honestly as far as the pert discussion goes people have literally been nomming it down repeatedly for the entirety of the DLC2 meta but there’s a reason it’s never dropped- literally nothing has changed for pert as far as the role it serves in the tier goes so B remains appropriate. It’s done the same thing it’s always done to the same degree of effectiveness since October. Compare it to something like Moltres (no, I’m not saying it’s competing with moltres or anything like that lol, just hear me out) where Molt’s traits have become less valuable or relevant as the meta has evolved- Molt was good for beating Pheromosa, Genesect, Heatran, etc but two of them were banned and better Heatran counterplay was used instead. Things changed for Molt and it lost relevancy. Pert has always done exactly what it still does just as well so therefore nothing has happened to make it worse. Even trends like the rises of SpD Hippo and SpD Lando and even SpD Gastro that supposedly compete with pert aren’t necessarily changes for what pert fulfills because they don’t fit better than pert on the teams that pert best fits on (ie gterrain offenses). tldr pert is still same old pert and b or b- is fine.I've seen some replies to the Pert post and yes I may have overreacted a bit as Pert isn't that doodoo but yeah B- is about right. It is a bit annoying to kill sometimes and slow pivoting is great, however a lot of what I said in the post still stands. I'm also aware that we cant just drop it but its still funny that its OU.