I would rather be able to beat reliably that guy still running Corsola-Galar in 2020, there is basically no downside in running 101 HP subs anyway.I would change up the EV spread a little
Having 56 HP and 4 SpD was only useful for Chansey’s Seismic Toss and not being OHKO’d by Mega Charizard Y, neither of which exist in the game.
*Icicle crashes dugtrio/dragapult*Probably an unpopular opinion: Free Darmanitan
with the addition of pokemon home I think it wouldn’t be too bad to unban it
Rotom H gets smacked by sludge bomb too (which every saur should be running).The only checks I see it having are Rotom-H, Dragapult and possibly Renculus
A defensive core of Mandibuzz and Rhyperior could be useful in this case. Mandibuzz can handle the Drag and Reuni (especially since Thunder is only 50% in sun) while providing defog and u-turn support into Darm/Duggy and Rhyperior would be able to switch into Rotom fearing nothing while giving up no volt switch momentum and providing rocks support/a fire resist.Yeah Venusaur is going to be scary AF now in the Sun
The only checks I see it having are Rotom-H ,Dragapult and possibly Renculus
The complaints about Duggy are valid. I don't think anyone is arguing in favor of it making the meta healthy. The only reason it seems to still exist is (apparently) because of SPL? Somewhat understandable, though frustrating.I know you guys love to rip on the council for literally everything, without realizing it takes time to have proper discussions to come to a decision, but I'd really appreciate if you left it out of this thread. All it does is severely tank the quality of discussion. Let's stick to discussing the metagame at hand. I will delete any posts that complain about the council's inaction after what has literally been just two days.
Drain Punch has around 84% as much damage output as Body Press. Not sure if there's any KOs you lose out on but Body Press doesn't hit all that much harder on a sp def spread.The best check / counter for Venusaur and Sun in general is Kommo-O:
Kommo-o @ Leftovers
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 172 SpD / 84 Spe
Careful Nature
- Dragon Tail
- Stealth Rock
- Body Press
- Toxic
I forgot what the Speed EV's were exactly for, but you use this utility mon basically as a hard counter to Venusaur and threaten your opponent with Rocks, Toxic and Press/Tail
Toxapex is set up batt for Keldo if it run TS instead of Toxic. Then the best pex can do is hope for a scald burn. Then at plus 6 pex stands no chanceI don't really see Jellicent being popular w/ Pex around, which is by far the best Keldeo counter (unless it got some coverage i don't know about?)
Also i didn't realize Clefable got Teleport but I still stand by my decision that Clef will worsen cuz of Home, and so will Corv. Hydreigon will probably be the best mon or maybe not cuz Terrakion enters the scene now.
and they gave ddance to kyub, a mon w/ 170 atk and 95 spe which is outstanding in this tier. with enough boosts it might just pull off a icicile spear set but it might be too unreliable
Basically the questions is rocks vs recovery (the stat differences and EP vs EQ are pretty minor if both are uninvested). It would probably depend on what you have/need on your team.My question: what would get more usage now that Gastrodon has Toxic back? Seismitoad or Gastrodon?
As much as I enjoy the idea of experimenting with weak ubers, we are into day 3 now with an extremely chaotic metagame that is trying to be figured out, and Kyurem-White of all things is by no means a contender for this.Kyurem White
Right now White is in Ubers but I think it could be OU. White puts the grass, steels, and water of the meta in check. But it can be stopped by Special Dragapult, Physical Life Orb Dragapult, Assault Vest Melmetal, all of the musketeers that have Band close combat or one SD close combat, Band Zeraora, etc. So I think Kyurem could come down.