hello, first time post... I've seen people check other people's ratings in battle on showdown using some kind of chat command, but I don't know how they do it. can you explain how to do that?
Other than searching forums, you could try going into tier-specific PS! Rooms (such as https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/pu or whatever tier you're thinking of putting Quag in) and asking them; there are probably some knowledgeable people that can answer questions.I've been using Showdown on and off for a few years now, but I never actually utilized Smogon until just now... Where would I find in-depth play style or team explanations other than the strat dex? Like as in-depth as possible (specifically I want to find stuff about Quagsire in stall, but knowing where to look for similar specifics would be very helpful for future ventures).
It was the OU subforum, back in gen4. Gen5's was Dragonspiral Tower (later renamed OU), gen3's was Ever Grand Plateau, gen2's was Mt. Silver, and Gen1 was Indigo Plateau. They were later combined into the "Past Generations" subforum in a forum reshuffle during gen5 or something of the sort, and are now Ruins of Alph.Smogon used to have something called "Stark Mountain", right? What was it?
Welcome to Smogon!snip
The autoconfirmed limit exists not to alienate new users but rather block trolls and spammers. It work quite well in my experience, since those trolls can't get autoconfirmed accounts that aren't already punished at a rapid rate.the Showdown chatroom for advice and personal conversation is off-limits unless you've already won a ranked battle, and I can't imagine any other reason for that than that you're not desired there unless you already have someone else you know personally and can ask to tutor you.
Not exactly a simple question, but not a simple answer either. There are three pieces of advice I always give members of my tier’s community. One, everyone has to start somewhere. Two, grow at your own pace in your own way. Three, do what you enjoy. Nobody starts doing anything, Pokémon or not, and is an expert immediately. Everyone has to go through the phase of being confused, being unknown, and being inexperienced. Some people grow out of that faster than others, but that’s okay because you’re here to have fun the way you do.I worried for a long time about whether or not I should post this, but I figured that there's always someone out there who worries about the same thing and who doesn't want to ask.
While I know that it's not the intent of the site, sometimes it can seem very intimidating to suddenly become a part of a big, established community with many regulars and an established ranking system.
If I'm anything to go by (though you'd have to go far to find someone more neurotic), it can be hard to just challenge someone to a randbat, much less register a permanent username on Showdown. With a site that has so many badges, so many now-unavailable titles and so many regular big-name users, a system where you lose your badges if you aren't perpetually active, chatrooms where someone comes in and the whole chatroom greets them merrily by name, a ranking/voting system where your opinions are only welcome if you're already a skilled player, a connected Discord in addition to a hundred-plus different forums and Showdown chatrooms, a mentor system that's only open to people who already have ladder experience and a lot of people who're very vocal about maintaining the quality of the community, there's often the feeling that people have it just fine as is and newbies are an unwelcome distraction at best.
I've been reading analyses and articles since back about The Smog issue #37, which is already a good four and a half years ago, and sure, I've had a few randbats, but mostly I've ended up only using Showdown for matches with friends.
The reason why is that as soon as you go into a chatroom, you're faced with dozens of people chatting constantly like old friends, being online almost perpetually and maintaining contacts with each other. It's not rare that they're saying all sorts of unpleasant things about people in lower ranks or those trying their own teams, either (though I'm not going so far as to say it's all that common, either). In addition, there's a Discord on top of this, meaning that someone trying to get a foot in the door would have to resign themselves to a phone that pings all night in order to have even the remotest chance of getting recognized.
The people who get more than three upvotes on the forums usually have a sparkling ribbon of badges that would make a four-starred general blush.
When you predict something wrong in a randbat or don't know an intricate mechanic, like Prankster not working on Dark-types, your opponent often just says "gg" even if you're two turns in like you've already lost.
The more I write, the more I realize that it's unnecessarily rude and distrustful to the community to run my mouth, and that half of it is probably (provably) me being a sore loser and too self-conscious, but in short it often feels to me like Smogon and by extension Showdown are sites and communities that would by far prefer it if you waited for some big-name user like Zarel to personally take a liking to you and invite you to the community.
The amount of socialization and what could less flatteringly be called Discord brown-nosing seems intimidating and ultimately pointless, since your badges will be taken away if you aren't a constant contributor.
Your votes are only welcome if you're ranked highly on the ladder, but you pause for even one day and your rating slides down and down and down.
It just feels to me as if Smogon is a community that would be the happiest if the homepage was a password prompt. It feels like so many members feel pressured by newbies to be welcoming and open to new players when they'd rather just have the opportunity to be left alone with their friends and chat and play without constantly being besieged by people who only want to play a few matches a week.
I do want to play, but it feels like I have to prepare myself for an eternity of waking up in the middle of the night because the Discord pinged and there's a tournament/someone like Zarel came on and now it's do or die.
Smogon is an incredibly interesting and informative community, but once in a while it seems like people are genuinely not needed or wanted unless they're the friend of someone who can mentor them and introduce them to other people in the community before they even have their first randbat.
I really apologize for posting stuff like this in a thread that's explicitly about "simple questions and suggestions", but the Showdown chatroom for advice and personal conversation is off-limits unless you've already won a ranked battle, and I can't imagine any other reason for that than that you're not desired there unless you already have someone else you know personally and can ask to tutor you. This is the closest place I can find.
TL;DR: I'm the kind of person who worries too much about too little, and want an honest answer for both my sake and other newbies' as to whether I can just pop in a few times a week for a randbat, or go for a rank without constantly maintaining my chatroom contacts and being on Discord, because once in a while it really seems as if what the Smogon community longs for the most is the opportunity to say "get out, we're full, if we want you we'll tell you" and getting miserable because it can't.
I think the above people did a very good job responding to your overall point, however, as an experienced ladderer on one UM, I can say that the general animosity you may sometimes feel when people talk about newbies is generally directed to those with an unwillingness to learn about the meta/tier. Most users that aren't trolls are completely fine with you running theme teams on ladder, or battling with their favorite pokemon. You're solely doing that for fun, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, most people do not like users who show anger towards learning whatever tier they are playing, thinking they know better than mods/experienced users when they are unironically using a Delcatty in RU. Sometimes it may come off like more known users dislike newbies, but in reality they just dislike people who blatantly disregard advice, and don't bother trying to learn about the meta when they are trying to play it seriously. As long as you don't be arrogant, or do some of the things I said, there shouldn't be anyone coming after you. Hope this helps! :)It's not rare that they're saying all sorts of unpleasant things about people in lower ranks or those trying their own teams, either (though I'm not going so far as to say it's all that common, either).
Can we get an F in the chat for Kris' lack of programmer badge even nowI enjoy programming and I wanted to give back to PS, so I started fixing bugs and (eventually) programming new features. This lead to me rising through the ranks, expanding my contributions to PS's policy areas too, and receiving these badges as well.
I am a recent joiner of this community, having only been here for a few months, and I feel like I have had almost none of the issues you seem to face. The people above have made excellent points, and i advise the same as they. It is intimidating to be in a community that is so active with so many people, and i do agree that the login and register interface is seriously fucked up. It's not intuitive by any means, and your idea of a login/register screen as the home page makes a lot of sense. As for the autoconfirmed part, it should not be hard for you to get autoconfirmed. Just wait a week, play some randbats, and you will be confirmed. (there should be better autoconfirming methods, i agree, perhaps running it by a moderator in a special confirming chat room or smth).snip