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Jagly wins, but nothing else. Onto the next!
Similar time as usual!
NAME: Dinostone
STATS: 120/107/77/158/66/72
TYPING: Rock/Ghost
ABILITIES: Plus / --- | Early Bird
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Fake Out, Armor Cannon, Spiky Shield, Rapid Spin, Whirlwind, Bullet Punch, Hidden Power, Bitter Blade, Sticky Web, Stealth Rock, Haze, Wood Hammer, Rage Fist, Water Shuriken, Infernal Parade, Toxic
UNVIABLE MOVES: Hold Hands, Gravity, Gust, Power Trip, Dream Eater, Embargo, Breaking Swipe, Focus Energy, Meditate, Double Hit, Ion Deluge, Harden, Sunny Day, Lovely Kiss, Happy Hour, Mean Look, Bulldoze, Noble Roar, Flame Burst, Spit Up
NAME: Goosceon
STATS: 85/87/72/52/140/164
TYPING: Flying/Ghost
ABILITIES: Solid Rock / Soundproof | As One (G)
MOVES: Drill Peck, Air Slash, Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Dragon Claw, Power Whip, Secret Sword, Switcheroo, Toxic Spikes, Victory Dance, Aqua Step, Close Combat, Chloroblast, Psychic, Hyper Drill, Fleur Cannon, Scald, Fillet Away, Stone Axe, Meteor Beam
UNVIABLE MOVES: Stuff Cheeks, Powder Snow, Muddy Water, Lunar Blessing, String Shot, Hold Back, Parabolic Charge, Swift, Ion Deluge, Smog, Bulldoze, Sand Attack, Focus Energy, Scratch, Air Cutter, Psycho Shift, Trick-or-Treat, Frenzy Plant, Misty Explosion, Hail
NAME: Crocooni
STATS: 109/152/92/50/132/65
TYPING: Fire/Water
ABILITIES: Flash Fire / No Guard | Hustle
MOVES: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Waterfall, Surf, Foul Play, Eerie Spell, Techno Blast, Flash Cannon, Frustration, Fleur Cannon, Spirit Break, Drum Beating, Toxic Spikes, Rock Slide, Moonblast, Bitter Malice, Revelation Dance, Coil, Electro Drift, Aqua Tail
UNVIABLE MOVES: Steamroller, Dual Chop, Topsy-Turvy, Punishment, Sparkling Aria, Withdraw, Forest's Curse, Gear Up, Fly, Focus Energy, Venoshock, False Swipe, Misty Terrain, Horn Attack, Sunny Day, Swift, Telekinesis, Revenge, Signal Beam, Mega Kick
NAME: Omniwhale
STATS: 150/78/149/111/111/1
TYPING: Water/Psychic
ABILITIES: Contrary / Stamina | Guts
MOVES: Waterfall, Surf, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Wildbolt Storm, Moongeist Beam, Anchor Shot, Salt Cure, Bitter Blade, Sandsear Storm, Brick Break, Glaive Rush, Pain Split, Wicked Torque, Nasty Plot, Wicked Blow, Steam Eruption, Tidy Up, Shelter, Mountain Gale
UNVIABLE MOVES: Teeter Dance, Sandstorm, Blizzard, Wonder Room, Night Daze, Strength, Odor Sleuth, Screech, Laser Focus, Eerie Impulse, Blast Burn, Psychic Terrain, Pollen Puff, Iron Defense, Gravity, Flail, Sky Attack, Double Slap, Mean Look, Conversion
NAME: Baeye
STATS: 71/35/136/165/111/82
TYPING: Rock/Psychic
ABILITIES: Misty Surge / --- | As One (S)
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Armor Cannon, Autotomize, Teleport, Beak Blast, Recover, Fire Blast, Eerie Spell, Psystrike, Taunt, Flamethrower, Shadow Punch, Milk Drink, Searing Shot, Sandsear Storm, Freeze-Dry, Earthquake
UNVIABLE MOVES: Signal Beam, Infestation, Venoshock, Slam, Bone Club, Spit Up, Slash, Mega Punch, Double Hit, Grudge, Dragon Breath, Fake Tears, Take Down, Sandstorm, Heal Pulse, Solar Blade, Doodle, Speed Swap, Revenge, Supersonic
STATS: 120/107/77/158/66/72
TYPING: Rock/Ghost
ABILITIES: Plus / --- | Early Bird
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Fake Out, Armor Cannon, Spiky Shield, Rapid Spin, Whirlwind, Bullet Punch, Hidden Power, Bitter Blade, Sticky Web, Stealth Rock, Haze, Wood Hammer, Rage Fist, Water Shuriken, Infernal Parade, Toxic
UNVIABLE MOVES: Hold Hands, Gravity, Gust, Power Trip, Dream Eater, Embargo, Breaking Swipe, Focus Energy, Meditate, Double Hit, Ion Deluge, Harden, Sunny Day, Lovely Kiss, Happy Hour, Mean Look, Bulldoze, Noble Roar, Flame Burst, Spit Up
NAME: Goosceon
STATS: 85/87/72/52/140/164
TYPING: Flying/Ghost
ABILITIES: Solid Rock / Soundproof | As One (G)
MOVES: Drill Peck, Air Slash, Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Dragon Claw, Power Whip, Secret Sword, Switcheroo, Toxic Spikes, Victory Dance, Aqua Step, Close Combat, Chloroblast, Psychic, Hyper Drill, Fleur Cannon, Scald, Fillet Away, Stone Axe, Meteor Beam
UNVIABLE MOVES: Stuff Cheeks, Powder Snow, Muddy Water, Lunar Blessing, String Shot, Hold Back, Parabolic Charge, Swift, Ion Deluge, Smog, Bulldoze, Sand Attack, Focus Energy, Scratch, Air Cutter, Psycho Shift, Trick-or-Treat, Frenzy Plant, Misty Explosion, Hail
NAME: Crocooni
STATS: 109/152/92/50/132/65
TYPING: Fire/Water
ABILITIES: Flash Fire / No Guard | Hustle
MOVES: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Waterfall, Surf, Foul Play, Eerie Spell, Techno Blast, Flash Cannon, Frustration, Fleur Cannon, Spirit Break, Drum Beating, Toxic Spikes, Rock Slide, Moonblast, Bitter Malice, Revelation Dance, Coil, Electro Drift, Aqua Tail
UNVIABLE MOVES: Steamroller, Dual Chop, Topsy-Turvy, Punishment, Sparkling Aria, Withdraw, Forest's Curse, Gear Up, Fly, Focus Energy, Venoshock, False Swipe, Misty Terrain, Horn Attack, Sunny Day, Swift, Telekinesis, Revenge, Signal Beam, Mega Kick
NAME: Omniwhale
STATS: 150/78/149/111/111/1
TYPING: Water/Psychic
ABILITIES: Contrary / Stamina | Guts
MOVES: Waterfall, Surf, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Wildbolt Storm, Moongeist Beam, Anchor Shot, Salt Cure, Bitter Blade, Sandsear Storm, Brick Break, Glaive Rush, Pain Split, Wicked Torque, Nasty Plot, Wicked Blow, Steam Eruption, Tidy Up, Shelter, Mountain Gale
UNVIABLE MOVES: Teeter Dance, Sandstorm, Blizzard, Wonder Room, Night Daze, Strength, Odor Sleuth, Screech, Laser Focus, Eerie Impulse, Blast Burn, Psychic Terrain, Pollen Puff, Iron Defense, Gravity, Flail, Sky Attack, Double Slap, Mean Look, Conversion
NAME: Baeye
STATS: 71/35/136/165/111/82
TYPING: Rock/Psychic
ABILITIES: Misty Surge / --- | As One (S)
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Zen Headbutt, Psychic, Armor Cannon, Autotomize, Teleport, Beak Blast, Recover, Fire Blast, Eerie Spell, Psystrike, Taunt, Flamethrower, Shadow Punch, Milk Drink, Searing Shot, Sandsear Storm, Freeze-Dry, Earthquake
UNVIABLE MOVES: Signal Beam, Infestation, Venoshock, Slam, Bone Club, Spit Up, Slash, Mega Punch, Double Hit, Grudge, Dragon Breath, Fake Tears, Take Down, Sandstorm, Heal Pulse, Solar Blade, Doodle, Speed Swap, Revenge, Supersonic
Stunking no.......
You losers, that was probably our only chance at a somewhat ok Shell Smasher
I have little knowledge of what the meta is so here are my thoughts
Dinostone - Rage Fist peak! Rock Ghost is Avery crappy defensive typing, and it's bulk is mid and it's speed low. But between enough Attack to make Rage Fist a real deal, and a sweet 158 SpA, it's definitely a fun type of slow breaker to run, if you want. Having both Rocks and Webs gives it something to actually do outside of clicking STABs as well. Also, no way to boost stats either bulk or attack wise but Early Bird Rest + Rage Fist is probably legit way to snowball with this mon.
Getting my vote fr.
Goosceon - Weird mon. Gets all the cool set moves in the world but 83 Atk and no STAB that clocks above 90 BP kills it's chance at viability. Stone Axe suicide lead sets could be a thing, but idk it seems pretty shoddy.
Skipping this thing.
Crocooni - Hustle Coil. I am unaware of the state of physical walls in the metagame, but Hustle Coil seems cool, while being largely kept in check by it's weaker STAB options. Unfortunately Water Fire dual STABs with Drum Beating can get past alot of options in most traditional metas so if more educated persons can inform me that would be cool, and depending on the meta something to look out for.
Jury is out on this.
Omniwhale - Stamina is INSANE but ist only recovery is 150 base HP Apin Split and RestTalk sets. Quite frankly though this seems like enough to level a metagame especially since it gets the forever potent progress making move Salt Cure. As much as I adore the concept of an almighty GOD Whale I think fot the greater good this probably has to go.
Skipping over this.
Baeye - This is cool, another somewhat slow special Rock type, but this comes with special Moxie! And also Misty Terrain, but special Moxie! This thing has the perfect offensive movepool between Nasty Plot or Autotomize, Taunt, Recover, big STAB Psystrike and great coverage options. Again idk if this is broken the way Crocooni is potentially, but I think on principle of typing this has a lower ceiling on the potentially cracked in a vacuum rankings, so I will be more likely to vote this in.
Getting my vote.
Nice slate, great if your a Dark type.
You losers, that was probably our only chance at a somewhat ok Shell Smasher
I have little knowledge of what the meta is so here are my thoughts
Dinostone - Rage Fist peak! Rock Ghost is Avery crappy defensive typing, and it's bulk is mid and it's speed low. But between enough Attack to make Rage Fist a real deal, and a sweet 158 SpA, it's definitely a fun type of slow breaker to run, if you want. Having both Rocks and Webs gives it something to actually do outside of clicking STABs as well. Also, no way to boost stats either bulk or attack wise but Early Bird Rest + Rage Fist is probably legit way to snowball with this mon.
Getting my vote fr.
Goosceon - Weird mon. Gets all the cool set moves in the world but 83 Atk and no STAB that clocks above 90 BP kills it's chance at viability. Stone Axe suicide lead sets could be a thing, but idk it seems pretty shoddy.
Skipping this thing.
Crocooni - Hustle Coil. I am unaware of the state of physical walls in the metagame, but Hustle Coil seems cool, while being largely kept in check by it's weaker STAB options. Unfortunately Water Fire dual STABs with Drum Beating can get past alot of options in most traditional metas so if more educated persons can inform me that would be cool, and depending on the meta something to look out for.
Jury is out on this.
Omniwhale - Stamina is INSANE but ist only recovery is 150 base HP Apin Split and RestTalk sets. Quite frankly though this seems like enough to level a metagame especially since it gets the forever potent progress making move Salt Cure. As much as I adore the concept of an almighty GOD Whale I think fot the greater good this probably has to go.
Skipping over this.
Baeye - This is cool, another somewhat slow special Rock type, but this comes with special Moxie! And also Misty Terrain, but special Moxie! This thing has the perfect offensive movepool between Nasty Plot or Autotomize, Taunt, Recover, big STAB Psystrike and great coverage options. Again idk if this is broken the way Crocooni is potentially, but I think on principle of typing this has a lower ceiling on the potentially cracked in a vacuum rankings, so I will be more likely to vote this in.
Getting my vote.
Nice slate, great if your a Dark type.
Dinostone: Okay I PROMISE that it's a coincidence that this thing happens immediately after I sprite a stone dinosaur Pokemon... Anyways, this thing is pretty cool but I don't think it'll be good enough to have a place here. The current meta is just extremely hostile towards this thing. It's actually slower than every relevant Pokemon and most of those are capable of hitting it super effectively. Really is a shame because this thing just has a boatload of cool options that would be very useful on something similar if it wasn't held down by such a poor defensive typing. Like imagine if this was Steel/Ghost for example. This thing has Rapid Spin, Stealth Rock, Water Shuriken, Infernal Parade, and maybe even something like Toxic, and it'd not only be a way better abuser of those moves in general if it had that typing but it'd actually be able to switch into stuff and would have a place here. Maybe it'd answer Pengite and Fierutor okay but I'm not convinced of those being amazing just yet. Unfortunately I think it's a bit underpowered here, if some competent Pokemon get in that this thing ends up answering then I'd love to have it but now wasn't the time.
Goosceon: A bit too weak to do much outside of maybe stuffing out some specially offensive stuff but it's going to be horrible to play into balance teams because it doesn't have much it can do into our fatmons. Fillet Away would maybe be cool if this wasn't weak to Rocks but that would still probably be too weak to make that work. I'm sure some of you remember my friend Sceon, he joined both Duomod tournaments, so this name was at least a pretty funny one to get in the generator.
Crocooni:
Omniwhale:
Baeye: Why couldn't this have had all of Dinostone's cool utility options?! Anyways the bulk on this thing is a bit better and I kinda like its offensive typing here even if it's arguably worse, Stunecko, Hunttar and Eleitan have shown to be pretty popular and this answers those decently in addition to the mons I mentioned for Dinostone. Considering how prominent those three are shaping up to be, that's kind of a big deal. It's not going to be a hard counter to any of them but it checks them well enough, and that's the kind of thing a slower breaker appreciates being able to do. Those ability options are pretty sick too, As One S compliments Autotomize very nicely and Misty Surge goes without saying. Should be a cool addition, and there's like no way this thing ends up broken.
Goosceon: A bit too weak to do much outside of maybe stuffing out some specially offensive stuff but it's going to be horrible to play into balance teams because it doesn't have much it can do into our fatmons. Fillet Away would maybe be cool if this wasn't weak to Rocks but that would still probably be too weak to make that work. I'm sure some of you remember my friend Sceon, he joined both Duomod tournaments, so this name was at least a pretty funny one to get in the generator.
Crocooni:
Omniwhale:
Baeye: Why couldn't this have had all of Dinostone's cool utility options?! Anyways the bulk on this thing is a bit better and I kinda like its offensive typing here even if it's arguably worse, Stunecko, Hunttar and Eleitan have shown to be pretty popular and this answers those decently in addition to the mons I mentioned for Dinostone. Considering how prominent those three are shaping up to be, that's kind of a big deal. It's not going to be a hard counter to any of them but it checks them well enough, and that's the kind of thing a slower breaker appreciates being able to do. Those ability options are pretty sick too, As One S compliments Autotomize very nicely and Misty Surge goes without saying. Should be a cool addition, and there's like no way this thing ends up broken.
ok sorry i had to post those images lmao
Crocooni: On top of having a respectable defensive typing and very good bulk, the meta is absolutely not equipped to handle this thing defensively. Blaze Kick and Waterfall hit ridiculously hard from this even if it opts to run Boots, and just when you think you can bring your Bellena out against it, it clicks Spirit Break and your balls disintegrate. That move also happens to hit Slowghast by the way. Coil is also going to be unreasonably easy to boost with for something this strong. I would advise against voting for this thing.
Omniwhale: LMAO WE GOT SOMETHING WITH A BASE 1 STAT. This Pokemon is so well-optimized it's not even funny. Stamina with those stats would let it completely stuff out so many physically-offensive Pokemon while boosting in their face with Nasty Plot and threatening to burn them, it has coverage that looks like maybe it won't match up well into some Grasses until you realize that Blizzard could reasonably be used here, special bulk that is more than enough to make you question how this is mainly a physically bulky Pokemon and then it has Salt Cure and Tidy Up for good measure. And how did this thing somehow get STAB Steam Eruption too, of all things?! Just imagine if it got Psycho Boost. This thing is obviously pretty broken, I don't think I needed to say any of this but this thing just seems like a headache to take down and a way of guaranteeing progress.
Crocooni: On top of having a respectable defensive typing and very good bulk, the meta is absolutely not equipped to handle this thing defensively. Blaze Kick and Waterfall hit ridiculously hard from this even if it opts to run Boots, and just when you think you can bring your Bellena out against it, it clicks Spirit Break and your balls disintegrate. That move also happens to hit Slowghast by the way. Coil is also going to be unreasonably easy to boost with for something this strong. I would advise against voting for this thing.
Omniwhale: LMAO WE GOT SOMETHING WITH A BASE 1 STAT. This Pokemon is so well-optimized it's not even funny. Stamina with those stats would let it completely stuff out so many physically-offensive Pokemon while boosting in their face with Nasty Plot and threatening to burn them, it has coverage that looks like maybe it won't match up well into some Grasses until you realize that Blizzard could reasonably be used here, special bulk that is more than enough to make you question how this is mainly a physically bulky Pokemon and then it has Salt Cure and Tidy Up for good measure. And how did this thing somehow get STAB Steam Eruption too, of all things?! Just imagine if it got Psycho Boost. This thing is obviously pretty broken, I don't think I needed to say any of this but this thing just seems like a headache to take down and a way of guaranteeing progress.
Dinostone: Yes
Goosceon: Yes
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Goosceon: Yes
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
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I COULD BE BANNED!
Dinostone: Yes
Goosceon: Abstain
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Goosceon: Abstain
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Dinostone: Yes
Goosceon: No
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Goosceon: No
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
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Dinostone: Yes
Goosceon: Yes
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Goosceon: Yes
Crocooni: No
Omniwhale: No
Baeye: Yes
Alright, the winners for this slate are Dinostone, Goosceon, and Baeye. Gonna be honest, don't understand why this of all slates is the one where we've gotten the most winners since the first slate, especially with two of them being fairly redundant...but I won't complain, at least we got the three that we did and not Crocooni or Omniwhale. Spreadsheet will be updated tomorrow!
Similar amount of time as usual!
NAME: Fearwhale
STATS: 125/145/140/62/48/80
TYPING: Dark
ABILITIES: Solid Rock / Bulletproof | Poison Touch
MOVES: Crunch, Dark Pulse, Dragon Energy, Lava Plume, Overheat, Toxic, Close Combat, Roost, Belly Drum, Stone Edge, Psystrike, Flare Blitz, Teleport, Focus Punch, Seed Flare, Petal Blizzard, Headlong Rush, Flip Turn, Healing Wish, Wicked Torque
UNVIABLE MOVES: Confusion, Vice Grip, Attract, Teatime, Sing, Misty Terrain, Harden, Mind Reader, Trop Kick, Astonish, Mirror Shot, Flatter, Poison Tail, Dragon Rage, Dual Chop, Conversion, Raging Bull, Synchronoise, Water Gun, Magnet Rise
NAME: Geistqueen
STATS: 70/38/160/91/176/65
TYPING: Ghost/Ground
ABILITIES: Seed Sower / Heatproof | Refrigerate
MOVES: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Earthquake, Earth Power, Drum Beating, Meteor Mash, Wicked Torque, Close Combat, Encore, Corrosive Gas, Psyblade, Gigaton Hammer, Bug Buzz, Wicked Blow, Shadow Sneak, Mortal Spin, Yawn, Fishious Rend, Perish Song, Swords Dance
UNVIABLE MOVES: Flame Burst, Electrify, Infestation, Lock-On, Power Trick, Terrain Pulse, Confide, Dragon Rush, Assurance, Bubble, Flame Charge, Supersonic, Magnitude, Glaciate, Leer, Skull Bash, Dark Void, Recycle, Barrier, Poison Gas
NAME: Bellchomp
STATS: 136/154/58/163/33/56
TYPING: Steel
ABILITIES: Wind Power / Guard Dog | Steelworker
MOVES: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Lunge, No Retreat, Last Resort, Soft-Boiled, Overdrive, Leech Life, Clear Smog, Explosion, Focus Blast, Will-o-Wisp, Triple Dive, Seed Flare, Dual Wingbeat, Hammer Arm, Snipe Shot, Refresh, Double-Edge, Double Shock
UNVIABLE MOVES: Razor Wind, Twin Beam, Rolling Kick, Frenzy Plant, Sparkling Aria, Snap Trap, Camouflage, Scratch, Grassy Glide, Quick Guard, Parabolic Charge, Dynamic Punch, Trop Kick, Soak, Rock Throw, Phantom Force, Hold Hands, Pound, Conversion 2, Poison Gas
NAME: Dinoleon
STATS: 125/99/129/54/153/40
TYPING: Dragon
ABILITIES: Transistor / Tinted Lens | Parental Bond
MOVES: Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Morning Sun, Autotomize, Axe Kick, Moonlight, Flare Blitz, Coil, Acid Spray, Behemoth Bash, Quick Attack, Earthquake, Shell Smash, Aqua Step, Meteor Mash, Bolt Beak, Last Resort, Volt Switch, Dragon Dance, Geomancy
UNVIABLE MOVES: Poison Powder, Mega Punch, Doodle, Karate Chop, Leaf Tornado, Rising Voltage, Fire Pledge, Natural Gift, Power Split, Astonish, Psych Up, Giga Impact, Bestow, Crush Grip, Electro Ball, Hold Back, Bulldoze, Flower Shield, Misty Terrain, Metal Burst
NAME: Eggfin
STATS: 92/125/70/130/32/151
TYPING: Poison/Water
ABILITIES: Intrepid Sword / Magic Guard | Light Metal
MOVES: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Waterfall, Surf, Strange Steam, Teleport, Grass Knot, Spiky Shield, Superpower, Super Fang, Heat Wave, Spikes, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Eerie Spell, Stone Axe, Steam Eruption, Gunk Shot, Fiery Wrath, Core Enforcer
UNVIABLE MOVES: Harden, Helping Hand, Life Dew, Sand Attack, Dive, Icy Wind, Heat Crash, Guard Split, Heart Stamp, Jump Kick, Follow Me, Inferno, String Shot, Arm Thrust, Burning Jealousy, Branch Poke, Vital Throw, Celebrate, Covet, Camouflage
STATS: 125/145/140/62/48/80
TYPING: Dark
ABILITIES: Solid Rock / Bulletproof | Poison Touch
MOVES: Crunch, Dark Pulse, Dragon Energy, Lava Plume, Overheat, Toxic, Close Combat, Roost, Belly Drum, Stone Edge, Psystrike, Flare Blitz, Teleport, Focus Punch, Seed Flare, Petal Blizzard, Headlong Rush, Flip Turn, Healing Wish, Wicked Torque
UNVIABLE MOVES: Confusion, Vice Grip, Attract, Teatime, Sing, Misty Terrain, Harden, Mind Reader, Trop Kick, Astonish, Mirror Shot, Flatter, Poison Tail, Dragon Rage, Dual Chop, Conversion, Raging Bull, Synchronoise, Water Gun, Magnet Rise
NAME: Geistqueen
STATS: 70/38/160/91/176/65
TYPING: Ghost/Ground
ABILITIES: Seed Sower / Heatproof | Refrigerate
MOVES: Shadow Bone, Shadow Ball, Earthquake, Earth Power, Drum Beating, Meteor Mash, Wicked Torque, Close Combat, Encore, Corrosive Gas, Psyblade, Gigaton Hammer, Bug Buzz, Wicked Blow, Shadow Sneak, Mortal Spin, Yawn, Fishious Rend, Perish Song, Swords Dance
UNVIABLE MOVES: Flame Burst, Electrify, Infestation, Lock-On, Power Trick, Terrain Pulse, Confide, Dragon Rush, Assurance, Bubble, Flame Charge, Supersonic, Magnitude, Glaciate, Leer, Skull Bash, Dark Void, Recycle, Barrier, Poison Gas
NAME: Bellchomp
STATS: 136/154/58/163/33/56
TYPING: Steel
ABILITIES: Wind Power / Guard Dog | Steelworker
MOVES: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Lunge, No Retreat, Last Resort, Soft-Boiled, Overdrive, Leech Life, Clear Smog, Explosion, Focus Blast, Will-o-Wisp, Triple Dive, Seed Flare, Dual Wingbeat, Hammer Arm, Snipe Shot, Refresh, Double-Edge, Double Shock
UNVIABLE MOVES: Razor Wind, Twin Beam, Rolling Kick, Frenzy Plant, Sparkling Aria, Snap Trap, Camouflage, Scratch, Grassy Glide, Quick Guard, Parabolic Charge, Dynamic Punch, Trop Kick, Soak, Rock Throw, Phantom Force, Hold Hands, Pound, Conversion 2, Poison Gas
NAME: Dinoleon
STATS: 125/99/129/54/153/40
TYPING: Dragon
ABILITIES: Transistor / Tinted Lens | Parental Bond
MOVES: Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Morning Sun, Autotomize, Axe Kick, Moonlight, Flare Blitz, Coil, Acid Spray, Behemoth Bash, Quick Attack, Earthquake, Shell Smash, Aqua Step, Meteor Mash, Bolt Beak, Last Resort, Volt Switch, Dragon Dance, Geomancy
UNVIABLE MOVES: Poison Powder, Mega Punch, Doodle, Karate Chop, Leaf Tornado, Rising Voltage, Fire Pledge, Natural Gift, Power Split, Astonish, Psych Up, Giga Impact, Bestow, Crush Grip, Electro Ball, Hold Back, Bulldoze, Flower Shield, Misty Terrain, Metal Burst
NAME: Eggfin
STATS: 92/125/70/130/32/151
TYPING: Poison/Water
ABILITIES: Intrepid Sword / Magic Guard | Light Metal
MOVES: Poison Jab, Sludge Bomb, Waterfall, Surf, Strange Steam, Teleport, Grass Knot, Spiky Shield, Superpower, Super Fang, Heat Wave, Spikes, Moonblast, Dazzling Gleam, Eerie Spell, Stone Axe, Steam Eruption, Gunk Shot, Fiery Wrath, Core Enforcer
UNVIABLE MOVES: Harden, Helping Hand, Life Dew, Sand Attack, Dive, Icy Wind, Heat Crash, Guard Split, Heart Stamp, Jump Kick, Follow Me, Inferno, String Shot, Arm Thrust, Burning Jealousy, Branch Poke, Vital Throw, Celebrate, Covet, Camouflage
Fearwhale: Not sure how to feel about this. We already have several fat Darks, and this one has useful defensive abilities in Solid Rock and Bulletproof. Has neat options in Teleport, Toxic and Healing Wish, recovery in Roost and pivoting in Flip turn, while also having a good movepool and Belly Drum. It can probably invest in defenses instead of attack for BD sets due to its already high attack. Wouldn't mind if this doesn't get in.
Geistqueen: Bulky mon with hazard control in Mortal Spin. Doesn't offer much else, though Grassy Terrain Terrain Pulse could be cool.
Bellchomp: Another fat steel, this one with the highest attacking stats thus far while also having Steelworker to further boost STAB. Gets No Retreat, but its kind of slow to abuse it. Probably pass.
Dinoleon: 40 Speed and 99 Atk doesn't seem to oppressive for a Shell Smasher, but it'll probably eat bulky mons alive with Transistor Bolt Beaks or Parental Bond hits. Also kind of bulky to begin with. Might be too much.
Eggfin: The randomizer somehow spit-out Poison/Water Zacian. Water and Poison STAB pretty much hits everything except itself neutrally. If you can somehow force it out it'll be much manageable, but that's easier said than done. Looks like it's also too much.
Geistqueen: Bulky mon with hazard control in Mortal Spin. Doesn't offer much else, though Grassy Terrain Terrain Pulse could be cool.
Bellchomp: Another fat steel, this one with the highest attacking stats thus far while also having Steelworker to further boost STAB. Gets No Retreat, but its kind of slow to abuse it. Probably pass.
Dinoleon: 40 Speed and 99 Atk doesn't seem to oppressive for a Shell Smasher, but it'll probably eat bulky mons alive with Transistor Bolt Beaks or Parental Bond hits. Also kind of bulky to begin with. Might be too much.
Eggfin: The randomizer somehow spit-out Poison/Water Zacian. Water and Poison STAB pretty much hits everything except itself neutrally. If you can somehow force it out it'll be much manageable, but that's easier said than done. Looks like it's also too much.
Fearwhale: I'd bet this thing is named "Fearwhale" for fearing Omniwhale from last slate... The obvious comparison here is to Slowghast, and this thing has substantially more bulk than that but at the cost of a much worse typing. That typing is backed by Solid Rock but it's still not great to go from being neutral against U-Turn and Fighting moves to weak to them. It lacks the same utility as Slowghast but does have Toxic and Flip Turn and will be a fair bit more threatening offensively. I still don't think we should have something that compares so strongly to one of the best Pokemon in the meta, especially one with such strong potential defensively, but I could see someone arguing otherwise.
Geistqueen: Wow. Another case of a really interesting Pokemon that just does not fit the current meta. We'd have three fat Ghosts if this thing got accepted, and if anything I think we should be shooting for fatmons with better typings before we add stuff like this. Seed Sower on something with such naturally high bulk is really cool though, especially alongside stuff like Infestation, Mortal Spin, and Corrosive Gas to help pile on chip damage. Probably not how you'd run this Pokemon but the idea sounds fun. I'd be voting no but with tears in my eyes.
Bellchomp: I really do not like how strong this thing is lmao. You guys know how dumb Regieleki could be before the nerf with Transistor STABs and this has a significantly higher Sp. Atk and a pretty good defensive typing. I feel like it has enough special coverage to get by too and is capable of running mixed sets to hit the more stat stick sort of mons. Big pass from me.
Dinoleon: Would first like to mention for those unaware - Transistor was found to have been nerfed in Gen 9 to only boost by 1.3x. Anyways, here's another one of those big fat stat stick Pokemon at a glance but looking at the movepool reveals what it actually does. This thing is actually meant to boost a few times with Coil and use its natural bulk to become a giant tank that's impossible to take down as it ravages your team. I know that Slowghast answers this but we shouldn't enforce it on teams with something like this. Otherwise it seems difficult to think of actual solid counterplay for this.
Eggfin: I thought this thing looked kinda interesting and then yikes, Intrepid Sword. I haven't checked everything but this thing likely 2HKOs the entire metagame with Intrepid Sword's help, and although it does miss out on Slowghast and Radimite it isn't too bad for it to slot Steam Eruption even on physical sets because that does 2HKO Slowghast (+ presumably Radimite) with Life Orb even if you run Jolly. Flinch chance with Waterfall also would ruin both of those as consistent answers if you think that's not a strong argument. This also would leave you with an additional slot if you wanted it for anything. Maybe like Substitute to ease prediction? I don't see this as a good idea at all.
So five hard nos from me. Kind of a shame.
Geistqueen: Wow. Another case of a really interesting Pokemon that just does not fit the current meta. We'd have three fat Ghosts if this thing got accepted, and if anything I think we should be shooting for fatmons with better typings before we add stuff like this. Seed Sower on something with such naturally high bulk is really cool though, especially alongside stuff like Infestation, Mortal Spin, and Corrosive Gas to help pile on chip damage. Probably not how you'd run this Pokemon but the idea sounds fun. I'd be voting no but with tears in my eyes.
Bellchomp: I really do not like how strong this thing is lmao. You guys know how dumb Regieleki could be before the nerf with Transistor STABs and this has a significantly higher Sp. Atk and a pretty good defensive typing. I feel like it has enough special coverage to get by too and is capable of running mixed sets to hit the more stat stick sort of mons. Big pass from me.
Dinoleon: Would first like to mention for those unaware - Transistor was found to have been nerfed in Gen 9 to only boost by 1.3x. Anyways, here's another one of those big fat stat stick Pokemon at a glance but looking at the movepool reveals what it actually does. This thing is actually meant to boost a few times with Coil and use its natural bulk to become a giant tank that's impossible to take down as it ravages your team. I know that Slowghast answers this but we shouldn't enforce it on teams with something like this. Otherwise it seems difficult to think of actual solid counterplay for this.
Eggfin: I thought this thing looked kinda interesting and then yikes, Intrepid Sword. I haven't checked everything but this thing likely 2HKOs the entire metagame with Intrepid Sword's help, and although it does miss out on Slowghast and Radimite it isn't too bad for it to slot Steam Eruption even on physical sets because that does 2HKO Slowghast (+ presumably Radimite) with Life Orb even if you run Jolly. Flinch chance with Waterfall also would ruin both of those as consistent answers if you think that's not a strong argument. This also would leave you with an additional slot if you wanted it for anything. Maybe like Substitute to ease prediction? I don't see this as a good idea at all.
So five hard nos from me. Kind of a shame.
Fearwhale: Probably my favorite of the bunch, since we don't have many pivots. Poison Touch and Solid Rock both work here. Close Combat / Headlong Rush / Flare Blitz is pretty cool for coverage, with them all doing the same damage as Crunch. I could see it as a Choice Band user even. We do have two other physically-oriented mono Dark types, though, and several pokemon with giant PhysDef, so it does feel a bit redundant. If it ends up being more offensive it might be cool, though.
Geistqueen: Honestly the moveset would be fun if the bulk wasn't quite so exaggerated. Perish Trap in addition to everything else means there aren't as many safe switch-ins and you'd think until you know the set. Seed Sower sort of makes it's goal of dealing chip damage harder, but Heatproof really isn't bad either if you're trying to do Infestation + Mortal Spin. Most sets will probably just do Earth Power / Mortal Spin / Protect / Filler with Seed Sower. Just seems too bulky and annoying, and as DuoM2 mentioned, we have multiple other bulky ghosts already.
Bellchomp: It hits insanely hard, and while it's special bulk is really bad, its physical bulk is enough to come in on defensive pokemon. This could potentially rip apart balance teams with the only competent switch-ins being Stunecko or maybe Dinolotl. That said, if you figure out the set, a few other Steel resists can probably work, and the low Spe and special bulk will hurt it a lot. I'd be on the fence about it, except we have two other mono Steel types in the tier already.
Dinoleon: This is just too bulky with good defensive typing and recovery; even if Transistor / Bolt Beak doesn't work out, it has Parental Bond and great coverage with which to use Dragon Dance, Coil, or Shell Smash. Honestly even just being this fat and having slow Volt Switch sounds annoying. At least it doesn't have hazards/removal, but I still think it's too fat.
Eggfin: Very broken. I'm not even convinced I'd run Intrepid Sword, as Magic Guard + Life Orb with Steam Eruption would mow everything down without the limitation of only activating once. Steam Eruption / Sludge Bomb / Heat Wave / Superpower or something similar would be insane.
Geistqueen: Honestly the moveset would be fun if the bulk wasn't quite so exaggerated. Perish Trap in addition to everything else means there aren't as many safe switch-ins and you'd think until you know the set. Seed Sower sort of makes it's goal of dealing chip damage harder, but Heatproof really isn't bad either if you're trying to do Infestation + Mortal Spin. Most sets will probably just do Earth Power / Mortal Spin / Protect / Filler with Seed Sower. Just seems too bulky and annoying, and as DuoM2 mentioned, we have multiple other bulky ghosts already.
Bellchomp: It hits insanely hard, and while it's special bulk is really bad, its physical bulk is enough to come in on defensive pokemon. This could potentially rip apart balance teams with the only competent switch-ins being Stunecko or maybe Dinolotl. That said, if you figure out the set, a few other Steel resists can probably work, and the low Spe and special bulk will hurt it a lot. I'd be on the fence about it, except we have two other mono Steel types in the tier already.
Dinoleon: This is just too bulky with good defensive typing and recovery; even if Transistor / Bolt Beak doesn't work out, it has Parental Bond and great coverage with which to use Dragon Dance, Coil, or Shell Smash. Honestly even just being this fat and having slow Volt Switch sounds annoying. At least it doesn't have hazards/removal, but I still think it's too fat.
Eggfin: Very broken. I'm not even convinced I'd run Intrepid Sword, as Magic Guard + Life Orb with Steam Eruption would mow everything down without the limitation of only activating once. Steam Eruption / Sludge Bomb / Heat Wave / Superpower or something similar would be insane.
Fearwhale: No
Geistqueen: No
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: Yes
Geistqueen: No
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: Yes
Fearwhale: No
Geistqueen: Abstain
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: No
Geistqueen: Abstain
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: No
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Fearwhale: No
Geistqueen: No
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: No
Geistqueen: No
Bellchomp: No
Dinoleon: No
Eggfin: No
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NAME: Specifist
STATS: 117/38/33/150/137/125
TYPING: Electric/Fighting
ABILITIES: Anger Point / --- | Sheer Force
MOVES: Zing Zap, Thunderbolt, Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Last Resort, Snipe Shot, Photon Geyser, Volt Tackle, Drum Beating, Wild Charge, Octolock, Yawn, Spacial Rend, Healing Wish, Magma Storm, Grav Apple, Quick Attack, Morning Sun, Jet Punch, Magical Torque
UNVIABLE MOVES: Smack Down, Heart Stamp, Land's Wrath, Kinesis, Happy Hour, Jump Kick, Bone Club, Iron Defense, Trop Kick, Rock Throw, Mean Look, Cotton Spore, Eerie Impulse, Night Daze, Mind Reader, Silver Wind, Poison Fang, Dragon Rage, Transform, Hyperspace Fury
NAME: Wallashore
STATS: 87/97/140/110/85/81
TYPING: Water/Fighting
ABILITIES: Merciless / Fluffy | Electromorphosis
MOVES: Waterfall, Surf, Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Hidden Power, Water Shuriken, Yawn, Seismic Toss, Megahorn, Aqua Jet, High Jump Kick, Spectral Thief, High Horsepower, Curse, Thunderous Kick, Rage Fist, Geomancy, Light Screen, Scale Shot, Electro Drift
UNVIABLE MOVES: Powder, Misty Explosion, Twin Beam, Guard Swap, Smart Strike, Celebrate, Conversion, Cut, Howl, Blizzard, Eerie Impulse, Dynamic Punch, Follow Me, Hyper Beam, Branch Poke, Submission, Chip Away, Grass Pledge, Headbutt, Secret Power
NAME: Radiblade
STATS: 118/74/127/122/32/127
TYPING: Fire
ABILITIES: Frisk / Fairy Aura | Moxie
MOVES: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Surging Strikes, Aqua Jet, V-Create, Psyshock, Expanding Force, Slack Off, Explosion, Shadow Bone, Sludge Bomb, Ice Spinner, Triple Dive, Air Slash, Weather Ball, Light Screen, Wicked Blow, Drum Beating, Leaf Storm, Fusion Bolt
UNVIABLE MOVES: Flame Charge, Signal Beam, Metal Burst, Guard Swap, Sweet Kiss, Flame Burst, Whirlpool, Mean Look, Grass Whistle, Camouflage, Hydro Cannon, Doom Desire, Speed Swap, Quash, Rock Tomb, Hail, Bind, Grass Pledge, Snore, Beat Up
NAME: Protola
STATS: 99/26/117/107/108/143
TYPING: Rock
ABILITIES: Multiscale / Wind Power | Magnet Pull
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Psyblade, Reflect, Pain Split, High Jump Kick, Shadow Bone, Sacred Fire, Psycho Cut, Dragon Hammer, Thunder Cage, Haze, Bonemerang, Rapid Spin, Brick Break, Morning Sun, Psyshield Bash, Beak Blast, Shelter, False Surrender
UNVIABLE MOVES: Blizzard, Sing, Struggle Bug, Thunder Fang, Slash, Echoed Voice, Growl, Electroweb, Doodle, Mirror Shot, Twin Beam, Retaliate, Laser Focus, Night Daze, Ice Ball, Hail, False Swipe, Gust, Hyperspace Fury, Venom Drench
NAME: Bonron
STATS: 72/50/107/123/145/103
TYPING: Ground/Steel
ABILITIES: Quick Draw / --- | Turboblaze
MOVES: Earthquake, Earth Power, Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Water Shuriken, Head Smash, Foul Play, Flare Blitz, Take Heart, Wave Crash, Drill Peck, Hyper Drill, Focus Punch, Triple Axel, Agility, Last Resort, Spiky Shield, Stealth Rock, Psystrike, Strength Sap
UNVIABLE MOVES: Steel Roller, Infestation, Sludge, Vital Throw, Stomp, Self-Destruct, Wing Attack, Chilling Water, Purify, Venom Drench, Chip Away, Incinerate, Comet Punch, Metal Claw, Dragon Breath, Doom Desire, Twin Beam, Power Trip, Splash, Psych Up
STATS: 117/38/33/150/137/125
TYPING: Electric/Fighting
ABILITIES: Anger Point / --- | Sheer Force
MOVES: Zing Zap, Thunderbolt, Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Last Resort, Snipe Shot, Photon Geyser, Volt Tackle, Drum Beating, Wild Charge, Octolock, Yawn, Spacial Rend, Healing Wish, Magma Storm, Grav Apple, Quick Attack, Morning Sun, Jet Punch, Magical Torque
UNVIABLE MOVES: Smack Down, Heart Stamp, Land's Wrath, Kinesis, Happy Hour, Jump Kick, Bone Club, Iron Defense, Trop Kick, Rock Throw, Mean Look, Cotton Spore, Eerie Impulse, Night Daze, Mind Reader, Silver Wind, Poison Fang, Dragon Rage, Transform, Hyperspace Fury
NAME: Wallashore
STATS: 87/97/140/110/85/81
TYPING: Water/Fighting
ABILITIES: Merciless / Fluffy | Electromorphosis
MOVES: Waterfall, Surf, Sky Uppercut, Aura Sphere, Hidden Power, Water Shuriken, Yawn, Seismic Toss, Megahorn, Aqua Jet, High Jump Kick, Spectral Thief, High Horsepower, Curse, Thunderous Kick, Rage Fist, Geomancy, Light Screen, Scale Shot, Electro Drift
UNVIABLE MOVES: Powder, Misty Explosion, Twin Beam, Guard Swap, Smart Strike, Celebrate, Conversion, Cut, Howl, Blizzard, Eerie Impulse, Dynamic Punch, Follow Me, Hyper Beam, Branch Poke, Submission, Chip Away, Grass Pledge, Headbutt, Secret Power
NAME: Radiblade
STATS: 118/74/127/122/32/127
TYPING: Fire
ABILITIES: Frisk / Fairy Aura | Moxie
MOVES: Blaze Kick, Flamethrower, Surging Strikes, Aqua Jet, V-Create, Psyshock, Expanding Force, Slack Off, Explosion, Shadow Bone, Sludge Bomb, Ice Spinner, Triple Dive, Air Slash, Weather Ball, Light Screen, Wicked Blow, Drum Beating, Leaf Storm, Fusion Bolt
UNVIABLE MOVES: Flame Charge, Signal Beam, Metal Burst, Guard Swap, Sweet Kiss, Flame Burst, Whirlpool, Mean Look, Grass Whistle, Camouflage, Hydro Cannon, Doom Desire, Speed Swap, Quash, Rock Tomb, Hail, Bind, Grass Pledge, Snore, Beat Up
NAME: Protola
STATS: 99/26/117/107/108/143
TYPING: Rock
ABILITIES: Multiscale / Wind Power | Magnet Pull
MOVES: Stone Edge, Power Gem, Psyblade, Reflect, Pain Split, High Jump Kick, Shadow Bone, Sacred Fire, Psycho Cut, Dragon Hammer, Thunder Cage, Haze, Bonemerang, Rapid Spin, Brick Break, Morning Sun, Psyshield Bash, Beak Blast, Shelter, False Surrender
UNVIABLE MOVES: Blizzard, Sing, Struggle Bug, Thunder Fang, Slash, Echoed Voice, Growl, Electroweb, Doodle, Mirror Shot, Twin Beam, Retaliate, Laser Focus, Night Daze, Ice Ball, Hail, False Swipe, Gust, Hyperspace Fury, Venom Drench
NAME: Bonron
STATS: 72/50/107/123/145/103
TYPING: Ground/Steel
ABILITIES: Quick Draw / --- | Turboblaze
MOVES: Earthquake, Earth Power, Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Water Shuriken, Head Smash, Foul Play, Flare Blitz, Take Heart, Wave Crash, Drill Peck, Hyper Drill, Focus Punch, Triple Axel, Agility, Last Resort, Spiky Shield, Stealth Rock, Psystrike, Strength Sap
UNVIABLE MOVES: Steel Roller, Infestation, Sludge, Vital Throw, Stomp, Self-Destruct, Wing Attack, Chilling Water, Purify, Venom Drench, Chip Away, Incinerate, Comet Punch, Metal Claw, Dragon Breath, Doom Desire, Twin Beam, Power Trip, Splash, Psych Up