Project SM OU Lure That Threat v2 Round 45 - Heart Swap Magearna

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Welcome Smogonites! We all know what are lures and what they do, specific Pokemon that run an unexpected move or moveset in order to weaken or directly OHKO a specific threat, and pave the way for another sweeper. Having said that though, there isn't that much of a focus on lures in the OU Forum, and a good deal of lures used by battlers aren't really that optimal, this project tries from a competition to see what the ingenuity of people can come up with, and, hopefully; improve the Teambuilding aspect we have at the moment.

Every week, I will post a threat in the OU metagame alongside a set and a brief description of how it works. The community will then have around four days to nominate Pokemon (with sets) that they feel are effective lures to that specific threat. I will then pick the best lures and they will be the winners.

Rules
  • You must post a set and an explanation of why your chosen Pokemon is a good lure alongside your nomination. Damage calculations/replays are appreciated and can help better illustrate your point, but they are by no means required.
  • Please focus on only posting OU-viable Pokemon as lures. As a general rule of thumb, only nominating Pokemon found in the OU Viability Rankings is a good idea. You may nominate Pokemon that aren't found in that thread, but please post a detailed explanation of why that Pokemon is viable if you do. Nominations can be rejected on the basis of the Pokemon being unviable.
  • You are welcome to reserve a lure, but only if you plan to complete the write-up within 48 hours. Other users may nominate the Pokemon themselves if you fail to meet this time requirement.
  • If you have posted a Pokemon, you may not post a second during the first three days of the cycle. However, you may reserve a second from the fourth day onwards. For example, if a cycle starts on Tuesday and you post a lure on the Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday, you may reserve a second Pokémon from Friday onwards. One person can't reserve a third Pokemon in any given cycle.lf.
  • Does this Pokemon have to sacrifice anything important? If you're losing a key part of a set just for an uncommon threat that isn't even lured in that is what we call a "bad lure", always consider what you give up in order to lure something, that is very important.
  • Does this Pokemon gain anything important when using this moveset? Does this Pokemon or the team benefit from the lure.
  • Could this method be better aided through teammates? Does your lure need team support to carry out its role effectively?
  • Is this set uncommon enough to be really considered a lure? Would your opponent, under normal battle conditions, expect to be able to safely switch the Pokemon into your lure?
Examples

Keldeo-Resolute @ Choice Specs
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hydro Pump
- Scald
- Secret Sword
- Hidden Power [Poison]

This is an example of a good lure. Utilising Hidden Power Poison, Keldeo can effectively remove Specialy Defensive Tapu Bulu with some prior damage, which would hard wall any other variant of Keldeo. It also hits Tapu Fini for decent damage.


Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Flash Cannon
- Thunderbolt

This is an example of a bad lure. While it seems like a perfectly fine set to surprise Zygarde and Landorus-T, running Hidden Power Ice completely removes its niche in OU as a Steel-type trapper, as it's no longer capable of using Hidden Power Fire to defeat Ferrothorn and Mega Scizor.
 
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Archive & Current Threat

Round 1: Utility Heatran
Winners:​

Round 2: Defog Mega Scizor
Winners:​

Round 3: Defensive Mega Venusaur
Winners:​

Round 4: (Mega) Tyranitar
Winners:​

Round 5: Assault Vest Tapu Bulu
Winners:​

Round 6: Hawlucha
Winners:​

Round 7: Defog Gliscor
Winners:​

Martin then elected to replace the winners system with a personal analysis of the rounds, so the rounds from here onwards will have the submissions ranked as good, decent or bad.

Round 8: Chansey
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Z Wild Charge Koko, Knock Off Mega Alakazam, Knock Off Specs Pelipper, SubEndeavor Diancie, Fightinium Greninja
Decent: Taunt Thundurus-T, Infestation Toxapex
Bad: Specs Latios, Calm Mind Pain Split Magearna


Round 9: Jirachi
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Ghostium Lele, Electrium Z Kyurem-B (with Electric Terrain)
Decent: Tapunium Z + Shadow Ball Lele, EQ Mega Latios, Double Dance Shadow Ball Magearna, Counter Clefable, SD Fightinium Bulu
Bad: Flame Orb Psycho Shift Alakazam


Round 10: Zapdos
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Rockium Z Landorus-T, Grassium Z Kartana, Stone Edge Mega Pinsir, Stone Edge Hawlucha, Icium Z Gyarados, Rockium Z Bulu
Decent: Rockium Z Garchomp, Rockium Z Celesteela
Bad: Rock Tomb AV Bulu


Round 11: Mega Medicham
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Payapa Toxic Toxapex, Chople Berry + Thunder Wave Ferrothorn
Decent: Thunder Wave Chansey, Protect Heatran, Crunch Mega Tyranitar, Scarf Magearna
Bad: Scarf Celesteela, Yache + Protect Zygarde, Flying Coverage Zapdos


Round 12: Kartana
Good:
x2

Decent:

Bad:

Good: HP Fire Mega Scizor, HP Fire Ferrothorn, Defensive HP Fire Landorus-T, Choice Scarf Earth Power Landorus-T, HP Fire AV Bulu
Decent: Sap Sipper Azumarill, Thunder Wave Chansey, Thunder Wave Ferrothorn, Flamethrower Unaware Clefable, Body Slam Jirachi, HP Ice Mega Scizor
Bad: Fire Fang Hippowdon, Choice Band HP Fire Zygarde, Mewnium Z Vacuum Wave Mew, Rindo Keldeo


Round 13: Magic Guard Clefable
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Encore PuP Mega Lopunny, Metronome Mamoswine, Waterium Z Ash-Greninja
Decent: Steelium Z Zygarde, Scarf Latias w Trick
Bad: Choice Band Ferrothorn, Expert Belt Poison Jab Buzzwole


Round 14: Calm Mind 2 Attacks Mega Latias
i ranked these ones retrospectively
Good:
x2

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Heart Swap Magearna, Toxic Zapdos, Defensive Toxic Lando-T, Scarf Punishment Lando-T, Toxic Gliscor.
Decent: AV Megahorn Bulu, Toxic Heatran
Bad: Nasty Plot Darkinium Z Thundurus-T, SpDef Crunch Hippowdon


Then I took over.

Round 15: Gastrodon
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Grassium Z Heatran, Energy Ball AV Magearna, Toxic Zapdos, Energy Ball Mega Latios
Decent: Choice Specs Keldeo, Choice Specs HP Grass Blacephalon, Grass Knot Greninja, like 4 different Victini sets, Energy Ball Primarina, Nature Power Mega Camerupt, Toxic Tornadus-T
Bad: Grass Coverage Gengar, Icium Z Kyurem-B, Grassium Z Nihilego, Energy Ball Jirachi, Grass Knot Thundurus-T


Round 16: Celesteela
Good:
x2

Decent:
x3

Bad:

Good: Electrium Z Lele, Tapunium Z Lele, Firium Z Garchomp
Decent: Heat Wave Tornadus-T, Thunderbolt Mega Latios, Gravity Lando-T, Knock Off Lando-T, Rockium Z Lando-T, Metronome Lele
Bad: Electrium Z Latios, Electrium Z Clefable


Round 17: Defensive Landorus-T
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Ice Punch Mega Mawile, Ice Beam (Mega) Tyranitar, Weakness Policy Zygarde
Decent: Ganlon Berry + Natural Gift Garchomp, Toxic Hippowdon, HP Ice Zard X
Bad: Speed Creeping HP Ice Lando-T, HP Ice Mega Scizor, Icium Z Victini


Round 18: Rocky Helmet Tornadus-T
Good:

Decent:
x2

Bad:

Good: Body Slam Jirachi, Stone Edge Bulu
Decent: Toxic Lando-T, Stone Edge Lando-T, Toxic Tangrowth, Gyro Ball Ferrothorn, Glare Z Hyper Beam Serperior, Steelium / Normalium Kartana
Bad: Choice Specs Thunderbolt Hoopa-U


Round 19: Weakness Policy Zygarde
Good:
x2

Decent:

Bad: None! :]
Good: Knock Off Clefable, Calm Mind Ice Beam Clefable, Will-O-Wisp Heatran, Counter Chansey, Toxic Zapdos
Decent: Scarf HP Ice Heatran
Bad: None :]


Round 20: Reflect Type Mega Latias
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Toxic Tornadus-T, Toxic Gliscor, Toxic Zapdos, Superpower Mega Tyranitar, Scarf Final Gambit Victini
Decent: Fightinium Z Weavile
Bad: Low Kick Bisharp, Offensive Heart Swap Magearna


Round 21: Defensive Mew
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Adamant Thunder Punch Mega Medicham (with Electric Terrain), Groundium Z Zygarde, Encore PuP Mega Lopunny, Toxic Ferrothorn
Decent: SD Knock Off Landorus-T, Toxic Celesteela, Double Edge Mega Medicham
Bad: Camouflage Zygarde, Taunt Mega Lopunny (lol), Sing Mega Mawile


Round 22: Payapa Toxapex
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Taunt Ash-Greninja, Z Dig Greninja, Knock Off Mega Alakazam, Encore PuP Mega Lopunny
Decent: CM + Taunt Keldeo, CM Ghostium Blacephalon, Electrium Z Gengar, Sap Sipper Azumarill
Bad: Endeavor Scolipede, SD Zard Y, Groundium Z Celesteela


Round 23: SpDef SD Bulu
Good:

Decent:
x3

Bad:

Good: Sludge Bomb Tangrowth, Flyinium Z Koko, Choice Specs HP Poison Keldeo, Flyinium Landorus-T, Ice Beam Manaphy
Decent: Poison Jab Garchomp, Iron Tail Zygarde, Steelium Z Zygarde, Sludge Wave Zygarde, Sap Sipper Azumarill, Sludge Wave Landorus-T, Gunk Shot Ash-Greninja
Bad: Normalium Z Kartana, Gunk Shot Special Hoopa-U, Scarf Poison Jab Terrakion, Flyinium Z Gyarados, Gunk Shot Toxapex


Round 24: Charizard Y
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Thunder Wave Ferrothorn, Thunder Wave Clefable, (Stun) Spore Amoonguss, AV Bulu w Edge, Scarf Rock Slide Lando
Decent: Scarf Bulu w Edge, Normalium Kartana, Rock Slide Tangrowth
Bad: Rock Slide Gliscor, Hidden Power Rock Keldeo, Waterium Z Pelipper, Stone Edge Celesteela, Rain Dance Swampert, Stone Edge Utility Heatran


Round 25: AV Magearna
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Tapunium Z Lele, Groundium Greninja, Knock Off Clefable, Electrium Z Kyurem-B, Z-Wild Charge Koko, Scarf Trick Latios, Knock Off Mega Alakazam
Decent: Reflect Type Mega Latias, Sub Endeavour Mega Diancie
Bad: Z Earthquake Gyarados, Z Earthquake Latios


Round 26: Tapu Fini
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Grassium Z Heatran, Mewnium Z Mew, Mirror Coat Alomomola, Choice Specs Pelipper
Decent: Thunderbolt Mega Latios, Poisonium Z Hydreigon, Thunder Punch Charizard X, Choice Specs HP Electric Keldeo
Bad: Gunk Shot Ash-Greninja, Weakness Policy Zygarde


Round 27: Assault Vest Tangrowth
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Toxic Zygarde, Metal Sound Magnezone, Icium Z Manaphy, Flyinium Z Tapu Koko, Knock Off Gliscor, Flyinium Z Landorus-T, Steelium Z Excadrill
Decent: Explosion Mega Diancie, Knock Off Clefable, Knock Off Ferrothorn, Sap Sipper Azumarill, Normalium Z Kartana.
Bad: SpDef SD Megahorn Tapu Bulu, Infestation Toxapex


Round 28: Mega Alakazam
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Steelium Z Heatran, Payapa Toxapex, Mirror Coat Gastrodon, Thunder Wave Clefable
Decent: Pursuit Mega Scizor, Pursuit Mega Aerodactyl
Bad: AV Pursuit Metagross


Round 29: Rotom-Wash
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Grassium Z Heatran, Rockium Z Landorus-T
Decent: Toxic Mega Camerupt
Bad: Nature Power Mega Diancie with Grassy Terrain, Offensive SD Mega Scizor, Toxic Mega Swampert, Toxic Zapdos, Fightinium Z Greninja, Mold Breaker + Earthquake Pinsir, Passho Volcarona


Round 30: Moltres
Good:

Decent:
Bad:

Good: Rockium Bulu, Normalium Z Kartana, Rock Tomb Excadrill, Rockium Z Landorus-T.
Decent:
Bad: Rock Slide Tangrowth, Rock Blast Stakataka, Rock Slide Mega Camerupt, Rockium Z Celesteela, HP Rock Serperior.


Round 31: Reuniclus
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Dragon Tail Zygarde, Heart Swap Magearna, Worry Seed Ferrothorn.
Decent: Thunder Wave Chansey.
Bad: Taunt Tornadus-T.


Round 32: Hippowdon
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Dragon Tail Zygarde, Trick Victini
Decent: Toxic Buzzwole
Bad: Grassium Z Heatran, MixedNape, Wood Hammer Mimikyu, Icium Z Magearna, Calm Mind Grassium Z Jirachi, Waterium Scolipede, Expert Belt Victini, Grass Knot Koko


Round 33: Slowbro
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: SubTox Zygarde, Dark Pulse Protean Greninja.
Decent: Thunder Punch Mega Medicham, Grassium Z Heatran, Toxic Mega Lopunny.
Bad: Grassium Z Greninja, HP Electric Keldeo.


Round 34: Hydreigon
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Ice Beam Ash-Greninja, Toxic Hippowdon.
Decent: Steelium Z Heatran.
Bad: Scarf Volcanion, Scarf Superpower Landorus-T, Dragon Pulse Serperior.


Round 35: Mega Mawile
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Heat Wave Tornadus-T, Swords Dance Groundium Weavile.
Decent: Fire Blast Clefable.
Bad: Will-O-Wisp Reflect Type Gengar, Scarf Serperior.


Round 36: Buzzwole
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Swords Dance Normalium Kartana, HP Flying Landorus-T.
Decent: Aerial Ace Kartana, Flyinium Z Landorus-T, Psychium Z Tapu Bulu.
Bad: Rocky Helmet Tangrowth, Hydro Pump Mega Swampert, Toxic Tapu Bulu, Fire Blast Tyranitar, Wing Attack / Acrobatics Gliscor, Z-Peck Mamoswine, Psycho Cut Kartana.


Round 37: Mega Aggron
Good:

Decent:

Bad:
Good: Fightinium Z Lele, Focus Punch Mega Mawile, Fightinium Z Tornadus-T, Fightinium Z Tapu Bulu.
Decent: Bulk Up Tapu Bulu.
Bad:


Round 38: Pyukumuku
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Calm Mind Stored Power Clefable, Outrage Zard X.
Decent: Metronome Zygarde.
Bad: Grassium Z Serperior, Taunt Mega Gyarados, SubSwarm Volcarona.


Round 39: (Mega) Tyranitar Revisited
Good:

Decent:

Bad:

Good: Fightinium Z Tornadus-T, Steelium Z Heatran, Fightinium Z Reuniclus.
Decent: Fightinium Z Gengar, Toxic Pressure Zapdos.
Bad: Nasty Plot Mew, Focus Punch Zard Y, Choice Specs Blacephalon w/ HP Grass, Fightinium Z Celesteela.
 
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Mawile @ Mawilite
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Sucker Punch
- Focus Punch
- Thunder Punch

Focus Punch is a clean OHKO on even HP invested Heatran, which generally likes to come in on Mawile as it walls all other sets. Substitute is an option over Thunder Punch as it allows for a safer hit on Tran, but revealing Substitute generally gives away you're running Focus Punch as well, not to mention Thunder Punch provides great coverage for CelePex teams alike. This set still requires some prediction, as Focus Punch should be used as Heatran switches in, but it is still an amazing Heatran lure.

252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 588-692 (152.3 - 179.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Celesteela @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 248 HP / 132 Def / 128 SpD
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Heavy Slam
- Earthquake

Simple lure, tran only rly fears leech seed from steela so it can switch in fairly safely, and you can just eq it on the switch.


0 Atk Celesteela Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Heatran: 268-316 (71.2 - 84%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Reserving WateriumZ Latios

Latios (M) @ Waterium Z
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Psychic
- Recover
- Defog

A nice throw back to Oras but with Zmoves, Z-Surf Latios has been my favourite Heatran lure, especially paired with the likes of M.Scizor. It can switch into any of Heatrans attacks only being most affected by Toxic and nuke it with Z-Surf or remove the Stealth Rock it set up and can very easily bluff Scarf due to the Z-move. Heatran also likes to switch in on Latios as it usually doesn't carry anything to hurt it with other than crippling with Trick. Z-Surf is not just used for Heatran either as it nukes switch-ins such a Ttar, Bisharp and Bulky Excadrill alleviating some of the problems they cause. However with the loss of Draco Meteor or a boosting item in LO/Soul Dew, Latios is doing significantly less damage and thus is left in a more supporting role for the team.

252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 362-426 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 362-426 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 254-300 (74.4 - 87.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Bisharp: 255-300 (94 - 110.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

252 SpA Latios Hydro Vortex (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Excadrill: 360-424 (84.9 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
 
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Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP / 252 Att / 4 SpD / 52 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Swords Dance
- Roost/Bug Bite/U-Turn/Knock Off

Bit of an old set here. Full on sweeping scizor works really nicely as a Tran lure thanks to this set being nearly non-existent these days (fuck u lele). As a result, Tran's an easy switch in to Scizor, but a full powered Superpower is gonna do enough to basically make it useless the rest of the game or potentially die after rocks.

252+ Atk Scizor-Mega Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 306-360 (79.2 - 93.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
 

Ferrothorn @ Groundium Z
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 120 HP / 220 Atk / 168 SpD or 200 HP / 220 Atk / 88 Def
Careful / Impish Nature (depends if u wanna go physdef or spdef)
- Spikes
- Leech Seed
- Bulldoze
- Power Whip

this set is pretty much like the above set but it actually kills tran while maintaining some utility if they don't have a tran or magnezone. evs maximize spdef or physdef depending on what you want but ofc you can go mixed bulk but im too lazy to find better evs.

220 Atk Ferrothorn Tectonic Rage (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 388-460 (100.5 - 119.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

220 Atk Ferrothorn Tectonic Rage (120 BP) vs. 140 HP / 0 Def Magnezone: 360-428 (113.9 - 135.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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reserving earthquake mew


Mew @ Leftovers
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 72 Def / 184 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Soft-Boiled
- Defog

Earthquake Mew is a cool lure since its a fairly passive mon that invites in Heatran since it can switch into any of Mew's moves while barely taking any damage from Ice Beam and Psychic. Earthquake comfortably 2HKOs Heatran on the switch and outspeeds it so it can finish it afterwards if the opponent doesn't switch for some reason. It also chunks Magearna, which is nice since it usually wouldn't really mind switching into Ice Beam or Psychic. Earthquake is used over Earth Power since it does pretty much the same damage to Heatran while hitting AV Magearna harder.

0- Atk Mew Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 248-292 (64.2 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

0- Atk Mew Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Magearna: 114-136 (31.4 - 37.4%) -- 83.7% chance to 3HKO

0- Atk Mew Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 114-136 (37.8 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Note: Earthquake could probably be used over Defog if the team doesn't need Defog support or would simply rather have Will-O-Wisp support.
 
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Yellow Magic Thunder Wave Clefable



Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Knock Off / Stealth Rock / Calm Mind
- Thunder Wave
- Soft-Boiled
- Moonblast

This set is a relic from the time Clef was pretty much the best mon during XY/ORAS, and it isn't as effective due to the accuracy nerf of Thunder Wave and the nerf to Paralysis in general, but Clefable's still able to outpace a paralyzed Timid Heatran in 7th gen, and while 90% accuracy on Thunder Wave is a bit of a blow, it's still accurate enough, I'd say. From my understanding, Thunder Wave Clefable's a pretty rare set these days, and because of this Heatran just loves to switch in vs this thing.

Anyways, Heatran comes in on the switch and gets para'd. You're then free to get the hell out of there before it traps you with Magma Storm. If you're running Calm Mind, you can try to 1v1 it by getting up a boost before it Taunts you, but you'd have to rely on parahax and misses to make this work and isn't recommended.

While Clefable can't really do much to Heatran while un-boosted by Calm Mind even if it's paralyzed, a paralyzed Heatran is excellent news for its teammates that are slower than a max-speed variant, such as Superpower Mega Scizor, Superpower/Fightinium Z Tapu Bulu, unboosted Fightinium Z Magearna, defensive Lando-T, and even your own Earth Power Heatran to prevent speed-ties.
 
EQ Mega Latias (the last reservation expired)

Latias @ Latiasite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psychic
- Earthquake (replacing HP Fire)
- Recover

This is a variation of the classic LO set, with Latiasite over LO for the increased bulk together with the offenses and the Knock Off-absorber megastone, and Earthquake which is usually stronger than HP Fire when you face a not-4x weak monster. The loss of LO recoil is also a thing to consider.
Ferrothorn and Mega-Scizor, while now are a problem for Latias, still remain passive enough you can handle them with another partner.

0- Atk Latias-Mega Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Heatran: 248-292 (64.2 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0- Atk Latias-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 130-154 (47.9 - 56.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
0- Atk Latias-Mega Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Muk-Alola: 164-194 (39.7 - 46.9%) -- 41% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rockwhile avoiding the 2HKO from Pursuit + the lack of LO recoil
0- Atk Latias-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 120-142 (35.1 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock + 252 SpA Latias-Mega Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar: 223-264 (65.3 - 77.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock = you achieve the KO
0- Atk Latias-Mega Earthquake vs. 200 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 114-136 (32.4 - 38.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
 
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Focus Blast Clefable


Clefable (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpD (or 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD)
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Focus Blast

Ran this a bit last gen and it works for this gen too. It won't 2HKO Heatran (does 41-48 and that's if you hit), but you win the 1v1 if they're already chipped for 2HKO range, or if you hit Focus Blast when they switch in. Magma Storm does 36-42 or 37-44 (assuming they hit), so they'll need a 3HKO as well and it's also possible to Softboiled as they click Magma Storm or Focus Blast as they Taunt.

Takes a bit of effort and a bit of luck but it'll work out for not only Heatran, but Band Tar, Kartana (1HKO'ing these 2) and Ferrothorn to a smaller degree (does 36-42).
 
Z-Water Pulse Jirachi


Jirachi @ Waterium Z
Ability: Serene Grace
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature / Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Calm Mind
- Water Pulse
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Fire

Basically you cm, oppo sends heatran cuz he's afraid of happy hour/free sr, you just click z water pulse and bop.
Also works for Landorus, Excadrill, Marowak, Tyranitar, Volcarona or Victini.
(Btw put "shiny: yes" so oppo thinks it's happy hour.)

+1 252+ SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 340-402 (88 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 394-464 (123.5 - 145.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 464-548 (128.5 - 151.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Marowak-Alola: 392-462 (150.1 - 177%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 218-258 (63.9 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar: 326-384 (95.6 - 112.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 312-368 (100.3 - 118.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+1 252 SpA Jirachi Hydro Vortex (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victini: 326-384 (95.6 - 112.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
 
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Muscle K

Banned deucer.
Although this set has become fairly common, I might as well put it up.

Electrium Z Magnezone




Magnezone @ Electrium Z
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest / Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Flash Cannon
- Hidden Power [Fire]


This 100% original Muscle K set set was designed to trap steels that are usually particularly hard to trap ie. Mawile, Heatran and
The premise of this lure is to nuke Heatran upon switch-in, as Magnezone can rarely win the 1v1, unless Magma Storm misses and or the opponent sets rocks up in your face. If you encounter a Specially Defensive Heatran (which, let's face it is probably never), just let it take 30% so zone can revenge kill it with gigavolt havoc.

The Electrium Z can also be used to trap the previously mentioned Mawile and Heatran, while simultaneously securing the OHKO on the now rarely used Specially Defensive Celesteela.

252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 124 SpD Celesteela: 552-650 (138.6 - 163.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 446-528 (112 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

For a guaranteed OHKO on Scizor:
252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor-Mega: 313-370 (91.2 - 107.8%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 212 HP / 0 SpD Heatran: 298-352 (79.2 - 93.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 248 HP / 220+ SpD Heatran: 222-262 (57.6 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Magnezone Gigavolt Havoc (175 BP) vs. 40 HP / 0 SpD Mawile-Mega: 328-387 (130.6 - 154.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Magnezone Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 224-264 (63.6 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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EQ venusaur-mega


Venusaur @ Venusaurite
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 248 HP / 88 Def / 156 SpD / 16 Spe
Calm Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb / HP Fire
- Synthesis
- Earthquake

You can actually use any Venu set with EQ over any move. -speed is useless as you can see in my bonus.
The only thing that needs to be shown is this:

0- Atk Venusaur-Mega Earthquake vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Heatran: 236-280 (62.7 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

vs
0 SpA Heatran Magma Storm vs. 248 HP / 156+ SpD Thick Fat Venusaur-Mega: 92-110 (25.3 - 30.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

0- Atk Venusaur-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 114-136 (37.8 - 45.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recover
252 SpA Magearna Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 156+ SpD Thick Fat Venusaur-Mega: 68-82 (18.7 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO

0 Atk Venusaur-Mega Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Magearna: 128-152 (42.5 - 50.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Weavile Z focus Punch



Weavile @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Focus Punch
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Ice Shard

Set fun, Z focus punch Can easily OHKO heatran.


252 Atk Weavile All-Out Pummeling (200 BP) vs. 212 HP / 44 Def Heatran: 374-442 (99.4 - 117.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
 

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Focus Blast Clefable by Team Pokepals
Focus Punch Mega Mawile by Exploudit

Round 2: Defog Mega Scizor

Scizor @ Scizorite
Ability: Light Metal
EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Defog
- Roost

Edit: yes, I'm aware this was a recent one in Vertex's thread (been told just now lol) but I cba to change it now that I've opened the week (and vert's thread died ages ago); I'll be more careful w/ this in future.
 
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Scizor-Mega @ Scizorite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 228 Def / 16 SpA / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Hidden Power [Fire]

While using a special attack on Mega Scizor seems pretty impractical at first, Technician HP Fire Mega Sciz actually makes for a pretty neat lure to opposing Mega Scizors if you don't need Defog, 2HKOing the standard spread with the SpA investment. This is pretty dope as usually Mega Scizors are locked into a U-turning stalemate with each other, and luring M-Sciz can pave the way for teammates like DD Zygarde to sweep easier. It also punishes Kartanas who decide to set up on Mega Scizor, which is pretty nice as Kartana's everywhere right now.

16- SpA Technician Scizor-Mega Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor-Mega: 172-204 (50.1 - 59.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
16- SpA Technician Scizor-Mega Hidden Power Fire vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kartana: 408-480 (157.5 - 185.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled
- Stealth Rock
- Flamethrower

Most Clefables usually run something like Calm Mind, Knock Off or Toxic on its last slot nowadays, but Flamethrower can still prove to be useful. Because Defog Mega-Scizor doesn't run evs on atk, its Bullet Punch doesn't even 2HKO Clefable while Clefable can do around 80% with Flamethrower, which might be enough to kill it after a bit of chip damage. Flamethrower isn't totally deadweight moveslot because it can do some damage to Ferrothorn and even might get a surprise kill on Kartana if for some reason it switches directly into Clefable or try to set up on it.

0 SpA Clefable Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor-Mega: 248-296 (72.3 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

0 Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 162-192 (41.1 - 48.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
Garchomp scarf

Garchomp @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Rock Slide

Simple set Fire blast can 2HKO defog scizor. And Rock Slide > Stone Edge because i prefer more accuracy.



0- SpA Garchomp Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor-Mega: 236-280 (68.8 - 81.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Latios @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Defog
- Hidden Power Fire

A practical, straightforward lure. Most Scarf Latios don't even consider Hidden Power Fire over Thunder Wave or Trick, the former of which is annoying to Mega Scizor, but not quite a lure. Hidden Power Fire, however, is a nice lure for Mega Scizor considering it does upwards 90% and when factoring in prior damage it's usually a guaranteed KO. It also takes advantage of the fact that Mega Scizor and other Steel-types have become rather complacent when dealing with Latios, so it's a cool move considering it also hits Ferrothorn for substantial damage and Magearna gets chipped by it, which is nice as nothing else Latios usually runs can even touch it. You lose out on threatening Heatran, but overall this is an effective lure that does the job.

252 SpA Latios Hidden Power Fire vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Scizor-Mega: 264-312 (76.9 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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