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Project OU Next Best Thing: Cycle 87 - Not hosted anymore
- Thread starter BT89
- Start date
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Belt 4 Attacks by Amir
Taunt + 3 attacks by TailGlowVM
Expert Belt 4 Attacks
Taunt + 3 attacks
Me and agslash23 are now taking over this project and we are making it come back soon! Sorry for the wait
As for this cycle, the winner is:
4 attacks by Amir!
Congratulations! Your submission will be added into the Hall of Fame!
4 attacks: 6
taunt + 3 attacks: 2
Taunt + NP: 2
Sub + 3 attacks: 1
4 attacks: 1
Fling + Thief: 1
Taunt + Toxic: 1
Stay tuned, next cycle coming soon!
4 attacks by Amir!Congratulations! Your submission will be added into the Hall of Fame!
4 attacks: 6 taunt + 3 attacks: 2 Taunt + NP: 2 Sub + 3 attacks: 1 4 attacks: 1 Fling + Thief: 1 Taunt + Toxic: 1It's time! Since we have already featured every SS OU Pokémon at some time during this project's history, with some also being featured twice already, we figured that it was a good idea to restart from scratch and go through the OU tier once again, especially because for some Pokémon it's been months or even more than a year.
As the new hosts, me and agslash23 are happy to kick things off again with:
Cycle 65 - Dragapult
It's only fitting that the first Pokémon to ever be featured on this project is the one we're starting with and, since it's been literally 2 years since then and no repeats have happened, we think it's time to revisit one of the posterchildren of SS OU. Dragapult has set Speed standards in this metagame since its inception with its blazing 142 base Speed only beaten by Zeraora's and has been terrorizing offensive teams with its Choice Specs boosted STAB Shadow Ball, one of the single most respected moves in the metagame due to the limited number of good Ghost resists. It has also been a fixture on Dual Screens Hyper Offense with its dangerous Dragon Dance set, which abuses Dragapult's higher 120 base Attack and amazing signature move, Dragon Darts. Throughout the more recent history of SS OU, these are the two most defining Dragapult sets, with Choice Specs especially being called for a suspect test multiple times. Other miscellaneous sets have been used with success, but haven't reached nearly the same heights as these two.
Now it's your turn, shows us your heat Dragapult sets!
Banned sets
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The deadline is Thursday, 27h of January. Good luck!
As the new hosts, me and agslash23 are happy to kick things off again with:
Cycle 65 - Dragapult
It's only fitting that the first Pokémon to ever be featured on this project is the one we're starting with and, since it's been literally 2 years since then and no repeats have happened, we think it's time to revisit one of the posterchildren of SS OU. Dragapult has set Speed standards in this metagame since its inception with its blazing 142 base Speed only beaten by Zeraora's and has been terrorizing offensive teams with its Choice Specs boosted STAB Shadow Ball, one of the single most respected moves in the metagame due to the limited number of good Ghost resists. It has also been a fixture on Dual Screens Hyper Offense with its dangerous Dragon Dance set, which abuses Dragapult's higher 120 base Attack and amazing signature move, Dragon Darts. Throughout the more recent history of SS OU, these are the two most defining Dragapult sets, with Choice Specs especially being called for a suspect test multiple times. Other miscellaneous sets have been used with success, but haven't reached nearly the same heights as these two.
Now it's your turn, shows us your heat Dragapult sets!
Banned sets
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|The deadline is Thursday, 27h of January. Good luck!
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band double edge
Dragapult @ Choice Band
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Phantom Force
- Dragon Darts
- Double-Edge
- Sucker Punch / U-Turn
we saw this in some tour match i forgot, BUT…. it’s a really cool tech. it’s the typical band pult, and double edge is mainly to snipe tornt on the switch. you actually leave quite a sizeable dent for team mates to take easy abuse of.
Dragapult @ Choice Band
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Phantom Force
- Dragon Darts
- Double-Edge
- Sucker Punch / U-Turn
we saw this in some tour match i forgot, BUT…. it’s a really cool tech. it’s the typical band pult, and double edge is mainly to snipe tornt on the switch. you actually leave quite a sizeable dent for team mates to take easy abuse of.
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Reserving SubDisable WoW Hex
Dragapult @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Disable
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hex
This set utilizes Dragapult's good Speed stat to turn it into an efficient Substitute + Disable user. You can set a Substitute against a slower opponent and Disable the move it used on the next turn, allowing you to beat some Choice users. Will-O-Wisp is used to cripple physical attackers who come in after you've set a Substitute, but also increase the power of your Hex, turning it into a devastating 130 base power Ghost STAB. Leftovers allow you to take advantage of your Substitute turns but also of the turns when your opponent can't attack because you've just used Disable. Overall, this set brings less immediate power than a Choice Specs one but can surprise your opponent who while probably expect a Dragon Dance set when you set your first Substitute, meaning you can catch off-guard things like Corviknight or Melmetal with a Will-O-Wisp burn.
Dragapult @ Leftovers
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Disable
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hex
This set utilizes Dragapult's good Speed stat to turn it into an efficient Substitute + Disable user. You can set a Substitute against a slower opponent and Disable the move it used on the next turn, allowing you to beat some Choice users. Will-O-Wisp is used to cripple physical attackers who come in after you've set a Substitute, but also increase the power of your Hex, turning it into a devastating 130 base power Ghost STAB. Leftovers allow you to take advantage of your Substitute turns but also of the turns when your opponent can't attack because you've just used Disable. Overall, this set brings less immediate power than a Choice Specs one but can surprise your opponent who while probably expect a Dragon Dance set when you set your first Substitute, meaning you can catch off-guard things like Corviknight or Melmetal with a Will-O-Wisp burn.
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TailGlowVM
Now 100% more demonic
Dual Screens Dragapult
Dragapult @ Light Clay
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Curse
- U-turn
Dragapult's high speed and access to U-turn makes it a niche but theoretically usable dual screens setter. What differentiates it most from other options is access to Curse, which chips down the opposing team quickly and forces switches.
Dragapult @ Light Clay
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Curse
- U-turn
Dragapult's high speed and access to U-turn makes it a niche but theoretically usable dual screens setter. What differentiates it most from other options is access to Curse, which chips down the opposing team quickly and forces switches.
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Weakness Policy
Dragapult @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 8 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant/ Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Fire Blast
The bulk evs allow you to survive Zeraora's Knock Off after rocks and Koko's Dazzling Gleam from full. Fire Blast was chosen over flamethrower to guarantee the OHKO on 252 HP / 252 SpD Careful Nature Ferrothorn at +2. An Adamant nature was chosen becuase Dragapult outspeeds most relevant threats at +1 without a boosting nature. On teams with screens support, you could use a Lonely(+Atk, -Def) or Naughty(+Atk, -SpD) to improve +2 Fire Blast Damage rolls against Corviknight, as you no longer need you defenses to be as high to survive attacks. Weakness policy lets you get an unexpected boost from surviable supereffective hits, potentially allowing for an easier sweep. Attacks you can survive include Ferrothron's and Toxapex's Knock Off, Clefable's and Tapu Fini's Moonblast, Buzzwole's Ice Punch, and the attacks from the aforementioned electric types.
Dragapult @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 8 HP / 228 Atk / 20 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant/ Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Fire Blast
The bulk evs allow you to survive Zeraora's Knock Off after rocks and Koko's Dazzling Gleam from full. Fire Blast was chosen over flamethrower to guarantee the OHKO on 252 HP / 252 SpD Careful Nature Ferrothorn at +2. An Adamant nature was chosen becuase Dragapult outspeeds most relevant threats at +1 without a boosting nature. On teams with screens support, you could use a Lonely(+Atk, -Def) or Naughty(+Atk, -SpD) to improve +2 Fire Blast Damage rolls against Corviknight, as you no longer need you defenses to be as high to survive attacks. Weakness policy lets you get an unexpected boost from surviable supereffective hits, potentially allowing for an easier sweep. Attacks you can survive include Ferrothron's and Toxapex's Knock Off, Clefable's and Tapu Fini's Moonblast, Buzzwole's Ice Punch, and the attacks from the aforementioned electric types.
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Reserving pivot twave/hex
Dragapult@Heavy duty boots
Ability:Cursed body
252 SpA/4SpD/252 Spe
-Hex
-Thunder Wave
-U turn
-Fire blast/Hydro pump/Thunder/Draco meteor
Thunder wave on switch,u turn out, hit with hex later. I would say thunder is best filler move for fini who otherwise walls this set.Great to pair with something that hates AV torn or heatran, and also something that can abuse a u turn into spdef lando or tapu fini (rip kyurem).
Dragapult@Heavy duty boots
Ability:Cursed body
252 SpA/4SpD/252 Spe
-Hex
-Thunder Wave
-U turn
-Fire blast/Hydro pump/Thunder/Draco meteor
Thunder wave on switch,u turn out, hit with hex later. I would say thunder is best filler move for fini who otherwise walls this set.Great to pair with something that hates AV torn or heatran, and also something that can abuse a u turn into spdef lando or tapu fini (rip kyurem).
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HP Invested DD + Lum
Dragapult @ Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Dance
This Dragapult spread will hit 353 speed, just above the base 110s unboosted, and also above the common bulky Tornadus-T that's seen these days hitting 352 speed. Attack positive nature pult at the usual 252 Spe only ever ties with Jolly Weavile, which you never want to face unless you're super healthy and already at +1. Lum Berry makes setting up super easy vs Scald hax or things that try to stop you with Thunder Wave/Toxic (Blissey/Heatran/Landorus-T). Flamethrower is picked here over Fire Blast, since Fire Blast doesn't even OHKO full SpDef Ferrothorn or phys def Buzzwole, and in order for it to come close to doing so, you'd have to sacrifice way too much physical power. Lonely + Flamethrower will still 2ko both of the aforementioned mons while hitting every time; important in situations like vs Kartana. 120 HP keeps it at an odd number, and the HP invest makes it increasingly easy to set up on things like Volcarona who are usually very dangerous. It also works to compensate for the defense drop that Lonely has, making it more comfortable in tight situations from full health vs things like a chipped Urshifu-RS. This thing is capable of just massacring teams, being much more secure in its setup opportunities than previous versions of DD pult.
Demonstration replay: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1496994956-kuppvw1eiwoj9l4q8ice0q25vp5gbm5pw
Dragapult @ Lum Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 120 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Lonely Nature
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Dance
This Dragapult spread will hit 353 speed, just above the base 110s unboosted, and also above the common bulky Tornadus-T that's seen these days hitting 352 speed. Attack positive nature pult at the usual 252 Spe only ever ties with Jolly Weavile, which you never want to face unless you're super healthy and already at +1. Lum Berry makes setting up super easy vs Scald hax or things that try to stop you with Thunder Wave/Toxic (Blissey/Heatran/Landorus-T). Flamethrower is picked here over Fire Blast, since Fire Blast doesn't even OHKO full SpDef Ferrothorn or phys def Buzzwole, and in order for it to come close to doing so, you'd have to sacrifice way too much physical power. Lonely + Flamethrower will still 2ko both of the aforementioned mons while hitting every time; important in situations like vs Kartana. 120 HP keeps it at an odd number, and the HP invest makes it increasingly easy to set up on things like Volcarona who are usually very dangerous. It also works to compensate for the defense drop that Lonely has, making it more comfortable in tight situations from full health vs things like a chipped Urshifu-RS. This thing is capable of just massacring teams, being much more secure in its setup opportunities than previous versions of DD pult.
Demonstration replay: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1496994956-kuppvw1eiwoj9l4q8ice0q25vp5gbm5pw
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Level of Reality
Dragapult @ Chesto Berry
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 248 HP / 124 Def / 136 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Rest
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Darts
Yeah, about that... have you ever tried ChestoRest? ChestoRest takes advantage of Dragapult's solid defensive typing and makes it way tankier than normal.
Overview:
What's this? SUBREST DD?! This isn't Kyurem!
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No, it's not, but this isn't OU Best Thing. This is OU Next Best Thing.
Dragapult's EV Spread means it outspeeds Scarfed Base 110's after a DD boost, while the rest is invested in HP and Defense.
Notes:
- Pult needs support to remove opposing Steels and Fairies.
- You can also run Leftovers over Chesto Berry, but Rest will be harder to use.
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Grudge Dragapult
Dragapult @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Grudge
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Fire Blast
Here we have an offensive Dragapult with no set-up moves, but with Grudge as a last resort move to cripple an opposing attacker in order to support your teammates.
Grudge forces switches if the target is a Choiced attacker, but also neuters one fourth of the opposite moveset, and this is important because many pokemons run only one or two damaging moves.
Dragapult @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Grudge
- Dragon Darts
- Phantom Force
- Fire Blast
Here we have an offensive Dragapult with no set-up moves, but with Grudge as a last resort move to cripple an opposing attacker in order to support your teammates.
Grudge forces switches if the target is a Choiced attacker, but also neuters one fourth of the opposite moveset, and this is important because many pokemons run only one or two damaging moves.
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Haxapult,the demon we need.
Dragapult @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Confuse Ray
- Disable
- Phantom Force
- Infestation
Wanna be an annoying jerk to you opponent? This set is for you. Missing specs dracos against chomp. DW fam just confuse ray it and see it die. Annoying ass PEX switches into Shadow ball. DW fam I gotcha. Trap it confuse it disable recover and hide in the phantom world. Oh zeraora/scarf kart revenges you, eat them juicy berry( or if it is not idk?) and click confuse ray. Magic guard clef switches in, die bi-. Or be a chad and disable the moonblast if you can and set up with like idk garchomp.
Btw I am not annoying ass jerk. Forgive me.
Cycle 64 Submission phase is over! Time to vote!
Featured Pokémon
Submissions
Double Edge by BT89
SubDisable by ironwater
Dual Screens by TailGlowVM
Infestation by avg
Mixed Dragon Dance by JetpackPotatoes
Thunder Wave by Nish the Great
Bulky Dragon Dance by GuardArc
SubDD + Rest by hozuuu
RestTalk by Feelingmo
AoA Grudge by nameless90
"Haxapult" by FreshJuice
I gotta say lots of interesting sets in this round! Well done!
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Featured Pokémon
Submissions
Double Edge by BT89 SubDisable by ironwater Dual Screens by TailGlowVM Infestation by avg Mixed Dragon Dance by JetpackPotatoes Thunder Wave by Nish the Great Bulky Dragon Dance by GuardArc SubDD + Rest by hozuuu RestTalk by Feelingmo AoA Grudge by nameless90 "Haxapult" by FreshJuice I gotta say lots of interesting sets in this round! Well done!
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