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Hey everybody! As cliché as it may be, I wanted to commemorate my 1,000th post with an RMT, with all of the cliché shoutouts alongside it. As LC's been getting increasingly more offensive, I've been toying around with various cores and archetypes to combat the most recent metagame trends, as well as exploit a lot of the bulky offense teams that people tend to abuse. Hefty wallbreakers, such as Corphish and offensive Porygon, were finding their way onto a lot of my teams but I just wasn't able to find enough success to balance out the tedium of these standard-ish (come on, I'm Mambo) squads. I decided to showcase a team centered on special Carvanha, a set that most LC regulars would instantly associate with me, which actually fares quite well in the current metagame due to its sheer power and nifty surprise factor. However, instead of wasting any more of your time with dull explanations behind my reasons for posting this, I'll just move right along to the teambuilding process.

Also, blarajan helped to make this team so I have to give him some credit.

TEAMBUILDING PROCESS

I began with the core of Carvanha, Snivy, and Vullaby, as I wanted to use the former as my wincon / cleaner and the latter two as supporting wallbreakers, weakening or eliminating Grass-types and Fighting-types that could check Carvanha.


I didn’t want to slap Hidden Power Fire onto Carvanha nor Snivy to hit Ferroseed, and Vullaby wasn't helping much with my Magnemite issues. I also needed some means of dealing with Flying-types, namely Fletchling, and some scouring of the list of LC Pokemon led me to Nosepass.


I needed a solid Fighting-type check on top of Vullaby and I was also noticing a pretty blatant Shell Smash weakness should the opponent set up on Vullaby. Croagunk fit the bill nicely, further benefiting the team with its priority in Sucker Punch and Vacuum Wave.


I was struggling to pick a 6th Pokemon that would properly round off the team, serving as a soft check to a majority of common threats, until Corporal Levi's words echoed in my mind: "Use Porygon."


Previous iterations of the team had much different 4th / 5th / 6th slots, so let's take a moment to remember those lost in the building process.


DETAILED ANALYSIS

Carvanha @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 HP
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Protect
Carvanha is the original member of the squad and functions as the main cleaner, abusing its powerful coverage moves and Speed to efficiently eliminate weakened threats in the mid- / late-game. Most players assume Carvanha is the standard physical set, conserving their physically defensive Pokemon and anything that can eat an Aqua Jet until the fish hits the field. Special Carvanha is a very viable threat in the current metagame, regardless of how large a meme the community's made it, and it exploits the tendency outlined above to fulfill its role successfully. Hydro Pump is crazy strong and nets a 2HKO on anything that doesn't resist Water-type moves, landing OHKOs on various threats after their Eviolite has been removed. Dark Pulse hits Water-types and Ferroseed while providing Carvanha with a 100% accurate STAB move and a nice 30% chance to flinch. Ice Beam allows Carvanha to inflict some serious damage versus the majority of Grass-types in LC, namely Cottonee and Foongus. Protect is a staple on Carvanha in order to get the Speed boost from Speed Boost, and it can also be used as utility to check Scarf Mienfoo's HJK and burn through weather turns.

The EV spread is fairly straightforward, maximizing Carvanha's Special Attack and hitting enough Speed to outspeed common Scarfers within the metagame. 36 Def EVs give Carvanha a higher chance to survive Timburr's Mach Punch from full HP, but, apart from that, it's mainly just a filler. Running 0 HP IVs reduces Carvanha's Life Orb recoil from 2 HP to 1 HP.
236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 212 HP / 76 SpD Eviolite Spritzee: 13-17 (48.1 - 62.9%) -- 93.8% chance to 2HKO (13, 13, 13, 13, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 36 HP / 116 SpD Snubbull: 21-27 (91.3 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO (21, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 27)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 156 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Mienfoo: 13-17 (56.5 - 73.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (13, 13, 13, 13, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 156 HP / 196 SpD Mienfoo: 19-23 (82.6 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO (19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 21, 23)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 36 SpD Eviolite Mienfoo: 16-19 (76.1 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 19)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 36 SpD Mienfoo: 21-27 (100 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO (21, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 23, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 27

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Dark Pulse vs. 116 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Staryu: 12-16 (57.1 - 76.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 16)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Dark Pulse vs. 116 HP / 0 SpD Staryu: 17-21 (80.9 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO (17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 19, 21)

236+ SpA Life Orb Carvanha Ice Beam vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: 13-18 (59 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (13, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 18)



Snivy @ Eviolite
Ability: Contrary
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Glare
- Synthesis

Bulky Snivy is vital to the success of this team, utilizing its lethal Leaf Storm + Contrary combination to break opposing Grass-types in the early stages of a match. Hidden Power Flying, especially after a +2 Special Attack boost, allows Snivy to severely weaken Grass-types not named Ferroseed, as well as Croagunk; this paves the way for Carvanha to clean up in the late-game. Glare slows down common Snivy switch-ins, such as Ponyta and Gastly, which allows the grass snake to weaken (and in some cases defeat) these checks, further benefiting Carvanha. Synthesis gives Snivy the longevity required to successfully wallbreak throughout a match, as well as impishly abuse Contrary and stall out stat-dropping moves like Psychic and Moonblast to gain boosts.

The given EV distribution with a Timid nature maximizes Snivy's Special Attack and Speed, hitting 14 and 17 (what's currently determined to be THE Speed tier in LC), respectively. Eviolite enhances Snivy's bulk and, coupled with Synthesis, allows it to execute its role throughout the match.
240 SpA Snivy Leaf Storm vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Croagunk: 6-7 (26 - 30.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)

+2 240 SpA Snivy Hidden Power Flying vs. 132 HP / 116 SpD Eviolite Croagunk: 14-18 (60.8 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (14, 14, 14, 14, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 18)

+2 240 SpA Snivy Hidden Power Flying vs. 124 HP / 160 SpD Eviolite Foongus: 12-16 (48 - 64%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 16)

+2 240 SpA Snivy Hidden Power Flying vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Cottonee: 12-16 (54.5 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 16)



Vullaby @ Eviolite
Ability: Overcoat
Level: 5
EVs: 116 HP / 236 Atk / 156 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Knock Off
- Roost
- U-turn
I believe it was fatty who introduced me to the monstrosity that is Offensive Pivot Vullaby back in SPLC when we teamed together. This Pokemon finds its way onto about 80% of my teams, simply due to how strong it is in almost every matchup. Brave Bird coming off of Vullaby's respectable Attack stat nets an OHKO on every fighter in the metagame, as well as common Grass-types, which, as I've stated already, need to go in order for Carvanha to pull out the Lemon Pledge and clean up. Knock Off is fantastic for a plethora of reasons, allowing Vullaby to severely cripple a majority of LC's bulkiest Pokemon, namely Spritzee and Porygon, and inflicting some serious damage as well. U-turn is essential on Vullaby (at least, in my personal opinion), turning it into a fearsome slow pivot for Carvanha and Snivy. Roost increases Vullaby's longevity, granting Vullaby the opportunity to pivot in and out and threaten the opponent for the entirety of the match. Defog is definitely an option on the set too; however, you forfeit either Brave Bird's sheer power and coverage against Fighting-types or the ability to function as a pivot with U-turn, both of which I consider crucial on this Pokemon.
The EV spread and an Adamant nature maximize Vullaby's Attack stat, surprising most opponents with the sheer power in every Brave Bird / Knock Off / U-turn. 116 HP / 156 SpD allows Vullaby to remain astonishingly bulky, potentially avoiding the 2HKO from Gastly's Sludge Bomb, Sashbra's Dazzling Gleam, and Chinchou's Volt Switch, as well as avoiding the OHKO from +2 Omanyte's Ice Beam. This lets Vullaby slowly pivot into one of the various threats on the team that can take on the aforementioned Pokemon, preserving itself for later in the match (to pivot once more or as death fodder). Eviolite is necessary for obvious reasons; Vullaby's bulk is a huge factor into its success in the current metagame.
236+ Atk Vullaby Brave Bird vs. 156 HP / 196 Def Eviolite Mienfoo: 20-26 (86.9 - 113%) -- 75% chance to OHKO (20, 20, 20, 20, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 26)

236+ Atk Vullaby Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 196 Def Eviolite Mienfoo: 20-26 (95.2 - 123.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO (20, 20, 20, 20, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 26)

236+ Atk Vullaby Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 156 Def Eviolite Timburr: 20-26 (83.3 - 108.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO (20, 20, 20, 20, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 24, 26)

240 SpA Abra Dazzling Gleam vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 10-14 (40 - 56%) -- 11.3% chance to 2HKO (10, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 14)

200 SpA Life Orb Gastly Sludge Bomb vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 12-16 (48 - 64%) -- 96.5% chance to 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 16)

200 SpA Gastly Sludge Bomb vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 9-12 (36 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO (9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12)

152 SpA Chinchou Volt Switch vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Vullaby: 12-14 (48 - 56%) -- 12.1% chance to 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 14)



Nosepass @ Eviolite
Ability: Magnet Pull
Level: 5
EVs: 116 HP / 76 Def / 80 SpA / 196 SpD / 40 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Earth Power
- Power Gem / Volt Switch

Ok, ok, ok… Before anyone decides to immediately write off Nosepass as some shit Rock-type that's become Mambo's most recent garbage innovation, let me explain. This isn't just MY shit Rock-type: blarajan assisted me in the decision to use Nosepass. Its main function is to trap Magnemite and Ferroseed, eliminating two of the most common Carvanha / Snivy checks, as well as check Flying-types (*cough* Fletchling *cough*) and set Stealth Rock for the team. Hidden Power Fire is solely for 2HKOing Ferroseed, and Earth Power hits Magnemite, as well as other Steel-types that Nosepass may trap. The final slot is up for debate and I find myself consistently shifting between Power Gem and Volt Switch. Power Gem is a solid STAB move that allows Nosepass to hit various Pokemon for decent neutral damage, as well as threaten Flying-types like Archen and Fletchling without being forced to switch out. Volt Switch grants Nosepass the ability to pivot out of unfavorable matchups and gain momentum while still threatening Flying-types, only struggling should the opposing Flying-type use Roost.

Nosepass's EV spread with a Bold nature hits 21 / 23 / 18, avoiding the OHKO from Magnemite's Flash Cannon after Stealth Rock and Ferroseed's Bullet Seed, as well as the combination of Fletchling's U-turn and Diglett's Earthquake. 80 SpA EVs guarantee the 2HKO on standard Ferroseed, and running 40 Spe EVs lets Nosepass creep most slower, bulky Pokemon (which generally sit around 8 or 9 Speed). An Eviolite is absolutely necessary to survive strong Steel-type attacks and check Fletchling for the entirety of a match. Magnet Pull's inclusion is rather obvious.
236+ SpA Magnemite Flash Cannon vs. 116 HP / 196 SpD Eviolite Nosepass: 14-18 (66.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock (14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 18)

36 Atk Ferroseed Bullet Seed (3 hits) vs. 116 HP / 76+ Def Eviolite Nosepass: 6-18 (28.5 - 85.7%) -- approx. 12.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 6)

236 Atk Life Orb Diglett Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 76+ Def Eviolite Nosepass: 16-18 (76.1 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 16, 18)

236 Atk Diglett Earthquake vs. 116 HP / 76+ Def Eviolite Nosepass: 12-14 (57.1 - 66.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 14)

196+ Atk Fletchling Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 116 HP / 76+ Def Eviolite Nosepass: 3-3 (14.2 - 14.2%) -- guaranteed 7HKO (3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)

196+ Atk Fletchling U-turn vs. 116 HP / 76+ Def Eviolite Nosepass: 3-4 (14.2 - 19%) -- possible 6HKO (3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4)



Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
Level: 5
EVs: 52 HP / 188 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
- Vacuum Wave
Croagunk is the first of my "catch-all" Pokemon, checking the fearsome Fighting-, Water-, Rock-, and Fairy-types that lurk around every corner of LC. I chose a physical variant of Croagunk for more immediate damage with Drain Punch and Gunk Shot, as well as to eliminate Croagunk's ineffectiveness should the opponent have a Gothita. Drain Punch hits most Pokemon in the metagame neutrally and grants Croagunk some form of recovery outside of Dry Skin. Gunk Shot is incredibly powerful and serves as a secondary STAB attack (plus, the 30% poison chance is pretty dope). Sucker Punch hits Gothita as it attempts to trap Croagunk and can be used to pick off an unsuspecting Abra or Gastly. Vacuum Wave may seem out of place on a physically oriented Pokemon, but the Fighting-type priority allows Croagunk to KO Omanyte after it's Shell Smashed.*

The EV spread is standard for physical Croagunk, maximizing Croagunk's Attack stat while simultaneously preserving Croagunk's bulk. Dry Skin lets Croagunk soft-check bulky Water-types and absorb Scald, which in turn grants the duo of Croagunk and Trace Porygon the ability to handle Chinchou extremely well. Eviolite is fairly obvious for a bulky pivot.

*The way I see this scenario play out generally is as follows:
1) Opponent brings in Omanyte vs. Vullaby, the only Pokemon on my team that can't really can't touch Omanyte
2) Vullaby uses Knock Off on Omanyte's Shell Smash
3) Croagunk RK's Omanyte with Vacuum Wave

0- SpA Croagunk Vacuum Wave vs. -1 76 HP / 0 SpD Omanyte: 14-18 (66.6 - 85.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 14, 18)



Porygon @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 40 Def / 240 SpA / 40 Spe
Modest Nature
- Recover
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Porygon is just phenomenal in almost every regard. Every time I've built with Corporal Levi, he's found a way for me to fix a weakness by simply slapping a Porygon onto the squad, and I think he said it best with the following statement from his RMT: "Porygon's probably the most splashable Pokemon in LC after Mienfoo, maybe on par with Archen. You could argue that Porygon isn't good on offense because it loses momentum, but why are you worried about momentum when something is just going to get blown up every time Porygon takes advantage of its billion switch-in opportunities to get into play (except when it's recovering to wreak havoc again later, of course)?" Recover is necessary for preserving Porygon's longevity, allowing it to serve as my second "catch-all" Pokemon throughout the match. I'm a huge fan of running three coverage moves instead of Tri Attack so that Porygon can successfully remove the Pokemon that I'll sometimes find myself troubled by. Psychic and Ice Beam hit bulky Fighting- and Grass-types, respectively, which can otherwise check Carvanha and Snivy. Hidden Power Fighting nabs Steel-types, notably Pawniard and Magnemite, so they can't switch in for free and gain momentum.

The EV spread is pretty much ripped directly from the onsite analysis. However, as opposed to running Download alongside max SpA, I've opted for Trace, which I find infinitely better for the role I need Porygon to fulfill. It relieves the team of a somewhat problematic Diglett weakness, nearly counters Chinchou in tandem with Croagunk, abuses Cottonee's Prankster with Recover, abuses Carvanha's Speed Boost, abuses Abra's Magic Guard, etc. In every match, Trace puts in a solid amount of work and it's just so damn good. Eviolite is obvious once more; what else could you possibly run on such a Porygon set?
OVERVIEW

Due to Fighting-types being semi-problematic for the team, one could most definitely swap out Hidden Power Fire on Nosepass for Hidden Power Fighting and then Hidden Power Fighting on Porygon for Thunder Wave. This would also make it easier to trap Pawniard, as Nosepass wouldn't be forced to endure a possible Iron Head flinch. However, then the team lacks an immediate means of removing Ferroseed, requiring Croagunk and Vullaby to take unnecessary Iron Barbs damage and paralysis. It's honestly a matter of personal preference, and I favor the ability to eliminate Ferroseed quickly.

As for the lack of hazard removal, I haven't found it necessary to forfeit one of Vullaby's moveslots for Defog. Stealth Rock isn't that challenging to play around, and generally Ferroseed struggles to get up Spikes due to Nosepass's presence, Dwebble can be exploited fairly easily, and Pineco is some Sken-garbage. Sticky Web isn't too problematic for the team either, as neither Carvanha nor Snivy minds it (Snivy actually welcomes it) due to their abilities and Vullaby is immune to its effects.

IMPORTABLE
Carvanha @ Life Orb
Ability: Speed Boost
Level: 5
EVs: 36 Def / 236 SpA / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 HP
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Snivy @ Eviolite
Ability: Contrary
Level: 5
EVs: 240 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Glare
- Synthesis

Vullaby @ Eviolite
Ability: Overcoat
Level: 5
EVs: 116 HP / 236 Atk / 156 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
- Knock Off
- Roost
- U-turn

Nosepass @ Eviolite
Ability: Magnet Pull
Level: 5
EVs: 116 HP / 76 Def / 80 SpA / 196 SpD / 40 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Earth Power
- Power Gem / Volt Switch

Croagunk @ Eviolite
Ability: Dry Skin
Level: 5
EVs: 52 HP / 188 Atk / 116 Def / 116 SpD / 36 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
- Vacuum Wave

Porygon @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
Level: 5
EVs: 156 HP / 40 Def / 240 SpA / 40 Spe
Modest Nature
- Recover
- Psychic
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fighting]


CONCLUSION

Thanks for reading! Though it may not be the most perfect team in existence, the squad's a solid balance between competitive and enjoyable. I honestly never thought I'd make it this far on Smogon, going from some PS random to a consistent poster on the forums, but thank you to each and every person who's helped / interacted with me along the way; I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing without you. A special mention should go to the Little Cup community; LC has and always will be my home on this site and I'm extraordinarily excited for our shot in SPL. Here's to a 2K post in the near future!

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ANTEMORTEM: You're a living, breathing rainbow and you're FAB-U-LOUS. You've done a fantastic job with Smogon social media since your unofficial promotion to head honcho and I'm excited for the future of YouTube and your future on the site.

H&MBerkeley: You're easily my most successful tutee and as much as I'd like to claim all the glory for your achievements within LC, you've definitely pulled most of the weight yourself. Keep going hard in the paint and you'll achieve great things on this site, I'm certain of that.

Celestavian: You're the most consistent LC player at the moment, clearly spamming Timburr-related cores is the way to win. I'm confident you'll have a great SPL performance, show 'em why LC deserves its spot in the tournament.

TheFenderStory: You're the man, you know how great a friend you are to me and we're chilling next time you're in town, no getting stomach aches or sending locations or whatever bullshit.

Shrug: You've come so fucking far recently, cutting the shit has turned you into a posting powerhouse and you've definitely earned the creds you've gotten thus far. Keep up the good shit and thanks for helping me with stats homework.

kingmidas: The king whose touch turned to salt, you need to learn to simply Shrug (hehe) off anybody trying to get under your skin Ed-boy. You're a good player with a solid understanding of the metagame, you just need cool down a bit.

Fiend / OP / Coconut. / Melonz / Oma / sparktrain / Tahu / Sken / The Avalanches: I love you guys and everything you've done to help LC grow over the past year or so. Coconut, I'm still not convinced you're a girl but I hope your appendix feels better. Fiend, you'll run LC one day, count on it. OP, you've heard my song, you know how I feel about you. Stay salty boys.

Rowan: You were always a pleasure to talk to, especially considering you're one of the few people I've found who I can carry a conversation about music with. Though you're probably quite rust, you're still a solid player and I'm sure you'd be able to compete if you joined SPL this year.

That Crazy Russian: We really didn't become friends til shortly before LCPL (in fact, if I'm recalling correctly, I made you ragequit Pokemon for a while and I'd consider us enemies), but I'm so glad we resolved our differences and I can confidently call you one of my best friends on Smogon. I hope you can figure out that hair situation, bandana boy.

Vileman: I'm going to rip your shoutout from Kushalos's, simply because it applies so well here too. As much as you give me shit and vice versa, I consider you a solid friend, my fellow LC memer. You're really consistent in every match I've watched you play and I look forward to seeing you succeed in more tours in the future. If I ever need to take another math test, I'll be sure to call somebody else who can net me something higher than a 78%

f(x): You're chill af for a girl (ewww, cooties!) and you've somehow dealt with my "GIVE ART BADGE" demands for a long-ass time now. I'm sorry we didn't meet up last time I was in town, we'll have to chill sometime in the future.

Cased: You're just an absolute pleasure to hold a conversation with, holy shit. Your Snapchats are fire and regardless of what 75% of this site thinks, you're a stud. Never let the CasedVictory name die and we're chilling next time I'm in the area.

Kiyo: I guess I consider you a friend? You're a shit player and Shedinja is ass but I do love your role as Fat Amy (Fat Patricia) in Pitch Perfect so that's a plus.

Jac: You're a gay, black man who don't need no woman. We got really tight for a couple of months and I'm actually pretty annoyed with your inactivity, you need to come back and spam Voltorb on the ladder some more.

Stratos: I didn't really talk to you until we started working on this YouTube project but your commitment to furthering Doubles is truly admirable and it's honestly pretty bullshit that you got your TL ripped away from you in the manner that you did.

Rumor: LOL let's revive HailHoot

metaphysical: You're a chill dude, Spraytan

fatty: I can always count on you for a test in almost any tier, you're a super dope guy and I'm sure I'll be seeing you in SPL in the near future

dice: Real talk, thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to play on WEST BEST, I had a blast in my first major tour appearance and hopefully didn't let the team down too much in GSC. Also, you can come out of the closet whenever, I'm here for you bruh.

reyscarface: Same thing as above, I'm assuming you had a huge say in who was on the final roster for the team. You opened my eyes up to the strategy behind RBY and it's become one of my favorite tiers to play because of that. Hypno is such a babe, fuck all the other leads.

Lavos Spawn: Don't get yourself banned again, you're entertaining af. Thanks for trying to train me in GSC, you allowed me to realize how much I dislike the tier n_n

Luigi.: I talked to you quite a bit during the WCOP season and you're a very solid player, you'll definitely net a big tournament victory in the near future.

Omfuga: LOL you filthy rat scum, die. You're actually a dope dude to talk to when you're not on your period.

Tesung: You were an incredibly influential part of WEST and I respect your skill when it comes to pitting Japanese cartoon monsters against one another.

Yagura: Yo, I'm sorry for whatever beef we have between us. I want to be the bigger man and clear all this shit up because we're both representing LC and I don't want to have an enemy among friends. Forget all the shit that's gone down in the past, friends?

anto: Similar to above, sorry for being a raging asswipe in the Cosmopolitan room that one time, I don't want there to be any tension between us.

Queez: ^ Except in every exchange we had in PM

NU Circlejerk Squad: Can-Eh-Dian, Raseri, ryan, soulgazer, Montsegur, innovamania, Finchinator, Sam, iplaytennislol, boltsandbombers

US West: Invok3r, Jimmy Turtwig, GaryTheGengar, ben gay, Ary, shartruce

Random other people who I've talked to enough to warrant a shoutout: Krauersaut, King UU, CatcherAndTheRai, GOAO., Zodiax, Nineage, Xylen, Infamy, Heysup, Superpowerdude, tazz, Tricking, fran17, boo836, dsr95, Merritt, Pikasohn, RZL, ashiemore, Natural Talent, Twix, Dundies, Skankovich, Arikado, atomicllamas, Bouffalant, Exeggutor, Molk, Winry, Max Carvalho, Brazilian Army, prem, trash, v, blunder, Navy, Valentine, -Tsunami-, TDK, teal6

 
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[11/22/2015 11:08:44 PM] TCR: any reason you have hp fight on pory?
[11/22/2015 11:09:17 PM] TCR: hm I really like the concept of nosepass+carv
[11/22/2015 11:09:38 PM] TCR: I don't really like the lack of a fletch check
[11/22/2015 11:09:45 PM] TCR: outside the thing youre trapping steels with
[11/22/2015 11:09:55 PM] TCR: vullaby and pory are easily worn down
[11/22/2015 11:10:03 PM] TCR: but it should only be a problem against hyper offensive teams
[11/22/2015 11:10:25 PM] Mambo: nosepass is super fucking fat
[11/22/2015 11:10:30 PM] TCR: oh really
[11/22/2015 11:10:31 PM] Mambo: usually it can check mag + fletch
[11/22/2015 11:10:33 PM] TCR: I was just assuming it was
[11/22/2015 11:10:37 PM] TCR: as fat as numel is
[11/22/2015 11:10:43 PM] Mambo: it's like
[11/22/2015 11:10:44 PM] TCR: something you might want to try
[11/22/2015 11:10:49 PM] TCR: is scarf snivy
[11/22/2015 11:10:53 PM] Mambo: 21/23/18
[11/22/2015 11:10:53 PM] TCR: I used to run scarf snivy + mag check
[11/22/2015 11:10:58 PM] TCR: and it worked wonders
[11/22/2015 11:10:58 PM] Mambo: without the evio boosts factored in
[11/22/2015 11:11:07 PM] Mambo: I like fat snivy a lot
[11/22/2015 11:11:12 PM] Mambo: my only issue rn
[11/22/2015 11:11:19 PM] Mambo: is glaring ho voltturn weakness
[11/22/2015 11:11:24 PM] Mambo: namely scarffoo + fletch
[11/22/2015 11:11:54 PM] TCR: hm
[11/22/2015 11:12:05 PM] TCR: yeah I had that problem with the team I build with quote
[11/22/2015 11:13:12 PM] TCR: what are you checking with vullaby again?
[11/22/2015 11:13:35 PM] TCR: the team doesn't seem too abra weak at all
[11/22/2015 11:13:41 PM] TCR: to warrant 2 counters to it
[11/22/2015 11:13:55 PM] Mambo: slow pivot into phish + snivy
[11/22/2015 11:15:22 PM] TCR: hm
[11/22/2015 11:15:34 PM] TCR: you could always try something weird over that slot
[11/22/2015 11:15:43 PM] TCR: like itemless bulky archen
[11/22/2015 11:15:51 PM] TCR: instead of just going 196/236
[11/22/2015 11:16:01 PM] TCR: you could run like bulk there
[11/22/2015 11:16:05 PM] TCR: or even just go evio chen
[11/22/2015 11:16:14 PM] TCR: that can give you a fletch / mienfoo check
[11/22/2015 11:16:22 PM] TCR: while also slow u-turning
[11/22/2015 11:16:27 PM] TCR: rn I think vullaby is a weak point
[11/22/2015 11:16:30 PM] TCR: idk I find it really weak
[11/22/2015 11:16:37 PM] TCR: in my eyes
[11/22/2015 11:16:39 PM] TCR: its kinda like lileep
[11/22/2015 11:16:40 PM] Mambo: i mean
[11/22/2015 11:16:43 PM] Mambo: if you remove vull
[11/22/2015 11:16:48 PM] Mambo: i am p abra / gastly weak
[11/22/2015 11:16:53 PM] TCR: I wouldn't say that
[11/22/2015 11:16:55 PM] Mambo: which is the core of the centry rn
[11/22/2015 11:17:05 PM] Mambo: porygon is supposed to be a catch all to everything else
[11/22/2015 11:17:09 PM] TCR: you have pory, protect carv, fat snivy
[11/22/2015 11:17:13 PM] TCR: hm true
[11/22/2015 11:17:31 PM] Mambo: ok but as for your suggestion
[11/22/2015 11:17:35 PM] Mambo: you're saying replace vull
[11/22/2015 11:17:37 PM] Mambo: with fat archen
[11/22/2015 11:17:56 PM] TCR: that's what I would do
[11/22/2015 11:18:08 PM] TCR: you can always play around that core
[11/22/2015 11:18:11 PM] TCR: of gastly / abra
[11/22/2015 11:18:11 PM] Mambo: then i have two rocks
[11/22/2015 11:18:12 PM] Mambo: lol
[11/22/2015 11:18:14 PM] Mambo: i hate rocks
[11/22/2015 11:18:25 PM] TCR: but archen shares only steel
[11/22/2015 11:18:30 PM] TCR: as the common weakness lol
[11/22/2015 11:18:58 PM] TCR: its hard to rate teams like these on the spot lol
[11/22/2015 11:19:09 PM] TCR: this team is pretty solid as is
[11/22/2015 11:19:17 PM] TCR: but if you were to change it to take on voltturn better
[11/22/2015 11:19:25 PM] TCR: id say swapping vullaby would be the way to go
[11/22/2015 11:19:35 PM] TCR: with something like thunderbolt spritz, or a weird archen set
[11/22/2015 11:19:45 PM] TCR: spritz would definitely
[11/22/2015 11:19:49 PM] TCR: make you weaker to gastly tho
[11/22/2015 11:19:56 PM] Mambo: spritz also sucks at retaining momentum
[11/22/2015 11:19:59 PM] TCR: yeah
[11/22/2015 11:20:01 PM] Mambo: which nosepass / pory already kill
[11/22/2015 11:20:11 PM] Mambo: honestly debating switching hp ground to volt on nosepass
[11/22/2015 11:20:15 PM] Mambo: er
[11/22/2015 11:20:17 PM] Mambo: epower
[11/22/2015 11:20:19 PM] Mambo: to volt
[11/22/2015 11:20:22 PM] TCR: nah I would keep it
[11/22/2015 11:20:26 PM] TCR: earth power lets you bop
[11/22/2015 11:20:28 PM] TCR: magnemite
[11/22/2015 11:20:30 PM] Mambo: oh ya
[11/22/2015 11:20:32 PM] TCR: which in turn frees up snivy
[11/22/2015 11:20:35 PM] Mambo: that's the whole reason
[11/22/2015 11:20:36 PM] Mambo: i have it
[11/22/2015 11:20:40 PM] TCR: if you were to get rid of it
[11/22/2015 11:20:41 PM] TCR: I would go like
[11/22/2015 11:20:41 PM] Mambo: but i really miss volt switch lol
[11/22/2015 11:20:43 PM] TCR: hp fire snivy
[11/22/2015 11:20:44 PM] TCR: or something
[11/22/2015 11:20:53 PM] Mambo: i like trapping ferro
[11/22/2015 11:20:55 PM] Mambo: maybe i'll try
[11/22/2015 11:20:58 PM] Mambo: volt > pgem
[11/22/2015 11:21:04 PM] Mambo: cuz you can just volt on archen
[11/22/2015 11:21:09 PM] TCR: hm true
[11/22/2015 11:21:13 PM] TCR: you might not want to tho
[11/22/2015 11:21:18 PM] TCR: since nosepass completely walls it
[11/22/2015 11:21:30 PM] TCR: like archen could just roost
[11/22/2015 11:21:34 PM] TCR: or set up rocks while you volt
[11/22/2015 11:21:38 PM] TCR: and I don't think you even 2hko
[11/22/2015 11:21:40 PM] TCR: berry juice sets
[11/22/2015 11:21:43 PM] TCR: but I could be wrong
[11/22/2015 11:21:44 PM] Mambo: ok so say it sets rocks as i volt
[11/22/2015 11:21:47 PM] Mambo: i go vull
[11/22/2015 11:21:49 PM] Mambo: then go back to pass
[11/22/2015 11:21:54 PM] Mambo: if it roosts
[11/22/2015 11:21:55 PM] Mambo: i can just epower
[11/22/2015 11:21:57 PM] Mambo: yknow
[11/22/2015 11:22:16 PM] Mambo: i'm gonna try it out
[11/22/2015 11:22:19 PM] Mambo: i might just slash it
[11/22/2015 11:22:23 PM] Mambo: (this is for an rmt btw)
[11/22/2015 11:22:33 PM] TCR: ah it does
[11/22/2015 11:22:36 PM] TCR: 2hko archen
[11/22/2015 11:22:37 PM] TCR: ah nice
[11/22/2015 11:22:40 PM] Mambo: odds are i don't change vull just so that you can have something to rate
[11/22/2015 11:22:41 PM] TCR: I still want to
[11/22/2015 11:22:41 PM] Mambo: n_n
[11/22/2015 11:22:42 PM] TCR: do my own rmt
[11/22/2015 11:22:44 PM] TCR: lol
[11/22/2015 11:22:48 PM] TCR: but idk what team to drop D:
[11/22/2015 11:23:14 PM] TCR: nah you don't have to do that lol
[11/22/2015 11:23:15 PM] TCR: tbh
[11/22/2015 11:23:21 PM] TCR: I could probably just bullshit my way through this rmt
[11/22/2015 11:23:24 PM] TCR: given enough time
[11/22/2015 11:23:29 PM] Mambo: lol
[11/22/2015 11:23:34 PM] TCR: it looks p solid tho


tl;dr just replace vullaby with hoothoot and you'll be fine
 

Anthiese

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I'm not THAT inactive! But thanks love. You're a p cool guy urself nonetheless. Also why/how do you remember that far back smh but I do like that Nosepass though. Not 100% on Evio but that's just me. Calcs look solid af, might steal this set if you dont mind~
 
Great team Mambo, full of classic Mambo innovation that never fails to impress. There's not much to change about the team other than some stuff that comes down to personal preference more than anything else but I think are pretty beneficial.

-I'm not a fan of Sucker on gunk because it doesn't get that OHKO on Gothita and forces 50/50s with Abra and Gast should they be aware you have it. As my good friend OP can attest, running physical Croagunk without Knock Off really hurts its wallbreaking abilities, so I'd recommend Knock Off>Sucker Punch. Vulla and Pory already check Gastly and Abra, while Carv can outspeed them so they're not so threatening that Sucker is needed. You could also consider running a Brave Nature on Croagunk so that it doesn't reduce special attack. By running Brave as opposed to Adamant, you can KO Pawniard with Vacuum Wave after Vullaby's U-turn, and so Pawn doesn't pose as great a threat (You have lures and can kind of trap it with Nosepass but it's really nice to be rid of without having to take a Knock Off or STAB Iron Head). The speed's really nice to have for Timburr, Porygon, and Snubbull though so it's really up to you.

Other options to consider are using a fast Vullaby spread of 116 HP / 156 Atk / 76 SpD / 116 Spe with a Jolly Nature. This loses out on some power but allows you to outspeed Chinchou and U-turn out of it, which is kind of nice because your Porygon doesn't have Tri Attack and thus matches up worse against Chou, even with Trace. I'd still probably prefer the power and slower U-turn though. Aqua Jet>Protect on Carvanha could help you with your Fletchling matchup by letting it rkill Fletch after your team has worn it down some but Protectless Carv is harder to play. If you do use Jet you'll want to change the nature to Rash to make sure Attack isn't lowered. That's all I could find to change. Be sure to stick around in LC, man!
 
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Maybe you could try adding calcs for nosepass against pawniard
Nice RMT Mambo n~n congratz on ur 1000th post
Btw js, I'm not sure why porygon needs ice beam over psychic, pretty sure you can handle bulky grasses pretty easily with croagunk and vullaby
Idek tbh lol Mambo innovation lab is beyond my limits
 
Congrats on your 1000th post Mambo !

The team looks really cool but i'm not entirely conviced with Nosepass.
 

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