Smogon Simple Questions & Suggestions Thread

Mowtom

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I've seen some people requesting for commands for types, like :ice:, :fairy: w/e, and I think that's very useful too. Also, I can't seem to get any gen 3 sprites. both :adv/pikachu: and :rse/pikachu: don't show any sprites
Where have you seen people requesting these? I've looked and can't find any discussion of this feature anywhere on the forum.
 
I've messed with Showdown and comp play on and off for years now, and I'd like to get into it more. Unfortunately, I have no idea how I'm supposed to get started on this site. Every discussion I've seen is stuff that I don't know enough about to contribute to, and I've seen many people suggesting I hold off on starting a thread for a while. I mainly just want to find some people to talk to, get more comfortable in the community, and learn more about teambuilding and the various metagames. I seriously don't know where to go.
 

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I've messed with Showdown and comp play on and off for years now, and I'd like to get into it more. Unfortunately, I have no idea how I'm supposed to get started on this site. Every discussion I've seen is stuff that I don't know enough about to contribute to, and I've seen many people suggesting I hold off on starting a thread for a while. I mainly just want to find some people to talk to, get more comfortable in the community, and learn more about teambuilding and the various metagames. I seriously don't know where to go.
Have you joined the Smogon Discord server. There we have several users who could help you and provide real-time feedback regarding any questions / concerns you may have. Click this to join the official server.
 

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Is there any easier way to get alerted for all the suspect tests happening around across all tiers?
Afaik, other than clicking on "Watch" on all metagames forums so you get notified when a suspect test thread is posted, no.

Make also sure you have this enabled (Profile -> Preferences)
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I don't know where to post this. Is there any resource to filter pokemons by multiple moves or abilities that you could point me to?
For example let's say I wanted to see all pokes that can use Spikes and Stealth Rock at the same time, or any other combination of moves/abilities.
Is there a way to do that? Please help and thanks.
 
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I don't know where to post this. Is there any resource to filter pokemons by multiple moves or abilities that you could point me to?
For example let's say I wanted to see all pokes that can use Spikes and Stealth Rock at the same time, or any other combination of moves/abilities.
Is there a way to do that? Please help and thanks.
the ps teambuilder can do that for you! click create team for any given tier and then put the moves/abilities/etc you want in the search bar and it'll show you every pokemon that can do that.
for example, if you want every pokemon that learns stealth rock + spikes in UU or below:

hope that helps o/
 
I don't know where to post this. Is there any resource to filter pokemons by multiple moves or abilities that you could point me to?
For example let's say I wanted to see all pokes that can use Spikes and Stealth Rock at the same time, or any other combination of moves/abilities.
Is there a way to do that? Please help and thanks.
Tagging on to what Lilburr said, if you're more comfortable with text commands in the vein of minecraft commands or command line stuff, you can go into any Pokemon Showdown chat room (including public rooms and battle chats) and type in:
Code:
/ds spikes, stealth rock
or
Code:
/ds move 1, move 2
to find a pokemon with that combo of moves. The command is really robust and you can use it to search for a bunch of strange combinations of abilities/moves/types. (To see more type in '/help ds')
 
Hey I have an idea

Basically I was wondering if it would be possible to create a separate space for those of us without PR access to discuss PR threads. I know you'll want to keep PR pure for the elites and their stooges, but I was thinking if there was like a subforum where PR threads/posts were automatically mirrored or something, that plebs such as myself, who really care about competitive pokemon and have actively contributed to the community at large but haven't concerned themselves as much with gratifying your bureaucracy, can comment on proposed changes. As mentioned, this would be a separate space, so you'd be free to ignore the masses like you currently do, it's just it would be nice to, you know, talk about this shit without spamming the respective subforum every time someone brings up something worth discussing. As it stands it feels like I can't even discuss many changes or otherwise voice my opinion because I haven't kissed enough ass, and suppressing speech doesn't seem like something that's a good idea for place dedicated to discussion, such as an internet forum.

If you decide you actually care about your community, there could even be some measure to nominate or vote certain posts to be added to the actual PR thread, thus eliminating the need for proxy posting, but I know I'm dreaming big here, perhaps my grand vision is too much for smogon staffers to handle- imagine, smogon, actually respecting the community, even those as semi-independent as the RBY community. No, perhaps I am too bold... I'm sure this will never happen.
 
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Hey I have an idea

Basically I was wondering if it would be possible to create a separate space for those of us without PR access to discuss PR threads. I know you'll want to keep PR pure for the elites and their stooges, but I was thinking if there was like a subforum where PR threads/posts were automatically mirrored or something, that plebs such as myself, who really care about competitive pokemon and have actively contributed to the community at large but haven't concerned themselves as much with gratifying your bureaucracy, can comment on proposed changes. As mentioned, this would be a separate space, so you'd be free to ignore the masses like you currently do, it's just it would be nice to, you know, talk about this shit without spamming the respective subforum every time someone brings up something worth discussing. As it stands it feels like I can't even discuss many changes or otherwise voice my opinion because I haven't kissed enough ass, and suppressing speech doesn't seem like something that's a good idea for place dedicated to discussion, such as an internet forum.

If you decide you actually care about your community, there could even be some measure to nominate or vote certain posts to be added to the actual PR thread, thus eliminating the need for proxy posting, but I know I'm dreaming big here, perhaps my grand vision is too much for smogon staffers to handle- imagine, smogon, actually respecting the community, even those as semi-independent as the RBY community. No, perhaps I am too bold... I'm sure this will never happen.
This minus the sass.

Seriously, it's a good idea.
 
Hello, I am interested in making custom metagames. I've searched but the results seemed too technical, is there any step by step how to customize data like move power and typing etc?
 

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Hey I have an idea

Basically I was wondering if it would be possible to create a separate space for those of us without PR access to discuss PR threads. I know you'll want to keep PR pure for the elites and their stooges, but I was thinking if there was like a subforum where PR threads/posts were automatically mirrored or something, that plebs such as myself, who really care about competitive pokemon and have actively contributed to the community at large but haven't concerned themselves as much with gratifying your bureaucracy, can comment on proposed changes. As mentioned, this would be a separate space, so you'd be free to ignore the masses like you currently do, it's just it would be nice to, you know, talk about this shit without spamming the respective subforum every time someone brings up something worth discussing. As it stands it feels like I can't even discuss many changes or otherwise voice my opinion because I haven't kissed enough ass, and suppressing speech doesn't seem like something that's a good idea for place dedicated to discussion, such as an internet forum.

If you decide you actually care about your community, there could even be some measure to nominate or vote certain posts to be added to the actual PR thread, thus eliminating the need for proxy posting, but I know I'm dreaming big here, perhaps my grand vision is too much for smogon staffers to handle- imagine, smogon, actually respecting the community, even those as semi-independent as the RBY community. No, perhaps I am too bold... I'm sure this will never happen.
lol @ calling PR "elites and their stooges". i have pr access because i laddered, got reqs, and voted 4 times. i know there are at least 200 other users in a same boat. shits really not that hard to get.

if you are really an active contributor to the community at large, you'll have a badge in a manner of weeks or months. from a cursory look at your posting history, i see you've started doing C&C for RBY. yes, this will get you a badge assuming good quality and/or volume of work and nonproblematic behavior in a relatively short period of time, and you, too, can join the smogon elite! getting your first badge has nothing to do with kissing ass and everything to do with contribution.

you mentioned proxy posting so i assume you're aware of how it works, but if you feel that you have a compelling opinion to add to a discussion, you can ask someone that has PR access to post for you. if they think your opinion is compelling and doesn't blatantly shit on people that have contributed 1000x the amount you have to "the community at large" (so, your post above), they'll post it. i don't know what the requirements are for PR access, but i would assume that if you repeatedly show that you have compelling contributions to discussions, you can ask a senior staff member for access.

as for your suggestion about the subforum mirroring PR but being open to unbadged members....if this is the type of post and you are the type of poster that is expected to populate this subforum, i would say that the subforum is going to be pretty uninformed and unproductive. so i wouldn't hold my breath on it happening.
 
Make it so if you get 4 infraction points for posting one-liners, you just get muted. If you have infraction points for other reasons, such as analysis plagiarism, or breaking forum rules, the normal ban still applies.
 

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Make it so if you get 4 infraction points for posting one-liners, you just get muted. If you have infraction points for other reasons, such as analysis plagiarism, or breaking forum rules, the normal ban still applies.
Why, what does that change from a regular ban?
 
Why, what does that change from a regular ban?
I personally feel that a ban for simply making a short post is too harsh of a punishment.

Also eye-for-an-eye type stuff. If all of your infractions were caused by chatting, well... you cant chat. Also if you end up getting muted for the same reason 3 times in a row, on the third time, you get banned.

Also also, make it so forumbanned people can only see and post in ban appeals. You cant make an appeal if you cant use the forums.
 

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I personally feel that a ban for simply making a short post is too harsh of a punishment.
Getting 4 infractions points from 4 separate infractions for example is not "a ban for simply making a short post".
Also eye-for-an-eye type stuff. If all of your infractions were caused by chatting, well... you cant chat. Also if you end up getting muted for the same reason 3 times in a row, on the third time, you get banned.
Again, how's that a change from how it currently is?
Also also, make it so forumbanned people can only see and post in ban appeals. You cant make an appeal if you cant use the forums.
Most get around this by making someone else proxy post for them, and I also don't know how XenForo limitations work if this is would even possible.
 
Got a flurry of questions.

What are points, how do you get them and why are they one of the main things displayed on a user's profile when 99% of the profiles I see have 0 points?

Also out of curiosity which user has the most points?

Why are banned profiles not available to view?

Lastly, how does one get negative amount of likes/reactions? I once saw a user with negative reactions.
 

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What are points, how do you get them and why are they one of the main things displayed on a user's profile when 99% of the profiles I see have 0 points?
They don't serve any purpose in terms of Smogon, they're a thing of XenForo that we don't utilize.
Also out of curiosity which user has the most points?
Don't know, the only ones that have them are those that got them just for the fun of it by some SS or gave them to themselves.
Why are banned profiles not available to view?
They're only accessible by mods and above, it's not something regular users need to interact with really.
Lastly, how does one get negative amount of likes/reactions? I once saw a user with negative reactions.
That's done manually, usually to banned users trying to farm likes or something.
 
lol @ calling PR "elites and their stooges".
Lol @ typing this and following it up with a post as condescending as yours.
lol @ calling PR "elites and their stooges". i have pr access because i laddered, got reqs, and voted 4 times. i know there are at least 200 other users in a same boat. shits really not that hard to get.

if you are really an active contributor to the community at large, you'll have a badge in a manner of weeks or months. from a cursory look at your posting history, i see you've started doing C&C for RBY. yes, this will get you a badge assuming good quality and/or volume of work and nonproblematic behavior in a relatively short period of time, and you, too, can join the smogon elite! getting your first badge has nothing to do with kissing ass and everything to do with contribution.

you mentioned proxy posting so i assume you're aware of how it works, but if you feel that you have a compelling opinion to add to a discussion, you can ask someone that has PR access to post for you. if they think your opinion is compelling and doesn't blatantly shit on people that have contributed 1000x the amount you have to "the community at large" (so, your post above), they'll post it. i don't know what the requirements are for PR access, but i would assume that if you repeatedly show that you have compelling contributions to discussions, you can ask a senior staff member for access.

as for your suggestion about the subforum mirroring PR but being open to unbadged members....if this is the type of post and you are the type of poster that is expected to populate this subforum, i would say that the subforum is going to be pretty uninformed and unproductive. so i wouldn't hold my breath on it happening.
Since you've been through my posting history, I suppose you'll note that the analyses I've written have received absolutely no significant response whatsoever. Literally one person cared enough to give me feedback. Everything else got ignored, a pattern that persists across other RBY analyses, as many are/were languishing in that forum for months without anyone doing anything

When I research unearthed mechanics in RBY, my findings get ignored and buried for over 2 years before anyone seriously discusses them. When people do discuss them, discussion has unsurprisingly regressed to the point where I might as well have never done anything

Even when I try to help in other ways, like taking on the tedious task of linking every pokemon in the ORAS Ubers VR thread to their respective analysis, my post gets ignored (I think it's amusing that my bitchy edit hasn't been removed as of yet).

On the flipside, I've hosted tournaments regularly for years, written countless analyses and filled a prominent leadership role for the RBY community on Pokemon Perfect, which has only in recent years lost its mantle as the home of RBY. I daresay that you may scoff at claiming work contributed on another site as being substantial here, but that distinction means little in the context of the RBY community, which has historically migrated between various forums, often being active on several forums simultaneously. It's no exaggeration to say that RBY on Smogon would be nowhere close to what it is today without the work done on Pokemon Perfect, and I've played no small part in helping with that. I apologise for being the one to toot my own horn, but I really feel this is a reasonable representation of my role in the RBY community and accurately reflects the importance of non-Smogon communities within the broader RBY community.

Again, I understand that you may dismiss my past contributions to the community based on the fact that they mostly came on a site other than smogon, but as mentioned, that distinction is totally arbitrary in the context of RBY, and it's not as though I'm asking for a position of authority. I'm merely asking for a reasonable opportunity to voice my opinion, which I believe is of value based on my role within the community. When deprived of that opportunity (especially since contributing on Smogon consistently goes unrewarded and unrecognised), is it really any surprise that it feels like one's voice is being suppressed, and that views of smogon and its bureaucracy become antagonistic?

On a thread that will eventually link back to antagonism, your line of "just ladder for suspect tests, it's ez" is something that really doesn't apply, given that I predominantly play RBY- what suspect tests can I ladder for? I suppose I could pick up tiers for the sake of getting TC badges, but then am I really contributing to the community, or am I just whoring my way to PR access? It's a path I refuse to take, because I'm going to stick to what I'm truly passionate about- RBY (I also have a passing interest in ubers across all gens bar 1 and 4, for reference). The only thing resembling a suspect test that was held recently didn't even offer that kind of opportunity, instead it explicitly excluded prominent members of the community, which was nothing if not antagonistic.

Despite all that, I genuinely do want to contribute my insights and ideas to the competitive pokemon community, and I accept that despite my disgust for smogon, working with it is the only pragmatic possibility for this. Although my post was blatantly trolling, the core idea was a sincere suggestion, and people that well, know me better, know that I am still looking to develop ideas in a constructive manner, not merely to troll.

Obligatory note that this post is meaningless, since I know you're not the person to raise these concerns with, but man I just want to express it anyway
 

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