+ Knock Off
now poses actual utility, knock off allows greater power on sd sets and has ways to screw lati over especially if its scarfed or specs since it will not hate losing it. Alongside other checks and counters to zarude such as zapdos, torn-t, dragonite, coba, crobat, volcarona, dragonite, etc. I believe this is a good change which can make it a more viable late game cleaner or annoy mons early game
+ Knock Off
idk... tbh i have 0 idea what turt is supposed to do lol. ill let other explains
+ Dry Skin
pretty good on paper, now no longer screwed over by fini, keldeo, rain, wishy, and some more water attacks. It gives it a lot of setup opportunities and can give it pretty good defensive value. I see this as an absolute win.
and + Hurricane
Gives it ways to hit latias, grasses, and neutral pokemon hard in rain as it now can abuse the 100% acc in rain to just launch these nukes. Thundy-i can now benefit outside of rain on HO or on offensive teams to have a powerful hurricane to hit grounds, and latias with to prevent it from being walled. I think this is the most improved...
+ Roost
def gyara rises up.
-1 252 Atk Sheer Force Darmanitan Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 75-89 (19 - 22.5%) -- possible 5HKO
-1 252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados on a critical hit: 117-141 (29.6 - 35.7%) -- approx. 20.3% chance to 3HKO
+1 252 SpA Volcarona Psychic vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gyarados: 152-179 (38.5 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-1 252 Atk Guts Obstagoon Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 150-177 (38 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-1 252+ Atk Iron Fist Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 78-92 (19.7 - 23.3%) -- approx. possible 5HKO
+1 252 Atk Life Orb Mold Breaker Haxorus Scale Shot (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 222-261 (56.3 - 66.2%) -- approx. 2HKO
yeah it does a lot esp with t wave support and can support its team a lot with its huge defensive utility
voting for gyara and thundy rn... may change my mind