Receiver takes over the Ability before the faint process finishes. I actually added it to the Gen 7 to-do list a week or two after the games came out.
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Can anyone confirm some Stakeout mechanics? It looks like in the OP that everything isn't totally clear. In a situation where a Pokémon faints and a replacement is sent in, Stakeout does not activate, correct? It only activates when the target is switching? And it is currently unknown if U-turn, Volt Switch, etc. activate Stakeout?
Thank you to whomever can answer!
Thank you to whomever can answer!
IIRC, pivoting moves also activate Stakeout, because they're switching out afterwards
re: (hacked) arceus queries. Most of these are relevant to the BH meta and I just wanted to confirm since it will affect that it
- I wanted to confirm whether Arceus shows that it is Normal type in-game when it has the form of any of its types. It's pretty difficult to find a source on the internet (i was only able to find this, and there the normal type is not visible). From this same link and other feedback, the in-battle display shows only the true type effectiveness on the Arceus regardless of the visible type. This is a pretty significant difference than just displaying its Normal type openly
- Assuming the current mechanics are correct, earlier in this thread, it said that the Imposter takes on the type of an Arceus' visible form and not the true type it has with Multitype and a Plate. I wanted to confirm if this is the correct behavior for a hacked arceus as well i.e. a (normal type) Arceus with a different ability than Multitype and a different item displaying that it is Grass type means its Imposter is grass type (as seen in this replay, Turn 37)
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Actual in-game footage of the "Arceus bluff":
Cosmetically, this is Arceus-Dark, and I even left the Dread Plate on so as not to mess with too many variables for this test. However, Protean is not Multitype, so on the summary screen from clicking its minisprite you can see that it doesn't get credit for Dark typing. (If you have an Arceus or Silvally with Protean, the ability does not even pop up an announcement when you use moves, no matter what type those moves are.)
Eventually a Ditto transforms into the bluffed Arceus, either by regular old Transform or by Imposter--it doesn't matter which. You can't see your opponent's ability or item from clicking their minisprite, but you can see their type, and despite Ditto copying the Arceus-Dark appearance, it's still a regular old normal type.
The move selection screen doesn't buy the fake either. Karate Chop would be SE against both Normal and Dark, but if it really thought the opponent was Dark, Fell Stinger would show up as super effective too. It doesn't.
Cosmetically, this is Arceus-Dark, and I even left the Dread Plate on so as not to mess with too many variables for this test. However, Protean is not Multitype, so on the summary screen from clicking its minisprite you can see that it doesn't get credit for Dark typing. (If you have an Arceus or Silvally with Protean, the ability does not even pop up an announcement when you use moves, no matter what type those moves are.)
Eventually a Ditto transforms into the bluffed Arceus, either by regular old Transform or by Imposter--it doesn't matter which. You can't see your opponent's ability or item from clicking their minisprite, but you can see their type, and despite Ditto copying the Arceus-Dark appearance, it's still a regular old normal type.
The move selection screen doesn't buy the fake either. Karate Chop would be SE against both Normal and Dark, but if it really thought the opponent was Dark, Fell Stinger would show up as super effective too. It doesn't.
Thanks for verifying.
Just to confirm, does this make the behavior in the above replay not the correct one (tldr Spectral Thief was able to affect Chansey impostered as Arceus-Grass as it is Grass-type)Eventually a Ditto transforms into the bluffed Arceus, either by regular old Transform or by Imposter--it doesn't matter which. You can't see your opponent's ability or item from clicking their minisprite, but you can see their type, and despite Ditto copying the Arceus-Dark appearance, it's still a regular old normal type.
The move selection screen doesn't buy the fake either. Karate Chop would be SE against both Normal and Dark, but if it really thought the opponent was Dark, Fell Stinger would show up as super effective too. It doesn't.
No. This sort of thing doesn't belong in this thread as well.
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my apologies then.
I managed to get some readings on Gyro Ball at both ends of the speed spectrum, and in both cases there are implementation details the sim doesn't get right for now.
In the first battle, we attempt to get some very fast Pokemon. I have it saved as a battle video at my end, but each save file has a limit of 10 battle videos uploaded to the public at once; I don't want to take any of the existing ones down so it doesn't have a code yet. However, DaWoblefet was also in on the test and captured an actual video, which is what's at the link.
There's a long-standing anecdote about the phenomenon "If a Pokemon has at least 1809 speed, it can continue to outspeed slower things even when Trick Room is up." But what's really going on with speed and turn order that gives rise to that behavior is a more fundamental series of steps:
1. Start with the original speed stat
2. Apply all stat modifiers and other effects (such as Swift Swim or Tailwind)
3. If the speed is greater than 10000, set it to 10000
4. If Trick Room is in effect, replace speed with (10000 - speed)
5. If the speed is 8192 or higher, subtract 8192 (a truncation to 13 bits of precision)
After turn 4, Swoobat (which is max-speed Jolly) has 213 attack, and a starting speed of 359 at +5 with Tailwind up, for a total of 2512. Ditto, meanwhile, came in under a Tailwind of its own with +6 Speed (as well as +1 Defense) on a Baton Pass, and was immediately given a 504 as the "step 1 speed" from Speed Swap, Surge Surfer as its ability from Skill Swap, and a Quick Powder from Trick, so it has 198 defense, and a speed stat of 16128--the highest "speed" it's possible for any Pokemon to reach under current rules. Of course, that's so fast that it hits the cap of 10000, which then gets truncated to 1808 for the purpose of effective turn order, so on turn 5 Swoobat will actually be able to act before Ditto can transform, and that action is a Gyro Ball.
The question here was "at what point in that series of speed steps does Gyro Ball draw the speed it plugs into the formula?" If Gyro Ball used the full step-2 speed of 16128, then Swoobat's Gyro Ball would hit for the maximum of 150 power; if it drew from the step-3 speed (after it's been capped out at 10000), then Gyro Ball would be 99 power; or if it drew from the final effective turn-order speed (1808 in this case) then Gyro Ball would be 17 power. Luckily, these figures are far enough apart that they have no overlap between them:
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 116-137 (38.6 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (99 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 77-91 (25.6 - 30.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (17 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 14-17 (4.6 - 5.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
As it turns out, the move from the actual battle dealt 85 damage, which confirms case 2: Gyro Ball does not consider a Pokemon's speed until after it has been subject to the hard cap of 10000. Simulator behavior in this case shows that it's considering the entire 16128, which is now known to be incorrect.
By contrast, the second battle is about getting a very slow Pokemon. Level 39 is as high as Shuckle can go while allowing its speed on a 0- nature to stay as low as 7, and 7 is as high as it can start out in order to round down to 1 at -6. Then on top of that, Shuckle holds an Iron Ball to cut its speed even further, and it has nowhere left to round down but 0. Trivially, if you have 0 speed then your opponent is obviously "at least 6 times as fast as you are", which is colloquially what it takes to get max power out of Gyro Ball, but the game expresses that condition in a particular way, and the game also really doesn't like dividing by 0, which is what that formula would task it with doing.
The first few Gyro Balls in the video hit for just 1/2/4 damage depending on the type matchup. But then a level 1 Chimchar, who resists the attack, switches in and takes more damage than I originally expected, and it turns out the explanation is pretty simple after all: If a Pokemon uses Gyro Ball when its own speed rounds down to 0, the move is automatically set to 1 base power, no matter what the opponent's speed is--even if that's also 0.The rest of the battle is all about testing various permutations of critical hit and Life Orb with the type matchups, but it's all consistent with "the move is always 1 power", with the blatant except that when Stantler comes in for the second time, Ditto has lost its Iron Ball and hasn't been paralyzed yet, so on that turn it has 1 speed and the Gyro Ball is 150 power, in a damage range to be expected for that. The final hit, where the L100 Ditto comes in and transforms into Shuckle for its own "0 speed vs. 0 speed" test, dealt 16 damage, more than the first Shuckle vs. Ditto hit did because of level superiority and how that plays into the damage formula.
The simulator test for this case reveals that Gyro Ball seems to default to 1 power in the 0 speed vs. 0 speed case, but 0 speed vs. anything greater than 0 is taken as a 150 power move.
I don't have video footage for it, but one more observation is easy enough to set up in-game using a wild Ditto: If you use Electro Ball against a target with 0 speed, no matter what your own speed is, the move hits at the lowest possible power level of 40, rather than the highest level of 150. One more case where it seems to be saying "I hate trying to divide by 0, so I'll just default to the low end of the power range instead."
In the first battle, we attempt to get some very fast Pokemon. I have it saved as a battle video at my end, but each save file has a limit of 10 battle videos uploaded to the public at once; I don't want to take any of the existing ones down so it doesn't have a code yet. However, DaWoblefet was also in on the test and captured an actual video, which is what's at the link.
There's a long-standing anecdote about the phenomenon "If a Pokemon has at least 1809 speed, it can continue to outspeed slower things even when Trick Room is up." But what's really going on with speed and turn order that gives rise to that behavior is a more fundamental series of steps:
1. Start with the original speed stat
2. Apply all stat modifiers and other effects (such as Swift Swim or Tailwind)
3. If the speed is greater than 10000, set it to 10000
4. If Trick Room is in effect, replace speed with (10000 - speed)
5. If the speed is 8192 or higher, subtract 8192 (a truncation to 13 bits of precision)
After turn 4, Swoobat (which is max-speed Jolly) has 213 attack, and a starting speed of 359 at +5 with Tailwind up, for a total of 2512. Ditto, meanwhile, came in under a Tailwind of its own with +6 Speed (as well as +1 Defense) on a Baton Pass, and was immediately given a 504 as the "step 1 speed" from Speed Swap, Surge Surfer as its ability from Skill Swap, and a Quick Powder from Trick, so it has 198 defense, and a speed stat of 16128--the highest "speed" it's possible for any Pokemon to reach under current rules. Of course, that's so fast that it hits the cap of 10000, which then gets truncated to 1808 for the purpose of effective turn order, so on turn 5 Swoobat will actually be able to act before Ditto can transform, and that action is a Gyro Ball.
The question here was "at what point in that series of speed steps does Gyro Ball draw the speed it plugs into the formula?" If Gyro Ball used the full step-2 speed of 16128, then Swoobat's Gyro Ball would hit for the maximum of 150 power; if it drew from the step-3 speed (after it's been capped out at 10000), then Gyro Ball would be 99 power; or if it drew from the final effective turn-order speed (1808 in this case) then Gyro Ball would be 17 power. Luckily, these figures are far enough apart that they have no overlap between them:
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 116-137 (38.6 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (99 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 77-91 (25.6 - 30.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 Atk Swoobat Gyro Ball (17 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Ditto: 14-17 (4.6 - 5.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
As it turns out, the move from the actual battle dealt 85 damage, which confirms case 2: Gyro Ball does not consider a Pokemon's speed until after it has been subject to the hard cap of 10000. Simulator behavior in this case shows that it's considering the entire 16128, which is now known to be incorrect.
By contrast, the second battle is about getting a very slow Pokemon. Level 39 is as high as Shuckle can go while allowing its speed on a 0- nature to stay as low as 7, and 7 is as high as it can start out in order to round down to 1 at -6. Then on top of that, Shuckle holds an Iron Ball to cut its speed even further, and it has nowhere left to round down but 0. Trivially, if you have 0 speed then your opponent is obviously "at least 6 times as fast as you are", which is colloquially what it takes to get max power out of Gyro Ball, but the game expresses that condition in a particular way, and the game also really doesn't like dividing by 0, which is what that formula would task it with doing.
The first few Gyro Balls in the video hit for just 1/2/4 damage depending on the type matchup. But then a level 1 Chimchar, who resists the attack, switches in and takes more damage than I originally expected, and it turns out the explanation is pretty simple after all: If a Pokemon uses Gyro Ball when its own speed rounds down to 0, the move is automatically set to 1 base power, no matter what the opponent's speed is--even if that's also 0.The rest of the battle is all about testing various permutations of critical hit and Life Orb with the type matchups, but it's all consistent with "the move is always 1 power", with the blatant except that when Stantler comes in for the second time, Ditto has lost its Iron Ball and hasn't been paralyzed yet, so on that turn it has 1 speed and the Gyro Ball is 150 power, in a damage range to be expected for that. The final hit, where the L100 Ditto comes in and transforms into Shuckle for its own "0 speed vs. 0 speed" test, dealt 16 damage, more than the first Shuckle vs. Ditto hit did because of level superiority and how that plays into the damage formula.
The simulator test for this case reveals that Gyro Ball seems to default to 1 power in the 0 speed vs. 0 speed case, but 0 speed vs. anything greater than 0 is taken as a 150 power move.
I don't have video footage for it, but one more observation is easy enough to set up in-game using a wild Ditto: If you use Electro Ball against a target with 0 speed, no matter what your own speed is, the move hits at the lowest possible power level of 40, rather than the highest level of 150. One more case where it seems to be saying "I hate trying to divide by 0, so I'll just default to the low end of the power range instead."
So DragonWhale mentioned to me a little while ago that Shell Trap fails when the physical hit was Sheer Force boosted, and while I was thinking of how to implement this on PS I wondered if it completely canceled the effect or merely delayed it.
As I was testing it I saw that yes, a Sheer Force boosted move just didn't count as a hit, and getting hit after during the same turn still triggered Shell Trap. However, I accidentally "discovered" something Doubles players might know already. Shell Trap triggers immediately after being hit by an opposing physical attack, even if there are other Pokemon still left to move, and then your turn is over and you won't move again at -3 priority later. This is Pursuit-tier abnormal behaviour! Up to you whether you consider this good or bad for Shell Trap as a whole.
As I was testing it I saw that yes, a Sheer Force boosted move just didn't count as a hit, and getting hit after during the same turn still triggered Shell Trap. However, I accidentally "discovered" something Doubles players might know already. Shell Trap triggers immediately after being hit by an opposing physical attack, even if there are other Pokemon still left to move, and then your turn is over and you won't move again at -3 priority later. This is Pursuit-tier abnormal behaviour! Up to you whether you consider this good or bad for Shell Trap as a whole.
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https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7balancedhackmons-791639416
does transformed arceus not change type
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7balancedhackmons-791639416
does transformed arceus not change type
In my ongoing effort to write accurate descriptions of everything in every gen, I've done some more testing on Electro Ball and Gyro Ball in other gens to supplement SadisticMystic and DaWoblefet's Gen 7 tests above.
Turns out the power calculation for both changed in Gen 6, because before that their solution to dividing by 0 was to divide by 1 instead.
Here are my notes:
Gen 6-7 descriptions
Gen 4-5 descriptions
Turns out the power calculation for both changed in Gen 6, because before that their solution to dividing by 0 was to divide by 1 instead.
Here are my notes:
Gen 4:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 150 power
Gen 5:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 150 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 26 power
Gen 6:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 1 speed -> 26 power
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 150 power
Gen 5:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 150 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 26 power
Gen 6:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 1 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 1 power
user 1 speed vs target 1 speed -> 26 power
Gen 5:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 60 power
user 7 speed vs target 0 speed -> 150 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 40 power
Gen 6:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 7 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 60 power
user 7 speed vs target 0 speed -> 150 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 40 power
Gen 6:
user 0 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 1 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 7 speed vs target 0 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 438 speed -> 40 power
user 0 speed vs target 1 speed -> 40 power
Power is equal to (25 * target's current Speed / user's current Speed) + 1, rounded down, but not more than 150. If the user's current Speed is 0, this move's power is 1.
The power of this move depends on (user's current Speed / target's current Speed), rounded down. Power is equal to 150 if the result is 4 or more, 120 if 3, 80 if 2, 60 if 1, 40 if less than 1. If the target's current Speed is 0, this move's power is 40.
Power is equal to (25 * target's current Speed / user's current Speed) + 1, rounded down, but not more than 150. If the user's current Speed is 0, it is treated as 1 instead.
The power of this move depends on (user's current Speed / target's current Speed), rounded down. Power is equal to 150 if the result is 4 or more, 120 if 3, 80 if 2, 60 if 1, 40 if less than 1. If the target's current Speed is 0, it is treated as 1 instead.
The damage cap is 721,898,992 20,660,732,484 2,009,741,660 343,597,200 1,048,575 a mere 65,535. Furthermore, dealing 0 damage is still possible in current generations, not even considering the trivial cases of False Swipe vs. a Pokemon that already has just 1 HP left, or breaking Mimikyu's disguise or Shedinja's Focus Sash.
As part of my ongoing investigation into overflowing registers during damage calculation, the first result I ever came across to "confirm" that mechanic was a 74-damage hit that was naively supposed to calculate as about 10 million. It certainly proved something fishy was going on, but not in the way that my model expected: I had the post-rollover damage range pegged as 170-201, so this figure was too low even by that standard. A closer examination of the unusual attack combination involved in that test revealed that it didn't actually work the way I was expecting, but in that case the damage range shouldn't be 170-201...it should have been around 800-900 thousand, and the mystery of 74 was now only further away. In looking over the numbers to try to explain what could possibly cause that hit, I found a possible cause which both 1) indicated that that first test was only confirmed due to an extreme stroke of luck (getting a 1/16 damage roll where any of the other 15 rolls would have been a clean KO, and I never would have suspected a thing about this particular corollary) and 2) moved the damage cap lower and easier to reach than ever.
Here's the battle video demonstration on USUM: UJ8W-WWWW-WWWS-9YPA (you can skip ahead to turn 14 if you want). The idea was to set it up so that Lucario could take potshots at a Sturdy Aron for up to 32 consecutive turns, starting with turn 2. Obviously since it's Sturdy, these hits are supposed to go for about 55,000-65,000 damage, but leave Aron with 1 HP instead, and it recovers back to full in time for next turn. However, if (and only if) Lucario rolls the max roll, the damage is slated to be exactly 65,536. On the turn where that roll finally comes, Aron takes the hit, super effectively...but nothing happens. Aura Sphere is suddenly the new Splash!
What's actually going on here is an undisclosed final step, taking place after everything in the site's own reckoning of the damage formula. In-game HP values never take more than 2 bytes to store (in fact, 10 bits, but they might as well split on whole-byte boundaries so rounding up to 16 bits just makes sense), and 2 bytes are all that's allocated to them. So as not to create a type mismatch when it comes to trying to subtract numbers, and also not writing willy-nilly into a region of memory that controls something other than HP, the game's solution is to truncate the damage figure all the way down to 16 bits at the very end, just before it can be applied.
Back in BW, as the aforementioned damage account draws from, the "make sure minimum damage is always at least 1" check still had a few multipliers that could kick in after it, including Reflect and Multiscale. Those have since been "fixed" in current games so that damage will always be at least 1 even in spite of their presence, but there's still one vector left. With this 16-bit truncation mechanic, a 64,880-damage hit (as would be the case from the 99% roll) remains 64,880, but the top roll of 65,536 truncates to exactly 0 damage. And based on the fact that in this battle, that hit is allowed to remain at 0, we can prove that the truncation happens after the minimum-of-1 step.
"Aura Sphere is the new Splash"...really has a nice ring to it, come to think of it. A ring that looks suspiciously like the number 0, I might add.
As part of my ongoing investigation into overflowing registers during damage calculation, the first result I ever came across to "confirm" that mechanic was a 74-damage hit that was naively supposed to calculate as about 10 million. It certainly proved something fishy was going on, but not in the way that my model expected: I had the post-rollover damage range pegged as 170-201, so this figure was too low even by that standard. A closer examination of the unusual attack combination involved in that test revealed that it didn't actually work the way I was expecting, but in that case the damage range shouldn't be 170-201...it should have been around 800-900 thousand, and the mystery of 74 was now only further away. In looking over the numbers to try to explain what could possibly cause that hit, I found a possible cause which both 1) indicated that that first test was only confirmed due to an extreme stroke of luck (getting a 1/16 damage roll where any of the other 15 rolls would have been a clean KO, and I never would have suspected a thing about this particular corollary) and 2) moved the damage cap lower and easier to reach than ever.
Here's the battle video demonstration on USUM: UJ8W-WWWW-WWWS-9YPA (you can skip ahead to turn 14 if you want). The idea was to set it up so that Lucario could take potshots at a Sturdy Aron for up to 32 consecutive turns, starting with turn 2. Obviously since it's Sturdy, these hits are supposed to go for about 55,000-65,000 damage, but leave Aron with 1 HP instead, and it recovers back to full in time for next turn. However, if (and only if) Lucario rolls the max roll, the damage is slated to be exactly 65,536. On the turn where that roll finally comes, Aron takes the hit, super effectively...but nothing happens. Aura Sphere is suddenly the new Splash!
What's actually going on here is an undisclosed final step, taking place after everything in the site's own reckoning of the damage formula. In-game HP values never take more than 2 bytes to store (in fact, 10 bits, but they might as well split on whole-byte boundaries so rounding up to 16 bits just makes sense), and 2 bytes are all that's allocated to them. So as not to create a type mismatch when it comes to trying to subtract numbers, and also not writing willy-nilly into a region of memory that controls something other than HP, the game's solution is to truncate the damage figure all the way down to 16 bits at the very end, just before it can be applied.
Back in BW, as the aforementioned damage account draws from, the "make sure minimum damage is always at least 1" check still had a few multipliers that could kick in after it, including Reflect and Multiscale. Those have since been "fixed" in current games so that damage will always be at least 1 even in spite of their presence, but there's still one vector left. With this 16-bit truncation mechanic, a 64,880-damage hit (as would be the case from the 99% roll) remains 64,880, but the top roll of 65,536 truncates to exactly 0 damage. And based on the fact that in this battle, that hit is allowed to remain at 0, we can prove that the truncation happens after the minimum-of-1 step.
"Aura Sphere is the new Splash"...really has a nice ring to it, come to think of it. A ring that looks suspiciously like the number 0, I might add.
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It's kinda funny to end up realizing it was actually much simpler with a mod 65536 operation to the damage amount.
But then again, it makes sense. Why would they bother using more bits for damage when not even Blissey reaches at least 1000 HP? After all, it took a glitch to notice the modulo operator.
It's a mod-65536 in addition to all the 4-byte chokepoints that have been documented. Otherwise in the Growlithe test, there would still have been a roll for 10 damage, but no roll that could deal exactly 9.
There's one other chokepoint that I could conceivably prove the existence of, but in light of this 65536 rollover, doing so would require a setup in which one of the damage rolls was set to be exactly 1,048,576. Constructing such a thing could require factoring up to 800 different numbers in search of the nicest one.
There's one other chokepoint that I could conceivably prove the existence of, but in light of this 65536 rollover, doing so would require a setup in which one of the damage rolls was set to be exactly 1,048,576. Constructing such a thing could require factoring up to 800 different numbers in search of the nicest one.
SadisticMystic Something I just thought of and don't remember being discussed; does metronome (item) get effected by this glitch too? Namely if Metronome already have its 2X boost, you use the glitch, then Rollout again, does the multiplier stay or reset?
Setting up Rollout storage just to use Rollout again immediately doesn't really exhibit much in the way of abnormal behavior, it just corrects the dangling multiplier by counting as the "real" last turn of Rollout, complete with a Metronome-6 boost, then it stops and you're free to pick any move next turn without being locked in.
If you switch to another move that isn't Rollout, then that only counts as turn 1 from Metronome's perspective and you get no boost from that item.
If you switch to another move that isn't Rollout, then that only counts as turn 1 from Metronome's perspective and you get no boost from that item.
Emergency exit doesn't always work. For example, attacks that have been powered up by sheer force cannot activate emergency exit. Such attacks also do a bunch of other interesting things, like prevent life orb recoil.
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Emergency_Exit_(Ability)
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sheer_Force_(Ability)
I don't know the answer to your second question, though.
If Golisopod has more than 50% health when it switches in, but something like Stealth Rock immediately takes away enough health to cross the 50% boundary, it will pop up Emergency Exit and force another switch (unless it's the last mon, of course). If it already has less than 50% when it comes in, Emergency Exit can't pop up, no matter if it takes hazard damage on top of that, unless it goes back up over 50% health first (using something like Leech Life, probably) and then crosses that level again in the downward direction.
Breakneck Blitz is not subject to any type-changing effects, and remains Normal. In the case of something like Z-Weather Ball, it'll say "Breakneck Blitz turned into Inferno Overdrive due to the weather" and have you use Inferno Overdrive instead, but Z-Hidden Power neither attempts to change the type of Breakneck Blitz nor to replace it wholesale with a different Z-move.
I did some research on entry hazards (some of this may overlap with previously known information):
- The order that entry hazards are set up determines the order that entry hazards are applied on switch-in. For example, if I set up Sticky Web, then Stealth Rock, then Toxic Spikes, then Spikes, on switch-in, my Pokemon would first receive lowered Speed, then take rocks damage, then become poisoned, then finally take Spikes damage.
- If hazards are removed via Defog or Rapid Spin, the order that entry hazards are applied is reset.
- Removing Toxic Spikes via a grounded Poison-type will remove Toxic Spikes from the lineup of entry hazards, but order will be preserved otherwise. Setting Toxic Spikes again will cause it to move to the "back of the line", so to speak. (e.g. if Rocks -> Toxic Spikes -> Spikes are set up, then TSpikes are absorbed, setting TSpikes again will make the order of entry hazards Rocks -> Spikes -> Toxic Spikes)
- Setting multiple layers of Spikes or Toxic Spikes does NOT change the order that Spikes or Toxic Spikes apply; only the first Spikes or Toxic Spikes is considered for the order.
- Targeting an ally with Defog in Doubles will only remove entry hazards from your side of the field, but will not remove hazards from the opponent's side.
- If multiple entry hazards are present, it is possible to interrupt their effects if an outside Ability or Item's condition is met. For example:
- Golisopod switches in on Stealth Rock + Spikes. Stealth Rock puts it under 50%, triggering Emergency Exit. Golisopod switches out and does not take Spikes damage.
- A Pokemon with Lum Berry switches in on Toxic Spikes + Stealth Rock. Toxic Spikes activates, and the Pokemon's Lum Berry is triggered before Stealth Rock activates.
- A Pokemon with a super Sitrus Berry (e.g. Figy, Mago) switches in on Stealth Rock + 3 layers of Spikes. Stealth Rock puts the Pokemon at 10%, then the super Sitrus Berry activates, giving the Pokemon +50% HP. Finally, the Spikes damage is applied.
- Entry hazards leak Speed tier information, and they leak it in the same bracket as entrance Ability activations. That is, if two Pokemon switch in and will take Stealth Rock damage (say, after a double KO), the Pokemon that takes Stealth Rock damage first is the faster Pokemon. This behavior is exactly like if you have a Landorus and Tapu Lele; whichever of Intimidate or Psychic Surge activates first reveals who is faster between Landorus and Tapu Lele.
- There is no priority between which entry hazard will activate first; any hazard vs. any hazard will indicate Speed.
- Pokemon A has 100 Speed and has Stealth Rock on their field, while the opposing Pokemon B has 101 Speed and has a Spike on their field. Pokemon B will take Spikes damage, then Pokemon A will take Stealth Rock damage.
- Pokemon A has 100 Speed and has Stealth Rock on their field, while the opposing Pokemon B has 101 Speed and has the ability Intimidate. Pokemon B activate Intimidate, then Pokemon A will take Stealth Rock damage.
- Entry hazards always complete before entrance Ability activations, but they are "tied together". For example, a Tapu Koko comes in with Stealth Rock and Toxic Spikes, it will always take rocks and be poisoned first, then activate Electric Surge. After that, the game will move on to the next Pokemon's entry hazards or entrance Abilities.
- Choice Scarf Landorus-T and Tapu Koko both come in, both with Stealth Rock. The interaction would play out as follows: Landorus takes Stealth Rock damage, then Intimidate activates, then Tapu Koko takes Stealth Rock damage, then Electric Surge activates.
- In a Double battle, if a grounded Poison-type is faster than its ally, it will absorb the Toxic Spikes and the ally will not get poisoned.
- Sticky Web does not affect the order in which entry hazards or entrance Ability activations complete.
- Entry hazard Speed ties, just like entrance Ability Speed ties, are determined via the RNG. Moreover, because entrance Abilities lie in the same "bracket" as entry hazards, an entrance Ability activation for one Pokemon can "Speed tie" an entry hazard activation on another Pokemon.
- If entry hazards KO a Pokemon, all remaining Pokemon that can be affected by entry hazards / will announce their entrance Ability do so. After all Pokemon are finished, the player can bring in a new Pokemon. If multiple Pokemon are KOed due to hazards on the same "turn", then their replacements are sent out based on fainted Speed order recognition mechanics based on the Speeds of the NEWLY fainted Pokemon, not the original Pokemon that fainted.
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2) With respect to your particular example, you can't Encore a move that calls another move. However, Disabling Nature Power after successfully calling Tri Attack resulted in Nature Power being disabled, not Tri Attack, and Tri Attack can be selected as normal. The move that calls other moves is being treated as most recent for all cases I can think of offhand.
3) Yes.
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