NOC Rise of Team Galactic Mafia - OVER, Mafia Win

HydrogenHydreigon said:
ok but mechanically
it only makes sense for it to be alice
like unless maf can idle a kill for more kill??
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You are not trying to solve are you? Conveniently ignoring that 2 players have said that they can have a way to go around the roleblock, one of them being celever confirmed town. Think about it, in a game full of limitations there is a unlimited roleblock that can block kills... Surely you see that for the game to be balanced there has to be some counterplay for mafia to that in case it exists. Like miller and godfather for alignment cop.
I'm pretty sure last mafia is a 2-shot vig with self safeguard over a 2-shot vig with unlimited roleblock.

I feel like you are capable enough to realize that but choosing to ignore it.

By the way I realized neon isn't cleared anymore but you look scummier at this moment so I'll place my vote on you.

!Vote: HydrogenHydreigon
 
Alice Kazumi said:
Conveniently ignoring that 2 players have said that they can have a way to go around the roleblock
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???? where and when
Alice Kazumi said:
Think about it, in a game full of limitations there is a unlimited roleblock that can block kills... Surely you see that for the game to be balanced there has to be some counterplay for mafia to that in case it exists. Like miller and godfather for alignment cop.
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..a roleblock is like, significantly weaker than an alignment cop

Alice Kazumi said:
I feel like you are capable enough to realize that but choosing to ignore it.
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i did consider it possible and entertained the thought yesterday but once ag brought up jking you d1 i went occam's razor which i think is reasonable :blobshrug:

honestly at this point i would vote alice but will hold off to prevent a scum hammer just in case
mechanically this makes the most sense, and given alice's claim the role she is accusing me of also makes sense for her
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
???? where and when

..a roleblock is like, significantly weaker than an alignment cop


i did consider it possible and entertained the thought yesterday but once ag brought up jking you d1 i went occam's razor which i think is reasonable :blobshrug:

honestly at this point i would vote alice but will hold off to prevent a scum hammer just in case
mechanically this makes the most sense, and given alice's claim the role she is accusing me of also makes sense for her
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After you happily asked if you are cleared (You aren't). I think celever said it on 1190 and I also said it around these post or later.

Read one of the posts I made where I put the full rolelist and explain me how it makes sense for an unlimited roleblock to exist without counterplay from mafia, especially when we have a randomized joat that can also roleblock.
 
Wait ok i just had an epiphany

Alice's vote tied it yesterday, preventing.. ag, i think it was from getting voted out

Unless the vig is town or something, maf!alice would know ag dying would result in three town deaths, so it doesnt make sense for maf!alice to do that unless she thinks like 3v1 instead of 2v1 is optimal..
 
HydrogenHydreigon said:
Wait ok i just had an epiphany

Alice's vote tied it yesterday, preventing.. ag, i think it was from getting voted out

Unless the vig is town or something, maf!alice would know ag dying would result in three town deaths, so it doesnt make sense for maf!alice to do that unless she thinks like 3v1 instead of 2v1 is optimal..
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but also now this is in my brain so im just confused now
 
Let's analyze the kills :blobwizard:

AG could be mislynched, Celever probably couldn't.

If I was mafia and only had 1 kill I think popping neon's BPV and hoping for mislynches with CK role was the play but they had 2 kills.

Killing celever made sense unless he gets lucky it's a kill on someone read as town. Maybe he lied about the commute as well who knows.

AG over CK is weird, fundamentally because AG was more suspicious to most and a vanilla at that point. This either means CK is mafia or my point of RB not clearing anyone is proven. Mafia wouldn't be scared of CK at all because he is not a threat to them.

So we have 4 players and not a single one of them is cleared :eeveehide:

I think Roleblock has been proven to be true so lost mafia with unlimited roleblock and 2-shot vig seems a bit too strong for this power level.
 
So ImaginaryNeon for me to be last mafia I would have to do the following things:
- Mention characters outside the sinnoh games, tell everyone that there is a lost mafia and buss my teammate on D1 with no communication.
- Mindcontrol Town 1 shot jailkeeper into protecting me.
- Do not take part in pushing for massclaim when it would be the thing that benefits me the most. This is because it would make other players target due to better roles making more believable for everyone that I'm alive.
- I always elaborated my progressions over the 11 pages I wrote, which is something scum failed to do this game. It's not easy because you have to fake a townview while pushing an agenda.
- There had to be a solo mafia that is easily recognizable by other mafias just by asking a flavor question which doesn't make much sense as a design.
- Save AG last day.
 
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