Water Shruiken is now a Special move, according to stellar and another source.
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Demo Discussion
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The stats that user TheMantyke gave to us: 105/96/60/101/63/126 (Hardy, IV: 20/31/20/31/20/31 EV: 128Atk 128SpA 252Spe) are likely fixed. I was curious about this so I asked AuzBat on PS what the stats the Greninja has & they were the exact same.
Using the Hardy, IV & EV spread, I may have figured out the base stats for Ash-Greninja!
I never thought I'd question if I want to spoil a demo of all things for myself. I really hope it releases by midnight in America because I kind of want to play through it fresh and read all the data mine stuff afterwards, but I might just cave and wash a live stream.
EDIT: Nevermind, guess this answers my questions. Live stream it is (Demo is releasing 10 AM EST in NA) https://twitter.com/NinWire/status/788193049281228801
EDIT: Nevermind, guess this answers my questions. Live stream it is (Demo is releasing 10 AM EST in NA) https://twitter.com/NinWire/status/788193049281228801
Man I wish I have a capture card...
Holy moly that's crazy.The stats that user TheMantyke gave to us: 105/96/60/101/63/126 (Hardy, IV: 20/31/20/31/20/31 EV: 128Atk 128SpA 252Spe) are likely fixed. I was curious about this so I asked AuzBat on PS what the stats the Greninja has & they were the exact same.
Using the Hardy, IV & EV spread, I may have figured out the base stats for Ash-Greninja!
:O Hakamo-o gets Automize confirmed...
You all better freaking hide yo mons...
You all better freaking hide yo mons...
Before Battle Bond: 72/95/67/103/71/122
After Battle Bond: 72/145/67/153/71/132
+50 Attack
+50 SpAtk
+10 Speed
I may have messed up in the calcs because I'm kinda sleepy but who cares?!!
Good Night fellas!! Wake me up once the demo is released in America!
In Australia, downloading now.
... She says, desperately trying to not explode.
... She says, desperately trying to not explode.
... with no Mega Stone. And it's actually stronger than Protean Greninja (IIRC Protean was like giving it a ~140 SpA stat for non-STAB moves)
I'm terrified now.
I already got Greninja and it has a Hardy nature, i think it has a fixed nature.
Just imagine if we can just get a decent nature on this thing; it'll be a MiniMega-Ray. That's two guaranteed Ubers Starters from here on out.
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Aegislash-Shield: 109-129 (33.6 - 39.8%) -- 20.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Battle Bond Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Aegislash-Shield: 142-169 (43.8 - 52.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Life Orb Protean Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 390-460 (107.1 - 126.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Life Orb Battle Bond Greninja Gunk Shot vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 372-439 (102.1 - 120.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Everything that doesn't get STAB will be sligthly less powerful than Protean Greninja, and everything that does get STAB... this gen is going to be fun
Won't work. They won't release it until the official time. It's not just locked from the eShop.
and I hope Blaziken is OU.
jk they need to stay in Ubers send regards to M-Lucario whom I hope they nerfed, maybe buff all the starters (like Infernape) you goons at gamefreak. :[ That being said, Z Moves seem to be really strong, from a 95 BP T-Bolt to 175...sounds like it adds a +80 to a move, sounds really insane but for a one time move it sounds just like a solid wall breaking tool, but Pokemon like Kyurem-B getting it...dear god.
Anyone got to see what is the boost that Battle Bond gives to Water Shuriken? Depending on what it is, we might have to toss away those Hydro Pump calculations...
That's disappointing. And from what I've seen of the demo so far it doesn't look like Oricorio is in it. RIP
