Big Personalities Mafia - Game Over, Epistemophiliacs+PokeguyNXB Win

[Da Letter El]

don't claim to billy

you probably shouldn't claim to walrein either but definitely don't claim to billy

 

[Ditto]

why the fuck are we claiming at all with no proof of anything?

1. Be advised that information centralization will almost inevitably result in a loss for the Ordinary Humans. I will not reveal why this is so, but I would strongly advise no one to take orders without question from anyone, regarding either a lynch vote or a night action ballot. Trust no one but yourself, even if I tell you via your own results or an update that another person is or was an Ordinary Human. Revealing any piece of information about yourself may be compromising. You have been warned.

 

[LightWolf]

Using the power of statistics, I'd say that unless anyone has any relevant info, we shouldn't lynch anyone.

Also, using the power of game theory, if I were to a host a mafia game, I doubt I would make arguably the best player in the game an NPC checker, lol.

DLE claimed NPC check????????

Also if the Franklin lynch is so amazing that it convinces multiple people to follow it with no explanation given from the advocates of the public reveal of n0 votes, so much for keeping the info flowing in the open?

 

[Jenzo]

I'm leading the Megalomaniacs and other mafia + neutrals should contact me

 

[Refa]

Hide

<Refa> Are you really the leader of the Megalomaniacs?
<Jenzo> yes
<Refa> How can I be sure that you're not town fakeclaiming?
<Refa> ...Is this working?
<Jenzo> why would i do that
<Jenzo> noone would do that
<Refa> It'd probably be an easy way to get scum to claim to you.
<Refa> It's something that I'd consider doing anyways.
<Jenzo> its dumb
<Jenzo> village never trust me
<Refa> So are you OK with any of the following aliases dying: George Washington, John Tyler, or Ulysses S. Grant?
<Jenzo> all fine
<Jenzo> what are you
<Refa> ?
<Jenzo> what is ur allegianc
<Jenzo> e
<Refa> Sorry, wasn't paying attention. Ordinary Human.

For whatever it's worth, I guess (assuming he was being honest). If you're wondering why I didn't ask the identities of his scumteam (which would have been far more helpful), it's because I didn't think he'd out them (I certainly wouldn't in the same position). It just really annoyed me that he'd so brazenly claim on thread and ask people to talk to him about it. I probably could've kept the charade going a while longer, but I didn't want to lie about my alliance + it'd probably be obvious that I was lying anyways when he came into contact with any of the other 2 factions.

 

[Jenzo]

If only you had asked I would have told you the identities of my scumteam: billymills and Walrein, true Megalomaniacs

 

[Ampharos]

I'm not a Megalomaniac, I'm an Aquanaut. Get it right, god.

In other news, I probably won't be around until maybe an hour before deadline tomorrow, and I'll be on from my phone, so communication might be limited. Hopefully we can find a solid lynch target by then.

I'd still like for Franklin Pierce to claim to me.

 

[LightWolf]

I'm 100% no one being randed like this should actually claim to anyone, because they have no reason to be actually afraid, no one will lynch them because people will pussy out with their aliases being revealed if they did.

 

[Altair]

unvote

 

[Ampharos]

I'm watching my pm box, can't get on irc. Message me via smogon if you have any good information that could get us an actual lynch.

 

[UncleSam]

For a variety of reasons I am extending the deadline for this day by 24 hours to 2 PM EST on Wednesday, December 24th.

 

[Ampharos]

TY based Sam.

 

[Da Letter El]

Hey

I believe that for tonight, we should split up into groups of 5 (and one of 6 I guess) to have us all do the same action together. From which actions pass and don't pass we can get a bit of an idea of which groups are more trustworthy than others.

Does anyone have a gripe with this plan?

 

[zorbees]

whatever group im in loses lol

 

[LightWolf]

DLE's plan has been oked by logic itself and all must follow it, anyone who goes against it can sod off!

 

[sunny004]

Dibs on group with DLE!

This sounds like a good plan btw,

 

[Lrr]

no lynch

Only issue I see with DLE's plan is mafia maybe having roles to manipulate votes.

 

[LightWolf]

if mafia can manipulate votes that should be still somewhat evident and mafia would still be restricted to knowing votes from groups they are actually part of, also no calling dibs, the way groups are formed shall be malicious amount of fun!

 

[Da Letter El]

vote franklin pierce

no lynch is for scrubs in tubs

 

[Serious Bananas]

N0

Controlling -VOTE- Actions:
-VOTE HOOK-: Abraham Lincoln
-VOTE THIEF-: Andrew Jackson
-VOTE PRIO UP/DOWN-: Prio up Andrew Johnson
-VOTE DISCOUNTER-: Benjamin Harrison
-VOTE CRIER-: Bill Clinton
-VOTE REDIRECTOR-: Calvin Coolidge to Calvin Coolidge
-VOTE CONTROL BACKUP-: Idle
-VOTE CONTROL VIGILANTE-: Idle

Inquisitive -VOTE- Actions:
-VOTE INSPECT-: Abraham Lincoln
-VOTE ROLE NAME CHECK-: Zachary Taylor
-VOTE WIN CONDITION CHECK-: Andrew Jackson
-VOTE NPC CHECK-: Woodrow Wilson
-VOTE TRACKER/WATCHER-: Tracking Andrew Johnson
-VOTE ITEM CHECK-: William McKinley
-VOTE INQUISITIVE BACKUP-: Idle
-VOTE INQUISITIVE VIGILANTE-: Idle

Protective -VOTE- Actions:
-VOTE BODYGUARD-: Zachary Taylor
-VOTE SAFEGUARD-: Woodrow Wilson
-VOTE DECOY-: William McKinley
-VOTE MARTYR-: William Howard Taft
-VOTE ITEM PROTECT-: William Henry Harrison
-VOTE VOTE PROTECT-: Warren G Harding
-VOTE PROTECTIVE BACKUP-: Idle
-VOTE PROTECTIVE REVIVER-: Idle

For DLE's plan: how do vote ties get resolved?

 

[LightWolf]

as the rules say, ties are decided by the vote of the owner of said role, not that confusing

 

[Refa]

I'm cool with that. Any idea of how we decide groups?

 

[UncleSam]

If the owner of said role does not have a vote for either of the tied parties I am employing a number of tiebreakers the last of which is simply using a random number generator

 

[LightWolf]

As I said we have a very fun system in place for deciding groups, do not worry your pretty little heads over it MWAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Millky95]

Wouldn't it make more sense to just pick the first 5, then next 5 and so on?