed until you reach 25% health,(AC) as Petaya and Torrent will have activated and you can OHKO them it with Hydro Cannon. Avoid Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Make sure not to Haze away your Petaya Berry boost,(AC) as the power drop is significant without it. This set is reliant on setting up with Substitute, so ideally having Pokemon that can deal with faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users like Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Porygon-Z make excellent partners. Therefore, Pokemon like Mega Metagross, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Heracross pair up well. In return, Greninja can deter Mega Charizard X and Y from being chosen sent out against them. Mega Metagross,(RC) in particular,(RC) has excellent synergy with Greninja, as it deals with Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Pokemon that can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Gyarados, Rest Mega Slowbro, and Mega Blastoise complement Greninja well. Examples include Choice Band Kyurem-B, Mega Venusaur, and Serperior. As counter-performance In return, Greninja deals with Fire-types like Victini and Kee Berry Volcarona.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Thanks to its ability Protean, Greninja has a diverse amount of sets at its disposal. Greninja can opt to run a Choice Band set with Low Kick for Kyurem-B, Rock Tomb for Mega Charizard Y, and Gunk Shot for Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir. However, its other sets are more useful and cover the metagame better. A set with Modest nature and a Choice Scarf set can handle other Choice Scarf Pokemon like Garchomp, Genesect, Victini. Despite this, the power drop is enormous and is very niche apart from handling these Pokemon. Hidden Power Ground can defeat Magnezone but is useless apart from this. A Life Orb set can be run to have more leverage,(AC) as it is no longer Choice-locked onto a move ,(AC) but it loses power compared to the other sets. If using Life Orb, then Shadow Sneak can be run to have a chance of defeating Porygon-Z (I'm assuming Sneak would be used to avoid being hit by Hyper Beam, rather than to defeat Porygon-Z. If that's the case, then I suggest you rephrase this a bit) and Choice-itemed Sawk.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Faster Pokemon**: Greninja is vulnerable to powerful STAB moves and super effective moves from faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users such as Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Victini.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Despite Greninja’s unpredictability, there are some Pokemon that even both of its sets struggle against like specially defensive Mega Mawile, Mega Venusaur, Hoopa-U, Chansey, and Registeel, although it should be mentioned that even Mega Venusaur struggles against the possibility of Greninja running Extrasensory.

**Sturdy**: Sturdy users like Golem and Crustle are especially problematic for Greninja due to their ability to tank a hit and retaliate using their strong STAB moves.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[LittleRunnerXC, 289008], [DEG, 234355]
- Grammar checked by: [[Milak, 262594], [, ]]

 

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[OVERVIEW]
Greninja’s great offensive Water / Dark typing, exceptional abilities in Protean and Torrent, and blistering Speed make it a great pick in the metagame, allowing it to overwhelm popular threats such as Mega Slowbro, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. This is bolstered by its large movepool, circumventing normally good checks like Mega Venusaur, Genesect, and Ferrothorn. A Substitute + Torrent set adds onto its unpredictability, empowering its offensive capabilities against Pokemon like specially defensive Mega Charizard X, Mega Charizard Y, and Mega Metagross. Moreover, the benefits of not being Choice-locked allow it to deter previous checks via Taunt and Toxic, the most notable mentions being Chansey and Reflect Type Mega Latias. However, Greninja’s lackluster bulk leaves much to be desired, easily causing it to be taken out from super effective attacks and strong neutral attacks like Kyurem-B’s Outrage, Mega Gyarados’s Outrage, and Choice Specs Hoopa-U's Thunderbolt. While Greninja has impressive Speed, offensive Pokemon like Mega Lopunny and Choice Scarf users like Kyurem-B, Genesect, and Victini outspeed it.

[SET]
name: Choice Specs
move 1: Hydro Cannon
move 2: Grass Knot / Extrasensory / Dark Pulse
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power [Fire] / Extrasensory / Hidden Power [Electric]
item: Choice Specs
ability: Protean
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Moves
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Hydro Cannon is Greninja’s Water-type STAB move of choice and can easily KO offensive Mega Charizard X, Choice Specs Genesect, and Diancie. Grass Knot can handle Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Extrasensory lets Greninja deal respectable damage against Mega Venusaur and Choice Band Sawk. Dark Pulse deals with Psychic- and Ghost-types like Mega Metagross, Mega Latias, and Aegislash. Ice Beam gives Greninja amazing coverage, nailing Dragon-types and Ground-types like Mega Altaria, Dragonite, Choice Band Garchomp, and Landorus-T. Hidden Power Fire is Greninja’s best option against non-Choice Scarf Genesect, Ferrothorn, and Mega Scizor. Hidden Power Electric is effective against Mega Gyarados, being able to OHKO prior to Mega Evolving.

Set Details
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Maximum Special Attack and Speed EVs allow Greninja to hit as strong and fast as possible. A Timid nature ensures Greninja can outspeed Pokemon like Mega Diancie, Terrakion, and Mega Latias. Protean gives Greninja STAB on any move, giving it extra power against the foe.

Strategy & Support
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Choice Specs Greninja is simple to use, as Hydro Cannon is powerful and hits most Pokemon that don’t resist it. This variant of Greninja has trouble dealing with Pokemon that can live Hydro Cannon like Kyurem-B, specially defensive Mega Charizard X, and Mega Gardevoir; because of this, you should try to avoid these Pokemon. Use Hidden Power Fire and Grass Knot on targets that usually defeat Greninja like Ferrothorn and Mega Swampert, respectively, which might be lured in. Due to its frailty, it should also avoid Choice Scarf Pokemon like Kyurem-B, Porygon-Z, Genesect, and Victini. Mega Mawile and Mega Metagross are great offensive partners that benefit from Greninja drawing in and handling bulky Water- and Fire-types such as Mega Gyarados, Mega Slowbro, (spacing) and non-Endure Heatran. In return, they can handle Sturdy Pokemon like Crustle and Fighting-types such as Mega Lopunny and Sawk, as well as special walls like Chansey. A solid answer to specially defensive Mega Charizard X is appreciated, as Greninja doesn’t have sufficient firepower to handle it. Air Balloon Heatran and Crustle are all capable of taking hits from Mega Charizard X and revenge killing it. In return, Greninja can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Slowbro and Mega Swampert. Choice Band Kyurem-B is a great offensive partner, as it helps Greninja deal with unfavorable matchups such as against bulky Meloetta, Magnezone, and Hoopa-U. In return, Kyurem-B benefits from Greninja taking care of Steel-types like Air Balloon Heatran, Choice Specs Genesect, and Ferrothorn.

[SET]
name: Petaya
move 1: Substitute
move 2: Hydro Cannon
move 3: Haze
move 4: Toxic / Taunt
item: Petaya Berry
ability: Torrent
nature: Timid
evs: 160 Def / 188 SpA / 160 Spe
ivs: 30 HP

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Substitute is the flagship of this set, allowing Greninja to reliably defeat Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y by using it until Torrent and Petaya Berry are activated. Hydro Cannon is indispensable for this set, using its immense 150-Base (RH) Power on top of STAB, boosted by Torrent and Petaya Berry, to deal tremendous amounts of damage against non-resistant foes. Haze allows Greninja to have a favorable matchup against Flame Charge and Dragon Dance variants of Mega Charizard X as well as Calm Mind Mega Latias when utilized with Toxic. Toxic is useful against non-Rest variants of Mega Slowbro and Mega Latias. Taunt is useful for pinning down stall Pokemon like Mew and Jumpluff.

Set Details
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160 Defense EVs are crucial so that Greninja can survive a Flame Charge from Mega Charizard X while using Substitute. 160 Speed EVs with a Timid nature let Greninja outspeed Mega Metagross, Mega Diancie, (AC) and Jumpluff. The remaining EVs are put into Special Attack to let Greninja hit as hard as possible. Petaya Berry allows Greninja to continuously use Substitute until Torrent is activated, letting it fire off a potent Hydro Cannon.

Strategy & Support
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Focus on Pokemon slower than Greninja that don’t resist Hydro Cannon and stall Pokemon that are weak to Taunt like Mew and Jumpluff. When against Mega Charizard X, first use Substitute so you don’t get OHKOed by Outrage; if the opposing Pokemon uses Flame Charge, proceed to use Haze them to get rid of the Speed boost so you are always faster than it, and use the same method as followed until you reach 25% health, as Petaya Berry and Torrent will have activated and you can OHKO it with Hydro Cannon. Avoid Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Make sure not to Haze away your Petaya Berry boost, as the power drop is significant without it. This set is reliant on setting up with Substitute, so ideally having Pokemon that can deal with faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users like Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Porygon-Z make excellent partners. Therefore, Pokemon like Mega Metagross, Mega Gardevoir, and Mega Heracross pair up well. In return, Greninja can deter Mega Charizard X and Mega Charizard Y from being sent out against them. Mega Metagross in particular has excellent synergy with Greninja, as it deals with Pokemon that can bypass Substitute like Mega Gardevoir, Meloetta, and Mega Altaria. Pokemon that can handle bulky Water-types like Mega Gyarados, Rest Mega Slowbro, and Mega Blastoise complement Greninja well. Examples include Choice Band Kyurem-B, Mega Venusaur, and Serperior. In return, Greninja deals with Fire-types like Victini and Kee Berry Volcarona.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Thanks to its ability Protean, Greninja has a diverse amount of sets at its disposal. Greninja can opt to run a Choice Band set with Low Kick for Kyurem-B, Rock Tomb for Mega Charizard Y, and Gunk Shot for Fairy-types like Mega Gardevoir. However, its other sets are more useful and cover the metagame better. A set with Modest nature and a Choice Scarf can handle other Choice Scarf Pokemon like Garchomp, Genesect, Victini. Despite this, the power drop is enormous and is very niche apart from handling these Pokemon. Hidden Power Ground can defeat Magnezone but is useless apart from this. A Life Orb set can be run to have more leverage, (spacing) as it is no longer Choice-locked, but it loses power compared to the other sets. If using Life Orb, then Shadow Sneak can be run to avoid being hit by Hyper Beam or and Close Combat from Choice-itemed Choice item Porygon-Z and Sawk respectively.

Checks and Counters
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**Faster Pokemon**: Greninja is vulnerable to powerful STAB moves and super effective moves from faster Pokemon and Choice Scarf users such as Mega Lopunny, Kyurem-B, and Victini.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Despite Greninja’s unpredictability, there are some Pokemon that even both of its sets struggle against like specially defensive Mega Mawile, Mega Venusaur, Hoopa-U, Chansey, and Registeel, although it should be mentioned that even Mega Venusaur struggles against the possibility of Greninja running Extrasensory.

**Sturdy**: Sturdy users like Golem and Crustle are especially problematic for Greninja due to their ability to tank a hit and retaliate using their strong STAB moves.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Poison Adhesive PA, 430787]]
- Quality checked by: [[LittleRunnerXC, 289008], [DEG, 234355]
- Grammar checked by: [[Milak, 262594], [, ]]
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