While this is technically true the leaks have been proven right multiple times with each official news from Nintendo just confirming more and more of the leakers credibility.
No. Just... No. A leak is an intentional disclosure of something secret or private. A trailer from the develope is not a leak. It's news.
Shutting down discussion about an unconfirmed feature is not at all "no one else can have nice things". Leaks are just that: unconfirmed. And I said it already but not everyone is interested in leaks or wants to be spoiled early.
Maybe? But that doesn't make them less unconfirmed. You can have the most reliable leaker and still not be 100% trustworthy. And unless it's from the mouth of the developers themselves, it's better not to take it as set in stone fact.
Oricorio and Komala were 2 mons that I was concerned about being in, because they both have clear reasons GF might be concerned about making them work mechanically. If they're in, then I'm much more confident that anything can be brought in, even if it's not an 'important' mon.
The first question is whether Gym Leader AI is good enough to Tera different mons in response to your team comp. Signs point to no, but it's always possible, and would open up more options. If, however, we accept as given that every gym leader has a pre-set Tera mon, then there's 3 basic uses:
This is looking great for me. I really like them trying new battle styles to see what happens. Raids were a mess, but I enjoyed totem battles a lot and the Legends:Arceus system was at least fun, if not quite balanced. The passive battle seems risky to implement, but the Titan battles should be good if GF have learned anything from their last few attempts.
Hm, I wouldn't call the Pokemon they Terastallize their ace because it's not their Type; I would rather a Gym Leader's ace be a Pokemon from that generation that's of their Type Specialty (and don't have to worry about their ace not matching because they don't have thier region's gimmick). Though it's kind of disappointing that is what they're going to have the Gym Leader do with Terastallize (or at least some of them). Like, okay, they can Terastallize a Pokemon which had a Type advantage over one of their weaknesses thus having a Pokemon of their Type Specialty with "coverage" (and I guess have access to the Super STAB of their Type Specialty). But in the end it's still their Type Specialty thus the Pokemon you have that's Super Effective against them is still Super Effective against their Terastallize. I was hoping for some clever tricks like, with the Grass Gym, they turn a Grass-type into a Rock-type. Or maybe program the AI to only do that if the opponent has a Super Effective Pokemon out, and if they don't just Terastallize their normal ace with it's primary Type so that it can get Hyper STAB.
Grusha would be best Terastallizing a Ground-type to being Ice as Ground hits Fire, Rock, & Steel SE. If there was any Ground-type I would try passing off as Ice-type, maybe Steelix? Though I have a feeling Brassius might just be a special case cause the joke of making Sudowoodo an actual Grass-type (along with a pun) is too alluring. So with that in mind, and that Grusha is missing a counter for Fighting-types, I say give him a Gliscor. He can shock us all by having a decently speedy Ice-type!
Yeah, both them pretty much showing the engine is a Pokemon (or at least possessing the engine) and not showing the Grass Gym Leader using what I would consider his ace (unless the Smoliv family IS his ace and just early game it makes more sense that Gym Leaders would have their Terastallize take center stage) is kind of strange. Like, Impidimp was a joke cause it was a troll, but I feel this engine Pokemon is going to be with every Team Star squad boss (whether it battles for them we'll see, can see it being a sort of quick mid-boss to keep the player on their toes before facing the squad boss). Then maybe if there's an overall leader for Team Star they would use one as their ace (or its evo or they'll Terastallize it or something).
there's also this fella they snuck in behind the player characters
I know everyone is making the joke but this is really giving me Megaman.EXE Fire Soul vibes (would post an image but it's not going through).
Since no where else to really talk about this, I'll mention it now.
So, yeah, technically the term doesn't have anything to do with fire. "But surely there must have been a better term to use"? In the sense of what the Pokemon Move does, certainly. However, consider the Gym Leader who this Move is likely the Signature Move of: Brassius, who seems to be an artist of some kind, possibly of the avant-garde variety. In other words, he's a trend-setter not a trend-follower; in other other words, a "trailblazer". Curious if it has an additional effect, apparently whatever it is GF considered makes sense enough that Sudowoodo can learn it despite being a Grass-type mimic.
What is its French name?
So it's like "Weed Wacker"? Now that sounds more like a Steel-type Move, hmm.
Was kind of hoping for another Switch Lite. The right thumbstick on my SwSh-themed Lite is acting wonky (sometimes when I tilt it up it won't have my character go up, its especially noticeable in L:A as my character begins sneaking instead of walking (though when I have them run its fine)).
That's how they ignore the trademark infringement.
The implication of the passing around the Champion Title has always been iffy:
Wouldn't be the first, essentially the story of the Shellos family.
No, we should still respect the people who want to discuss official info released about Scarlet & Violet but don't want to know about leaks. We shouldn't be talking about the games outside of this thread on other threads, thus this is the only thread we can discuss the games. All that is kingly being requested is that you use spoiler tags. Not sure if there's anywhere freely you can talk about the leaks, maybe somewhere on the Smogon Discord?
Or this, this will probably be for the best.
Either Greeta or there's an overall boss of Team Star which is a Type Specialist. I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, I kind of prefer if the "Champion" figure uses a wide variety of Types.
Flareon should have its Flare Blitz rights revoked on the account of it being Satan of Pokemon, as well as its other crimes like conspiring with the Dome Fossil, being a Discord Mod, and being the Eeveelution with the least inspired design. Literally just Eevee but “it gets bigger” and is cheeto colored.Hm, I wouldn't call the Pokemon they Terastallize their ace because it's not their Type; I would rather a Gym Leader's ace be a Pokemon from that generation that's of their Type Specialty (and don't have to worry about their ace not matching because they don't have thier region's gimmick). Though it's kind of disappointing that is what they're going to have the Gym Leader do with Terastallize (or at least some of them). Like, okay, they can Terastallize a Pokemon which had a Type advantage over one of their weaknesses thus having a Pokemon of their Type Specialty with "coverage" (and I guess have access to the Super STAB of their Type Specialty). But in the end it's still their Type Specialty thus the Pokemon you have that's Super Effective against them is still Super Effective against their Terastallize. I was hoping for some clever tricks like, with the Grass Gym, they turn a Grass-type into a Rock-type. Or maybe program the AI to only do that if the opponent has a Super Effective Pokemon out, and if they don't just Terastallize their normal ace with it's primary Type so that it can get Hyper STAB.
Though that does bring a question to mind: Since we see a Gym Leader using normal Terastallize, does that mean there's no Signature Terastallize? Or is this a "first few Gyms" situation just like how in SwSh they didn't have Milo or Nessa use Gigantamax? And before anyone mention the leaks, just want to point out before the new trailer dropped we talked about something from it and that didn't come into fruition, so I'm just sticking with official stuff.
Grusha would be best Terastallizing a Ground-type to being Ice as Ground hits Fire, Rock, & Steel SE. If there was any Ground-type I would try passing off as Ice-type, maybe Steelix? Though I have a feeling Brassius might just be a special case cause the joke of making Sudowoodo an actual Grass-type (along with a pun) is too alluring. So with that in mind, and that Grusha is missing a counter for Fighting-types, I say give him a Gliscor. He can shock us all by having a decently speedy Ice-type!
Yeah, both them pretty much showing the engine is a Pokemon (or at least possessing the engine) and not showing the Grass Gym Leader using what I would consider his ace (unless the Smoliv family IS his ace and just early game it makes more sense that Gym Leaders would have their Terastallize take center stage) is kind of strange. Like, Impidimp was a joke cause it was a troll, but I feel this engine Pokemon is going to be with every Team Star squad boss (whether it battles for them we'll see, can see it being a sort of quick mid-boss to keep the player on their toes before facing the squad boss). Then maybe if there's an overall leader for Team Star they would use one as their ace (or its evo or they'll Terastallize it or something).
I know everyone is making the joke but this is really giving me Megaman.EXE Fire Soul vibes (would post an image but it's not going through).
Since no where else to really talk about this, I'll mention it now.
When I hear the word "TrailBLAZE", Grass-type isn't exactly the first Type that comes to mind. BUT, to be fair, looking up the definition of Trailblaze (or rather Trailblazer):
So, yeah, technically the term doesn't have anything to do with fire. "But surely there must have been a better term to use"? In the sense of what the Pokemon Move does, certainly. However, consider the Gym Leader who this Move is likely the Signature Move of: Brassius, who seems to be an artist of some kind, possibly of the avant-garde variety. In other words, he's a trend-setter not a trend-follower; in other other words, a "trailblazer". Curious if it has an additional effect, apparently whatever it is GF considered makes sense enough that Sudowoodo can learn it despite being a Grass-type mimic.
What is its French name?
And wait, are we sure its Grass-type then? If it's a Freeze Dry clone that's SE on Grass-types, and it's being used by Sudowoodo, could it possibly then be Rock-type? Rock-type Freeze Dry that hits Grass SE makes more sense.
So it's like "Weed Wacker"? Now that sounds more like a Steel-type Move, hmm.
Was kind of hoping for another Switch Lite. The right thumbstick on my SwSh-themed Lite is acting wonky (sometimes when I tilt it up it won't have my character go up, its especially noticeable in L:A as my character begins sneaking instead of walking (though when I have them run its fine)).
That's how they ignore the trademark infringement.
Steel/Poison, maybe. But Levitate? Probably not. Assuming its an engine-based Pokemon, Abilities I'm seeing for it would be the likes of Flare Boost & Speed Boost; maybe Filter.
The implication of the passing around the Champion Title has always been iffy:
Indigo League: You beat the current Champion you get the Champion title. Though it seems like Blue was given the title as soon as he defeated the Elite Four so either Kanto never had a Champion at that point (which I don't know why Lance wouldn't then become de facto Champion and they looked for a new Elite Four member) or the recent Champion had retired leaving the position vacant. Though, even though Red became Champion after beating Blue, when you re-challenge the League Blue says he's Champion again even though he never had to defeat Red. In addition I don't think Lance defeats either Red or Blue to become Champion during Gen II, both seem to abandon the position which Lance finally decides to swoop in and claim as his own (until the player defeats him in which case they become Champion).
Hoenn & Sinnoh League: Steven, Wallace, and Cynthia seem to retain the Champion title in their gen games even after you defeat them. It's not until ORAS where the even hint at the Champion title passing along, in those games Steven loses the Champion title which is reflected in his rematch dialogue and Zinnia mocking him for being the ex-Champion. But it's because of this (and Alder still being the final challenge of the Elite Four despite not being the Champion) I came up with the theory that there's two kinds of Champions: League Champion (which is essentially is a job position) and Champion Title Holder (any who defeats the League Champion gets a title but don't become League Champion until the current one decides to retire).
Unova League: BW1 we have Alder who didn't win the Champion title but rather was given it, a strange circumstance they never go into. But Alder is defeated by N who seemingly takes the title, then N is defeated by the player... and then when you go to have your match against Alder he oddly still refers to himself as the strongest Trainer in Unova even though N defeated him (though I guess N did leave) but you defeated N. Once again, you seemingly get a Champion title, but Alder holds the League Champion job position... until he decides to retire, and with BW1 protag gone to look for N, works with Drayden to achieve Iris's request of wanting to become Champion officially passing the position down to her. And once she keeps the position as League Champion (her rematch dialogue even saying she's still Champion) even though you defeated her.
ON TOP OF THAT, BW2 has the Pokemon World Tournament which Red, Blue, Lance, Steven, Wallace, Cynthia, & Alder all participating holding Champion titles, which I think is the first ever confirmation of multiple trainers from the same region holding title as Champion. Of course doesn't go into any details, though an interesting factoid is that Iris doesn't participate in the PWT cause she has the job of being Unova's League Champion (guess Lance, Wallace, & Cynthia was able to put in vacation time or they had retired being League Champion?).
Kalos League: While in her rematches she no longer refers to herself as Champion, when you battle her in the Battle Chateau she does (and you only can battle her there once you beat the Pokemon League).
Alola League: So, those who completed the Island Challenge are given the title Island Challenge Champion, many whom you meet at the League cause Kukui invited many of them (and I'm guessing the Kahuna and Captains all have also passed their Island Challenge thus are Island Challenge Champions before the creation of the Alola League). Whether they call count as Champion Title Holders is up-to-debate, the first official Alola Champion is the player character (and the game doesn't treat the player losing as canon so by the end of Gen VII there's still been only one Alola Champion).
Galar League: Galar strictly follows the rules of "you become Champion after defeating the Champion". When you beat Leon you become Galar's Champion and accepting challenges as Leon "retires" to running the Battle Tower and then organizing the Galarian Star Tournament. In addition, in the past Opal was Champion and then lost the title to Mustard who then acted as League Champion until he quit. So Galar played it very straight.
Which leads us to the Victory Road story of the Treasure Hunt revealing that there doesn't seem to be a singular Champion but rather if you can beat the Pokemon League you get a "Champion Title" (sorta like my theory). I'll go more into that thought when I talk about Greeta.
Wouldn't be the first, essentially the story of the Shellos family.
No, we should still respect the people who want to discuss official info released about Scarlet & Violet but don't want to know about leaks. We shouldn't be talking about the games outside of this thread on other threads, thus this is the only thread we can discuss the games. All that is kingly being requested is that you use spoiler tags. Not sure if there's anywhere freely you can talk about the leaks, maybe somewhere on the Smogon Discord?
Or this, this will probably be for the best.
"Yeah, just, wonderful, for Special Fire-type Pokemon..."
Either Greeta or there's an overall boss of Team Star which is a Type Specialist. I'm kind of leaning toward the latter, I kind of prefer if the "Champion" figure uses a wide variety of Types.
Giving my own two cents on this but you do realize that people not wanting to go into the game blind does not necessarily equal that they want to know everything about the game, right? You try to argue that people following official news don't care about spoilers, but what all is revealed is significantly less content than the stuff that gets leaked given leaks usually cover almost the whole dex. There is no need to treat "person who wants to know absolutely nothing" and "person who wants to know everything possible" as the only existing options as if there is no middle ground. I've personally been in touch with the leaks and one of my main takeaways from it is that people who are going in blind are going to have a blast with some of the ideas they are pulling off just out of how unexpected some stuff is. Trailers handpick information so that there is still surprises left to be had in the game aa opposed to leaks giving you direct info about everything.
I think that the most lore-friendly solution is to make Baile Style Oricorio the only form available in the wild and have a shop or merchant sell the four nectar items so that the rest of the forms can be obtained. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if they just made all four available in different parts of the map. In any case, I'm just glad to see Oricorio return as it's among my favorite Gen 7 Pokémon.
Well, it was super effective against Quaxly, and it had a pretty "grassy" animation, so safe to say it's almost certainly Grass-type. The name does make me think it would be Ground (Bulldoze, Rototiller) or Rock (big Hiker & mountain energy).
Wow a Crab Pokemon looks like a Crab.
I have to reiterate that "désherber" is french for the verb to weed, like plucking weeds out of the ground. "Slapping with weeds" isn't an accurate translation of the french name at all; it's more like "weeding slap", which has a totally opposite connotation and expressivelly make it sound anti-grass.
Everything revealed today has been previously clearly mentioned by the leakers, including the unannounced but shown engine Pokémon. It seems like you haven't been paying attention to leaks, because if you have then you'd know the leaks have been established as credible for weeks now.
I stand corrected. What do the other localizations have to offer? I see Bulbapedia doesn't even have many up atm. Not even Japanese. If we get more I'm sure the picture will become clearer.
I do stay up to date with leaks. I don't mind the spoilers. But I understand others do and they don't want major spoilers which leaks entail. Some people want to experience games the way the devs intended it. It's really not a big deal if you can't discuss leaks here.
Gonna be real, but these sorts of remarks don't help your point and just come off as comically petty. It doesn't matter what the game is. Respect other people in the forum yeah? It's not that hard to find a place where people don't mind being spoiled and talking there.
Always. Datamined information and shops breaking store dates are leaks we can have 100% certainty on. No matter how many times Ku or Kaka say stuff, anything there is subject to change, if its true to begin with. and even then, major warnings from the mods were given out beforehand. Its been several gens people, you know the drill by now.
I mean to be fair, a Freeze Dry can be of the same type as what it hits SE. There's no rule against it lmao. Just that we only ever had one Freeze Dry before.
For the longest time, I had always treated Magmortar as just objectively having Searing Shot. I knew very well that it could never learn the move by any means, but then what was it going to shoot out of its arms, Flame Burst? Not only that, but exclusive moves tend to get taught to other Pokémon one or two generations later (notable examples include Darkest Lariat Zarude and Mystical Fire on a bunch of Fairy-types), so there might be hope for the future...?
