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Pokémon GO
- Thread starter Blitz
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To me, Rotom isn't really Tier 5 material. But it definitely could be exclusive to a lower tier raid, or even as a Field Research Task Reward!
For Tier 5, though, they have PLENTY to go around this time. There's Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Cresselia, Heatran and Regigigas. Giratina also has a second form, so we'll see how they implement that. And then bring them back a second time to introduce their shiny.
That's on top of the many Mythical Pokemon this generation. Darkrai and Arceus (which in Go could have 18 FORMS?), plus the 2½ pixie-like Mythical Pokemon, Manaphy, Phione and Shaymin. And then there's Shaymin's Sky Forme...
So. Many. Options.
For Tier 5, though, they have PLENTY to go around this time. There's Azelf, Mesprit, Uxie, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Cresselia, Heatran and Regigigas. Giratina also has a second form, so we'll see how they implement that. And then bring them back a second time to introduce their shiny.
That's on top of the many Mythical Pokemon this generation. Darkrai and Arceus (which in Go could have 18 FORMS?), plus the 2½ pixie-like Mythical Pokemon, Manaphy, Phione and Shaymin. And then there's Shaymin's Sky Forme...
So. Many. Options.
ITS TTAR TIME
Seriously, every single thing Ive maxed out got stronger
Seriously, every single thing Ive maxed out got stronger
False alarm!?
Everything is back to where it was! My Chansey back to 3061, all TTars back down, everything is healed...
Might be a good opportunity for people to screenshot their Pokemon list, to check the changes in CP!
EDIT: The data is out, though. Seems like most things got their Defense stat lowered, but they gained Stamina. Chansey and Blissey are the only ones to also lose Stamina. Attack stays the same on everything.
Chansey loses 48 Defense, and 13 Stamina.
Blissey loses 60 Defense (!), and 14 Stamina.
TTar loses 5 Defense, but gains 25 Stamina.
Interestingly, Shedinja is stated to have its Stamina boosted by 49?
Everything is back to where it was! My Chansey back to 3061, all TTars back down, everything is healed...
Might be a good opportunity for people to screenshot their Pokemon list, to check the changes in CP!
EDIT: The data is out, though. Seems like most things got their Defense stat lowered, but they gained Stamina. Chansey and Blissey are the only ones to also lose Stamina. Attack stays the same on everything.
Chansey loses 48 Defense, and 13 Stamina.
Blissey loses 60 Defense (!), and 14 Stamina.
TTar loses 5 Defense, but gains 25 Stamina.
Shamelessly copied from Gamepress.
Name ATK DEF STA
Bulbasaur 0 -7 38
Ivysaur 0 -8 35
Venusaur 0 -9 30
Charmander 0 -3 40
Charmeleon 0 -3 35
Charizard 0 -3 30
Squirtle 0 -1 39
Wartortle 0 0 35
Blastoise 0 -3 30
Caterpie 0 -7 38
Metapod 0 -14 37
Butterfree 0 -14 35
Weedle 0 -5 40
Kakuna 0 -11 38
Beedrill 0 -20 33
Pidgey 0 -3 40
Pidgeotto 0 -3 34
Pidgeot 0 -3 29
Rattata 0 0 42
Raticate 0 -5 36
Spearow 0 -1 40
Fearow 0 -2 33
Ekans 0 -5 41
Arbok 0 -5 35
Pikachu 0 -5 41
Raichu 0 -14 35
Sandshrew 0 -25 37
Sandslash 0 -27 31
Nidoran
0 -5 36
Nidorina 0 -6 32
Nidoqueen 0 -1 27
Nidoran
0 0 38
Nidorino 0 -1 34
Nidoking 0 -1 29
Clefairy 0 -8 32
Clefable 0 -9 26
Vulpix 0 -13 40
Ninetales 0 -14 31
Jigglypuff 0 -3 21
Wigglytuff 0 -3 15
Zubat 0 -3 40
Golbat 0 -3 31
Oddish 0 -4 38
Gloom 0 -3 35
Vileplume 0 -3 31
Paras 0 0 41
Parasect 0 0 35
Venonat 0 -2 35
Venomoth 0 -7 32
Diglett 0 -10 47
Dugtrio 0 -13 41
Meowth 0 -3 40
Persian 0 -3 33
Psyduck 0 -1 37
Golduck 0 -1 30
Mankey 0 -5 40
Primeape 0 -6 33
Growlithe 0 -3 36
Arcanine 0 0 27
Poliwag 0 0 40
Poliwhirl 0 -7 33
Poliwrath 0 -3 27
Abra 0 -21 43
Kadabra 0 -21 40
Alakazam 0 -27 36
Machop 0 -6 32
Machoke 0 -5 30
Machamp 0 -3 27
Bellsprout 0 -3 37
Weepinbell 0 -3 33
Victreebel 0 -3 30
Tentacool 0 -33 40
Tentacruel 0 -28 30
Geodude 0 -31 40
Graveler 0 -32 36
Golem 0 -31 30
Ponyta 0 -5 37
Rapidash 0 -5 33
Slowpoke 0 -11 27
Slowbro 0 -14 26
Magnemite 0 -7 43
Magneton 0 -13 37
Farfetch'd 0 -3 37
Doduo 0 -5 41
Dodrio 0 -5 35
Seel 0 -7 33
Dewgong 0 -7 27
Grimer 0 0 30
Muk 0 -12 23
Shellder 0 -34 42
Cloyster 0 -67 37
Gastly 0 -3 42
Haunter 0 -5 38
Gengar 0 -7 35
Onix 0 -56 41
Drowzee 0 -22 35
Hypno 0 -22 28
Krabby 0 -32 42
Kingler 0 -33 36
Voltorb 0 -3 40
Electrode 0 -6 35
Exeggcute 0 -15 35
Exeggutor 0 -9 26
Cubone 0 -21 37
Marowak 0 -14 35
Hitmonlee 0 -30 37
Hitmonchan 0 -15 37
Lickitung 0 0 27
Koffing 0 -23 40
Weezing 0 -24 33
Rhyhorn 0 -30 30
Rhydon 0 -35 23
Chansey 0 -48 -13
Tangela 0 -36 33
Kangaskhan 0 0 23
Horsea 0 -22 42
Seadra 0 -26 36
Goldeen 0 -5 38
Seaking 0 -7 30
Staryu 0 0 42
Starmie 0 0 35
Mr. Mime 0 -28 40
Scyther 0 0 32
Jynx 0 -31 33
Electabuzz 0 -15 33
Magmar 0 -15 33
Pinsir 0 -15 33
Tauros 0 -14 31
Magikarp 0 -17 45
Gyarados 0 -11 26
Lapras 0 -6 17
Ditto 0 0 38
Eevee 0 -7 36
Vaporeon 0 -16 17
Jolteon 0 -19 33
Flareon 0 -25 33
Porygon 0 -3 33
Omanyte 0 -21 41
Omastar 0 -26 32
Kabuto 0 -22 42
Kabutops 0 -17 35
Aerodactyl 0 -5 30
Snorlax 0 -21 10
Articuno 0 -13 27
Zapdos 0 -3 27
Moltres 0 -3 27
Dratini 0 -3 39
Dragonair 0 -3 34
Dragonite 0 -3 27
Mewtwo 0 0 21
Mew 0 0 25
Chikorita 0 0 38
Bayleef 0 0 35
Meganium 0 0 30
Cyndaquil 0 -3 40
Quilava 0 -3 35
Typhlosion 0 -3 30
Totodile 0 -7 37
Croconaw 0 -9 33
Feraligatr 0 -9 28
Sentret 0 -4 41
Furret 0 -5 28
Hoothoot 0 -13 35
Noctowl 0 -23 25
Ledyba 0 -24 40
Ledian 0 -30 36
Spinarak 0 0 40
Ariados 0 -4 32
Crobat 0 0 28
Chinchou 0 -9 31
Lanturn 0 -9 18
Pichu 0 -10 45
Cleffa 0 -12 37
Igglybuff 0 -2 27
Togepi 0 0 41
Togetic 0 -10 36
Natu 0 0 40
Xatu 0 0 33
Mareep 0 -3 36
Flaaffy 0 -3 32
Ampharos 0 -3 27
Bellossom 0 -3 31
Marill 0 0 32
Azumarill 0 0 25
Sudowoodo 0 -22 32
Politoed 0 -13 27
Hoppip 0 -7 41
Skiploom 0 -7 36
Jumpluff 0 -14 31
Aipom 0 0 36
Sunkern 0 0 42
Sunflora 0 -13 31
Yanma 0 0 33
Wooper 0 -9 36
Quagsire 0 -9 26
Espeon 0 -19 33
Umbreon 0 -10 26
Murkrow 0 0 35
Slowking 0 -14 26
Misdreavus 0 -13 35
Unown 0 0 38
Wobbuffet 0 0 2
Girafarig 0 0 32
Pineco 0 -24 37
Forretress 0 -37 31
Dunsparce 0 -3 25
Gligar 0 -20 33
Steelix 0 -61 31
Snubbull 0 -4 35
Granbull 0 -6 27
Qwilfish 0 -10 33
Scizor 0 -10 32
Shuckle 0 0 45
Heracross 0 -10 30
Sneasel 0 -11 36
Teddiursa 0 0 35
Ursaring 0 0 27
Slugma 0 0 40
Magcargo 0 -18 37
Swinub 0 -5 37
Piloswine 0 -9 25
Corsola 0 0 36
Remoraid 0 0 41
Octillery 0 0 31
Delibird 0 0 38
Mantine 0 -34 33
Skarmory 0 -34 33
Houndour 0 -10 38
Houndoom 0 -15 31
Kingdra 0 0 31
Phanpy 0 -9 27
Donphan 0 -29 27
Porygon2 0 -3 28
Stantler 0 -1 31
Smeargle 0 -5 36
Tyrogue 0 0 41
Hitmontop 0 -7 37
Smoochum 0 -25 38
Elekid 0 -9 38
Magby 0 -9 38
Miltank 0 -18 26
Blissey 0 -60 -14
Raikou 0 -15 27
Entei 0 -5 21
Suicune 0 0 25
Larvitar 0 0 37
Pupitar 0 0 32
Tyranitar 0 -5 25
Lugia 0 -13 23
Ho-Oh 0 -30 21
Celebi 0 0 25
Treecko 0 -10 40
Grovyle 0 -10 37
Sceptile 0 -11 32
Torchic 0 -5 38
Combusken 0 0 35
Blaziken 0 0 30
Mudkip 0 0 37
Marshtomp 0 0 32
Swampert 0 0 25
Poochyena 0 -2 41
Mightyena 0 -5 32
Zigzagoon 0 0 40
Linoone 0 0 30
Wurmple 0 -2 38
Silcoon 0 -14 37
Beautifly 0 0 35
Cascoon 0 -14 37
Dustox 0 -10 35
Lotad 0 -9 40
Lombre 0 -9 35
Ludicolo 0 -15 30
Seedot 0 -9 40
Nuzleaf 0 0 32
Shiftry 0 0 27
Taillow 0 0 40
Swellow 0 -6 35
Wingull 0 0 40
Pelipper 0 -15 35
Ralts 0 -4 43
Kirlia 0 -10 40
Gardevoir 0 -25 33
Surskit 0 -10 40
Masquerain 0 -11 32
Shroomish 0 0 35
Breloom 0 -9 35
Slakoth 0 -12 35
Vigoroth 0 -14 30
Slaking 0 -17 11
Nincada 0 -27 42
Ninjask 0 -2 34
Shedinja 0 -7 49
Whismur 0 0 34
Loudred 0 0 29
Exploud 0 -5 24
Makuhita 0 0 32
Hariyama 0 0 14
Azurill 0 0 37
Nosepass 0 -21 42
Skitty 0 -5 37
Delcatty 0 -5 32
Sableye 0 -5 37
Mawile 0 -14 37
Aron 0 -27 37
Lairon 0 -42 35
Aggron 0 -57 32
Meditite 0 0 42
Medicham 0 0 35
Electrike 0 0 40
Manectric 0 0 32
Plusle 0 -18 35
Minun 0 -17 35
Volbeat 0 -5 33
Illumise 0 -5 33
Roselia 0 -17 37
Gulpin 0 0 32
Swalot 0 0 25
Carvanha 0 0 38
Sharpedo 0 0 32
Wailmer 0 0 17
Wailord 0 0 7
Numel 0 -3 35
Camerupt 0 -3 32
Torkoal 0 -31 32
Spoink 0 -23 35
Grumpig 0 -23 30
Spinda 0 0 35
Trapinch 0 0 38
Vibrava 0 0 37
Flygon 0 0 30
Cacnea 0 0 37
Cacturne 0 0 32
Swablu 0 -7 38
Altaria 0 -7 31
Zangoose 0 0 31
Seviper 0 0 31
Lunatone 0 -10 27
Solrock 0 -10 27
Barboach 0 -1 37
Whiscash 0 -1 22
Corphish 0 -14 39
Crawdaunt 0 -14 34
Baltoy 0 -7 40
Claydol 0 -7 35
Lileep 0 -4 33
Cradily 0 -4 28
Anorith 0 0 38
Armaldo 0 -9 31
Feebas 0 -17 45
Milotic 0 -23 26
Castform 0 0 32
Kecleon 0 -23 35
Shuppet 0 -1 39
Banette 0 -1 34
Duskull 0 0 45
Dusclops 0 0 40
Tropius 0 -2 25
Chimecho 0 -4 31
Absol 0 0 33
Wynaut 0 0 26
Snorunt 0 0 37
Glalie 0 0 30
Spheal 0 0 32
Sealeo 0 0 27
Walrein 0 0 22
Clamperl 0 -14 41
Huntail 0 -15 36
Gorebyss 0 -15 36
Relicanth 0 -31 25
Luvdisc 0 -6 39
Bagon 0 -14 38
Shelgon 0 -24 33
Salamence 0 0 26
Beldum 0 -9 40
Metang 0 -9 35
Metagross 0 -19 30
Regirock 0 -47 30
Regice 0 -47 30
Registeel 0 0 30
Latias 0 -22 30
Latios 0 -16 30
Kyogre 0 -23 23
Groudon 0 -23 23
Rayquaza 0 0 22
Jirachi 0 0 25
Deoxys 0 0 37
Deoxys Normal 0 0 37
Deoxys Attack 0 0 37
Deoxys Defense 0 0 37
Deoxys Speed 0 0 37
Castform Normal 0 0 32
Castform Rainy 0 0 32
Castform Snowy 0 0 32
Castform Sunny 0 0 32
Exeggutor Normal 0 -9 26
Exeggutor Alolan 0 -5 26
Rattata Normal 0 0 42
Rattata Alolan 0 0 42
Raticate Normal 0 -5 36
Raticate Alolan 0 -5 31
Raichu Normal 0 -14 35
Raichu Alolan 0 -18 35
Sandshrew Normal 0 -25 37
Sandshrew Alolan 0 -25 37
Sandslash Normal 0 -27 31
Sandslash Alolan 0 -26 31
Vulpix Normal 0 -13 40
Vulpix Alolan 0 -13 40
Ninetales Normal 0 -14 31
Ninetales Alolan 0 -14 31
Diglett Normal 0 -10 47
Diglett Alolan 0 -7 47
Dugtrio Normal 0 -13 41
Dugtrio Alolan 0 -3 41
Meowth Normal 0 -3 40
Meowth Alolan 0 -3 40
Persian Normal 0 -3 33
Persian Alolan 0 -3 33
Geodude Normal 0 -31 40
Geodude Alolan 0 -31 40
Graveler Normal 0 -32 36
Graveler Alolan 0 -32 36
Golem Normal 0 -31 30
Golem Alolan 0 -31 30
Grimer Normal 0 0 30
Grimer Alolan 0 0 30
Muk Normal 0 -12 23
Muk Alolan 0 -12 23
Marowak Normal 0 -14 35
Marowak Alolan 0 -14 35
Name ATK DEF STA
Bulbasaur 0 -7 38
Ivysaur 0 -8 35
Venusaur 0 -9 30
Charmander 0 -3 40
Charmeleon 0 -3 35
Charizard 0 -3 30
Squirtle 0 -1 39
Wartortle 0 0 35
Blastoise 0 -3 30
Caterpie 0 -7 38
Metapod 0 -14 37
Butterfree 0 -14 35
Weedle 0 -5 40
Kakuna 0 -11 38
Beedrill 0 -20 33
Pidgey 0 -3 40
Pidgeotto 0 -3 34
Pidgeot 0 -3 29
Rattata 0 0 42
Raticate 0 -5 36
Spearow 0 -1 40
Fearow 0 -2 33
Ekans 0 -5 41
Arbok 0 -5 35
Pikachu 0 -5 41
Raichu 0 -14 35
Sandshrew 0 -25 37
Sandslash 0 -27 31
Nidoran
0 -5 36Nidorina 0 -6 32
Nidoqueen 0 -1 27
Nidoran
0 0 38Nidorino 0 -1 34
Nidoking 0 -1 29
Clefairy 0 -8 32
Clefable 0 -9 26
Vulpix 0 -13 40
Ninetales 0 -14 31
Jigglypuff 0 -3 21
Wigglytuff 0 -3 15
Zubat 0 -3 40
Golbat 0 -3 31
Oddish 0 -4 38
Gloom 0 -3 35
Vileplume 0 -3 31
Paras 0 0 41
Parasect 0 0 35
Venonat 0 -2 35
Venomoth 0 -7 32
Diglett 0 -10 47
Dugtrio 0 -13 41
Meowth 0 -3 40
Persian 0 -3 33
Psyduck 0 -1 37
Golduck 0 -1 30
Mankey 0 -5 40
Primeape 0 -6 33
Growlithe 0 -3 36
Arcanine 0 0 27
Poliwag 0 0 40
Poliwhirl 0 -7 33
Poliwrath 0 -3 27
Abra 0 -21 43
Kadabra 0 -21 40
Alakazam 0 -27 36
Machop 0 -6 32
Machoke 0 -5 30
Machamp 0 -3 27
Bellsprout 0 -3 37
Weepinbell 0 -3 33
Victreebel 0 -3 30
Tentacool 0 -33 40
Tentacruel 0 -28 30
Geodude 0 -31 40
Graveler 0 -32 36
Golem 0 -31 30
Ponyta 0 -5 37
Rapidash 0 -5 33
Slowpoke 0 -11 27
Slowbro 0 -14 26
Magnemite 0 -7 43
Magneton 0 -13 37
Farfetch'd 0 -3 37
Doduo 0 -5 41
Dodrio 0 -5 35
Seel 0 -7 33
Dewgong 0 -7 27
Grimer 0 0 30
Muk 0 -12 23
Shellder 0 -34 42
Cloyster 0 -67 37
Gastly 0 -3 42
Haunter 0 -5 38
Gengar 0 -7 35
Onix 0 -56 41
Drowzee 0 -22 35
Hypno 0 -22 28
Krabby 0 -32 42
Kingler 0 -33 36
Voltorb 0 -3 40
Electrode 0 -6 35
Exeggcute 0 -15 35
Exeggutor 0 -9 26
Cubone 0 -21 37
Marowak 0 -14 35
Hitmonlee 0 -30 37
Hitmonchan 0 -15 37
Lickitung 0 0 27
Koffing 0 -23 40
Weezing 0 -24 33
Rhyhorn 0 -30 30
Rhydon 0 -35 23
Chansey 0 -48 -13
Tangela 0 -36 33
Kangaskhan 0 0 23
Horsea 0 -22 42
Seadra 0 -26 36
Goldeen 0 -5 38
Seaking 0 -7 30
Staryu 0 0 42
Starmie 0 0 35
Mr. Mime 0 -28 40
Scyther 0 0 32
Jynx 0 -31 33
Electabuzz 0 -15 33
Magmar 0 -15 33
Pinsir 0 -15 33
Tauros 0 -14 31
Magikarp 0 -17 45
Gyarados 0 -11 26
Lapras 0 -6 17
Ditto 0 0 38
Eevee 0 -7 36
Vaporeon 0 -16 17
Jolteon 0 -19 33
Flareon 0 -25 33
Porygon 0 -3 33
Omanyte 0 -21 41
Omastar 0 -26 32
Kabuto 0 -22 42
Kabutops 0 -17 35
Aerodactyl 0 -5 30
Snorlax 0 -21 10
Articuno 0 -13 27
Zapdos 0 -3 27
Moltres 0 -3 27
Dratini 0 -3 39
Dragonair 0 -3 34
Dragonite 0 -3 27
Mewtwo 0 0 21
Mew 0 0 25
Chikorita 0 0 38
Bayleef 0 0 35
Meganium 0 0 30
Cyndaquil 0 -3 40
Quilava 0 -3 35
Typhlosion 0 -3 30
Totodile 0 -7 37
Croconaw 0 -9 33
Feraligatr 0 -9 28
Sentret 0 -4 41
Furret 0 -5 28
Hoothoot 0 -13 35
Noctowl 0 -23 25
Ledyba 0 -24 40
Ledian 0 -30 36
Spinarak 0 0 40
Ariados 0 -4 32
Crobat 0 0 28
Chinchou 0 -9 31
Lanturn 0 -9 18
Pichu 0 -10 45
Cleffa 0 -12 37
Igglybuff 0 -2 27
Togepi 0 0 41
Togetic 0 -10 36
Natu 0 0 40
Xatu 0 0 33
Mareep 0 -3 36
Flaaffy 0 -3 32
Ampharos 0 -3 27
Bellossom 0 -3 31
Marill 0 0 32
Azumarill 0 0 25
Sudowoodo 0 -22 32
Politoed 0 -13 27
Hoppip 0 -7 41
Skiploom 0 -7 36
Jumpluff 0 -14 31
Aipom 0 0 36
Sunkern 0 0 42
Sunflora 0 -13 31
Yanma 0 0 33
Wooper 0 -9 36
Quagsire 0 -9 26
Espeon 0 -19 33
Umbreon 0 -10 26
Murkrow 0 0 35
Slowking 0 -14 26
Misdreavus 0 -13 35
Unown 0 0 38
Wobbuffet 0 0 2
Girafarig 0 0 32
Pineco 0 -24 37
Forretress 0 -37 31
Dunsparce 0 -3 25
Gligar 0 -20 33
Steelix 0 -61 31
Snubbull 0 -4 35
Granbull 0 -6 27
Qwilfish 0 -10 33
Scizor 0 -10 32
Shuckle 0 0 45
Heracross 0 -10 30
Sneasel 0 -11 36
Teddiursa 0 0 35
Ursaring 0 0 27
Slugma 0 0 40
Magcargo 0 -18 37
Swinub 0 -5 37
Piloswine 0 -9 25
Corsola 0 0 36
Remoraid 0 0 41
Octillery 0 0 31
Delibird 0 0 38
Mantine 0 -34 33
Skarmory 0 -34 33
Houndour 0 -10 38
Houndoom 0 -15 31
Kingdra 0 0 31
Phanpy 0 -9 27
Donphan 0 -29 27
Porygon2 0 -3 28
Stantler 0 -1 31
Smeargle 0 -5 36
Tyrogue 0 0 41
Hitmontop 0 -7 37
Smoochum 0 -25 38
Elekid 0 -9 38
Magby 0 -9 38
Miltank 0 -18 26
Blissey 0 -60 -14
Raikou 0 -15 27
Entei 0 -5 21
Suicune 0 0 25
Larvitar 0 0 37
Pupitar 0 0 32
Tyranitar 0 -5 25
Lugia 0 -13 23
Ho-Oh 0 -30 21
Celebi 0 0 25
Treecko 0 -10 40
Grovyle 0 -10 37
Sceptile 0 -11 32
Torchic 0 -5 38
Combusken 0 0 35
Blaziken 0 0 30
Mudkip 0 0 37
Marshtomp 0 0 32
Swampert 0 0 25
Poochyena 0 -2 41
Mightyena 0 -5 32
Zigzagoon 0 0 40
Linoone 0 0 30
Wurmple 0 -2 38
Silcoon 0 -14 37
Beautifly 0 0 35
Cascoon 0 -14 37
Dustox 0 -10 35
Lotad 0 -9 40
Lombre 0 -9 35
Ludicolo 0 -15 30
Seedot 0 -9 40
Nuzleaf 0 0 32
Shiftry 0 0 27
Taillow 0 0 40
Swellow 0 -6 35
Wingull 0 0 40
Pelipper 0 -15 35
Ralts 0 -4 43
Kirlia 0 -10 40
Gardevoir 0 -25 33
Surskit 0 -10 40
Masquerain 0 -11 32
Shroomish 0 0 35
Breloom 0 -9 35
Slakoth 0 -12 35
Vigoroth 0 -14 30
Slaking 0 -17 11
Nincada 0 -27 42
Ninjask 0 -2 34
Shedinja 0 -7 49
Whismur 0 0 34
Loudred 0 0 29
Exploud 0 -5 24
Makuhita 0 0 32
Hariyama 0 0 14
Azurill 0 0 37
Nosepass 0 -21 42
Skitty 0 -5 37
Delcatty 0 -5 32
Sableye 0 -5 37
Mawile 0 -14 37
Aron 0 -27 37
Lairon 0 -42 35
Aggron 0 -57 32
Meditite 0 0 42
Medicham 0 0 35
Electrike 0 0 40
Manectric 0 0 32
Plusle 0 -18 35
Minun 0 -17 35
Volbeat 0 -5 33
Illumise 0 -5 33
Roselia 0 -17 37
Gulpin 0 0 32
Swalot 0 0 25
Carvanha 0 0 38
Sharpedo 0 0 32
Wailmer 0 0 17
Wailord 0 0 7
Numel 0 -3 35
Camerupt 0 -3 32
Torkoal 0 -31 32
Spoink 0 -23 35
Grumpig 0 -23 30
Spinda 0 0 35
Trapinch 0 0 38
Vibrava 0 0 37
Flygon 0 0 30
Cacnea 0 0 37
Cacturne 0 0 32
Swablu 0 -7 38
Altaria 0 -7 31
Zangoose 0 0 31
Seviper 0 0 31
Lunatone 0 -10 27
Solrock 0 -10 27
Barboach 0 -1 37
Whiscash 0 -1 22
Corphish 0 -14 39
Crawdaunt 0 -14 34
Baltoy 0 -7 40
Claydol 0 -7 35
Lileep 0 -4 33
Cradily 0 -4 28
Anorith 0 0 38
Armaldo 0 -9 31
Feebas 0 -17 45
Milotic 0 -23 26
Castform 0 0 32
Kecleon 0 -23 35
Shuppet 0 -1 39
Banette 0 -1 34
Duskull 0 0 45
Dusclops 0 0 40
Tropius 0 -2 25
Chimecho 0 -4 31
Absol 0 0 33
Wynaut 0 0 26
Snorunt 0 0 37
Glalie 0 0 30
Spheal 0 0 32
Sealeo 0 0 27
Walrein 0 0 22
Clamperl 0 -14 41
Huntail 0 -15 36
Gorebyss 0 -15 36
Relicanth 0 -31 25
Luvdisc 0 -6 39
Bagon 0 -14 38
Shelgon 0 -24 33
Salamence 0 0 26
Beldum 0 -9 40
Metang 0 -9 35
Metagross 0 -19 30
Regirock 0 -47 30
Regice 0 -47 30
Registeel 0 0 30
Latias 0 -22 30
Latios 0 -16 30
Kyogre 0 -23 23
Groudon 0 -23 23
Rayquaza 0 0 22
Jirachi 0 0 25
Deoxys 0 0 37
Deoxys Normal 0 0 37
Deoxys Attack 0 0 37
Deoxys Defense 0 0 37
Deoxys Speed 0 0 37
Castform Normal 0 0 32
Castform Rainy 0 0 32
Castform Snowy 0 0 32
Castform Sunny 0 0 32
Exeggutor Normal 0 -9 26
Exeggutor Alolan 0 -5 26
Rattata Normal 0 0 42
Rattata Alolan 0 0 42
Raticate Normal 0 -5 36
Raticate Alolan 0 -5 31
Raichu Normal 0 -14 35
Raichu Alolan 0 -18 35
Sandshrew Normal 0 -25 37
Sandshrew Alolan 0 -25 37
Sandslash Normal 0 -27 31
Sandslash Alolan 0 -26 31
Vulpix Normal 0 -13 40
Vulpix Alolan 0 -13 40
Ninetales Normal 0 -14 31
Ninetales Alolan 0 -14 31
Diglett Normal 0 -10 47
Diglett Alolan 0 -7 47
Dugtrio Normal 0 -13 41
Dugtrio Alolan 0 -3 41
Meowth Normal 0 -3 40
Meowth Alolan 0 -3 40
Persian Normal 0 -3 33
Persian Alolan 0 -3 33
Geodude Normal 0 -31 40
Geodude Alolan 0 -31 40
Graveler Normal 0 -32 36
Graveler Alolan 0 -32 36
Golem Normal 0 -31 30
Golem Alolan 0 -31 30
Grimer Normal 0 0 30
Grimer Alolan 0 0 30
Muk Normal 0 -12 23
Muk Alolan 0 -12 23
Marowak Normal 0 -14 35
Marowak Alolan 0 -14 35
Interestingly, Shedinja is stated to have its Stamina boosted by 49?
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Anything with HP over 200 in main games (400 in GO by past calculations) gets decreased, since its now *1.75 + 50
But why doesnt Shedinja have 51? (+50)
But why doesnt Shedinja have 51? (+50)
Meteor Mash's tentative stats, according to the video, are 90 Power, 2.7 second duration (Dynamic Punch / Avalanche). It's not super broken but that's p good and if they go with this baseline Metagross should be insane.
Here's a document with the full rebalance factored in. Notable things:
1) Everything gets a Defense nerf or no change. The frailer the Pokémon, the closer it was to receiving no change. The bulkier the Pokémon, the more defense it would lose. If a Pokémon specializes in one defensive stat (like Cloyster and Steelix) and not the other, it gets penalized. Balanced Pokémon are rewarded.
2) Mostly everything gets an HP buff, with Pokemon that had lower base HP stats getting massive buffs. Notably, the likes of Dusclops, Shuckle and Deoxys improve substantially.
3) Blissey. Blissey is the Pokémon affected the most by this, as it lost 60 points in Defense and lost some HP. It is much frailer now and, once they switch the formula again, should be easier to manhandle in gyms. That being said, it does decay in gyms less thanks to its 2757 max CP, so that's a tiny buff.
4) Mewtwo. Notably, Mewtwo was NOT changed during this initial release. I speculate that it's because of it's current Tier Boss status, and will likely have its changes applied later on. There is precedence with this happening to Lapras in the November 2016 CP rebalance, as it was a Pokémon that was having a massive event in Japan at the time and also did not receive its changes until later on. Once its changes are applied, Mewtwo is the strongest Legendary in the series currently in Go with an improved HP stat, and should now be above Groudon / Kyogre in sheer CP.
Presumably because of the HP buffs (and nothing being healed to compensate), the formula change was reverted. Should get it before Gen 4 drops alongside our Pokémon being properly healed.
Here's a document with the full rebalance factored in. Notable things:
1) Everything gets a Defense nerf or no change. The frailer the Pokémon, the closer it was to receiving no change. The bulkier the Pokémon, the more defense it would lose. If a Pokémon specializes in one defensive stat (like Cloyster and Steelix) and not the other, it gets penalized. Balanced Pokémon are rewarded.
2) Mostly everything gets an HP buff, with Pokemon that had lower base HP stats getting massive buffs. Notably, the likes of Dusclops, Shuckle and Deoxys improve substantially.
3) Blissey. Blissey is the Pokémon affected the most by this, as it lost 60 points in Defense and lost some HP. It is much frailer now and, once they switch the formula again, should be easier to manhandle in gyms. That being said, it does decay in gyms less thanks to its 2757 max CP, so that's a tiny buff.
4) Mewtwo. Notably, Mewtwo was NOT changed during this initial release. I speculate that it's because of it's current Tier Boss status, and will likely have its changes applied later on. There is precedence with this happening to Lapras in the November 2016 CP rebalance, as it was a Pokémon that was having a massive event in Japan at the time and also did not receive its changes until later on. Once its changes are applied, Mewtwo is the strongest Legendary in the series currently in Go with an improved HP stat, and should now be above Groudon / Kyogre in sheer CP.
Presumably because of the HP buffs (and nothing being healed to compensate), the formula change was reverted. Should get it before Gen 4 drops alongside our Pokémon being properly healed.
Ahead of Community Day, I have about 450 Poke Balls in total and 250 Pinap Berries. I'll probably be able to recoup some at a time as I go, but hopefully I get a better one than my best one right now (10/15/15)
Two updates were released today on iOS, maybe there was something wrong with the initial release that they had to roll back the CP changes.
Two updates were released today on iOS, maybe there was something wrong with the initial release that they had to roll back the CP changes.
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Generation 4 is live!
Bidoof, Piplup and Staravia crowding my radar this morning.
EDIT: What's available in the first wave, according to The Silph Road:
Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra
Chimchar, Monferno, Infernape
Piplup, Prinplup, Empoleon
Starly, Staravia, Staraptor
Bidoof, Bibarel
Cricketot, Kricketune
Buneary, Lopunny
Chatot - Only reports from southern hemisphere? (Brazil, Australia)
Carnivine - Only reports from southern US? (Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia)
Pachirisu - Canadian regional? (Saskatchewan, Edmonton)
Riolu - 10km eggs
Bidoof, Piplup and Staravia crowding my radar this morning.
EDIT: What's available in the first wave, according to The Silph Road:
Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra
Chimchar, Monferno, Infernape
Piplup, Prinplup, Empoleon
Starly, Staravia, Staraptor
Bidoof, Bibarel
Cricketot, Kricketune
Buneary, Lopunny
Chatot - Only reports from southern hemisphere? (Brazil, Australia)
Carnivine - Only reports from southern US? (Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia)
Pachirisu - Canadian regional? (Saskatchewan, Edmonton)
Riolu - 10km eggs
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Riolu from 10Ks.
Here's all stats and movesets for the Gen 4 mons. Note this is tentative and subject to change - additionally, on Niantic's end there's mistakes like Shaymin's Formes swapping stats and Vespiquen having a 50/50 gender ratio, but let's see.
Here's all stats and movesets for the Gen 4 mons. Note this is tentative and subject to change - additionally, on Niantic's end there's mistakes like Shaymin's Formes swapping stats and Vespiquen having a 50/50 gender ratio, but let's see.
Can somebody explain to me how nerfing all defensive 'Mons and buffing all offensive 'Mons is supposed to make defensive 'Mons better?
I think the whole "offense vs defense" situation will be skewed more towards attackers than ever. Most if not all mons are going to lose Defense and Stamina so that's a big oof for them. However, defenders will be comparatively better than the earlier meta because Blissey and Chansey are getting nerfed a lot. In other words, gen 4 Slowbro will be more viable than gen 3 Slowbro, but being a good defender in general will be more difficult. This nerf/buff/whatever has not gone into effect yet and we don't know when it will.
Also, Dargad 's list of available mons checks out from what I can tell, but there have been reports of the Shinx line. No final evolutions for past-gen mons are available, and I don't think the baby versions are available either.
Chomp does indeed become the best Dragon Type, legendary Pokemon are disappoining in general, Azelf isnt too terrible, Darkrai does get a good moveset, Arceus and Regikickass have no Normal moves, Roserade becomes the best Poison with ease, Electabuzz is the fastest Electric
They changed how Stamina and Defense are calculated, and then changed how these new stats are calculated in the CP value, to "better" illustrate a Pokemon's efficiency in battle.
Now, the question is: How will the new Defense stat be used to calculate damage taken? There's speculation that every Pokemon lost Defense because each point in Defense is going to mean more tankiness in battle. We'll see when the changes come live.
Blissey, Chansey and Snorlax will take a hit for sure. They're still expected to be good Defenders, just not miles ahead of everything else.
From what I've been reading, someone got a Luxio from a 10k egg, which seems like it's a glitch since it's the middle evolution of the Shinx line. We'll see.
EDIT: Togekiss does NOT get Fairy Wind as it was hoped, so no pure Fairy attacker in Go as of yet!
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Wonder what they're going to do with Cherrim, its form change is dependent on its Ability.
It's the same concept as Castform, whose form changes depending on the weather. They could have Cherrim spawn in its Overcast Form in every weather condition, except sunny, where it would be in the Sunshine Form
And like Castform, it would probably stay in that form once caught.
Eh? Now I don't know if I exactly wants the rebalance since defending will just become even harder. I was right on the increased importance in attacker (and net nerf in general Defense).
I've also heard of rumour that they are going to disable 2xHP for defender too. This is so far still a baseless claim, is it?
As of now nothing of the newcomers are too important, are they? I can take my time I suppose. I also am struggling with box space especially with Beldum CD later....
I've also heard of rumour that they are going to disable 2xHP for defender too. This is so far still a baseless claim, is it?
As of now nothing of the newcomers are too important, are they? I can take my time I suppose. I also am struggling with box space especially with Beldum CD later....
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Usually a new generation comes with increasing the max space possible as I'm starting to do some housecleaning of older stuff that I'd normally save for when there's a double candy event going on. I have been doing lots of trading with an alternate account that was originally my son's in hopes that certain higher stardust pokemon will re-roll into a lucky with desirable IVs at least.
How do you Eevee into Glaceon or Leafeon?
Nobody knows yet
I feel like when Mewtwo leaves this weekend, they'll launch a Halloween event, and introduce even more Gen 4 Pokemon (maybe even some cross generation evolutions like Dusknoir and Froslass?) Then I presume the starters won't be as common as they are now, like in Gen 3. I just recently hit the amount of candy necessary for Sceptile... So I'm trying to get as many as I can now, even though I'll have to take time to purge my storage before Sunday.