Rhydon (OU revamp) [QC 2/2] [GP 2/2] [DONE]

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Plague von Karma

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Taken over from Sceptross 5th August 2020

[OVERVIEW]
Rhydon possesses a very important place in RBY OU thanks to a fairly unique typing and formidable Attack stat; moreover, its Earthquake is the most powerful physical attack in the game without a drawback. Rhydon's typing gives it a good amount of defensive utility, such as switching in to force and punish Hyper Beam recharges, taking Explosions, staving off Thunder Wave, and stonewalling Zapdos and Jolteon. Thanks to the immense Attack stat it has, Rhydon can hit very high damage ranges, the most notable one being a guaranteed 2HKO on Chansey. It's also capable of KOing Tauros after two Body Slams from other Tauros. This power makes it very difficult to switch into, with would-be checks such as Exeggutor taking surprising damage. While initially slow, Rhydon is also a very scary foe for paralyzed teams to fight, often folding to it outright by virtue of its immense power. Naturally, this also means it appreciates paralysis support from teammates such as Chansey. It can still outspeed Slowbro and Snorlax, however, allowing it to force damage on non-Reflect variants of the two.

Golem has competed with Rhydon for a place on teams for many years. This is primarily due to the fact that it has the second strongest Explosion in the game, only beaten by Snorlax, along with higher Speed to win against Rhydon specifically. However, its low HP leaves it without access to 101-HP Substitutes. This makes it significantly worse against Chansey, as they will break against its Seismic Toss. It also has little reward for the increased Speed, only gaining the ability to outrun Rhydon. The lower damage output also causes Golem to lose out on some very valuable ranges, notably losing to the aforementioned Reflect Chansey more often than not, which Rhydon excels against. Due to these factors, Rhydon is generally favored over Golem in the metagame.

[SET]
name: Standard
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Rock Slide
move 3: Body Slam
move 4: Substitute

This is the set one should expect when seeing Rhydon. Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest physical move in the game with no drawbacks, hitting anything that doesn't resist it extremely hard. Rock Slide is mostly used for Zapdos and hitting Pokemon such as Exeggutor, Cloyster, and Lapras harder. Body Slam is extremely valuable for Rhydon's success, as it allows Rhydon to generate its own paralysis support against the likes of Exeggutor, Starmie, Alakazam, and Lapras. Substitute is a complex move on Rhydon's moveset and one that is generally hard for inexperienced players to understand the true potential of, but it can single-handedly win games; its ability to create a 103-HP Substitute means that they can't be broken by Seismic Toss Chansey, which gives Rhydon the edge in the one-on-one against it. This also means that Rhydon can create Substitutes versus Pokemon that can't significantly damage it, such as Zapdos and Jolteon, giving it a free hit against whatever comes in afterwards, which can either instantly mean a win for the Rhydon user or dealing a huge chunk of damage to a replacement like Tauros. Substitute is also extremely helpful against paralyzed Starmie, giving Rhydon time to fish for full paralysis to stay in. Rhydon can then go for the uncommon 2HKO with Earthquake or even a possible OHKO with a critical hit. Should Starmie be paralyzed by Body Slam switching in, Rhydon is in a very good position to go for this.

Despite being slow, it's very hard to switch into Rhydon if you lack Exeggutor, making it one of the key reasons for Exeggutor's success in RBY OU. It's an absolute nightmare for players to deal with Rhydon if they have a paralyzed team, as Rhydon will easily rampage through it. It's a very viable strategy in RBY OU to build a team around Rhydon, providing it with the paralysis support it needs to clean up the mess. Its key immunity to Electric-type moves, namely Thunder Wave, means that it's very hard to reliably paralyze Rhydon and also gives it switch-in opportunities on Pokemon such as Alakazam and Chansey. It is also the premier counter to Zapdos and Jolteon, two Pokemon that can be very dangerous in its absence—especially Zapdos—due to the few Electric-resistant Pokemon in RBY OU. Rhydon also resists Normal-type moves, which means it can switch into a predicted Explosion or Hyper Beam.

Despite all of the advantages, Rhydon is heavily reliant on opposing Pokemon being paralyzed to get in safely. It has very poor Special; this and its typing can make it easy prey for almost every special attacker in the tier. As a result, Rhydon tends to struggle one-on-one against non-paralyzed threats, notably Tauros, Starmie, and Exeggutor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Out of all of Rhydon's moves, the most replaceable would be Rock Slide. This is because the coverage provided by it is rather specific, while the other moves add key utility that is pivotal to Rhydon's success. When dropping Rock Slide, be wary of the fact that Earthquake is a 4HKO on Cloyster and a 3HKO on Lapras, and you'll have a much harder time versus Moltres and Articuno, though the two legendary birds are not that common. Should these qualities be useful, however, Body Slam can be dropped instead. In this case, though, Rhydon can't set up paralysis for itself, causing it to become much more reliant on teammates. This makes matchups against threats such as Starmie noticeably worse.

Rest can be used to give Rhydon more longevity, but it's hard to wake up due to being 2HKOed by Tauros. It's generally used on more defensive teams to better handle Zapdos and Jolteon throughout a game, but it does have uses outside of this. Rest can be extremely helpful against Reflect Chansey, enabling Rhydon to be more aggressive and burn free Rest turns behind Substitute. It also helps against Snorlax without coverage, as Rhydon despises being paralyzed by Snorlax on switch-in. Another option to consider is Leer; this allows Rhydon to beat Reflect Chansey much more reliably and gives it a way to get past Reflect Snorlax. However, these Pokemon can switch out to get rid of the Defense drops. This also gives faster Pokemon the opportunity to switch in on the Leer while taking no damage, which can give the opponent opportunities to play around Rhydon's usual sweeping. When spamming Earthquake, on the other hand, a critical hit would ruin Reflect Chansey and Snorlax, and switching out would still likely force damage on whatever comes in. Counter can be used to more heavily punish Hyper Beam and Explosion usage, flipping the situation on the opponent. Bringing in Rhydon after an opponent's Explosion and using Counter after forcing their switch-in out can usually lead to a free KO. While gimmicky, Bubble Beam could be used for other Rhydon or Golem, which can lead to a Speed drop, guaranteeing a KO with Earthquake. It can also allow Rhydon to move first against Exeggutor on switch-in, which can allow Rhydon to situationally win the interaction should it be worn down.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]
**Exeggutor**: Exeggutor is the best check for Rhydon in the game. It resists Earthquake and doesn't take much damage from Rock Slide, which is only a 4HKO. However, it must watch out for Body Slam. In fact, most variants of Rhydon will use Body Slam expecting an Exeggutor switch-in if it's still healthy. A paralyzed Exeggutor won't be able to reliably check Rhydon anymore, as two Rock Slides will deal upwards of 55% of damage to it.

**Tauros**: Tauros is only 3HKOed by Earthquake and can 2HKO Rhydon with Blizzard in return, which, when combined with Tauros's absurdly high critical hit rate and the chance of freeze, means that Rhydon is almost always forced out, and even if it doesn't switch out, there's a respectable chance that it does absolutely nothing in return. However, Tauros doesn't appreciate being damaged, especially if the Tauros on Rhydon's team is still at full HP. Rhydon will usually be forced out after KOing a Pokemon due to this, which gives Tauros ample opportunity to start exerting its sweeping prowess.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster is only 4HKOed by Earthquake and 3HKOed by Rock Slide, and it can OHKO a third of the time in return with Blizzard. It even packs Clamp for denying a free move to Rhydon when it's staying behind a Substitute, as Clamp will always break the Substitute and render Rhydon immobile in the process.

**Starmie and Chansey**: These two Pokemon are able to switch in on Rhydon and duel it, but only if they are not paralyzed, and Chansey requires Reflect. Chansey is 2HKOed by Earthquake, and Starmie, while very rarely 2HKOed by Earthquake, can be paralyzed by Body Slam on the switch or on a predicted Recover, turning the tides in Rhydon's favor. The paralysis factor makes these matchups extremely variable.

**Victreebel**: Victreebel outspeeds and OHKOes Rhydon with Razor Leaf. However, it takes a huge chunk of damage from Earthquake, with a likely roll to 2HKO.

**Slowbro**: Slowbro threatens to OHKO Rhydon with Surf, and with Reflect, it can effortlessly set up Amnesia against it. Thunder Wave can also be used on a switch prediction to worsen the situation. However, it does take significant damage coming in, making it a check at best.

**Lapras and Jynx**: These Pokemon can OHKO Rhydon with their Ice-type moves, but they struggle to switch in because of the threat of Rock Slide, as it will almost always 2HKO Lapras and always OHKO Jynx. Paralyzing them also turns these two Ice-type Pokemon into prey for Rhydon to feast on.

**Golem**: Golem outspeeds Rhydon and 2HKOes it with Earthquake. However, Rhydon also 2HKOes Golem with its own Earthquake, meaning Golem cannot switch in at all.

**Reflect Snorlax**: While Rhydon is only 3HKOed by Earthquake and Ice Beam, it struggles heavily when actually KOing Snorlax without critical hits if Reflect is active. Earthquake can deal up to 38% before Reflect goes up, but after that, the damage is negligible at best. Reflect Snorlax does give Rhydon a good amount of opportunities to fish for critical hits, so this matchup can be quite volatile. Snorlax also has issues switching in, making it a check at best.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Plague von Karma, 236353], [Sceptross, 123746]]
- Quality checked by: [[Amaranth, 265630], [FriendOfMrGolem120, 424525]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Kris, 241023], [Estronic, 240732]]

[OVERVIEW]

Throughout most of RBY's lifespan, Golem and Rhydon were compared - while some favoured Rhydon's superior sweeping capabilities, others preferred Golem's wallbreaking ability in the form of Explosion. However, the discovery that Body Slam can't paralyze normal types led to changes in the metagame that proved much more beneficial for Rhydon than for Golem - the most notable of those being the rise of Reflect Chansey, a set that Golem struggles immensely with, whereas Rhydon beats it most of the time. Rhydon possesses an insanely high Attack stat that allows it to hit damage ranges Golem can only hope of achieving, the most notable being the guaranteed 2HKO on Chansey and the ability to KO a Tauros that has been hit by 2 Tauros Body Slams. Rhydon also does much more damage to Exeggutor, its premier check, than Golem, and can realistically expect to take it out of comission after a couple switch-ins from Exeggutor.

Rhydon is also one of the best wallbreakers and sweepers of the tier. Despite being slow, it's very hard to switch into it if you lack Exeggutor, making it one of the key reasons to Exeggutor's success in RBY OU. It's an absolute nightmare to deal with Rhydon with a paralyzed team, as Rhydon will easily rampage through it. It's a very viable strategy in RBY OU to build a team around Rhydon, providing it the paralysis support it needs to clean up the mess. Its key immunity to electric moves - namely, Thunder Wave - means that it's very hard to reliably paralyze Rhydon and also gives it switch-in opportunities on Pokemon such as Alakazam and Chansey. It is also the premier counter to Zapdos and Jolteon, two Pokemon that can be very dangerous in its absence - especially Zapdos, because of its immunity to Earthquake. It also resists Normal moves, which means it can switch into a predicted Explosion or Hyper Beam.

Unfortunately, despite being the offensive behemoth that it is, Rhydon is not without its cripping flaws. It is 2HKO'd by Tauros, the hardest Pokemon to switch into in RBY OU. This means that everytime Rhydon KOs a Pokemon, it's giving free pass to the last Pokemon you want to give a free turn to. Secondly, it is also very frail in the special side of the spectrum, which added to the fact that it's weak to Ice means that it can be OHKO'd by strong Ice moves such as Lapras, Cloyster, Jynx or Articuno's Blizzard as well as 2HKO'd by the aforementioned Tauros, Starmie and Chansey (if they are packing an Ice move). In fact, Rhydon struggles so much with special moves that any special attack that is not an electric move can be a big problem. Exeggutor, Starmie, Jynx and Alakazam's Psychic do huge chunks of damage, and the latter's can even OHKO the rock rhino if it lands a critical hit. Lastly, it struggles to get past Reflect Snorlax, a very common sight in RBY OU, as it commonly carries Ice Beam or Earthquake as its coverage move.

[SET]
name: Standard
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Rock Slide
move 3: Body Slam
move 4: Substitute

This is the set you should expect when you see Rhydon. Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest physical move in the game with no drawbacks and hits ruthlessly hard anything that doesn't resist it. Rock Slide is mostly used for Zapdos and for hitting Pokemon such as Exeggutor, Cloyster and Lapras harder. Contrary to what would be expected, Body Slam is used more than Rock Slide throughout the game, as it allows Rhydon to generate its own paralysis support against the likes of Exeggutor, Starmie, Alakazam or Lapras. Substitute is a complex move on Rhydon's moveset, and one that is generally hard for inexperienced players to understand the true potential of, but it can single-handedly win games - its ability to create 103 HP substitutes means that they can't be broken by Seismic Toss Chansey, which gives Rhydon the edge on the 1v1 versus the aforementioned Pokemon. It also means it can create substitutes versus Pokemon that can't significantly damage it - such as Zapdos and Jolteon, giving it a free hit against whatever comes in afterwards, which can instantly mean a win for the Rhydon user or at least deal a huge chunk of damage to something like Tauros.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Rest can be used to give Rhydon more longevity, but it's hard to wake up due to being 2HKO'd by Tauros. It's generally used in stallier teams. If you do opt for Rest, don't drop Substitute, though, as Substitute is key to Rhydon's success (and it also provides it opportunities to wake up more easily). Since Body Slam's paralysis effect is really useful and Rhydon still 1v1's Zapdos with Body Slam, the ideal move to drop would be Rock Slide. Just beware of the fact that Earthquake is a 4HKO on Cloyster and a 3HKO on Lapras, and you'll have a much harder job versus Moltres and Articuno, although the two legendary birds are not that common. Another option to consider is Leer. Leer allows Rhydon to beat Reflect Chansey much more reliably and gives it a way to get past Reflect Snorlax. However, these Pokemon can just switch out to get rid of the defense drops, and unlike when using Earthquake, you are not proactively trying to defeat those Pokemon (for example, when using Earthquake, a critical hit will ruin both Pokemon's pretentions). Once again, don't even consider dropping Substitute - Rock Slide or to a lesser extent Body Slam are the moves to drop should you opt for Leer.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

**Exeggutor**: Exeggutor is the best check in the game for Rhydon. It resists Earthquake and doesn't take much damage from Rock Slide - it's only a 4HKO. However, it must watch out for Body Slam. In fact, most Rhydons will use Body Slam expecting an Exeggutor switch-in, if it's still healthy. A paralyzed Exeggutor won't be able to reliably check Rhydon anymore, as two Rock Slides will deal upwards of 55% of damage to the pine tree.

**Tauros**: Tauros is only 3HKO'd by Earthquake and 2HKOs with Blizzard in return - which, added to Tauros' absurdely high crit chance and the threat of freeze, means that Rhydon is almost always forced to switch out and even if it doesn't, there's a respectable chance that it does absolutely nothing in return. However, Tauros doesn't appreciate being damaged, especially if the other Tauros is still at full HP.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster is only 3HKOd by Rock Slide and can OHKO in return with Blizzard - it's an unlikely range, though. It even packs Clamp for denying a free move to Rhydon when it's staying behind a substitute, as Clamp will always break the substitute and render Rhydon immobile in the process.

**Starmie, Chansey**: These two Pokemon are able to 1v1 Rhydon, but only if they are not paralyzed. Chansey is 2HKO'd by Earthquake, and Starmie, while very rarely 2HKO'd by Earthquake can be paralyzed by Body Slam on the switch or on a predicted Recover, turning the tides in Rhydon's favor.

**Lapras, Jynx**: These three Pokemon can OHKO Rhydon with their Ice moves, but struggle to switch in because of the threat of Rock Slide, as it will almost always 2HKO Lapras and always OHKO Jynx. Paralyzing them also turns these two Ice Pokemon into Rhydon prey.

**Golem**: Golem outspeeds Rhydon and 2HKOs it with Earthquake. It's also hard to paralyze due to its immunity to Thunder Wave. However,, Rhydon also 2HKOs it, and an eventual paralysis from Body Slam will severely cripple Golem.

**Victreebel**: Victreebel outspeeds and OHKOs Rhydon with Razor Leaf. However, it takes a huge chuck of damage from Earthquake, it being a likely roll to 2HKO.

[CREDITS]
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Most of what is in the intro is stuff that should be in the set analysis. The intro should pretty much be a short preview so that people get a rough idea of what this pokemon does before they dive into the full analysis, rather than being a full analysis already. Mention the rare typing + key Zapdos walling capabilities + wallbreaking power (and upside over Golem) + TWave immunity + Ice weakness, don't go on for three full paragraphs about its roles - move that stuff to set description.

As for what is in the set description itself, mention that Rhydon can sub up against Sleeping pokemon as well. And then add here the paragraphs that you dumped in the intro - Paragraph 2 from the intro ("Rhydon is also...") is pretty much a perfect explanation of what the set does, and you can expand on it by adding bits and pieces from Paragraphs 1 and 3 from the intro (not all of them - most of 1 is either superfluous or already covered in the intro, and 3 is better covered in the checks and counters options).

Counter could get a mention in other options, it's decently usable with specific Explosion tricks and sequences (I think someone's made some legitimate amount of research on these setups, but I don't remember who - probably one of Lusch or Troller). And I suppose Bubble Beam gives you the upper hand in Rock/Ground vs Rock/Ground situations thanks to the speed drop, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone use it so maybe that's something that we'll add to this analysis in the future if and when it sees high level play.

Add Slowbro in the Checks and Counters section (maybe group it with Cloy), Surf threatens OHKO and Reflect straight up sets up on Rhydon while TW can use that Surf threat to catch and paralyze a switchin - it's not a great match up considering how much damage it takes, but it's at least a check.

There are significant structural changes to be made here so I'll hold off on giving a QC check until I see this updated, it's looking pretty solid content wise but it needs some reorganization
 

Plague von Karma

Banned deucer.
Not even sure if this is in active development given the age, let alone whether this should be said at this stage. Since the thread is up, may as well give it a whirl.

I think this sentence may need work:
Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest physical move in the game with no drawbacks and hits ruthlessly hard anything that doesn't resist it.
It's a bit scattered and doesn't flow well at all. Try reading it out loud and you should see what I mean. You could possibly move "ruthlessly hard" to the end of the sentence, and it would flow a lot better.
 

Plague von Karma

Banned deucer.
Amaranth that would be me!

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I put in my pretty extensive revision, so everyone can feel free to poke at it. I made these changes;
  • Gave the introduction a bit of a rework from the criticism you gave up above. The 2nd and 3rd paragraphs were moved and revised, while the first was mostly rewritten. Paragraph 2 moved to Set Details, Paragraph 3 moved to Checks and Counters. Both were modified to do the job right. I think there may still be stuff to do, though.
  • Added Slowbro and Reflect Snorlax to Checks and Counters. The latter can be seen as a bit iffy...I think?
  • Noted Bubble Beam as a potential Other Option; it can speed drop Golem or other Rhydon while putting them in range for Earthquake, or 2HKOing anyway. It can also speed drop Egg as it comes in, allowing for Rhydon to potentially just win the interaction if its worn down.
  • A ton of grammar fixes.
  • and probably some more stuff I forgot to mention
I'm also trying to get details on those Explosion-Counter interactions that were mentioned here, as I want those noted somewhere.
 

Amaranth

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Rhydon possesses a very important place in the RBY OU metagame, thanks to a unique typing and amazing physical attacking prowess. It can hit damage ranges Golem can only hope of achieving, the most notable being the guaranteed 2HKO on Chansey, as well as the ability to KO a Tauros that has been hit by 2 Tauros Body Slams. While initially slow, Rhydon is also a very scary opponent for paralyzed teams to fight, often folding to it outright by virtue of its immense power. Rhydon also does much more damage to would-be check Exeggutor than Golem, and can realistically expect to take it out of commission after a couple of switch-ins. On top of this, Rhydon's typing gives it a good amount of defensive utility; such as forcing Hyper Beam recharges, taking Explosions, staving off Thunder Wave, and stonewalling Zapdos and Jolteon.

Golem has competed with Rhydon for a place on teams for many years. This is primarily due to the fact it has the strongest Explosion in the game, along with higher Speed to win against Rhydon specifically. However, it is far less bulky, lacking access to 103 HP Substitutes. It also has little reward for the increased Speed. The lower damage output, outside of Explosion, also gives it a far worse matchup against Reflect Chansey, who Rhydon excels against. Due to these factors, Rhydon is generally favoured over Golem in the OU metagame.
The structure here still confuses me a little, with the second paragraph seemingly being focused on Golem comparisons, but then Golem comparisons are also sneaked into the first; some reordering is needed here. First paragraph should probably just be on Rhydon itself (unique typing, slow but immense power allows it to push through would-be checks like Exeggutor - probably worth it to add another sentence here about how much he appreciates paralysis support bc there is very little that can take two consecutive hits from Rhydon - resists HB/Explosion and walls electrics). Second paragraph is for Golem comparisons - Golem's slightly higher speed gives it the advantage in the 1v1, access to Explosion gives him some versatility, but he misses some very important ranges (the one mentioned in paragraph 1 currently can be used as an example, but the list is pretty extensive) and he can't run Substitute to improve his Ref Chansey matchup - this overall tips the balances in Rhydon's favor significantly

Contrary to what would be expected, Body Slam is used more than Rock Slide throughout the game
Don't think there's any reason to compare the two moves, can just state that Body Slam is a crucial move in Rhydon's toolbox for the reasons mentioned

It is also the premier counter to Zapdos and Jolteon, two Pokemon that can be very dangerous in its absence - especially Zapdos, because of its immunity to Earthquake.
Zapdos's EQ immunity isn't exactly what makes him especially dangerous, I don't think it's relevant enough to deserve a mention. Keep things slim, say that they can be very dangerous because of the scarcity of Electric resists in RBY

Once again, don't even consider dropping Substitute; Rock Slide, or to a lesser extent Body Slam, are the moves to drop should you opt for any of the options mentioned.
This entire concept is one that can be moved to the start of the paragraph imo, rather than bringing it up multiple times throughout. Something like 'out of Rhydon's moves, the one that is conventionally most droppable is Rock Slide, given that it only adds specific coverage, while the other three moves offer key utility that players usually do not wish to give up; in its place, you can use the following'. Also in OO, the 'proactively trying to defeat those pokemon' segment is a bit weird; I would instead say that Leer allows faster pokemon to switch in on the Leer while taking 0 damage which introduces outplay options for the opponent by reading Leer correctly while if you're spamming EQ your opponent will have to take that EQ damage on something if they wish to run. I leave wording this concept in an analysis-friendly way to you

<the paragraph to start C&C>
To my knowledge we don't do this - at least, I've never done this. Everything you say here is stated a second time later on in the paragraphs for the specific pokeon, so I don't think this paragraph is really needed.
As for the individual paragraphs:
- Tauros: "However, due to being 2HKOed easily by Tauros, this means that every time Rhydon KOs a Pokemon, it's giving a free pass to the last Pokemon that should be receiving a free turn." Entire sentence reads a bit weird - just say that Rhydon is forced out by Tauros which allows Tauros opportunities to exert its breaking power
- Cloyster: EQ doing pitiful damage should absolutely be mentioned because that's the move Rhydon usually wants to click; "it's a third of the time, though" is also a weird way to talk about damage rolls, just say "Blizzard will OHKO about one in three times" or something to that effect
- Starmie, Chansey: It's important that these pokemon are able to switch in on Rhydon outright, rather than simply 1v1ing it - this is something that Reflect-less Chansey can't do though. Good paragraph otherwise, important to mention how Paralysis flips the match up
- Golem: wouldn't say the paralysis is 'eventual', if you're predicting a Golem switchin you're going to EQ rather than BSlam. Wouldn't really mention paralysis at all here, Golem and Rhydon are not mons that get paralyzed all that often




To other points in your post:
- Reflect Snorlax is not an iffy check no, but the bottom of the list is the proper place for it since it can't usually hard switch on it at all and it lets Rhydon fish for a lot of crits; speaking of proper place for checks I'd argue Victreebel has a much more positive match up than a couple of things above it and should probably rise to just below Starm+Chans; Slowbro should also drop below them, I'd say below Victreebel as well but that's arguable
- Honestly don't think BubbleBeam is worth mentioning, never seen anyone use it, but it's not the worst thing in the world on paper so I don't hate it being there
- Explosion Counter interactions are mostly about Rhydon coming in after an Explosion from your opponent successfully scores a KO on another one of your pokemon. If they've gone to anything that is paralyzed or otherwise weak to Rhydon they'll be switching out, and in comes the Counter to OHKO an Exeggutor or a Starmie. Very niche and not very reliable interaction, but it can steal games

QC 1/2 when all of this is implemented, but this might take a few reviews
 

Plague von Karma

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Implemented most of the changes, a lot of the issues came from the parts of Sceptross' analysis that I had issues fixing. The introduction may need a bit more work, but I think I did the other bits ok. Thanks for the bits about Counter VS Explosion as well, I tried contacting Lusch but didn't get a message back.

I don't think Bubble Beam is really doing any harm being on there atm, but if someone else says to remove it I'll go ahead. It's definitely the weakest link out of all the OOs though.
 

Amaranth

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Implemented most of the changes, a lot of the issues came from the parts of Sceptross' analysis that I had issues fixing. The introduction may need a bit more work, but I think I did the other bits ok. Thanks for the bits about Counter VS Explosion as well, I tried contacting Lusch but didn't get a message back.

I don't think Bubble Beam is really doing any harm being on there atm, but if someone else says to remove it I'll go ahead. It's definitely the weakest link out of all the OOs though.
Still have a few issues with the intro - many sentences that referenced Golem comparisons (eg. "rhydon does much more damage to exeggutor") only made sense in that context and need some further smoothening. I'd probably rewrite most of it from scratch honestly. Golem paragraph is fine.

Don't think there's any need to say "contrary to what would be expected" when talking about Body Slam, it doesn't add anything of value to the analysis.

On Cloyster in C&C I would just add EQ at the start ("is only 4HKOd by Earthquake or 3HKOd by Rock Slide") rather than having the whole sentence added on.

The rest looks fine
 

Plague von Karma

Banned deucer.
Still have a few issues with the intro - many sentences that referenced Golem comparisons (eg. "rhydon does much more damage to exeggutor") only made sense in that context and need some further smoothening. I'd probably rewrite most of it from scratch honestly. Golem paragraph is fine.

Don't think there's any need to say "contrary to what would be expected" when talking about Body Slam, it doesn't add anything of value to the analysis.

On Cloyster in C&C I would just add EQ at the start ("is only 4HKOd by Earthquake or 3HKOd by Rock Slide") rather than having the whole sentence added on.

The rest looks fine
Gave the first part a go, and implemented the other two. What do you think?
 
i'm not RBY QC so consider this an am check:

Rhydon possesses a very important place in the RBY OU metagame, thanks to a fairly unique typing and formidable Attack
i would already put in the first sentence that Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest, no drawback, physical attack in the tier, cause is such a massive selling point for the pokemon.
such as forcing Hyper Beam recharges
instead of saying "forcing Hyper Beam racharges", i would say "punishing Hyper Beam recharges, specifically against Tauros".
While initially slow, Rhydon is also a very scary opponent for paralyzed teams to fight, often folding to it outright by virtue of its immense power. Naturally, this also means it appreciates paralysis support from teammates, such as Chansey.
It's worth mentioning that despite Rhydon low speed, it still outspeeds Snorlax and Slowbro, meaning it can force some good damage on non reflect variants of those two pokemon.
Golem has competed with Rhydon for a place on teams for many years. This is primarily due to the fact it has the strongest Explosion in the game
i think saying that Golem has the strongest Explosion in the game, while tecnically correct, it's misleading since Snorlax's Self-Destruct is much stronger.
However, it is far less bulky, lacking access to 103 HP Substitutes
Golem is not "far less bulky than Rhydon", it's just worse againts Seismic toss due to lower base HP, which translates in getting 4HKoed by Reflect Chansey instead of 5HKoed, also doesnt have access to 101HP Substitutes like you said, which are the key for Rhydon's success in beating a paralized Reflect Chansey.
It also can't run Substitute due to the value of Explosion
It's not that Golem doesnt run Sub due to the value of Explosion, it's that its Subs are broken by Seismic toss and therefore useless against Reflect Chansey.
However, its Explosion is long and far the best in the game.
again, i feel this is incorrect since Snorlax boom is stronger.
 

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i would already put in the first sentence that Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest, no drawback, physical attack in the tier, cause is such a massive selling point for the pokemon.
Added it to the end of the sentence citing its Attack.

instead of saying "forcing Hyper Beam racharges", i would say "punishing Hyper Beam recharges, specifically against Tauros".
This was misinterpreted. Rhydon takes such little damage from Hyper Beam that switching it in can easily force a Hyper Beam recharge. However, I will say the wording was poor, so I implemented a clarity edit by writing this;
such as switching in to force and punish Hyper Beam recharges
It's worth mentioning that despite Rhydon low speed, it still outspeeds Snorlax and Slowbro, meaning it can force some good damage on non reflect variants of those two pokemon.
Implemented this!

i think saying that Golem has the strongest Explosion in the game, while tecnically correct, it's misleading since Snorlax's Self-Destruct is much stronger.

Golem is not "far less bulky than Rhydon", it's just worse againts Seismic toss due to lower base HP, which translates in getting 4HKoed by Reflect Chansey instead of 5HKoed, also doesnt have access to 101HP Substitutes like you said, which are the key for Rhydon's success in beating a paralized Reflect Chansey.

It's not that Golem doesnt run Sub due to the value of Explosion, it's that its Subs are broken by Seismic toss and therefore useless against Reflect Chansey.
I made a bunch of alterations here;
  • Clarified it's second to Snorlax in the boom department
  • Changed the wording on bulk to specifically target HP, applying it to the Chansey matchup.
  • Removed the bit about it not being able to run sub
I also explained how Golem's reward for the higher speed only helps against Rhydon specifically, since just saying "little reward" doesn't mean much.
 
Really solid analysis, just a few nitpicks:
1. When you speak about the advantages of Substitute, mention how it can be used against paralysed pokemon (really relevant in the paralysed Starmie matchup for instance)
2. After pointing out the benefits of Rhydon, explain its drawbacks more, mainly that it usually loses the 1v1 against most pokemon if neither one is paralysed and that switching it in can prediction reliant as a lot of pokemon threaten it heavily ("can be difficult to get in")
3. I also think RS is the most droppable move but maybe we should ask a few more RBYers what they think. I believe there could be made a case for Body Slam as well.
4. I don't think Rest is necessarily used to handle the electrics more reliably. I'd say it's more for being able to be more aggressive with Don against ReflectChansey and mono normal variants of Snorlax against which you otherwise often wouldn't want to risk a Body Slam paralysis on the switch.
5. Bubble Beam is quite gimmicky and that should be more clear I think
 

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Really solid analysis, just a few nitpicks:
1. When you speak about the advantages of Substitute, mention how it can be used against paralysed pokemon (really relevant in the paralysed Starmie matchup for instance)
2. After pointing out the benefits of Rhydon, explain its drawbacks more, mainly that it usually loses the 1v1 against most pokemon if neither one is paralysed and that switching it in can prediction reliant as a lot of pokemon threaten it heavily ("can be difficult to get in")
3. I also think RS is the most droppable move but maybe we should ask a few more RBYers what they think. I believe there could be made a case for Body Slam as well.
4. I don't think Rest is necessarily used to handle the electrics more reliably. I'd say it's more for being able to be more aggressive with Don against ReflectChansey and mono normal variants of Snorlax against which you otherwise often wouldn't want to risk a Body Slam paralysis on the switch.
5. Bubble Beam is quite gimmicky and that should be more clear I think
Implemented these, thank you so much! All very good points.

For #3, I added some notes on it at the tail-end of explaining the idea of dropping Rock Slide.
 

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[OVERVIEW]
Rhydon possesses a very important place in the RBY OU metagame, thanks to a fairly unique typing and formidable Attack stat; its Earthquake is the most powerful physical attack in the game without a drawback. Rhydon's typing gives it a good amount of defensive utility;, such as switching in to force and punish Hyper Beam recharges, taking Explosions, staving off Thunder Wave, and stonewalling Zapdos and Jolteon. Thanks to the sheer Attack stat it has, itRhydon can hit very high damage ranges, the most notable being a guaranteed 2HKO on Chansey. It's also capable of KOing Tauros after 2two Body Slams from other Tauros. This power makes it very difficult to switch into, with would-be checks such as Exeggutor taking surprising damage. While initially slow, Rhydon is also a very scary fopponent for paralyzed teams to fight, often folding to it outright by virtue of its immense power. Naturally, this also means it appreciates paralysis support from teammates, such as Chansey. It can still outspeed Slowbro and Snorlax, however, allowing it to force damage on non-Reflect variants of the two.

Golem has competed with Rhydon for a place on teams for many years. This is primarily due to the fact that it has the second-strongest Explosion in the game, only beaten by Snorlax, along with higher Speed to win against Rhydon specifically. However, its low HP leaves it without access to 101-HP Substitutes. This makes it significantly worse against Chansey, as they will break against its Seismic Toss. It also has little reward for the increased Speed, only gaining the ability to outrun Rhydon. The lower damage output also causes itGolem to lose out on some very valuable ranges, notably losing to the aforementioned Reflect Chansey more often than not, whoich Rhydon excels against. Due to these factors, Rhydon is generally favoured over Golem in the OU metagame.

[SET]
name: Standard
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Rock Slide
move 3: Body Slam
move 4: Substitute

This is the set one should expect when seeing Rhydon. Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest physical move in the game with no drawbacks, hitting anything that doesn't resist it extremely hard. Rock Slide is mostly used for Zapdos and for hitting Pokemon such as Exeggutor, Cloyster, (AC) and Lapras harder. Body Slam is extremely valuable for Rhydon's success, as it allows itRhydon to generate its own paralysis support against the likes of Exeggutor, Starmie, Alakazam or, (AC) and Lapras. Substitute is a complex move on Rhydon's moveset and one that is generally hard for inexperienced players to understand the true potential of, but it can single-handedly win games - &mdash;its ability to create a 103-HP (hyphen between 103 and HP) Substitute means that they can't be broken by Seismic Toss Chansey, which gives Rhydon the edge on the 1v1 against it. It also means it can create sone-on-one against it. This also means that Rhydon can create Substitutes versus Pokemon that can't significantly damage it -, (AC) such as Zapdos and Jolteon, giving it a free hit against whatever comes in afterwards, which can either instantly mean a win for the Rhydon user or at least deal a huge chunk of damage to somethinga replacement like Tauros. Substitute is also extremely helpful against paralyzed Starmie, giving Rhydon time to fish for full paralysis to stay in. Rhydon can then go for the uncommon 2HKO with Earthquake or even a possible OHKO with a critical hit. Should Starmie be paralyzed by Body Slam switching in, Rhydon is in a very good position to go for this.

Despite being slow, it's very hard to switch into Rhydon if you lack Exeggutor, making it one of the key reasons for the latter's success in RBY OU. It's an absolute nightmare for players to deal with Rhydon if they have a paralyzed team, as Rhydon will easily rampage through it. It's a very viable strategy in RBY OU to build a team around Rhydon, providing it with the paralysis support it needs to clean up the mess. Its key immunity to electric moves - namely Thunder Wave -Electric-type moves, namely Thunder Wave, (AC) means that it's very hard to reliably paralyze Rhydon and also gives it switch-in opportunities on Pokemon such as Alakazam and Chansey. It is also the premier counter to Zapdos and Jolteon, two Pokemon that can be very dangerous in its absence - especially Zapdos - due to the few Electric resists in RBY. It&mdash;especially Zapdos&mdash;due to the few Electric-resistant Pokemon in RBY. Rhydon also resists Normal-type moves, which means it can switch into a predicted Explosion or Hyper Beam.

Despite all theof its advantages, Rhydon is heavily reliant on opposing Pokemon being paralyzed to get in safely. It has very poor Special; this and its typing can make it easy prey for almost every Special Aspecial attacker in the tier. As a result, Rhydon tends to struggle 1-on-1one-on-one against non-paralyzed threats, notably Tauros, Starmie, (AC) and Exeggutor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Out of all of Rhydon's moves, the most droppreplaceable would be Rock Slide. This is because the coverage provided by it is rather specific, while the other moves add key utility that is pivotal to Rhydon's success. When dropping Rock Slide, be wary of the fact that Earthquake is a 4HKO on Cloyster and a 3HKO on Lapras, and you'll have a much harder jobtime versus Moltres and Articuno, though the two legendary birds are not that common. Should these qualities be useful, however, Body Slam can be dropped instead. In this case, though, Rhydon can't set up paralysis for itself, becomingcausing it to become much more reliant on teammates. This makes matchups against threats such as Starmie noticeably worse.

Rest can be used to give Rhydon more longevity, but it's hard to wake up due to being 2HKO'ed by Tauros. It's generally used ion more defensive teams to better handle Zapdos and Jolteon throughout a game, but it does have uses outside of this. IRest can be extremely helpful against Reflect Chansey, enabling itRhydon to be more aggressive and burn free Rest turns behind Substitute. It also helps against Snorlax without coverage, as Rhydon despises being paralyzed by itSnorlax on switch-in. Another option to consider is Leer; this allows Rhydon to beat Reflect Chansey much more reliably and gives it a way to get past Reflect Snorlax. However, these Pokemon can switch out to get rid of the dDefense drops. This also gives faster Pokemon the opportunity to switch in on the Leer while taking no damage, which can give the opponent opportunities to play around Rhydon's usual onslaughtsweeping (less violent). When spamming Earthquake, on the other hand, a critical hit would ruin Reflect Chansey and Snorlax, and switching out would still likely force damage on whatever comes in. Counter can be used to more heavily punish Hyper Beam and Explosion usage, flipping the situation on the opponent. Bringing in Rhydon after an opponent's Explosion and using Counter after forcing their switch-in out can usually lead to a free KO. While gimmicky, Bubble Beam could be used for other Rhydon or Golem, (AC) which can lead to a Speed drop, guaranteeing a KO with Earthquake. It can also allow Rhydon to move first against Exeggutor on switch-in, which can allow Rhydon to situationally win the interaction should it be worn down.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

**Exeggutor**: Exeggutor is the best check for Rhydon in the game. It resists Earthquake and doesn't take much damage from Rock Slide - it', (AC) which is only a 4HKO. However, it must watch out for Body Slam. In fact, most Rhydons will use Body Slam expecting an Exeggutor switch-in, if it's still healthy. A paralyzed Exeggutor won't be able to reliably check Rhydon anymore, as two Rock Slides will deal upwards of 55% of damage to it.

**Tauros**: Tauros is only 3HKO'd by Earthquake and 2HKOs with Blizzard in return - which, added to Tauros'ed by Earthquake and can 2HKO Rhydon with Blizzard in return, (AC) which, when combined with Tauros's absurdly high critical hit rate and the threat ofchance to freeze, means that Rhydon is almost always forced to switch out, (AC) and even if it doesn't switch out, there's a respectable chance that it does absolutely nothing in return. However, Tauros doesn't appreciate being damaged, especially if the other Tauros on Rhydon's team is still at full HP. Rhydon will usually be forced out after KOing a Pokemon due to this, which gives Tauros ample opportunity to start exerting its sweeping prowess.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster is only 4HKO'd by Earthquake or 3HKO'ed by Earthquake and 3HKOed by Rock Slide, and it can OHKO a third of the time in return with Blizzard. It even packs Clamp for denying a free move to Rhydon when it's staying behind a sSubstitute, as Clamp will always break the sSubstitute and render Rhydon immobile in the process.

**Starmie, and Chansey**: These two Pokemon are able to switch in on Rhydon and duel it, but only if they are not paralyzed, and Chansey requires Reflect. Chansey is 2HKO'ed by Earthquake, and Starmie, while very rarely 2HKO'ed by Earthquake, can be paralyzed by Body Slam on the switch or on a predicted Recover, turning the tides in Rhydon's favour. The paralysis factor makes these matchups extremely variable.

**Victreebel**: Victreebel outspeeds and OHKOes Rhydon with Razor Leaf. However, it takes a huge chunk of damage from Earthquake, with a likely roll to 2HKO.

**Slowbro**: Slowbro threatens to OHKO Rhydon with Surf, and with Reflect, it can effortlessly set up Amnesia against it. Thunder Wave can also be used on a switch prediction to worsen the situation. However, it does take significant damage coming in, making it a check at best.

**Lapras, Jynx**: These thre and Jynx**: These Pokemon can OHKO Rhydon with their Ice-type moves, but they struggle to switch in because of the threat of Rock Slide, as it will almost always 2HKO Lapras and will always OHKO Jynx. Paralyzing them also turns these two Ice-type Pokemon into prey for Rhydon to feast on.

**Golem**: Golem outspeeds Rhydon and 2HKOes it with Earthquake. However, Rhydon also 2HKOs ites Golem with its own Earthquake, meaning Golem cannot switch in at all.

**Reflect Snorlax**: While Rhydon is only 3HKOed by Earthquake or Ice Beam, it struggles mightand Ice Beam, it struggles heavily when actually KOing Snorlax without critical hits Snorlax if Reflect is active. Earthquake can deal up to 38% before Reflect goes up, but after that, the damage is negligible at best. Reflect Snorlax does give Rhydon a good amount of opportunities to fish for critical hits, so this matchup can be quite volatile. Snorlax also has issues switching in, making it a check at best.
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[OVERVIEW]
Rhydon possesses a very important place in the RBY OU metagame, (RC) thanks to a fairly unique typing and formidable Attack stat; moreover, (AC) its Earthquake is the most powerful physical attack in the game without a drawback. Rhydon's typing gives it a good amount of defensive utility, (semicolon -> comma) such as switching in to force and punish Hyper Beam recharges, taking Explosions, staving off Thunder Wave, and stonewalling Zapdos and Jolteon. Thanks to the sheer immense (better word choice imo) Attack stat it has, Rhydon can hit very high damage ranges, the most notable one being a guaranteed 2HKO on Chansey. It's also capable of KOing Tauros after two Body Slams from other Tauros. This power makes it very difficult to switch into, with would-be checks such as Exeggutor taking surprising damage. While initially slow, Rhydon is also a very scary foe for paralyzed teams to fight, often folding to it outright by virtue of its immense power. Naturally, this also means it appreciates paralysis support from teammates, (RC) such as Chansey. It can still outspeed Slowbro and Snorlax, however, allowing it to force damage on non-Reflect variants of the two.

Golem has competed with Rhydon for a place on teams for many years. This is primarily due to the fact that it has the second strongest Explosion in the game, only beaten by Snorlax, along with higher Speed to win against Rhydon specifically. However, its low HP leaves it without access to 101-HP (AH) Substitutes. This makes it significantly worse against Chansey, as they will break against its Seismic Toss. It also has little reward for the increased Speed, only gaining the ability to outrun Rhydon. The lower damage output also causes Golem to lose out on some very valuable ranges, notably losing to the aforementioned Reflect Chansey more often than not, which Rhydon excels against. Due to these factors, Rhydon is generally favoured favored over Golem in the OU metagame.

[SET]
name: Standard
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Rock Slide
move 3: Body Slam
move 4: Substitute

This is the set one should expect when seeing Rhydon. Rhydon's Earthquake is the strongest physical move in the game with no drawbacks, hitting anything that doesn't resist it extremely hard. Rock Slide is mostly used for Zapdos and for hitting Pokemon such as Exeggutor, Cloyster, and Lapras harder. Body Slam is extremely valuable for Rhydon's success, as it allows Rhydon to generate its own paralysis support against the likes of Exeggutor, Starmie, Alakazam, and Lapras. Substitute is a complex move on Rhydon's moveset and one that is generally hard for inexperienced players to understand the true potential of, but it can single-handedly win games; its ability to create a 103-HP Substitute means that they can't be broken by Seismic Toss Chansey, which gives Rhydon the edge in the one-on-one against it. This also means that Rhydon can create Substitutes versus Pokemon that can't significantly damage it, such as Zapdos and Jolteon, giving it a free hit against whatever comes in afterwards, which can either instantly mean a win for the Rhydon user or dealing a huge chunk of damage to a replacement like Tauros. Substitute is also extremely helpful against paralyzed Starmie, giving Rhydon time to fish for full paralysis to stay in. Rhydon can then go for the uncommon 2HKO with Earthquake or even a possible OHKO with a critical hit. Should Starmie be paralyzed by Body Slam switching in, Rhydon is in a very good position to go for this.

Despite being slow, it's very hard to switch into Rhydon if you lack Exeggutor, making it one of the key reasons for the latter's Exeggutor's success in RBY OU. It's an absolute nightmare for players to deal with Rhydon if they have a paralyzed team, as Rhydon will easily rampage through it. It's a very viable strategy in RBY OU to build a team around Rhydon, providing it with the paralysis support it needs to clean up the mess. Its key immunity to Electric-type moves, namely Thunder Wave, means that it's very hard to reliably paralyze Rhydon and also gives it switch-in opportunities on Pokemon such as Alakazam and Chansey. It is also the premier counter to Zapdos and Jolteon, two Pokemon that can be very dangerous in its absence&mdash;especially Zapdos&mdash;due (fixed the emdash spacing) to the few Electric-resistant Pokemon in RBY OU. Rhydon also resists Normal-type moves, which means it can switch into a predicted Explosion or Hyper Beam.

Despite all of the advantages, Rhydon is heavily reliant on opposing Pokemon being paralyzed to get in safely. It has very poor Special; this and its typing can make it easy prey for almost every special attacker in the tier. As a result, Rhydon tends to struggle one-on-one against non-paralyzed threats, notably Tauros, Starmie, and Exeggutor.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Out of all of Rhydon's moves, the most replaceable would be Rock Slide. This is because the coverage provided by it is rather specific, while the other moves add key utility that is pivotal to Rhydon's success. When dropping Rock Slide, be wary of the fact that Earthquake is a 4HKO on Cloyster and a 3HKO on Lapras, and you'll have a much harder time versus Moltres and Articuno, though the two legendary birds are not that common. Should these qualities be useful, however, Body Slam can be dropped instead. In this case, though, Rhydon can't set up paralysis for itself, causing it to become much more reliant on teammates. This makes matchups against threats such as Starmie noticeably worse.

Rest can be used to give Rhydon more longevity, but it's hard to wake up due to being 2HKOed by Tauros. It's generally used on more defensive teams to better handle Zapdos and Jolteon throughout a game, but it does have uses outside of this. Rest can be extremely helpful against Reflect Chansey, enabling Rhydon to be more aggressive and burn free Rest turns behind Substitute. It also helps against Snorlax without coverage, as Rhydon despises being paralyzed by Snorlax on switch-in. Another option to consider is Leer; this allows Rhydon to beat Reflect Chansey much more reliably and gives it a way to get past Reflect Snorlax. However, these Pokemon can switch out to get rid of the Defense drops. This also gives faster Pokemon the opportunity to switch in on the Leer while taking no damage, which can give the opponent opportunities to play around Rhydon's usual sweeping. When spamming Earthquake, on the other hand, a critical hit would ruin Reflect Chansey and Snorlax, and switching out would still likely force damage on whatever comes in. Counter can be used to more heavily punish Hyper Beam and Explosion usage, flipping the situation on the opponent. Bringing in Rhydon after an opponent's Explosion and using Counter after forcing their switch-in out can usually lead to a free KO. While gimmicky, Bubble Beam could be used for other Rhydon or Golem, which can lead to a Speed drop, guaranteeing a KO with Earthquake. It can also allow Rhydon to move first against Exeggutor on switch-in, which can allow Rhydon to situationally win the interaction should it be worn down.

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]
**Exeggutor**: Exeggutor is the best check for Rhydon in the game. It resists Earthquake and doesn't take much damage from Rock Slide, which is only a 4HKO. However, it must watch out for Body Slam. In fact, most variants of Rhydons will use Body Slam expecting an Exeggutor switch-in, (RC) if it's still healthy. A paralyzed Exeggutor won't be able to reliably check Rhydon anymore, as two Rock Slides will deal upwards of 55% of damage to it.

**Tauros**: Tauros is only 3HKOed by Earthquake and can 2HKO Rhydon with Blizzard in return, which, when combined with Tauros's absurdly high critical hit rate and the chance of freeze, means that Rhydon is almost always forced out, and even if it doesn't switch out, there's a respectable chance that it does absolutely nothing in return. However, Tauros doesn't appreciate being damaged, especially if the Tauros on Rhydon's team is still at full HP. Rhydon will usually be forced out after KOing a Pokemon due to this, which gives Tauros ample opportunity to start exerting its sweeping prowess.

**Cloyster**: Cloyster is only 4HKOed by Earthquake and 3HKOed by Rock Slide, and it can OHKO a third of the time in return with Blizzard. It even packs Clamp for denying a free move to Rhydon when it's staying behind a Substitute, as Clamp will always break the Substitute and render Rhydon immobile in the process.

**Starmie and Chansey**: These two Pokemon are able to switch in on Rhydon and duel it, but only if they are not paralyzed, and Chansey requires Reflect. Chansey is 2HKOed by Earthquake, and Starmie, while very rarely 2HKOed by Earthquake, can be paralyzed by Body Slam on the switch or on a predicted Recover, turning the tides in Rhydon's favour favor. The paralysis factour factor makes these matchups extremely variable.

**Victreebel**: Victreebel outspeeds and OHKOes Rhydon with Razor Leaf. However, it takes a huge chunk of damage from Earthquake, with a likely roll to 2HKO.

**Slowbro**: Slowbro threatens to OHKO Rhydon with Surf, and with Reflect, it can effortlessly set up Amnesia against it. Thunder Wave can also be used on a switch prediction to worsen the situation. However, it does take significant damage coming in, making it a check at best.

**Lapras and Jynx**: These Pokemon can OHKO Rhydon with their Ice-type moves, but they struggle to switch in because of the threat of Rock Slide, as it will almost always 2HKO Lapras and always OHKO Jynx. Paralyzing them also turns these two Ice-type Pokemon into prey for Rhydon to feast on.

**Golem**: Golem outspeeds Rhydon and 2HKOes it with Earthquake. However, Rhydon also 2HKOes Golem with its own Earthquake, meaning Golem cannot switch in at all.

**Reflect Snorlax**: While Rhydon is only 3HKOed by Earthquake and Ice Beam, it struggles heavily when actually KOing Snorlax without critical hits if Reflect is active. Earthquake can deal up to 38% before Reflect goes up, but after that, the damage is negligible at best. Reflect Snorlax does give Rhydon a good amount of opportunities to fish for critical hits, so this matchup can be quite volatile. Snorlax also has issues switching in, making it a check at best.

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