Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 - Mark 2 ** Spoilers **

[Missingno. Master]

Drill Run was pretty much only given to Pokemon with drill-like horns. For example:

Forretress only gets Drill Run because Pineco does--generally, tutor move compatibility extends across entire families in BW2.

Well, that makes a little more sense, in the same vein as Dusknoir getting Mega Kick because Dusclops got the move from the Generation III tutor. But still, they give it to Fearow, but not Dodrio? And they give it to Beedrill, but not Escavalier?

EDIT: Serebii's revealed by how much the Shiny Charm increases the odds of finding Shinies.

The Shiny Charm cuts chances of normal shinies to 33% making the chance 1 in 2370.6recurring standard.
If you're trying to Masuda Method it, then the chance has been reduced, but as dramatically. It has gone from 1 in 1365.3recurring to 1 in 1024.

 

[Kaphotics]

Serebii's wording can be misleading...

Normally:
1/8192 without charm
3/8192 with charm

Masuda
6/8192 without charm
8/8192 with charm

also,

My friend Mat has determined the increase due to the Shiny Charm

Mat = Bond697

 

[keleyeemoh]

Dammit, my copy of Black 2 came in the mail today, but I was asleep and they needed a signature.

 

[WingedKnight]

And why Braviary and Mandibuzz? That just seems so random.

Pretty sure this only applies to the interactable, Hidden Ability, lvl. 25 Braviary and Mandibuzz found on certain days at Route 4. (in their respective versions, of course). Still a bit odd, but not surprising given their track record with "unique" Pokemon.

 

[Missingno. Master]

Pretty sure this only applies to the interactable, Hidden Ability, lvl. 25 Braviary and Mandibuzz found on certain days at Route 4.

Yeah, I got that, but it still seems random, especially when you consider there was never such a restriction on the Zen Mode Darmanitan and the Friday Musharna in B/W 1.

 

[Executive Proton]

Anyone with the games (or the "zekrom") know if the Ex TR grunt is still in Icirrus City? I really want to know xD.

 

[Tux]

@Kaphotics : Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion CAN be shiny. I've tested directly by setting breakpoints in the shiny prevention routine (if a Pokémon cannot be shiny, the games 'breaks')

 

[Purimpopoie]

So like the first thing I'm going to do is to fix that Memory Link right away. Cathing these Pokémon sounds like a lot of fun. (2 days left)

Other stuff that happens with Memory Link includes special events with the Striaton trio, Lenora, and other characters, as well as your old accessories for the Pokémon Musical carries over.

I don't know if there anything else though.

Serebii posted about this, but it leaves me curious because what he said was so vague. What is the special event with Cilan, Cress, and Chili? Do Cheren and Bianca get to do anything special, since it would have read your Starter and thus know their BW Teams (which are programmed in)? Who is that visitor to the Plasma House?

So I'd like to know the answers to these things.

 

[R_N]

Serebii posted about this, but it leaves me curious because what he said was so vague. What is the special event with Cilan, Cress, and Chili? Do Cheren and Bianca get to do anything special, since it would have read your Starter and thus know their BW Teams (which are programmed in)? Who is that visitor to the Plasma House?

So I'd like to know the answers to these things.

I think it's just dialog
Memory Link gives you a Bianca (and presumably Cheren) battle
The visitor is

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N's Zoroark, I think

 

[Kaphotics]

@Kaphotics : Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion CAN be shiny. I've tested directly by setting breakpoints in the shiny prevention routine (if a Pokémon be shiny, the games 'breaks')

thanks

looks like we have to test each one individually then :(

 

[Tux]

Zekrom, Reshiram and the Entralink forest's Pokémon cannot be shiny.

Kyurem, Cobalion, Virizion, and Terrakion; Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf; Lati@s can be shiny.

 

[Missingno. Master]

So, wouldn't it be possible for someone with, ahem, the proper tools, to possibly look into the game code and extract a full list of all possible Hidden Hollow Pokémon?

Serebii's listed Giant Chasm as one of the locations with a Hidden Hollow. This gives me hope for a certain pink gelatinous being, known to reside in that general area, to possibly appear in said Hidden Hollow. Savvy?

 

[R_N]

So, wouldn't it be possible for someone with, ahem, the proper tools, to possibly look into the game code and extract a full list of all possible Hidden Hollow Pokémon?

Serebii's listed Giant Chasm as one of the locations with a Hidden Hollow. This gives me hope for a certain pink gelatinous being, known to reside in that general area, to possibly appear in said Hidden Hollow. Savvy?

I guess, but why would you want Healer Chansey

 

[Missingno. Master]

I guess, but why would you want Healer Chansey

Funny. Funny. Thus I reiterate, "known to reside in that general area". Unless you count White Forest's Happiny, you got no case on that one.

 

[Kaphotics]

So, wouldn't it be possible for someone with, ahem, the proper tools, to possibly look into the game code and extract a full list of all possible Hidden Hollow Pokémon?

Serebii's listed Giant Chasm as one of the locations with a Hidden Hollow. This gives me hope for a certain pink gelatinous being, known to reside in that general area, to possibly appear in said Hidden Hollow. Savvy?

Talking about a Shiny Vaporeon? herp

 

[JockeMS]

So, wouldn't it be possible for someone with, ahem, the proper tools, to possibly look into the game code and extract a full list of all possible Hidden Hollow Pokémon?

Serebii's listed Giant Chasm as one of the locations with a Hidden Hollow. This gives me hope for a certain pink gelatinous being, known to reside in that general area, to possibly appear in said Hidden Hollow. Savvy?

Yeah, Ditto would be awesome. I wonder, has it been confirmed if a Imposter Ditto is enough to produce off-springs with DW abilities if the other Pokémon is male?

Dammit, my copy of Black 2 came in the mail today, but I was asleep and they needed a signature.

Ouch, haha, unlucky for you. This is why I'm telling my little brother to sign for my game if I'm at work at the time it arrives. They don't know he is not me.

 

[mattj]

SHIPPED!!!

I can't seem to find the RNG Research thread. Will we even need to test anything?

 

[Missingno. Master]

Yeah, Ditto would be awesome. I wonder, has it been confirmed if Ditto is enough to produce off-springs with DW abilities if the other Pokémon is male?

I think it has been confirmed that not even a Ditto with its Hidden Ability will allow for breeding for Hidden Abilities. Though, it was confirmed in B/W, not B2/W2...

Irregardless, that's not even why I want Imposter Ditto (though I won't deny that if that's how it turns out, I'd be a very happy man). I just want a Ditto that's friggin' awesome in battle.

 

[Lucario_Guy]

Irregardless...

*Regardless

lol@R_N and Kaphotics with their trolling XD


I really want Imposter Ditto. DAT BLOB

 

[Kaphotics]

SHIPPED!!!

I can't seem to find the RNG Research thread. Will we even need to test anything?

no

 

[Missingno. Master]

*Regardless

I ain't not no big grammar-type person guy.

 

[The Knights of Wario Land]

Wait, am I late on this, or has the game ALREADY been fan-translated to English?

 

[Joeyboy]

Hey guys want to see the Challenge Mode Teams for the gym leaders & e4 sure you do

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Cheren
Patrat:Lv11 - Work Up,Bite,Tackle
Pidove:Lv11 - Work Up,Quick Attack,Leer
Lillipup:Lv13 (Oran Berry) - Work Up,Bite,Tackle

Homika/Roxie
Koffing:Lv16(Oran Berry) - Venoshock,Assurance,Tackle,Smog
Grimer:Lv16 - Venoshock,Mud Slap,Disable,Poison Gas
Whirlipede:Lv18(Sitrus Berry) - Venoshock,Poison Sting,Protect,Rollout

Burgh
Dwebble:Lv22（Sitrus Berry) - Struggle Bug,Rock Blast,Faint Attack,Rock Polish
Shelmet:Lv22 - Struggle Bug,Mega Drain,Acid,Curse
Karrablast:Lv22 - Struggle Bug,Headbutt,Aerial Ace,Endure
Leavanny:Lv24（Sitrus Berry) - Struggle Bug,Razor Leaf,Aerial Ace,Grass Whistle

Elesa
Emolga:Lv28(Sitrus Berry) - Volt Switch,Quick Attack,Pursuit,Aerial Ace
Flaaffy:Lv28 - Volt Switch,Take Down,Thunder Wave,Confuse Ray
Joltik:Lv28 - Volt Switch,X-Scissor,Thunder Wave,Energy Ball
Zebstryka:Lv30(Sitrus Berry) - Volt Switch,Flame Charge,Stomp,Pursuit

Clay
Krokorok:Lv31(Sitrus Berry) - Bulldoze,Crunch,Sandstorm,Torment
Sandslash:Lv31 - Bulldoze,Crush Claw,Rock Slide,Hone Claws
Onix:Lv31 - Bulldoze,Rock Slide,Explosion,Rock Polish
Excadrill:Lv33(Sitrus Berry) - Bulldoze,Metal Claw,Slash,Rock Slide

Skyla
Swoobat:Lv37 - Acrobatics,Psychic,Energy Ball,Attract
Skarmory:Lv37(Sitrus Berry) - Aerial Ace,Steel Wing,X-Scissor,Agility
Sigilyph:Lv37 - Air Cutter,Psychic,Flash Cannon,Hypnosis
Swanna:Lv39(Sitrus Berry) - Air Slash,Surf,Roost,FeatherDance

Drayden
Druddigon:Lv46(Sitrus Berry) - Dragon Tail,Revenge,Rock Slide,Crunch
Flygon:Lv46 - Dragon Tail,Crunch,Earth Power,Rock Slide
Altaria:Lv46 - Dragon Pulse,Cotton Guard,Sing,Fire Blast
Haxorus:Lv48(Sitrus Berry) - Dragon Tail,Shadow Claw,X-Scissor,Dragon Dance

Shizui
Wailord:Lv49 - Scald,Rain Dance,Ice Beam,Earthquake
Carracosta:Lv49(Sitrus Berry) - Scald,Rock Slide,Crunch,Shell Smash
Mantine:Lv49 - Scald,Air Slash,Ice Beam,Confuse Ray
Jellicent:Lv51(Sitrus Berry) - Scald,Shadow Ball,Energy Ball,Recover

Shauntal
Cofagrigus:Lv56(Leftovers)- Will-O-Wisp,Grass Knot,Psychic,Shadow Ball
Drifblim:Lv56(Flying Gem)- Psychic,Thunderbolt,Acrobatics,Shadow Ball
Golurk:Lv56(Expert Belt)- Heavy Slam,Earthquake,Brick Break,Shadow Punch
Banette:Lv56(Muscle Band)- Shadow Claw,Will-O-Wisp,Psychic,Sucker Punch
Chandelure:Lv58(Choice Scarf)- Energy Ball,Fire Blast,Psychic,Shadow Ball

Grimsley
Liepard:Lv56(Normal Gem)- Night Slash,Fake Out,Aerial Ace,Attract
Scrafty:Lv56(Leftovers)- Crunch,Brick Break,Poison Jab,Rock Tomb
Krookodile:Lv56(Expert Belt)- Crunch,Dragon Claw,Earthquake,Rock Tomb
Absol:Lv56(Muscle Band- Night Slash,Psycho Cut,X-Scissor,Swords Dance
Bisharp:Lv58(Quick Claw)- Night Slash,X-Scissor,Metal Claw,Aerial Ace

Marshal
Throh:Lv56(Leftovers)- Storm Throw,Bulldoze,Rock Tomb,Payback
Sawk:Lv56(Muscle Band- Brick Break,Retaliate,Rock Slide,Payback
Mienshao:Lv56(Expert Belt)- Hi Jump Kick,U-Turn,Bounce,Retaliate
Lucario:Lv56(Wise Glasses)- Aura Sphere,Shadow Ball,Psychic,Calm Mind
Conkeldurr:Lv58(Flame Orb)- Hammer Arm,Bulk Up,Stone Edge,Earthquake

Caitlin
Musharna:Lv56(Zoom Lens)- Charge Beam,Dream Eater,Hypnosis,Reflect
Reuniclus:Lv56(Leftovers)- Psychic,Energy Ball,Focus Blast,Recover
Sigilyph:Lv56(Expert Belt)- Psychic,Shadow Ball,Ice Beam,Air Slash
Gothitelle:Lv56(Wise Glasses)- Psychic,Shadow Ball,Thunderbolt,Calm Mind
Metagross:Lv58(Life Orb)- Zen Headbutt,Bullet Punch,Hammer Arm,Shadow Ball

Iris
Hydreigon:Lv57(Wise Glasses)- Fire Blast,Focus Blast,Dragon Pulse,Surf
Druddigon:Lv57(Life Orb)- Fire Punch,Thunder Punch,Outrage,Focus Blast
Archeops:Lv57(Flying Gem)- Acrobatics,Stone Edge,Dragon Claw,Endeavor
Aggron:Lv57(Muscle Band) - Earthquake,Double-Edge,Zen Headbutt,Automize
Lapras:Lv57(Wide Lens)- Hydro Pump,Blizzard,Thunder,Sing
Haxorus:Lv59(Focus Sash)- Earthquake,X-Scissor,Outrage,Dragon Dance

goodness me

edit: OH right the source http://pokebook.jp/data/bw2/trainers.html
Also of note: Cheren & Bianca's post-game BW1 teams & N having 4 full teams all about weather.

Let's talk about this! Both Cheren and Bianca's post-game BW1 teams have been found so that means N's teams must be in there too. Also what exactly are N's four weather teams, I can't make heads or tails of the link?

 

[R_N]

Let's talk about this! Both Cheren and Bianca's post-game BW1 teams have been found so that means N's teams must be in there too. Also what exactly are N's four weather teams, I can't make heads or tails of the link?

here you go

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Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Politoed:Lv77(Life Orb) - Hydro Pump,Focus Blast,Psychic,Hypnosis
Lanturn:Lv75 - Thunder,Signal Beam,Hydro Pump,Stockpile
Tentacruel:Lv75(Damp Rock) - Rain Dance,Giga Drain,Scald,Barrier
Omastar:Lv75(Damp Rock) - Rain Dance,Hydro Pump,Ice Beam,Earth Power
Kabutops:Lv75 - Stone Edge,Aqua Jet,X-Scissor,Low Kick
Starmie:Lv75 - Hydro Pump,Thunder,Psychic,Ice Beam

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Ninetales:Lv77(Life Orb) - Fire Blast,Solarbeam,Foul Play,Confuse Ray
Arcanine:Lv75 - Extreme Speed,Overheat,Wild Charge,Outrage
Rapidash:Lv75 - Megahorn,Drill Run,Flare Blitz,Solarbeam
Shiftry:Lv75(Heat Rock) - Dark Pulse,Solarbeam,Focus Blast,Sunny Day
Ninjask:Lv75(Heat Rock) - Sunny Day,X-Scissor,Solarbeam,Protect
Leafeon:Lv75 - Leaf Blade,X-Scissor,Attract,Iron Tail

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Hippowdon:Lv77(Life Orb) - Stone Edge,Crunch,Superpower,Stealth Rock
Gastrodon:Lv75(Smooth Rock) - Earth Power,Muddy Water,Ice Beam,Sandstorm
Cradily:Lv75(Smooth Rock) - Sandstorm,Giga Drain,Confuse Ray,Stockpile
Armaldo:Lv75 - Rock Slide,X-Scissor,Aqua Tail,Rock Polish
Scizor:Lv75 - Bullet Punch,Double Hit,Bug Bite,Aerial Ace
Rhyperior:Lv75 - Earthquake,Stone Edge,Fire Punch,Ice Punch

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Abomasnow:Lv77(Life Orb) - Blizzard,Wood Hammer,Earthquake,Grass Whistle
Vanilluxe:Lv75(Icy Rock) - Blizzard,Flash Cannon,Signal Beam,Hail
Cloyster:Lv75 - Icicle Spear,Hydro Pump,Ice Shard,Shell Smash
Mamoswine:Lv75 - Earthquake,Ice Shard,Blizzard,Stone Edge
Froslass:Lv75(Icy Rock) - Blizzard,Shadow Ball,Psychic,Hail
Glaceon:Lv75 - Blizzard,Shadow Ball,Signal Beam,Attract

N means business! He even packs 2 back ups incase the permaweather goes away
Maybe a seasonal battle?

 

[Joeyboy]

here you go

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Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Politoed:Lv77(Life Orb) - Hydro Pump,Focus Blast,Psychic,Hypnosis
Lanturn:Lv75 - Thunder,Signal Beam,Hydro Pump,Stockpile
Tentacruel:Lv75(Damp Rock) - Rain Dance,Giga Drain,Scald,Barrier
Omastar:Lv75(Damp Rock) - Rain Dance,Hydro Pump,Ice Beam,Earth Power
Kabutops:Lv75 - Stone Edge,Aqua Jet,X-Scissor,Low Kick
Starmie:Lv75 - Hydro Pump,Thunder,Psychic,Ice Beam

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Ninetales:Lv77(Life Orb) - Fire Blast,Solarbeam,Foul Play,Confuse Ray
Arcanine:Lv75 - Extreme Speed,Overheat,Wild Charge,Outrage
Rapidash:Lv75 - Megahorn,Drill Run,Flare Blitz,Solarbeam
Shiftry:Lv75(Heat Rock) - Dark Pulse,Solarbeam,Focus Blast,Sunny Day
Ninjask:Lv75(Heat Rock) - Sunny Day,X-Scissor,Solarbeam,Protect
Leafeon:Lv75 - Leaf Blade,X-Scissor,Attract,Iron Tail

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Hippowdon:Lv77(Life Orb) - Stone Edge,Crunch,Superpower,Stealth Rock
Gastrodon:Lv75(Smooth Rock) - Earth Power,Muddy Water,Ice Beam,Sandstorm
Cradily:Lv75(Smooth Rock) - Sandstorm,Giga Drain,Confuse Ray,Stockpile
Armaldo:Lv75 - Rock Slide,X-Scissor,Aqua Tail,Rock Polish
Scizor:Lv75 - Bullet Punch,Double Hit,Bug Bite,Aerial Ace
Rhyperior:Lv75 - Earthquake,Stone Edge,Fire Punch,Ice Punch

Pokemon Trainer N - Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore,Full Restore
Abomasnow:Lv77(Life Orb) - Blizzard,Wood Hammer,Earthquake,Grass Whistle
Vanilluxe:Lv75(Icy Rock) - Blizzard,Flash Cannon,Signal Beam,Hail
Cloyster:Lv75 - Icicle Spear,Hydro Pump,Ice Shard,Shell Smash
Mamoswine:Lv75 - Earthquake,Ice Shard,Blizzard,Stone Edge
Froslass:Lv75(Icy Rock) - Blizzard,Shadow Ball,Psychic,Hail
Glaceon:Lv75 - Blizzard,Shadow Ball,Signal Beam,Attract

N means business! He even packs 2 back ups incase the permaweather goes away
Maybe a seasonal battle?

Holy Arceus!! Those are awesome, ah I'm so proud of Gamefreak putting in all these strong trainers with tactics, but I never thought I'd see the day where they made perma-weather abuser trainers. Way to go GF! Yeah seasonal trainers seem like a good bet, I just have so many questions about them though, like where and why :)

Thanks R_N!