Project PU Victim of the Week! Finished

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Checks: Simisear, and Aboma
Counters: Lurantis, and sandslash

I was really back and forth about voting for the simisear, just because i'm usually really unlucky with non 100% accuracy moves, but I hit 5 hurricanes in a row today and took it as a sign to vote for it. Also I'm suprised no one nominated bronzor as a counter, torterra can not touch that mon.
Edit: Oh its blacklisted, Thanks for clearing that up for me CrystalFalchion
 
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Checks: Simisear, and Aboma
Counters: Lurantis, and sandslash

I was really back and forth about voting for the simisear, just because i'm usually really unlucky with non 100% accuracy moves, but I hit 5 hurricanes in a row today and took it as a sign to vote for it. Also I'm suprised no one nominated bronzor as a counter, torterra can not touch that mon.
I think Bronzor was blacklisted as it can check basically anything without STAB Fire Dark or Ghost moves.
 
Winners


Checks

User
Pokemon
Set
Abomasnow (7 votes)
Oricorio Pom Pom (6 votes)

Counters

User
Pokemon
Set
royesk
Lurantis (11 votes)
Katy
Tangela (9 votes)
Honorable mentions:

Checks
Abomasnow - 7
Oricorio Pom Pom - 6
Cryogonal - 5
Simisear - 5
Dodrio - 3

Counters
Lurantis - 11
Tangela - 9
Sandslash-A - 4
Silvally-Dragon - 2




Ok guys and girls. I will say it right now that this will be the last victim for Gen 7 PU. Although Gen 8 PU won't be a thing until later next year, Gen 8 does officially begin on November 15 (1 week from today). So, I'll say more when the voting phase ends for the last victim. However, since this is the last victim, I am making it worth 3x POINTS! That's right, triple points for this last victim!

Final Gen 7 PU victim

The victim to kill dead this time is.....................

Oricorio-Sensu @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Hurricane
- Revelation Dance
- Hidden Power Fighting
 
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So when playing against Oricorio, you always struggle switching something in. In a certain state of the metagame, I really thought you couldn't even counter it realiably just of its ability to get through common "Counters" like Regirock for example.
Nowadays, I don't think so anymore. Still, chosing a check should be easier to get simple points!

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Aurorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Blizzard
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Rock]​

For me, Aurorus is by far the best check to common Oricoriosets. You outspeed, eat up its STABs and HP Fighting only has a chance to kill Aurorus at +1. With 2 rounds of Hail chipdamage, Aurorus KOs this set guaranteed even at +1 Sp.Def. with Blizzard!
 
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Lycanroc @ Lycanium Z
Ability: Sand Rush
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Accelerock
- Stone Edge
- Drill Run

Lycanroc is able to counter Oricorio-Sensu, as it can switch into any move, outrun and OHKO Oricorio with Stone Edge.

252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lycanroc: 175-207 (60.1 - 71.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Revelation Dance vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lycanroc: 171-202 (58.7 - 69.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lycanroc: 154-182 (52.9 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Lycanroc Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 402-474 (138.1 - 162.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Check: Oricorio-Pom-Pom


Oricorio-Pom-Pom @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Roost
- Hurricane
- Revelation Dance


It's a rough neighborhood around these parts. Bird on bird action is rampant and the crime rate is skyrocketing at an unimaginable pace. If you can't beat em', join em'. The only way to settle this is with a well-timed dance-off...

Calc:
252 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Revelation Dance vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Sensu: 324-384 (111.3 - 131.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO​
 
Dodrio

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Dodrio @ Choice Band
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Return

- Jump Kick
- Knock Off

Dodrio is a check to Oricorio as it is faster and can revenge kill it with ease, as its good Base-Attack and High base Power moves will allow Dodrio to break through Oricorio-Sensu. However you should be wary of switchg in Dodrio directly into an Attack, but it is a big threat nontheless to Oricorio for its higher Speed and its good Attack.

Calcs:
252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 348-411 (119.5 - 141.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 252-298 (86.5 - 102.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dodrio: 222-262 (85 - 100.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dodrio: 81-96 (31 - 36.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dodrio: 121-143 (46.3 - 54.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+2 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dodrio: 162-191 (62 - 73.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock


 
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Regirock: Counter



Regirock @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge / Rock Slide
- Earthquake
- Toxic / Protect
Don't mind me, just talking about yet another thing Regirock is capable of dealing with in this tier. Regirock is easily my favourite counter because it eats everything Oricorio can throw at it (see calcs below), KO's with Stone Edge (investing 12 into attack will make this guaranteed if a 93.8% chance isn't quite enough for you), and depending on the situation can be used to set up rocks or throw off a toxic.

252 SpA Oricorio Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 68-81 (18.6 - 22.2%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Oricorio Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 114-135 (31.3 - 37%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Oricorio Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 112-133 (30.7 - 36.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 102-121 (28 - 33.2%) -- 93.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 172-203 (47.2 - 55.7%) -- 21.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Regirock: 169-199 (46.4 - 54.6%) -- 9.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Regirock Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Oricorio: 288-342 (98.9 - 117.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
12 Atk Regirock Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Oricorio: 294-348 (101 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
0 Atk Regirock Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Oricorio: 218-258 (74.9 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (This is for the people who really don't like missing, but at the cost of not being able to counter Oricorio at +1)

Alongside Regirock literally geting a free switch every time Oricorio comes out, it's important to note that Regirock doesn't get worn down heavily by Stealth Rock as other counters might which allows for better longevity and more switching opportunities (running protect over toxic only enhances this as well). When you also consider the general role Regirock plays as defensive glue on a lot of teams, I think it's pretty obvious as to why Regirock is an amazing counter.
 
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Cryogonal

Quite literally the best counter.

Cryogonal @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 SpA / 52 SpD / 200 Spe
Timid Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Recover
- Attract Frost Breath
- Hidden Power Fire





This floating snowflake lives up to it's name as being one of PU's strongest specially defensive walls in the entire tier. No matter the setup potential your opponent will have, Cryogonal will always have some trixx up its' sleeves to combat them (see what I did there?). As a matter of fact, this Cryogonal set was designed quite literally to counter Oricorio lol. Frost Breath is the neat tech of choice here because it allows Cryogonal to combat Oricorio even after it has already boosted! If being mentioned in its' Smogdex isn't proof enough, here are some calcs just to show you that you don't need a base 50 defense and a horrible defensive typing to be standing among the top threats of the PU tier.


252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 52 SpD Cryogonal: 109-130 (30 - 35.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 52 SpD Cryogonal: 184-217 (50.6 - 59.7%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 52 SpD Cryogonal: 276-325 (76 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
8 SpA Cryogonal Frost Breath vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Sensu on a critical hit: 254-300 (87.2 - 103%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Frost Breath is clearly the move of choice here because it is the reason Cryogonal is able to counter all sets of Oricorio Sensu and PomPom. (Shout out to Royesk for that one).

Maybe Cryogonal can actually use Attract? Because I quite literally am in love with this mon and all of its' potential. There is no better counter who is as reliable as Cryogonal.
 
time to get spooky

Spiritomb
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Spiritomb @ Aguav Berry / Black Glasses
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Sucker Punch
- Foul Play
- Will-O-Wisp



Dont forget about me!

Spiritomb is a ckeck to the sensu birb. It can come in from full and take any hit from oricorio-sensu and in return threaten it with sucker punch or pursuit. If you run a 50% berry like aguav or wiki, you even live SSS into hurricane if you predict two turns wrong and went for pursuit or if oricorio-sensu lives the sucker punch. If you run black glasses, sucker punch just ohkos for sure.
What also speaks for tomb is the ability to hit through sub with infiltrator.
Spiritombs downside is that it needs good prediction in order to check it well.

All in all i think it is one of the best checks to oricorio-sensu, you just have to play smart.


252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Spiritomb: 232-274 (76.5 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
definitely activates your berry and heals you back to 73,5 - 59,6% (simple maths)
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252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Spiritomb: 139-165 (45.8 - 54.4%) -- 52.3% chance to 2HKO
as you can see SSS into hurrican never kills without rocks


252+ Atk Spiritomb Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 266-314 (91.4 - 107.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

and with black glasses:
252+ Atk Black Glasses Spiritomb Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 318-374 (109.2 - 128.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
as you can see both items have there benefits.
 
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Holding on to Skuntank

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Skuntank @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Aftermath
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Poison Jab
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Memento​

Given the worst-case scenario of a Z-move, this makes for a check

Scarf ramps up the speed to 400. Crunch KOs a bird that stays in, Pursuit KOs a bird that runs off, and can withstand a regular Hurricane that actually hits. Adamant nature guarantees KOs where a Jolly nature cannot. "Another choice scarf submission?" You're playing 4D-Chess as it is with Pursuit. Do you really want to add another dimension with guessing when Sucker Punch will work?

252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Skuntank: 220-261 (63.4 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Skuntank: 372-438 (107.2 - 126.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO (a.k.a. why it's a check and not a counter)

252+ Atk Skuntank Crunch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 306-360 (105.1 - 123.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Skuntank Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 152-182 (52.2 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (a.k.a. YU KENT ESKEPP)

Checks
Rubicon - 5

Wait, why am I a Pokemon?
 
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Here's a funny little set that might work out

Nominating Regice as a counter
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Regice @ Assault Vest
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon/ Hidden power Fire

AV Regice eats up anything oricorio does and ice beams it into oblivion, either ohkoing a non boosted oricorio, or 2hkoing a boosted one. A worst case scenario of a +1 supersonic strike still only does an average of about 40.5%.
It does check/counter some other relevant mons like torterra, victree and specs drampa so it's really not that unreasonable to put this on a team.
Anyways Calcs below
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 135-160 (37.1 - 44%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 81-96 (22.3 - 26.4%) -- 12.4% chance to 4HKO
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Revelation Dance vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 134-158 (36.9 - 43.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252 SpA Oricorio Hidden Power Fighting vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 60-72 (16.5 - 19.8%) -- possible 6HKO

252 SpA Oricorio Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 91-108 (25 - 29.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
252 SpA Oricorio Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 54-64 (14.8 - 17.6%) -- possible 6HKO
252 SpA Oricorio Revelation Dance vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Regice: 90-108 (24.7 - 29.7%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO

252+ SpA Regice Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Sensu: 360-426 (123.7 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Regice Ice Beam vs. +1 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Sensu: 240-284 (82.4 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Golem, my Round ball like friend, in his finest vest, makes for a spiffy Counter I'd say


Golem @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sturdy / Sand veil
EVs: 252 Atk / 208 SpD / 48 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stone Edge/ rock slide
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Counter

Unless You have miss luck with stone edge missing 1 and they boosted into a Crit or if You miss 2 times and they get a good roll on +1 Z then did a dance, it'd be roughly 10-22% chance, IF

252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Revelation Dance vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem: 88-105 (29.2 - 34.8%) -- 8.6% chance to 3HKO
+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Revelation Dance vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem: 132-156 (43.8 - 51.8%) -- 9% chance to 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem: 135-159 (44.8 - 52.8%) -- 23.8% chance to 2HKO

+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem on a critical hit: 202-238 (67.1 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It's no where close to knocking golem out even at +1

252+ Atk Golem Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Sensu: 452-534 (155.3 - 183.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Sturdy isn't helpful honestly

+1 252 SpA Oricorio-Sensu Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 208 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Golem on a critical hit: 264-311 (74.7 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Eel

252+ SpA Eelektross Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem: 224-268 (74.4 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Golem Explosion vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eelektross: 340-400 (90.9 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Drampa

252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 208 SpD Assault Vest Golem: 259-306 (86 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
focus blast kills tho

You can only boom or do 66%ish with stab
 
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Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake

Check. Since Abomasnow cannot switch into either Hurricane or Z-Hurricane and thusly makes it a check. Once it's in, it easily takes down Sensu with a simple can't-miss Blizzard:

252 SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Sensu: 380-450 (130.5 - 154.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Checks
User
Pokemon
Set
jonago
Katy
Abomasnow

Counters


Once again folks, this is the final victim for Gen 7 PU and the winners get 3x POINTS! Choose wisely!

Vote for 2 checks AND 2 counters!

Checks: Pom Pom and Skuntank
Counters: Lycanroc and Cryogonal

 
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