Tournament OUPL VIII Commencement

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This will be the commencement thread for OUPL. OUPL will be 8 teams with 10 starting slots this year. This year's managers will be:

List of teams and managers are:
:clodsire: Celestic Clodsires - Exotic64 + Finchinator
:cramorant: Celestica Trail Cramorants - lax + SoulWind
:ceruledge: Cherry Pit Ceruledges - Isza + zioziotrip
:tinkaton: Hammertime Harlequins - leng loi + JUST ONE GALATINA
:kingambit: Idle Death Gambits - Fragments + devin
:dragapult: Prime Pults - Mimikyu Stardust + velvet
:raikou: RAGING LOORS - Baloor + shiloh
:blaziken: Blaziken Biryani - Piyu + vk

The tier lineup this year is as follows:
  • SV OU
  • SV OU
  • SV OU
  • SV OU
  • SS OU
  • SS OU
  • SM OU
  • SM OU
  • ORAS OU
  • Bo3 (SV OU / SS OU / SM OU)
Tournaments Rules and General Guidelines

General Team Tour Rules & Regulations

The General Manager of a team is essentially the boss of a team. The GM is the final word in all decisions (barring the hosts) regarding his team. The GM decides which players play on the team, who plays in what position, and even handles the team finances. Managers also make sure that the team keeps running on a day to day basis. If a team fails to complete their matches by the end of the allotted time, the onus is on the manager to inform the hosts as to what happened in order to make sure that proper activity calls are made.

Because of these responsibilities, The General Manager is probably the most important part of the team. As such, the position of GM is not one to be taken lightly.

General Managers are required to acquire one Assistant Manager. The Tournament Director team can veto the selection of an assistant manager, but will not require the General Manager to choose any particular user as their Assistant Manager. The assistant manager is essentially the second in command for the team. They have almost all of the functions and roles as the General Manager does, the GM just trumps him in head-to-head decisions.

Lastly, the General Manager has the following duties:

• They shall choose one Assistant Manager.
• They shall make the hosts aware of any player retentions by the time player signups close (48 hours prior to the start of the auction).
• They shall be present at the live auction, or appoint someone (preferably the Assistant Manager or a retained player if the AM is unavailable) to participate in the live auction in their stead.
• They shall send the hosts weekly rosters.
• They shall ensure to the best of his/her abilities that his/her battlers complete their matches on time.
• In the event that a match fails to be completed, they shall inform the hosts as to why the match failed to be completed, and what his/her battler did in order to finish the match.
• They shall communicate any grievances with the hosts.
All players must sign up if they wish to play in OUPL VIII, even those who will eventually be retained to their past teams. It is important to note that OUPL VIII is a 9 week event and that the activity level of a player is significant. Do not sign up to play for a team if you do not intend to see the tournament through to the end. This includes maintaining a competitive attitude if your team is already eliminated from playoff contention. You never know whether or not winning your end-season matches will make you a more valued player next season, so even if your team isn’t necessarily in the playoff picture anymore, there’s always value in playing your best. Failure to complete matches in a timely manner consistently may result in being barred from participating in future seasons.

The sign-up list will then be taken and sorted into appropriate lists for each of the tiers above. These lists will then be used by managers for the auction.
Total money for teams is 140,000 credits. There will be no holdover on extra credits from previous years - everyone starts with a blank slate and 140k.

In the weeks preceding the live auction, a time will be chosen by all of the General Managers to meet and perform a live auction in order to choose players. Managers will be expected to remain at the auction for the entire duration, which should take approximately 2-3 hours. If a General Manager cannot, for some reason, find any feasible time that he can attend a Live Auction, then the Assistant Manager will be called upon to fill in the spot. If no Manager can fill the spot for the Live Auction… then a new General Manager + Assistant Manager who can find time to make a live auction will be found to replace the old ones.

Once a time is set, all 10 managers + the hosts will enter the place where the auction will be held - likely the Showdown server. Spectators are allowed to join in to watch the fun unfold, but will not be able to speak. Discussion on the bidding at hand should be relegated to the OU room chatroom or any other appropriate chat outlet.

The hosts will first ask a team to nominate a player. The order by which teams will nominate players will go in a snaking pattern from the highest ranked team from last year to the lowest ranked team, then the lowest ranked team to the highest ranked team. The hosts will then tell the details of said player and bidding will commence, starting at 3000 credits, with the nominating team automatically placing the first bid. The auction will then be in real time. Managers will simply put in their bids in the chat, raising a minimum of 500 credits. If after 15 seconds there are no new bids, the player is sold to the highest bid in the channel. The hosts or utilized bot will provide a 5 second warning before bidding is closed on a player. The updated credit totals will then be posted and then the next manager in the rotation will be prompted to nominate a player.

Managers are advised that placed bids are final, and we will generally not permit an undo in the case of a mistake. Exceptions can be made in cases where a team nominates an incorrect player or if a typo in a bid amount would threaten the integrity of the team as a whole. Please make sure to double check your bids before sending them!

Managers are asked to please have a predetermined list of players you intend to nominate as well as potential bid caps, in order to make the process go as quickly and seamlessly as possible.

Managers: it is necessary for you to field a roster of 10 starters and a minimum of 4 substitutes, of which all must be paid at least 3000 credits. This creates a soft cap of 101,000 credits on any particular bid - that is, the maximum amount of money you can spend on any one player and still have enough money left over to pay at least 3000 credits a piece on 13 more players.

Remember that there are midseason free agent pick-ups. It may be beneficial to save some credits in order to pick up players midseason, but remember that no new players will be allowed to sign up for the midseason draft.
It is at this time that the tournament will commence. The league stages consist of a Round Robin tournament. Every team will face every other team once through 9 weeks of play. Each manager will submit to the hosts a roster no later than the deadline of the previous week. This roster will list the starting players and what metagames they will play.

When the week starts, teams' players will face off in their respective metagames / tiers. The SV OU 1 from Team A will face the SV OU 1 from team B, SV OU 2 will face SV OU 2, and so on. Whichever team wins the most battles will be declared the victor for the week. Rather than score based on how many individual battles a team wins, the primary thing that matters is who beat the most teams. As such, points are awarded based only on wins and losses versus teams as a whole, not individual players. Beating a team in a week’s matchups is worth two points, tying with a team is worth one point, and losing is worth none, simple as that. At the end of the round robin, the top four teams in the points proceed to the playoffs and will be seeded into a knock-out style bracket where they will face off until only one team remains.

There are a few regulatory things during the league stages that need to be outlined.

1. Substitutes – At any point in time during the week, a team may make a substitution for a currently slotted player. In order to do this a manager must post in the thread, tagging the hosts, the opposing managers and the opposing player stating which player is substituting out, and which player is substituting in. A player that has substituted out for a week cannot be substituted back in. In addition, all substitutions are subject to veto by the hosts if the substitution is suspected to be attempting to “game” the system. Substituting in a player who is unavailable to play at any of the times the opposing team has previously offered in order to force a double substitution is not permitted and the player who was substituted in will be required to be substituted out.

2. There will be no trades allowed at any point during OUPL.

3. Activity decisions – There are inevitably times where two players simply fail to complete a match; however, the nature of the tournament system sometimes makes it advantageous to purposely fail to play (such as when a team is up 6-5 in a week). Because of this, it is necessary to make activity decisions on matches. Hosts are required to make thorough investigations regarding each and every potential failed match during a week. If both parties are deemed to be equally apathetic or enthusiastic about getting the match done, but just have not had the opportunity to make it happen, the match will result in a no contest. However, if it is deemed that one party made significantly more effort than the other in attempting to get the match done, then a win will be awarded to that player. Things that will make it very likely that you will lose via activity include: failing to VM your opponent immediately upon the week’s start, scheduling a match and being documented as missing the match time, failing to provide any concrete times for which you can be reached, failing to respond to an opponent’s VM at all. Please be certain to review the guidelines for a favorable judgement in an activity decision. Note that this is a tournament that requires a very high level of activity and diligence, if you don’t think you can get your matches done, quite simply don’t sign up.

4. Rule Breaking – There is no excuse for breaking any of the predetermined rules. If you are caught breaking a rule, you will lose your match. There is no lenience with regards to this. Break a rule, you lose. Period.

5. Reversing Rulings - No ruling will be retroactively overturned once the week following the week that the ruling has been made has ended. This includes: activity rulings / rulings based on rule breaking / anything else under the sun. I'm not going back in time to reevaluate every single decision I've made throughout the tournament on Week 9 because you think you were gypped 1-2 wins along the way and now they're the difference between you and a playoff spot. Any appeals to a ruling must be made during the week that the ruling is made; beyond that, all rulings are final once the week ends.

6. Recreations – Under some circumstances, generally due to a true disconnection, the host team may determine that a game must be recreated. Ideally, this recreation will take place immediately, but if the completion of the game needs to be rescheduled then a host or tournament director will recreate the game with the same players at a later time. Neither player may be substituted out for the recreation, but otherwise standard rules for activity decisions will apply.

7. Changes to Tiers (NEW) - Standard practice is that any changes to a tier that happen after a week is posted, e.g. suspect test or council bans, new Pokemon releases, or standard tiering shifts, will not go into effect until the following week. Any exceptions to this will be announced by the host in the administrative thread.
Sellbacks
Up until week 4 managers will have the opportunity to report players that they believe are not meeting minimum activity requirements and/or sabotaging their team to the hosts. The hosts will review the team situation on the first 2 days of Week 5, and if it is found that the player in question is indeed guilty of one or both, the team will be allowed to sell them back. Reports made on team quitters after the end of Week 4 will not be evaluated until the conclusion of the tournament, with the exception of cases of cheating or team leaking/sabotage. Players who are banned from the Smogon Forums for a duration longer than the rest of the tournament and players who are banned from tournaments for actions unrelated to OUPL will also be eligible for a sellback.

If a player is sold back, their team obtains 3k of their value as credits to be used in the midseason auction. The only exception to this is players who become eligible for sellback prior to when Week 1 is posted.

Teams who sell back players before the start of Week 1 will be reimbursed with credits equal to 1.5k+half of that player's retention cost or value in the auction. These credits may be used prior to the start of Week 1 on undrafted players who signed up, and players selected will be eligible to play starting in Week 1. Any of these credits that remain unused will be converted into sellback credits for use in the midseason auction.
At the end of the league stages, there will be a knockout style playoffs involving the top 4 teams in the points. In the event of a tie in overall points standings, the following criteria is used for breaking ties.
  • Overall Points >
  • Battle Difference (total # battles won - total # battles lost) >
  • Best of 3 - each team picks a unique tier with the winner of the Head to Head matchup picking second, then SV OU is the 3rd game. In the event that the two teams tied in the Head to Head matchup, the team with better results against the higher seeds will pick second.
  • Note: a Best of 3 series shall only be used to determine whether or not a team will qualify for playoffs. To just determine seeding among the top 4 teams, the result of the Head to Head matchup during regular season shall be used as the third tiebreak, with a B03 series being offered as a final alternative if teams are tied in every other element.
After the top 4 have been determined, each team will be seeded. The #1 seed will play the #4 seed, and the #2 seed will play the #3 seed. Teams will battle in the same format as during the league stage. At the end of all 10 battles, the team with more wins will advance to finals.

In the case of a tie in playoffs, the advancing team will be decided by a best of three - each team picks a unique tier with the higher seed picking second, then SV OU is the 3rd game.
The tournament will progress in this format until there is only one team left standing, the champion of OUPL VIII.
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This post marks the formal start to OUPL VIII, which means:
  • Managers can hold official tryouts
  • The auction will hopefully be October 26th or October 27th
  • Good luck have fun
Here's to a fantastic season!
 
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felt that this was worth bringing up cuz of how soulwind and I got snubbed

I've been told by some people that he never confirmed despite him responding to my post and us discussing our sign-up in DMs. for this, it's very very easy to message either of us for confirmation

I've also been told that due to the nature of my jokes, SS has decided to reject our sign-up. for this, I'd say what? you might as well remove me from being a fuckin SCL manager if you feel that strongly about my personality or the nature of my jokes. make it make sense

you stripped two of the most accomplished OU players on the website from managing (him obviously way more than me with all that bling) .. OUPL. I've already had a bunch of players eager to play for us and have messaged me for tryouts days after we posted, lol. I usually wouldn't make a big deal about something like this, but this is a ridiculous and absurd snubbing

if you have an issue with me or "jokes", how about you talk to me about it? how about any form of communication at all, any infraction at all? instead of undermining my and soulwind's qualifications as a manager. really good on you smogon. you really do well at supporting people who've given a lot to this site and provided this site with endless entertainment and traffic. really great decision SS. just remove my SCL manager position while I'm at it if I can't even manage fucking OUPL

Edit: you ask any teammate I ever had about how they feel about me. Very ironic that my friends and my jokes about being oppressed led to this very thoughtful decision.

Edit2: nvm don’t ask ANY teammate I dug myself that hole. Maybe mates over the past couple years lol.
 
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My team lost to Hypnosis miss and Dark Pulse flinches last year - literally. Hence, the Clodsires are looking for lucky players to join our team this year. If you regularly hit your Focus Blasts or get Zapdos Statics, please consider shooting me a DM on discord arctozolt. Replays to support your case would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to haxxing our way to a win this year (negative shoutout to vk )
 
Agreed with lax.

You missed the opportunity for many players to benefit from the experience of 2 of the most valuable and experienced players this game ever had. It feels sad that over the years we lost the first aim of these league which is to make people playing at their best, getting better and conditioning their minds to the high competitive sphere.

Also I don't know the selection process but some people would like to get at least a chance so they have somewhere to start, with my player experience most of the managers main are getting lazy tours after tours, making it a bad experience for players.

Shouts to devwin for keep successing and helping rookies to grow up as players so they start having impressive insights into good results, keep it up.
 
My team lost to Hypnosis miss and Dark Pulse flinches last year - literally. Hence, the Clodsires are looking for lucky players to join our team this year. If you regularly hit your Focus Blasts or get Zapdos Statics, please consider shooting me a DM on discord arctozolt. Replays to support your case would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to haxxing our way to a win this year (negative shoutout to vk )
im literally the exact guy you are looking for (hax squad creator)
 
hello everyone. I hope you’re all doing well. If you want to tryout for idle death gambits then just pm me on discord and let me know the tier you want to tryout for. If you can also send a short introduction to me as well, that would be great too along with your smogon account. Looking forward to this, and hopefully it’s a good one.

My discord is:Tokyoprison
 
Introducing new players to the community and giving them a team tour experience is always a priority of mine when I manage anything. We will not be doing tryouts, however if you are NOT established in the OU community , shoot me a dm on discord @shalisza and let us know why we should get you.

For clarification, this means if you haven't participated in many official tournaments/ OU tournaments in the past. Even if I don't get back to you right away I read everything, best of luck everyone! :heart:
 
If you are interested in playing for the Harlequins please DM me (lengloi) or galatina (galatinaddicted) on discord. We are looking for grinders more than anything else and to create a great team environment.

Please include:
- Relevant records in OU tours
- Replays that demonstrate game planning and/or adaptability vs skilled opponents
- your Smogon account if different from discord
- an introduction if you feel like it

Let's all have a great tour! :sphearical:
 
Hi all, I feel responsible for this mess so I want to speak up.

When the managers were being vetted for a slot, the hosts asked me to send a message to SS to get their feedback on who should be allowed to manage and who shouldn’t be. I was not paying as much attention as I normally do as a result of extenuating IRL circumstances and mental health issues, and instead of waiting for a collective SS response I delivered the input of the first few SS members who responded. As Aberforth later confirmed this was not actually what SS as a whole felt, and as a result of this poor attention on my part, two wonderful tournament players who would make for a fantastic manager pair were held back. This was entirely my fault and I am deeply sorry for the mess this has caused; there is no excuse other than negligence.

Please do not go out of your way to harass our incredible staff (our hosts and SS collectively) who thanklessly spend hours of their day to facilitate these kinds of tournaments. They did nothing wrong. I and the rest of the tournament staff are doing everything we can to fix the damage, and I am hoping that this mistake can be rectified one way or another.

Thanks all, please be kind to one another.
 
Also to those reaching out to lydian and I for tryouts, please wait a bit until this situation is resolved. I proposed letting lax and SoulWind replace our team if it can’t be resolved without a team being replaced; until we know for sure, please abstain! I don’t want anybody to waste their efforts.

If we do stick around, we will have a server put together where you will be able to leave your tryout. Thanks.
 

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Hello everyone! if you are looking to play for Prime Pults in OUPL feel free to message either me or velvet on either smogon or discord (mimikyu_stardust, potatoogirl) with your accomplishments, gens you want to play, and also if you want to run some games for tryouts with either of us or not! We've gotten quite a lot already and we hope to draft the best team filled with new and experienced players alike and win the whole thing! if you have trouble building, thats fine as the team will have addequate support for every tier. Hope this is going to be a fun tour and much love to everyone participating!

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Hello everyone! if you are looking to play for Prime Pults in OUPL feel free to message either me or velvet on either smogon or discord (mimikyu_stardust, potatoogirl) with your accomplishments, gens you want to play, and also if you want to run some games for tryouts with either of us or not! We've gotten quite a lot already and we hope to draft the best team filled with new and experienced players alike and win the whole thing! if you have trouble building, thats fine as the team will have addequate support for every tier. Hope this is going to be a fun tour and much love to everyone participating!

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id like to request dropping mimi for lyd and ausma i think we made a grave error
 
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