Pokémon Presents - Pokémon Day 2025 - Pokemon ZA Info & Pokemon Champions Announced

Worldie said:
I have 0 interest in Mario Kart, and I don't think that playing SV or ZA at 5 more FPS justifies a investment of 450€ + whatever the upgrade price is.
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I don't think it makes a big difference for the price but you do realize ZA is going from 30 -> 60fps on the new system, right?

Worldie said:
Important clarification: People aren't angry about the Switch 2's price.
The console's price is perfectly fine and in line with what most (reasonable) people expected.

It's the game's price that people are angry about. As well as the way those were purposely hidden during the presentation and just quietly revealed after.
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Don't tell me what "people" are or aren't. I've seen plenty of people complain about the hardware price itself.

Karxrida said:
This has unironcially been a thing since forever. Especially when you were a kid and had a way harder time getting ahold of software.

Hell, the Wii very famously had inflated sales because many people wanted it just for Wii Sports, and a good chunk of Wii U owners probably only got it for Smash.
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I don't care what people do or don't, you shouldn't buy a system for one game.
 
Pikachu315111 said:
Also, crazy idea, if you do release Gen 10 within these four years, maybe make them a dual console game too. Afterall, since Switch 2 is backwards compatible, that means combined with the Switch that'll be the best way to have the biggest audience, plus people who get a Switch 2 later on can just buy the expansion pack to make their game into the Switch 2 version.
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You could have stopped after crazy idea lol. Very wishful thinking. It will be an ideal game to boost sales partway through the lifecycle of the Switch 2. And I’m sure there are many who would rather it be designed purely for the Switch 2 hardware.

Honestly if I do buy the Switch 2 it’ll likely be for Gen 10 myself. I’ll be saving incase I do want to do Z-A on the new one but atm probably not.
 
AztecCroc said:
Regional pricing only works on nonphysical things. You're not gonna get it for the console itself, and the only way you're getting it for the games is on digital ones.
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Considering the game prices are the reason for the global uproar... that's a pretty sweet deal. :mehowth:

Mad Ram said:
Lol, and speaking of tariffs...

Yeah, that's just something you can blame Brazil for. But hey, at least you have quality Brazilian CPUs...:row:
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:pikuh:

Fuck the Brazilian government, and fuck taxes, but are you seriously implying that one of the top economies in the world starting a trade war isn't making things worse?

Actually, don't answer that. It's not the right place to discuss such things.
ant4456 said:
I don't think it makes a big difference for the price but you do realize ZA is going from 30 -> 60fps on the new system, right?
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I wasn't really paying attention to that segment, but it did look stable too, didn't it?

Metroid Prime 4 looks absolutely stunning, so I'm curious to see how LZA will perform on the Switch 2.
 
Volt-Ikazuchi said:
:pikuh:

Fuck the Brazilian government, and fuck taxes, but are you seriously implying that one of the top economies in the world starting a trade war isn't making things worse?
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No, in fact I very clearly posted that was a major cause of it before. I'm also well aware on Brazil's tariffs on hardware that already existed. That was more the point I was getting at. Of course it's also affected by threats of a global trade war, but what I was more getting at is Brazil's issues with the prices are part of its own previously existing protectionism so any problems other regions will have to deal with prices will be especially pronounced in Brazil.

Edit: And the Switch 2 Preorders are delayed thanks to tariffs... :row: I'm going to become the Joker
 
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Huh..not huge amounts of new info but you need to beat a bunch of trainers in order to proceed to a promotion match to rank up.

Guess that mean sneaking around and taking out high profile trainers to gain more points might be the way to climb the ladder quickly
 
doipy hooves said:
This is just a section on the website.

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oh hey, the site updated. these weren't up when I last went to check. Actually there is quite a bit there. We knew we could be spotted but they can straight up get a surprise advantage on you kinda like if you mess up in persona 5. gameplay loop seems to be catching and gaining items during the day, then grinding several battles at night to rank up, rinse repeat til plot progresses. Funny how the spirit of PLA is carried by still needing to be sneaky and getting the drop on others, even in modern day.
 
Bringing the discussion back to Z-A a little bit, this sequence of events caught my attention:

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It seems Altaria uses an attack (Possibly Moonblast?) against Mega Ampharos, but Ampharos sends its own attack and "overpowers" the move, damaging Altaria and cancelling the Moonblast altogether

Could mean that some moves can just clash and prevent other moves from going off if timed right. Could also be part of either Mega Mechanics or whatever that C+ icon is supposed to be. For the 3 of you still coping about abilities, you could choose to interpret this as Mold Breaker now ignoring moves!!

Very interested to see how this new battle system will work
 
So I accept my situation is not everyone’s situation

But I’ve had my switch since day one release in the UK. It’s the first release, dark grey one. It’s old, creaky and struggling. I’ve loved every minute of owning it. But it’s had its day. It has done seven, nearly eight years sterling service. I salute it, and will retire it with sadness.

The one off price for Switch 2, I can take with a bit of saving. So my pre-order has been made.

I am looking forward to buying Legends ZA for Switch 2 and playing SV with the upgrade promised.
 
AquaticPanic said:
Bringing the discussion back to Z-A a little bit, this sequence of events caught my attention:

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It seems Altaria uses an attack (Possibly Moonblast?) against Mega Ampharos, but Ampharos sends its own attack and "overpowers" the move, damaging Altaria and cancelling the Moonblast altogether

Could mean that some moves can just clash and prevent other moves from going off if timed right. Could also be part of either Mega Mechanics or whatever that C+ icon is supposed to be. For the 3 of you still coping about abilities, you could choose to interpret this as Mold Breaker now ignoring moves!!

Very interested to see how this new battle system will work
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>They got Dragon Ball beam struggles now

Legends Z-A is making history as the first Pokemon game designed exclusively for Yung Dramps of smogon dot com
 
CynicalGiant said:
it looks like it could be like every electric attack that exists because every move is essentially getting redone for this game specifically, so I just picked the one that was funniest sounding.
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Yeah, but Discharge is a spread move that's usually depicted as an expanding burst of electricity around the user, which would make more sense to keep in this sort of battle system than turning it into a single target projectile.
 
AztecCroc said:
Yeah, but Discharge is a spread move that's usually depicted as an expanding burst of electricity around the user, which would make more sense to keep in this sort of battle system than turning it into a single target projectile.
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it's over, I've depicted you as the weak Moonblasting Altaria and me as the overpowering Discharge/Thunderbolt/Electro Ball/Thunder/Charge Beam/Shock Wave Mega Ampharos
 
CynicalGiant said:
it's over, I've depicted you as the weak Moonblasting Altaria and me as the overpowering Discharge/Thunderbolt/Electro Ball/Thunder/Charge Beam/Shock Wave Mega Ampharos
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Forgot Zap Cannon. Which, joking aside, I do feel is notable as Zap Cannon is one of Ampharos Special Electric-type Moves that is over 95 Power. While we obviously don't know how this "move overpowering" works, I have to think that there is an "overpowering" factor involved. Now it could just be simply comparing the raw damage the Moves have, though we can't write off if maybe a Move's Power is also involved if not sole deciding factor.

Like, if it was just raw power, than in theory a high level Ampharos' Thunder Shock or Charge Beam may be strong enough to overpower an Altaria's Moonblast; though that would look kinda pathetic.

Now if the Move's Base Power also needs to be at/over (or at least near) the other Move's Base Power, that would mean it'll have to be Zap Cannon (120), Thunder (110), Thunderbolt (90), or maybe Discharge (80) to overpower Moonblast (95).
 
What’s people’s general feeling on the perceived lack of regional variants for this game?

It makes PLA’s trio of starters a one off, which seems a shame to me. I was hoping for a regional Meganium, it being a mega as the rumour mill says seems like a bit of a disappointment.
 
S.A.C. Martin said:
What’s people’s general feeling on the perceived lack of regional variants for this game?

It makes PLA’s trio of starters a one off, which seems a shame to me. I was hoping for a regional Meganium, it being a mega as the rumour mill says seems like a bit of a disappointment.
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Too early to know, and take every single leak you hear with a grain of salt.
 
S.A.C. Martin said:
What’s people’s general feeling on the perceived lack of regional variants for this game?
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most of my apprehension to more megas was that it means less regionals, divergents/convergents, and new pokemon in general since the generation they were introduced had the least amount of new pokemon ever. whether leaks are real or not or whatever. I haven't really paid much attention to it.

the bonus to the megas, if the starters get megas, is that at least pokemon like Meganium will finally get a reasonably buffed moveset since its still base Chikorita/Bayleef and Meganium before the latter megas.

Pikachu315111 said:
Forgot Zap Cannon. Which, joking aside, I do feel is notable as Zap Cannon is one of Ampharos Special Electric-type Moves that is over 95 Power.

Now if the Move's Base Power also needs to be at/over (or at least near) the other Move's Base Power
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it is probably based on the pokemon's attacking stat, since Mega Ampharos is 165 SAtk vs Altaria's 70, if it isn't move damage specific.

Guess it could be Zap Cannon, it does look like Zap Cannon does in Gen 6 but in more recent gens its randomly blueish instead of orangeish.

could also randomly be a new property of various moves and/or something that Megas get as a bonus?
 
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S.A.C. Martin said:
What’s people’s general feeling on the perceived lack of regional variants for this game?

It makes PLA’s trio of starters a one off, which seems a shame to me. I was hoping for a regional Meganium, it being a mega as the rumour mill says seems like a bit of a disappointment.
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Honestly I'm OK with no regional variants in this game, provided it was true.

Lore wise it doesn't fit because not many years have passed since XY, where we didn't see any Kalosian Pokémon in the wild. Not only that but, if we were to suppose Pokémon could adapt to Lumiose City's ecosystem itself, it would take longer than a few years.

Gameplay wise I think it's better for GF to focus on new megas, which have been missing for so much time. In addition, introducing regional forms in every game could've made them seem less interesting and eventually the fandom would've got tired.

Just wait for Gen X and have GF introducing a new bunch of them.
 
XYZ15 said:
Lore wise it doesn't fit because not many years have passed since XY, where we didn't see any Kalosian Pokémon in the wild. Not only that but, if we were to suppose Pokémon could adapt to Lumiose City's ecosystem itself, it would take longer than a few years.
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They could easily just have the new tower be the reason, akin to the starters Lamenton brings over all evolve into regional final forms despite not being in the region for very long at all. If they want regionals in the game they will invent reasons to have them there (pancakes)
XYZ15 said:
Gameplay wise I think it's better for GF to focus on new megas, which have been missing for so much time. In addition, introducing regional forms in every game could've made them seem less interesting and eventually the fandom would've got tired.
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I just hope all these new megas aren't trapped in a phone app for another decade.
 
Personally, I can't be mad at only new Megas because it's a Kalos game that is reintroducing them after so many years. But it would also absolutely kill my hype because in every entry I always use new Pokemon on the first playtrough to test how they do ingame. Even if I do a full new Megas team I have to do gymnastics to avoid type overlap and the nature of the mechanic limits me to one each battle anyways. I also do think it's a terrible idea to introduce them if you are going to discard the gimmick again in gen 10 no matter if Champions is around, because that pretty much renders ZA as some kind of extremely self-contained experience. Which is not a bad thing in other games, but in Pokemon where you can literally have a growing collection shared between all games is kinda lame.

But again I can't be mad- the game is tailored for a specific part of the fanbase that probably values new Megas more than any other thing and that's perfectly understandable because they have been waiting three gens for it. In that sense it's hard to blame Game Freak. I just would rather prefer a better balance, specially regarding new Pokemon. I like regional forms and all, but LA literally just reintroduced proper cross gen evos since forever and I would loathe if they were already getting rid of them again. And I can't repeat this enough: Kalos is THE refion where they should introduce more legendaries. Even Galar has more because of the Crown Tundra.

It's too early for me to have a very strong opinion on it- at this point I may not even buy Gen 10 and even if I do maybe it *does* have Megas, cross evos, regionals, everything, who knows. I'm not getting mad yet at something they may or not be doing.

(that is the rational thinking anyways- if we only get new Megas you WILL see me constantly bitching about how Typhlosion was robbed from an actual upgrade because of, ironically enough, favoritism. fucking inverse Charizard situation)

XYZ15 said:
Honestly I'm OK with no regional variants in this game, provided it was true.

Lore wise it doesn't fit because not many years have passed since XY, where we didn't see any Kalosian Pokémon in the wild. Not only that but, if we were to suppose Pokémon could adapt to Lumiose City's ecosystem itself, it would take longer than a few years.

Gameplay wise I think it's better for GF to focus on new megas, which have been missing for so much time. In addition, introducing regional forms in every game could've made them seem less interesting and eventually the fandom would've got tired.

Just wait for Gen X and have GF introducing a new bunch of them.
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I don't know why prople keep saying this when LA was literally very explicit on how the starters got their regional forms not by a natural process but by what can only be described as magic shit happening in Hisui.

There is no stablished populations that evolved naturally into Hisuian Typhlosion/Decidueye/Samurott. They are literally three random starters Laventon took from other regions to bring to Hisui. They didn't take years to evolve, hell they probably didn't take months unless the events ingame take that long which seems pretty unlikely if the protagonist is actually doing the things they are told and not fucking around. And they were all single individuals

Why can that happen in Hisui but not in Kalos if there is sheanigans going on with Mega energy and the Prism Tower?

We also never saw wild Chikorita, Tepig or Totodile in Kalos propertly, only in the safaris. There would be no contradiction there to begin with even ignoring this thought of logic introduced in the very first Legends game.


Yung Dramps said:
>They got Dragon Ball beam struggles now

Legends Z-A is making history as the first Pokemon game designed exclusively for Yung Dramps of smogon dot com
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Hey go wild, I'm very happy for you. Just like SV seemed tailor made to me including ridiculous small details. The bad part is that you will probably be left wanting for even more.
 
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