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NOC Smallstreet Mafia v2 Won by the Mafia (Clouds, Ehmcee, Dead By Daylight, Duskfall98)

If that's true then I would immediately suspect the alignments of Clouds, Tommy, and M2H. Maybe my half-joke vote on M2H will turn into a real wagon, that'd be fun!

unless recruit doesn't get informed until some time after daystart, which seems like a bad way to resolve it, then i can confirm i wasn't recruited

re: fruit vendor, it probably doesn't get selected on a mafia team that didn't use a recruit given the caveat
 
i'm pretty against massclaim for today but i'm open to it after a night or two have passed by so that we're not just massclaiming on no info

at that point i'm cool with massclaim and think it's a fair time to try to force progress
 
By the way, Samoyed WAS a magia fruit vendor in the last game. But that game demonstrated perfectly why its a bad choice for mafia. And jalmont confirmed the FV couldnt use a factional block or cop either, which last game Im not sure that was even enforced
 
It's worth noting that roles in this are probably very alignment indicative.

this is also exactly why i support it come D2 or D3, D3 would just be to give both trackers a night & for insurance for other info roles

honestly one of the roles i least expect mafia to pick is governor, but maybe that's too rooted in what i think would be too -ev with minimal upside

-10 credits for a low impact ability that also doesn't do much for image, one of those things you just browse past on the catalogue i think
 
Also people better not be """townslipping""" by pretending they dont know the recruit is picked, not rand. I asked this in the other thread publicly so you jokers couldnt go "oops look at me I townslipped, teee heee"

yeah, echoed my thoughts at least with the flanders ask

it read like the type of way i'd expect mafia trying to fake townslip to phrase said fake townslip

this is undeniably partly influenced by the fact that he bolded it

writing this out makes it look a little sillier than it seemed in my head, so i'm not gonna give it much merit for now
 
this is also exactly why i support it come D2 or D3, D3 would just be to give both trackers a night & for insurance for other info roles

honestly one of the roles i least expect mafia to pick is governor, but maybe that's too rooted in what i think would be too -ev with minimal upside

-10 credits for a low impact ability that also doesn't do much for image, one of those things you just browse past on the catalogue i think
to add to this: think of the use cases for governor as mafia

if you use it on a partner that's at risk of being voted, you basically chain yourself to your partner if they flip and vice versa unless you can play it off as too outrageous to be partner behavior. or you could use it on a partner that's not at risk, but to pretty much no benefit

so then you're looking at a role that mafia would have to spend 10 credits on just to probably wind up using on a villager

it flat out sucks for mafia, there's no reason to choose it and it's not a role that conventionally makes you look better in thread. while i won't rule anything out on roles alone, that's the role i'm least suspicious of by defaut

whoever my governor is out there, i trust you as far as i can throw you
 
this is also exactly why i support it come D2 or D3, D3 would just be to give both trackers a night & for insurance for other info roles

honestly one of the roles i least expect mafia to pick is governor, but maybe that's too rooted in what i think would be too -ev with minimal upside

-10 credits for a low impact ability that also doesn't do much for image, one of those things you just browse past on the catalogue i think
Governor was picked by DS last game and they actually did successfully self-govern. I agree that role would be way low on my list to draft.

Trackers make sense because you deny town possible red checks and can sclut healers with them. One healer makes sense so you can prevent them from cross targeting forever. Otherwise, I think any low cost role other than FV is fine. I agree with M2H the restless spirit is a pretty stilted pick for mafia.
 
Governor was picked by DS last game and they actually did successfully self-govern. I agree that role would be way low on my list to draft.

Trackers make sense because you deny town possible red checks and can sclut healers with them. One healer makes sense so you can prevent them from cross targeting forever. Otherwise, I think any low cost role other than FV is fine. I agree with M2H the restless spirit is a pretty stilted pick for mafia.
ah neat, i didn't see the mafia team outside of the universal backup due to the role being flipped in the thread recap post

agree on both the tracker & healer fronts, though both seem like the most obvious choices in my eyes. though i know not everyone's gonna see through the same lens as me or factor that in the same when choosing roles, so it levels out

the cynic in me wants to find out mafia chose the double voter because i think that's a boss move
 
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