RU Alpha Info:
Month 1:
Tier List: http://pastebin.com/jQg5ybXw
Ban List: http://pastebin.com/9FBtJmTp
*Mega Gyarados is not RU despite what the stats say, as it was a technical error because it's been OU by usage since the start of the gen
*Tangrowth moved up to OU even though it's listed in the usage stats as if it were in RU range, so it was added to the ban list for clarification
-----------------------------------------------------------Month 2:
Tier List: http://pastebin.com/Bc4AFCst
Ban List: http://pastebin.com/Uizm9N2c
*Actual tier changes (so no Salamence, Weavile, etc):
drops:
Gigalith.
rises:
Arcanine,
Alakazam,
Kommo-o,
Ninetales-A,
Flygon,
Mienshao,
Togekiss,
Metagross,
Crobat,
Celebi,
Chandelure,
Klefki,
Absol-Mega,
Swampert.
banned from uu:
Scolipede (Banned in Month 1),
Drizzle (Banned in Month 2), Baton Pass (Banned in Month 1).
SM RU won't be here for another 4 months or so, but a little early discussion as seen before XY and before ORAS can still be productive until we wait out the time. Do keep this thread relevant to RU only, and avoid discussing things that are very likely not to be in the tier (i.e. most Ultra Beasts) and things that just won't be relevant altogether (Like Air Slash Butterfree and Drill Peck Delibird). As a general rule of thumb, the Pokemon that are in BL2 and that are still in the tier are fair game for discussion.
Z move information:
-https://paste.ee/r/mvJ70
-http://pastebin.com/d5Hed1cw
Relevant Mechanics changes:
-Abilities such as Refrigerate now give a 1.2x boost instead of a 1.3x boost
-Thunder Wave is now 90% accurate and reduces Speed by 1/2 and not 1/4
-Destiny Bond now has a chance to fail if used repeatedly, much like Protect
-Gale Wings now only works if the Pokemon using it is at full health
-Diamond Storm now boosts Defenses by +2
-Confusion nerfed from 50% chance to hit to 33%
-Weak Armor now boosts Speed by +2 in addition to lowering the defense by -1
-Burn damage has been reduced to 1/16 of the user's max HP
-Leech Life now buffed to 80 BP
-Sucker Punch nerfed to 70 BP
-Dark-types are now immune to priority moves used by Prankster
-Mega Evolutions gain their stats and use of abilities at the moment they mega evolve, meaning Mega Banette will have its Speed at the start of the turn it Mega Evolves and can use Prankster turn 1
Relevant new moves for old Pokemon:
-Flygon + Dragon Dance
-Froslass + Will-O-Wisp
-Moltres + Burn Up
-Mantine + Roost (+20 HP)
-Sharpedo + Psychic Fangs
-Diancie + Power Gem
-Pangoro + Bullet Punch
Relevant new abilities for old Pokemon:
-Sandstream Gigalith
-Drought Torkoal
-Drizzle Pelipper
-Slush Rush Beartic
What can RU expect next gen?
-Weather might play an important role next gen given the presence of a good Sandstream user in Gigalith, which doubles up as a good Flying and Fire check with Sand special defense boost and the introduction of Slush Rush for hail (hail version of Swift Swim)
-Introduction of Z moves opens up the door for new strategies to execute supporting win conditions and breaking down defensive cores
-New Alolan forms such as Ninetales, Exeggutor, Marowak, Muk, Raichu and Sandslash
-New Pokemon such as Mimikyu, Silvally, Drampa, Decidueye, Rimbombee, Lycanroc, Turotnator, and Palossand
-Power creep pushing some OU/UU Pokemon and even some mega evolutions down to RU
Feel free to discuss anything else that comes to mind!
Month 1:
Tier List: http://pastebin.com/jQg5ybXw
Ban List: http://pastebin.com/9FBtJmTp
*Mega Gyarados is not RU despite what the stats say, as it was a technical error because it's been OU by usage since the start of the gen
*Tangrowth moved up to OU even though it's listed in the usage stats as if it were in RU range, so it was added to the ban list for clarification
-----------------------------------------------------------
Tier List: http://pastebin.com/Bc4AFCst
Ban List: http://pastebin.com/Uizm9N2c
*Actual tier changes (so no Salamence, Weavile, etc):
drops:
rises:
banned from uu:
-----------------------------------------------------------
SM RU won't be here for another 4 months or so, but a little early discussion as seen before XY and before ORAS can still be productive until we wait out the time. Do keep this thread relevant to RU only, and avoid discussing things that are very likely not to be in the tier (i.e. most Ultra Beasts) and things that just won't be relevant altogether (Like Air Slash Butterfree and Drill Peck Delibird). As a general rule of thumb, the Pokemon that are in BL2 and that are still in the tier are fair game for discussion.
Z move information:
-https://paste.ee/r/mvJ70
-http://pastebin.com/d5Hed1cw
Relevant Mechanics changes:
-Abilities such as Refrigerate now give a 1.2x boost instead of a 1.3x boost
-Thunder Wave is now 90% accurate and reduces Speed by 1/2 and not 1/4
-Destiny Bond now has a chance to fail if used repeatedly, much like Protect
-Gale Wings now only works if the Pokemon using it is at full health
-Diamond Storm now boosts Defenses by +2
-Confusion nerfed from 50% chance to hit to 33%
-Weak Armor now boosts Speed by +2 in addition to lowering the defense by -1
-Burn damage has been reduced to 1/16 of the user's max HP
-Leech Life now buffed to 80 BP
-Sucker Punch nerfed to 70 BP
-Dark-types are now immune to priority moves used by Prankster
-Mega Evolutions gain their stats and use of abilities at the moment they mega evolve, meaning Mega Banette will have its Speed at the start of the turn it Mega Evolves and can use Prankster turn 1
Relevant new moves for old Pokemon:
-Flygon + Dragon Dance
-Froslass + Will-O-Wisp
-Moltres + Burn Up
-Mantine + Roost (+20 HP)
-Sharpedo + Psychic Fangs
-Diancie + Power Gem
-Pangoro + Bullet Punch
Relevant new abilities for old Pokemon:
-Sandstream Gigalith
-Drought Torkoal
-Drizzle Pelipper
-Slush Rush Beartic
What can RU expect next gen?
-Weather might play an important role next gen given the presence of a good Sandstream user in Gigalith, which doubles up as a good Flying and Fire check with Sand special defense boost and the introduction of Slush Rush for hail (hail version of Swift Swim)
-Introduction of Z moves opens up the door for new strategies to execute supporting win conditions and breaking down defensive cores
-New Alolan forms such as Ninetales, Exeggutor, Marowak, Muk, Raichu and Sandslash
-New Pokemon such as Mimikyu, Silvally, Drampa, Decidueye, Rimbombee, Lycanroc, Turotnator, and Palossand
-Power creep pushing some OU/UU Pokemon and even some mega evolutions down to RU
Feel free to discuss anything else that comes to mind!