With the Daybreak update, shiny hunting with mass outbreaks has changed. What used to work has changed and I thought I would elaborate on how shiny hunting has changed. Although I have yet to play the update myself, I have done extensive research and will impart some wisdom as a seasoned shiny hunter.
(This thread will be updated with encounter tables when they are compiled)
(Additional information will also be added as more knowledge on Massive Mass Outbreaks develops)
(This thread will be updated with encounter tables when they are compiled)
(Additional information will also be added as more knowledge on Massive Mass Outbreaks develops)
I call this one MOM Hunting, or Mass Outbreak Method Hunting.
MOM Hunting is effective prior to the Daybreak Update, and its procedure is as follows:
MOM Hunting is effective prior to the Daybreak Update, and its procedure is as follows:
- Find a mass outbreak you would like from the map in Jubilife. Every time you leave and come back to the village there is a chance a mass outbreak will appear. If there is nothing you want, go to a camp of your choice and come back to Jubilife until you get something you want.
- Once you get the outbreak you want, head to camp and turn off autosaves. Drop a "hard save" (manually save from the menu) and head to the outbreak zone. I pin its location on the map.
- Either almost, but not totally, clear the outbreak or check the first set of Pokemon that appear and head back. I do the latter. If there is no shiny, return to Jubilife. There is a chance the outbreak will stay. If it does not, reset the game and immediately head back to Jubilife.
- Repeat steps 2 and 3 until you get your target.
I mention in step 3 that if your outbreak doesn't stay, reset your game and immediately head back to Jubilife. Don't check the outbreak again. Well, you can, but it's a waste of time. Allow me to explain:
PLA utilizes seeds, as most other Pokemon games have done, as a way to determine the Pokemon spawning. Basically, a seed is a random number string that generates an infinite amount of Pokemon for an infinite amount of time. However, where most other Pokemon games generate their seed when you start up your game, PLA retains your seed even after you shut down and restart your game. This is why in PLA when you see a shiny, you can save your game and reboot and the shiny will still be there. On the seed you are playing on, your shiny was determined to be shiny, and the seed will not change until you go back to Jubilife. You can restart your game as much as you want, the shiny will always stay there.
This applies to mass outbreaks. Every Pokemon in that outbreak is predetermined by the seed, so if you don't find your shiny that time, it doesn't matter how many times you reboot the game. You will actually catch the exact same Pokemon every time because the seed determines everything about the Pokemon, not just shininess.
ODDS**+:
*The shiny charm cannot be obtained unless you have Research Level 10 for all Pokemon
**Odds are rounded to whole numbers.
+Odds compiled from Anubis on Twitter
PLA utilizes seeds, as most other Pokemon games have done, as a way to determine the Pokemon spawning. Basically, a seed is a random number string that generates an infinite amount of Pokemon for an infinite amount of time. However, where most other Pokemon games generate their seed when you start up your game, PLA retains your seed even after you shut down and restart your game. This is why in PLA when you see a shiny, you can save your game and reboot and the shiny will still be there. On the seed you are playing on, your shiny was determined to be shiny, and the seed will not change until you go back to Jubilife. You can restart your game as much as you want, the shiny will always stay there.
This applies to mass outbreaks. Every Pokemon in that outbreak is predetermined by the seed, so if you don't find your shiny that time, it doesn't matter how many times you reboot the game. You will actually catch the exact same Pokemon every time because the seed determines everything about the Pokemon, not just shininess.
ODDS**+:
Base Odds | 1/158 | |||
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | 1/152 | ||
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Complete Research Page | 1/141 | |
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Shiny Charm* | 1/137 | |
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Complete Research Page | Shiny Charm | 1/128 |
*The shiny charm cannot be obtained unless you have Research Level 10 for all Pokemon
**Odds are rounded to whole numbers.
+Odds compiled from Anubis on Twitter
I call this method Massive MOM Hunting (Massive Mass Outbreak Method Hunting) It's a mouthful to say in its full, so I just shorten it to M-MOM Hunting.
Its method is as follows:
Its method is as follows:
- Enter the area where there is a Massive Mass Outbreak (Make sure you have 5 Aguav Berries beforehand)
- Find Mai and give her 5 Aguav Berries so Munchlax can reveal the Pokemon in the Massive Mass Outbreak. Save your game prior so that if there are no targets you want to hunt, reset the game so you don't waste your Aguav Berries.
- If the Outbreak has a Pokemon you would like to hunt, save the game.
- Make your way around the area, hitting up each Massive Mass Outbreak. There's a shot you can run into a shiny, and if you run out of time (Massive Mass Outbreaks are on a timer) you can always reset and skip by the ones you already checked.
- If you haven't found any shinies or would like to hunt a specific target, pin the location of your target on the map and clear that outbreak of them. Again, if you run out of time, you saved after all of the locations have been revealed to you, so you can always reset and refresh the timer.
- If you didn't find a shiny and didn't find anything you wanted, head back to Jubilife. Rinse and repeat until you find something.
Alternatively, you could save before giving your Aguav Berries to Mai. When the Pokemon are revealed to you, check out the stuff you want to hunt and make a mental note of their location on the map. Reset your game and pin the location you remembered. Bam. No Aguav Berries used at all. Get scammed, Mai.
There are two special kinds of Massive Mass Outbreak... outbreaks? Here's a picture below to provide an example:
(creds to this video for the screenshot)
Both of these outbreaks have a golden glow around them. These glows indicate that there is something special about the outbreak.
The Wurmple outbreak on the top has a berry in the top right corner. A berry in the top right corner indicates that these Pokemon drop Aguav Berries.
The Munchlax outbreak on the bottom has a little star in the top right corner. A star in the top right corner indicates that the second wave of these Pokemon (The Pokemon that spawn after you have caught the first four Pokemon you find) can be their evolved form, their alpha form, or a combination of the two.
ODDS**+:
*The shiny charm cannot be obtained unless you have Research level 10 for all Pokemon
**Odds are rounded to whole numbers
+Odds compiled from Anubis on Twitter
There are two special kinds of Massive Mass Outbreak... outbreaks? Here's a picture below to provide an example:
(creds to this video for the screenshot)
Both of these outbreaks have a golden glow around them. These glows indicate that there is something special about the outbreak.
The Wurmple outbreak on the top has a berry in the top right corner. A berry in the top right corner indicates that these Pokemon drop Aguav Berries.
The Munchlax outbreak on the bottom has a little star in the top right corner. A star in the top right corner indicates that the second wave of these Pokemon (The Pokemon that spawn after you have caught the first four Pokemon you find) can be their evolved form, their alpha form, or a combination of the two.
ODDS**+:
Base Odds | 1/316 | |||
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | 1/293 | ||
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Complete Research Page | 1/256 | |
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Shiny Charm | 1/241 | |
Base Odds | Research Level 10 | Complete Research Page | Shiny Charm | 1/216 |
*The shiny charm cannot be obtained unless you have Research level 10 for all Pokemon
**Odds are rounded to whole numbers
+Odds compiled from Anubis on Twitter
Massive Mass Outbreaks provide lots of Pokemon that are difficult to find and catch, such as alphas, evolved Pokemon, and starters. However, the shiny odds are worse than regular Mass Outbreaks. That's not saying much, as from a veteran shiny hunter perspective, 1/316 are some grazy good odds, but it is still harder to find a shiny through Massive Mass Outbreaks than through normal Mass Outbreaks. Below I have compiled the pros and cons of updating:
PROS:
There are pros and cons to both MOM Hunting and M-MOM Hunting. Personally, I find MOM Hunting easier and more alluring than M-MOM Hunting.
MOM Hunting will still exist after the update, but some of its spawn slots will be taken up by Massive Mass Outbreaks.
If you have yet to update your game, hold off for a little bit and create a list of targets you really don't want to put too much effort into hunting but still really want. Popular targets like Zorua are much easier to hunt via MOM Hunting. Hunt those targets via MOM Hunting and then update your game, where you can generally hunt for targets you may not want as much.
Or, you could update and start M-MOM hunting right away or never update at all. Ultimately, you're in charge, but I would recommend taking care of a list of targets before updating.
That's all! Happy hunting!
PROS:
- More Pokemon, such as starters and alphas, are easier to find
- Odds of finding a shiny in general is much higher with more mass outbreaks in any given area
- Shiny odds for any given outbreak are higher
- It is easier to hunt for a specific Pokemon rather than a slew of different targets
- When you refresh a seed by returning to Jubilife, Mass Outbreaks stay. Massive Mass Outbreaks do not.
- You are not restricted to a timer when MOM Hunting. M-MOM Hunting puts you on a timer
There are pros and cons to both MOM Hunting and M-MOM Hunting. Personally, I find MOM Hunting easier and more alluring than M-MOM Hunting.
MOM Hunting will still exist after the update, but some of its spawn slots will be taken up by Massive Mass Outbreaks.
If you have yet to update your game, hold off for a little bit and create a list of targets you really don't want to put too much effort into hunting but still really want. Popular targets like Zorua are much easier to hunt via MOM Hunting. Hunt those targets via MOM Hunting and then update your game, where you can generally hunt for targets you may not want as much.
Or, you could update and start M-MOM hunting right away or never update at all. Ultimately, you're in charge, but I would recommend taking care of a list of targets before updating.
That's all! Happy hunting!