I just got back into playing mons after skipping Gen 8. I gotta say, Zamazenta and Kingambit might be two of the funniest, most skill-less mons, noob-friendly mons I've ever seen allowed in a tier. When making a team around Zamazenta and Kingambit, what threats should I be looking out for? What teammates are good for enabling their reverse 6-0 sweeps?
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The main threats to the combination of Zamazenta and Kingambit are as follows: Zamazenta (lol), Iron valiant, Gholdengo Tera-Fairy NP Dazzling Gleam, Iron Moth, Enamorus, Moltres, Gliscor depending on the set, Roaring Moon forces Zamazenta's Tera, and Wisp Pult and Primarina are kinda annoying too. Hazards are also a bit of a problem for your own Zamazenta and Kingambit.
I probably missed 1 or 2 since the list is a bit large but knowing that these are the problems here's what I'd do if you want to abuse Zamazenta and Kingambit. First none of those Pokemon use Heavy Duty Boots besides some Zamazenta, Dragapult, and Moltres. Having some sort of Stealth Rocks + Spikes stack can he crucial in chipping stuff like Leftovers Zamazenta, Iron Moth, Enamorus, Iron Valiant, Roaring Moon, and Primarina. So with Zamazenta + Kingambit you can pair it with something like Samurott-Hisui or Gliscor for a spiker slot.
You'll also notice a running theme with those Pokemon is that they are mostly special attackers, so a general check to special attackers like Assault Vest Primarina can help as well. This is especially nice since Primarina can Flip Turn on Slowking-Galars to bring in Kingambit safely without any hard predictions needed. Primarina also handles other Zamazenta decently enough, and Moltres very well. If you aren't liking Assault Vest Primarina you can also try Sp.Def invested Slowking Galar, or Max Defense AV Slowking-Galar (max defense helps vs Zamzenta).
Lastly in terms of hazard control, the options are quite limited since. Kingambit + Zamazenta is 85% of the time going to be Bulky Offense so fitting Corviknight will be very difficult unless it's a balance archetype. Glimmora also is moreso used on Offense or Hyper Offense rather than Bulky Offense. You're only other more feasible options are Great Tusk, Cinderace, or maybe Iron Treads if your team becomes offensive enough.
In terms of Moltres/Wisp Dragapult specifically, you could use Tera-Fire Kingambit, and Resto Chesto Iron Defense Zamazenta.
Hope this helps and good luck!!
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How come Tusk are running max HP and max speed?
Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Spinner
- Headlong Rush
- Stealth Rock
Like a set like this are becoming more prominent. Is max HP more useful now against mons like kingambit or is its attack less useful now? Also, why rocky helmet now? Hell, I've seen booster speed with rocks and no bulk up. Is this just tusk being more useful for support? Sometimes I've seen max attack with rocks using rocky helmet, is knock off less needed now?
Great Tusk @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Spinner
- Headlong Rush
- Stealth Rock
Like a set like this are becoming more prominent. Is max HP more useful now against mons like kingambit or is its attack less useful now? Also, why rocky helmet now? Hell, I've seen booster speed with rocks and no bulk up. Is this just tusk being more useful for support? Sometimes I've seen max attack with rocks using rocky helmet, is knock off less needed now?
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Hey, Great Tusk runs max HP when its defensive presence is needed more. It almost always needs its speed, so instead of running attack, it runs HP. Rocky Helmet lets it make progress against mons like Gambit who chip it with Iron Head, by forcing them to take chip too. Great Tusk has lots of really good moves so it's just basically whatever your team needs. Rocky Helmet Rocks is basically to switch into a physical attacker, force it to take chip, and set rocks as it switches out. Knock Off is nice but its usual targets can either be hit harder with something else (Lando or Gliscor) or don't mind being Knocked (Corv or Alo). Ghold is actually a match up where Knock really helps, but again, you can run whatever your team needs most.
Does anyone know the pecharunt set appearing in tournaments and why it works well with the Lando/H-Rott core?
Doesn't outspeed anything in particular, just speedcreep
Turn order is entirely dynamic, so since Ogerpon Teras at the beginning of the turn, it gains a speed boost and uses its new speed.
I have been seeing some clefables run both moonlight and wish, for example in this game:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-804170
When is this specific tech useful/what is it used for?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-804170
When is this specific tech useful/what is it used for?
Follow up question, what purpose does Skill Swap Clef have?
I'm guessing its so clefable doesn't have to rely on protect in order to get healing, which definetely can be exploitable, while still having the ability to pass wishes to its team. Its probably a niche choice, but that's probably the reasoning behind it.
The skill swap clefable had unaware, but even for magic guard it could have some use cases, as lots of mons rely on their abilities. Gliscor can no longer passively heal with poison heal, garganacl can actually be statused, which means if you can force it out its going to be taking toxic/burn damage every time, regenerator mons such as glowking or toxapex can't heal off there health, and other such things. Clefable can switch into the first two due to unaware meaning they can't boost past it, so that's probably the main reason to use it, which the team the skill swap clefable was on looked like it would struggle against.Follow up question, what purpose does Skill Swap Clef have?
I'm pretty sure I have seen a tournament game of a tera ghost DD Kyurem with Icicle spear, Tera blast and Roar (to deny opposing phazers I'm guessing), but I can't find the replay anywhere. I was wondering if anyone came across it, the only thing I could find that resembles this set is a SubTect variant such as this one from Mada vs Beleth (OU Summer Seasonal).
Thanks a bunch! It was yours too yeah, I was searching for your posts, but forgot you weren't the one who posted the replay
Zamazenta @ Leftovers
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 16 HP / 132 Atk / 108 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch
- Roar
Sorry for asking so many questions, but what does the benchmarks achieve? Ive seen in the dmg calc that it can 2 shot offensive ghold, and after a iron defense 2 shot a iron valiant, but im not too sure if thats the aim
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 16 HP / 132 Atk / 108 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Crunch
- Roar
Sorry for asking so many questions, but what does the benchmarks achieve? Ive seen in the dmg calc that it can 2 shot offensive ghold, and after a iron defense 2 shot a iron valiant, but im not too sure if thats the aim
This is a follow up from a question I asked a bit ago. I am using this team posted in the Gliscors Suspect qualified thread by Stories:
"Just got reqs with a Cyclizar stall and wow this new system really fucking sucks to play in. Many hours of already having the required GXE but I didn't reach 1750 so I have to play 20 more games."
What does this team do against Calm Mind Hatterene? For example, Hatterene and Ting-Lu was in, then Hatterene used calm mind and I lost. I know I lost because I misplayed, but what should've I done in this situation (all other pokes were at 100%). (My brain just stops working around Hat for some reason).
"Just got reqs with a Cyclizar stall and wow this new system really fucking sucks to play in. Many hours of already having the required GXE but I didn't reach 1750 so I have to play 20 more games."
What does this team do against Calm Mind Hatterene? For example, Hatterene and Ting-Lu was in, then Hatterene used calm mind and I lost. I know I lost because I misplayed, but what should've I done in this situation (all other pokes were at 100%). (My brain just stops working around Hat for some reason).
If I were to post an updated team from an old RMT, is it better to use the old thread or start a new one? What is the difference maker?
HOME Team: https://pokepast.es/413d090a64d07746
DLC2 Team: https://pokepast.es/a27d39a40d76266e
HOME Team: https://pokepast.es/413d090a64d07746
DLC2 Team: https://pokepast.es/a27d39a40d76266e
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Which mon would be most effective for making a core with pecharunt? Or what kind of cores would pecharunt fit well in?
Why does defensive pivot lando run rocky helmet over boots? If it’s meant to come in regularly surely it’d rather ignore rocks chip then get its own chip onto the other players mons?
This is because it has a rocks neutrality and spikes immunity, making boots not necesary, rocky helmet, combined with intimidate, lets lando punish the physical attackers and their contact moves, allowing for extra chip overall
Its not
Landorus-T and Samurott Hisui
2HKO offensive Gholdengo with Crunch, OHKO Iron Crown with Body Press after Iron Defense and Dauntless Shield, max Speed for Roar.
Samurott-Hisui @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 216 HP / 112 Atk / 56 SpD / 124 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Razor Shell
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
What are the benchmarks with the ctc spread? I know it outspeeds uninvested base 100, but i dont know the other investments
Ability: Sharpness
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 216 HP / 112 Atk / 56 SpD / 124 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Ceaseless Edge
- Razor Shell
- Sucker Punch
- Knock Off
What are the benchmarks with the ctc spread? I know it outspeeds uninvested base 100, but i dont know the other investments