Power Creep: DPPt OU v. BW UU! (Round 1)

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Introduction

Everyone has been impressed with the power creep of BW. The increase in power of Pokemon in BW has been so impressive, that UU has come into its own as a tier respected for high-powered battles. When people say "the lower tiers," in BW, they often mean only RU and NU--wait, when did UU become a higher tier? Probably about the same time people started comparing it to DPP OU. It's become a pretty common notion that there are startling similarities between BW UU and DPP OU-- not to mention the Pokemon, with top DPP OU threats like Azelf, Zapdos, Kingdra, Flygon, Swampert, Bronzong, Machamp, etc. etc. etc. finding themselves amongst UU's ranks. Well here's the tournament to finally settle the score. This team will feature head-to-head match-ups between these metagames, and give us an insight into which metagame really is (was?) stronger.

On one hand, DPP's packing some bad-ass beasts that still wreck OU today, like Tyranitar, Scizor, Heatran and Gyarados... on the other side, UU's got all sorts of new (and old) tricks up its sleave, with Pokemon like Darmanitan, Regenerator Slowbro, Mew, and Scald Suicune in the wings. Which side will rise to the top? Let's get this tournament going!

The newest BW OU list is out, and we will use it. (Unfortunately, nothing dropped, while Deo-D got banned to BL T^T )

Rules:


... General Tournament Rules
  • General tournament rules and regulations can be found here
  • Fifth Generation
  • DW UBERS (in order to allow DPP Only Items and Blaze Blaziken)
  • Single Elimination
  • Species Clause
  • OHKO Clause
  • Evasion Clause
  • Sleep Clause
  • Self-KO Clause
  • Timed Battle
  • Matches must be conducted on Pokemon Online
  • KEEP LOGS PLEASE!!~
  • Team Preview will be turned off, NO WIFI CLAUSE bringing battle conditions more in line with DPP OU-- a creative challenge for UU players.
NO TEAM PREVIEW IN THIS TOURNAMENT


Format:

Tournament matches will be a best of 3, with a format as follows:

Round 1: Player A: DPP OU v. Player B: BW UU
Round 2: Player A: BW UU v. Player B: DPP OU
Round 3: Both players free to use a DPP OU team OR a BW UU Team

So, both players will have a chance to use both metagames, and the first two matches will also be DPP OU v. BW UU. In the 3rd round, you will pick one.

important: Even in round 3, you cannot mix BW UU Pokemon and DPP OU Pokemon onto the same team!!



Rules for DPP OU Teams


  • Standard DPP OU Teams (-rotom formes)
  • All BW-Only Pokemon, Moves, Items, and Abilities are banned (No Dream World Abilities, no Scald, no Eviolite, no BW Pokemon, etc. etc.)
  • All Pokemon listed on the DPP Uber List are banned (including Mew and Deoxys-D).
  • All items available in DPP OU are allowed! (Feel free to use pinch berries, etc. Bring your Petaya Empoleon)
  • All Rotom-A formes are banned, an unfortunate decision, seeing as how these play a key part of DPP OU, but considering how they can't get their Ghost-type in these matches, I decided they were in poor spirit of this tournament. Besides, you need to shark to get them on wifi anyway...
Essentially, your team should be as if you JUST transferred it over, except you can bring your items and can't bring your rotom-formes.


Rules for BW UU Teams


  • Standard BW UU Teams
  • All BW Uber, OU, and BL Pokemon are banned.
  • BW UU Teams are limited to BW available items (NO PETAYA EMPOLEON)




PLEASE SAVE THE LOGS
(And send them to me)
This tournament is an interesting chance to see which of the two tiers is stronger. As the tournament host, I'd like to request that all logs be sent to me. Of course, there will be NO consequences for not saving the logs, but I want to collect as many of them as possible. OF COURSE none of the logs will be disclosed until the tournament is finished-- so be sure that I will not release any team information. I just want to have the logs as a good record of the tournament.

When a match is over, please PM me an aesoft replay private link, or attach the log file and e-mail it to me at meiwaku.dake@gmail.com



Tournament matches between 2 players will be a best of 3 rounds, with a format as follows:

Round 1: Player A: DPP OU v. Player B: BW UU
Round 2: Player A: BW UU v. Player B: DPP OU
Round 3: Both players free to use a DPP OU team OR a BW UU Team

So, both players will have a chance to use both metagames, and the first two matches will also be DPP OU v. BW UU. In the 3rd round, you will pick one.
^This seems to not have been highlighted enough, as several users have already asked me about which player uses what tier. :| Make sure you have at least 2 teams (a DPP OU team and a BW UU team) before going into your match... you will need both...



Bracket: Downloadable PDF Bracket


  1. Pikapwnd vs Trollmonchan
  2. Tobes vs idiotfrommars *
  3. Wobbanaut vs Ningildo
  4. ~GreenCore vs Eraddd
  5. Snunch vs Amell
  6. Adam Lambert vs M Dragon
  7. -Manu- vs Chieliee
  8. DetroitLolcat vs MarceloDK
  9. Kiyo vs Maaf
  10. BIG loven vs Steven Snype
  11. Lowgock vs FlareBlitz
  12. Ulyaoth Sultan vs LighTz911
  13. NatGeo vs undisputed
  14. wilson46 vs giara
  15. Brotom vs blarajan
  16. TalkingLion vs Orichalcos Owl
  17. Giga Punch vs Grimm70
  18. .Robert vs DarkLoïc
  19. symphonyx64 vs McMeghan
  20. Rydro vs Heysup
  21. PM #42 vs Pesadilla
  22. Giant Enemy Crab vs Biosci
  23. Tiffanyy vs DrMohammadLi
  24. Myso vs HiipFire
  25. Blue Jaw vs T-Dogg
  26. Texas Cloverleaf vs Eo Ut Mortus
  27. Celsius vs Lamppost
  28. D4RR3N vs eaglesrock
  29. Pedrock vs ThunderBlunder
  30. Malekith vs CriCri95
  31. SOMALIA vs kuja20
  32. fatty vs Jellicent
  33. Pkrs vs Leftiez
  34. FelixMinamimoto vs thepokmonpimp1
  35. Frizy vs lapras6666
  36. Zebraiken vs AlphaJolt
  37. Disposable Puppets vs kokoloko
  38. badabing vs reachzero
  39. Draycos7 vs [K-12] The Madchine
  40. WhiteQueen vs dragonboy52
  41. Donkey vs Novaray
  42. Rockhp31 vs Vaz
  43. Temptation vs Rewer
  44. reyscarface vs Agammemnon
  45. Fantom0 vs kael
  46. Tomahawk9 vs mostwanted
  47. Raseri vs Steamroll
  48. RegiGuy vs Cristal
  49. DittoCrow vs AkHolic
  50. NightFox vs MikeDecIsHere
  51. The Kyle vs pokebasket
  52. SethZiBritannia vs yondie
  53. Z-rex vs Noodlez
  54. Kennen vs Nexuz
  55. AnEntAmongMen vs IceCarAdler
  56. CheezitKing vs SubakSupreme
  57. yee vs Blue_Star
  58. Krack vs LuckOverSkill
  59. Mafeking vs dragonuser
  60. Vinc2612 vs Ojama
  61. HBK vs KnightoftheWind
  62. H-C I vs Lakers I
  63. Limitless vs Omicron
  64. Eustatic vs Matrulez25

Deadline: 2 weeks (April 17th)
 

Eo Ut Mortus

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We're allowed to use moves/abilities that have changed from DPP to BW on our DPP teams, right? (Drain Punch, Wish, Explosion, Stench, etc.)
 
me and Raseri chatted on IRC a few hours ago, set for thursday which is enough time to build a team and that jazz. Will notify if something comes up.
 

gec

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Played game 1 with biosci (me dppt ou), lost. Will send in all the logs when the series has finished.
 
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This seems to not have been highlighted enough, as several users have already asked me about which player uses what tier. :| Make sure you have at least 2 teams (a DPP OU team and a BW UU team) before going into your match... you will need both...
Does this mean that we can use a different DPP OU team or BW UU team in round 3 after round 1 and round 2?
 
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