Dragapult is undisputedly S tier. Specs, Life Orb Physical Mix, SubHex, and Dragon Dance are all viable and makes it a guessing game to play against. It certainly has it's counters, but luckily you have 5 other pokes.
I mean for starters, only the Specs and SubHex sets see decent usage, but even if you factor in SubDD, which has some fringe viability, then you still have decent overlap in counterplay due to the fact that it is super reliant on Dragon Darts as Phantom Force can prove to be costly in a pinch. Regardless of this, your post does not really highlight any actual information about why these sets are threatening to the extent an S tier Pokemon would be. Nobody is debating Dragapult being good in the current metagame, but versatility can only be a selling point for moving to a tier as high as S if it is backed up by actual depth of viability and offensive potency. In Dragapult's case, a majority of the counterplay to the focal sets overlaps and can function as near-universal answers. On top of this, the lack of physical movepool, especially when compared to the special movepool, makes it way more limited than you claim it is. I am not necessarily opposing the nomination so much as I believe that if someone where to argue for this or any other significant change (i.e: something moving to S rank), then they are going to need a lot more substance than this. Finally, if "luckily you have 5 other pokes" is a focal part of any argument, then you should take a step back and rethink your focus to begin with.Dragapult is undisputedly S tier. Specs, Life Orb Physical Mix, SubHex, and Dragon Dance are all viable and makes it a guessing game to play against. It certainly has it's counters, but luckily you have 5 other pokes.
I mean, it cannot beat Seismitoad, and there isn't much stopping most Pokémon from setting SR again after it uses Court Change, making that move useless.I would have to disagree with the nomination to move Cinderace down. I agree that Court Change may seem like a useless gimmick, but you have to keep in mind the pressure Cinderace applies just by showing up in Team Preview. If your primary strategy relies on screens or hazard stacking, you're either going to need to play very carefully or find a plan B. I acknowledge it's often underwhelming when it hits the field, but the pressure it applies from team Preview is rather consistent.
Court Change is not useless just because opponents can reset hazards, you run teams that apply offensive pressure to take advantage of the swapped hazards and prevent the hazards from being set up again. Cinderace also can use Taunt to prevent hazards on its own if it really needs to, and Seis isn’t a hard mon to wear down due to its lackluster recovery.I mean, it cannot beat Seismitoad, and there isn't much stopping most Pokémon from setting SR again after it uses Court Change, making that move useless.
Your replay of heliolisk is very biased because the team you showcased it against had no ground type to stop it mindlessly clicking volt switch. I'm not saying it doesn't deserve a rank but I thought this needed to be called out.Heliolisk UR --> Ranked
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This thing is a really solid and underrated pick in the meta, with dry skin providing a water immunity to check vish, having a really good speed tier of 109, outspeeding a huge proportion of the meta, and being a reliable pivot. It also has great coverage, having grass knot for seismitoad (and the less relevant gastro/quag), while being able to break exca with focus blast/surf (pretty much better coverage V accuracy). This guy has a legit and valid niche that deserves to be shown on the VR.
Replay (will look for more/better ones) https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1036338066
Thoughts on other shit:
Grimmsnarl is a cool, versatile mon that's useful both offensively and defensively as a nice dragapult answer thats not really passive, and can provide speed control via either prankster twave or sucker punch. I personally like 3 attacks sub on this, and would support a rise to B+.
Mew is really good, solid speed tier and obviously adaptable as hell, although less so with roost and fog gone from it. However, its offensive sets are much better bc most the better offensive threats are gone, is one of very few mons that can actually lure shit and its easily top 2 SR leads for offense now along with exca. I think this belongs in B along with antimeta picks like obstagoon rather than C+ with highly specific mons like flareon.
Rotom-H could probably drop now darms gone as theres a lot less reason to use it, although obviously its too early to make that call.
PS: Someone remind me to nom Appletun soon
Agree on maintaining Rotom-H for A+.I just wanted to defend Rotom-H for A+. I had a feeling that people were going to start nomming it down, but saying that it should drop just because Darm got banned completely ignores why it's so good in the first place. I think people heavily underrate just how much utility this Pokemon can give to teams and I really feel like it's one of those Pokemon that needs to be played a certain way to get the most out of it. I hate to quote one of my older posts but I feel like I explain my reasoning pretty well.
I did detail in my post that the replay wasn't exactly good, both me and the opp made questionable plays and I would try to get better ones once I had time, so I'm not exactly why you're calling out a replay I wasn't claiming to be good and only had there as a formality while I got better ones. I also detailed how Helio breaks through the grounds that try to volt block via grass knot and focus/surf, and here's an example of this where it does its job easily V seismitoad balance: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8ou-1038548287Your replay of heliolisk is very biased because the team you showcased it against had no ground type to stop it mindlessly clicking volt switch. I'm not saying it doesn't deserve a rank but I thought this needed to be called out.