Project SS OU Lure That Threat!

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Milo

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Congratulations to Snapteryx for winning this week of Lure that Threat!

Our new threat will be...
:ss/zapdos-galar:
Zapdos-Galar @ Choice Band
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

- Brave Bird
- Close Combat
- Thunderous Kick

- U-turn

How will YOU lure this threat? Submissions end Friday!​
 
chople berry blissey

Blissey @ Chople Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Teleport
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
- Counter

252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 517-610 (72.4 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chople Berry Blissey: 517-610 (72.4 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Thunderous Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chople Berry Blissey: 390-459 (54.6 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
enemy zapdos clicks one of these moves they die to counter
 
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:ss/kartana:
Kartana @ Life Orb
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Aerial Ace
-
Sacred Sword

While it's not a particularly solid check, Gapdos can be annoying for a Kartana that hasn't already begun to snowball, since the threat of an OHKO from any STAB move makes setting up difficult, and Gapdos can survive even a +2 Leaf Blade. With Aerial Ace, Kartana can KO Gapdos at +2, or after prior damage from Leaf Blade or Sacred Sword. As an added bonus, it's also your strongest option against Buzzwole.

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zapdos-Galar: 268-316 (83.4 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Aerial Ace vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zapdos-Galar: 478-564 (148.9 - 175.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Reserving dragon dance Tyranitar

Dragon Dance Tyranitar

:ss/tyranitar:

:tyranitar:Tyranitar @ Expert Belt :expert-belt:
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch / Heavy Slam
- Dragon Dance

This set takes advantage of Tyranitar being quad weak to fighting and OHKOs Galarian Zapdos by using dragon dance on the switch. Literally no one would expect dragon dance because it's a set only really used in screens mono dark and some people don't even know Tyranitar gets Dragon Dance. Expert Belt is for securing the OHKO while still having a jolly nature. Adamant can kill without expert belt but jolly is more worthwhile because you can actually outspeed Garchomp and base 110 pokemon like Gengar or Latios. And at +2, you can outspeed mons like Tapu Lele and Arctozolt. The 3rd move depends on what matchup you're weaker to. Fire punch is for bulky steel types + Ferrothorn while Heavy Slam is for fairy types.

:tyranitar:->:zapdos-galar:+1 252 Atk Expert Belt Tyranitar Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Zapdos-Galar: 326-386 (101.5 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Melmetal @ Chople Berry
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 244 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Double Iron Bash
- Toxic
- Superpower
- Earthquake

This is a modified variant of the tox/tect set melmetal has. I removed protect because without the leftovers recovery protect is not necessary. Chople berry is a good lure not only for gapdos but also the other pokemon with fighting type moves (mainly kart and tapu lele). I ran superpower over protect because it helps to hit kart (which it can lure with this set), ferro and balloon tran on the switch. I still have toxic for applying pressure on landot, chomp and buzzwole.

252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chople Berry Melmetal: 210-247 (51 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Milo

I'm Your Man
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Voting is up! Ends Sunday!
chople berry blissey

Blissey @ Chople Berry
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Teleport
- Soft-Boiled
- Seismic Toss
- Counter

252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 517-610 (72.4 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chople Berry Blissey: 517-610 (72.4 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Thunderous Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Chople Berry Blissey: 390-459 (54.6 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
enemy zapdos clicks one of these moves they die to counter
:ss/kartana:
Kartana @ Life Orb
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Aerial Ace
-
Sacred Sword

While it's not a particularly solid check, Gapdos can be annoying for a Kartana that hasn't already begun to snowball, since the threat of an OHKO from any STAB move makes setting up difficult, and Gapdos can survive even a +2 Leaf Blade. With Aerial Ace, Kartana can KO Gapdos at +2, or after prior damage from Leaf Blade or Sacred Sword. As an added bonus, it's also your strongest option against Buzzwole.

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Leaf Blade vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zapdos-Galar: 268-316 (83.4 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Kartana Aerial Ace vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Zapdos-Galar: 478-564 (148.9 - 175.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Reserving dragon dance Tyranitar

Dragon Dance Tyranitar

:ss/tyranitar:

:tyranitar:Tyranitar @ Expert Belt :expert-belt:
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stone Edge
- Ice Punch
- Fire Punch / Heavy Slam
- Dragon Dance

This set takes advantage of Tyranitar being quad weak to fighting and OHKOs Galarian Zapdos by using dragon dance on the switch. Literally no one would expect dragon dance because it's a set only really used in screens mono dark and some people don't even know Tyranitar gets Dragon Dance. Expert Belt is for securing the OHKO while still having a jolly nature. Adamant can kill without expert belt but jolly is more worthwhile because you can actually outspeed Garchomp and base 110 pokemon like Gengar or Latios. And at +2, you can outspeed mons like Tapu Lele and Arctozolt. The 3rd move depends on what matchup you're weaker to. Fire punch is for bulky steel types + Ferrothorn while Heavy Slam is for fairy types.

:tyranitar:->:zapdos-galar:+1 252 Atk Expert Belt Tyranitar Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Zapdos-Galar: 326-386 (101.5 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Melmetal @ Chople Berry
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 252 HP / 244 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Double Iron Bash
- Toxic
- Superpower
- Earthquake

This is a modified variant of the tox/tect set melmetal has. I removed protect because without the leftovers recovery protect is not necessary. Chople berry is a good lure not only for gapdos but also the other pokemon with fighting type moves (mainly kart and tapu lele). I ran superpower over protect because it helps to hit kart (which it can lure with this set), ferro and balloon tran on the switch. I still have toxic for applying pressure on landot, chomp and buzzwole.

252 Atk Choice Band Zapdos-Galar Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chople Berry Melmetal: 210-247 (51 - 60%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Milo

I'm Your Man
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Congratulations to Ruparajan for winning this week of Lure that Threat!
Our new threat is
:ss/regieleki:
Regieleki @ Choice Specs
Ability: Transistor
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Volt Switch

- Rapid Spin
- Thunderbolt

- Explosion

How will YOU lure this threat? Submissions end Friday!
 
Reserving protect nidoking

I know a ground type Regieleki lure sounds
counterproductive, just hear me out


:ss/nidoking:

:nidoking:Nidoking (M) @ Life Orb:life-orb:
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Sludge Wave
- Earth Power
- Ice Beam
- Protect

Well, neither can anything else. Regieleki is impossible to consistently lure by conventional means. Keep in mind that Regieleki users are aware of it's massive ground weakness + it's nonexistent bulk and are insanely cautious about it. If they expect a switch into an electric immunity, they just double switch immediately. If they expect anything else, they'll volt switch and only occasionally use thunderbolt. Poisoned by something? Spamming volt switch minimizes toxic damage. Try to use agility or rock polish? You can bet Regieleki already switched out while you were setting up. A wallbreaker with an ev spread/item that prevents Regieleki from killing it? By the time it lands a hit, Regieleki would have already volt switched out of reality.

Given just how often Regieleki spams volt switch over anything else, a lure that isn't immune to volt switch would rely on the opponent misplaying for it to even function most of the time. Another option would to give a passive water or flying type a ground move. The only pokemon that even fill this role that Regieleki can safely switch into (while still being viable in ou) are Slowbro, Slowking and Celesteela. They don't even OHKO. Celesteela can OHKO with 188 attack evs but defensive celesteela isn't viable in OU and you're making it even less viable by sacrificing a huge amount of bulk. While I could think of a shitton of lures that work in theory, not a single one would work in practice without the opponent misplaying. Volt switch essentially invalidates most if not all lures that aren't immune to electric. If anything, an electric immunity is the main reason my lure even works.
"If you can't lure Regieleki with an electric weakness, how can you lure it with a ground t-" Explosion. I was originally gonna do this with volt absorb Zeraora, but a lot more things can switch into Zeraora than a Nidoking. If switching out puts you at risk to a super effective hit on your other teammates, that might incentivize the Regieleki to explode for a safe switch. That's when you use protect and watch the Regieleki commit Mark Heathcliff for 0 damage. Losing flamethrower isn't incredibly bad since you still 2HKO Ferrothorn and Buzzwole. Protect also has an ok general use of scouting other choice locked pokemon. Chilan Berry was tempting but it has absolutely zero use outside of beating explosion and life orb is just a lot more valuable on Nidoking.
Considering the fact that Regieleki is a borderline unlurable menace to society that probably shouldn't have been included in a lure making competition, this is surprisingly not horrible.

:slowbro::slowking:0 Atk Slowbro / Slowking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 196-232 (65.1 - 77%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
:celesteela:4 Atk Celesteela Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 252-298 (83.7 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
:zapdos:252 SpA Zapdos Hyper Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Regieleki: 273-322 (90.6 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
 
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blooclipse

formerly Bluecliqse
Incendiary Electrical Wires A Problem? Not Anymore!
:ss/krookodile:
Krookodile @ Life Orb / Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate / Moxie (whatever both live boom)
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Stone Edge / Close Combat
- Close Combat / Stealth Rock​

Not much likes switching into krook for fear of losing their item or taking a giant hit. You eat leki boom (-1 0- Atk Regieleki Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krookodile: 130-153 (39.2 - 46.2%) with intimidate or 0- Atk Regieleki Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Krookodile: 194-229 (58.6 - 69.1%) w/o) and you can do whatever you want.
Leki is incentivized into going nuclear because nothing like switching into krook and since it finds itself on electricspam a lot it likes to get chip on the ground type.
literally just stealth rock if you have an eleki in front of you because it doesnt matter and try not to chip yourself into range through lo recoil lol
 
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Boots future sight tapu lele

Tapu Lele @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Psychic Surge
EVs: 252 SpA / 32 SpD / 224 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Future Sight
- Focus Blast

This tapu lele set is dedicated for fs. This set helps many ho teams to break through stall. It's drop-in speed does not matter due to it outspeeding everything timid 252 speed can outspeed (excluding the speed tie with itself). The 32 s.def helps in avoiding the ohko and the tapu lele can then ohko the regieleki back.

252 SpA Choice Specs Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 32 SpD Tapu Lele: 237-280 (84.3 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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