Aerodactyl direly needs to be banned from gen 4 STABmons. It has two reliable switchins, being Forretress and Hippowdon, and sits in the highest viable unboosted Speed tier.DPP STAB Important Mechanical Changes:
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- Team Preview does not exist.
- Magic Coat does not block hazards, Taunt, or Torment.
- Explosion and Self-Destruct have their base power doubled.
- Encore lasts for 3 to 7 turns.
- Sturdy does not have its Focus Sash effect and only works as an immunity to OHKO moves like Sheer Cold.
- Magic Guard makes a Pokemon unable to be fully paralyzed.
- Tail Glow gives +2 Special Attack, not +3.
- Wish restores 50% of the recipient's HP, regardless of what the user's max HP is.
- All of Rotom's forms are Ghost/Electric-type.
How To Play:
You can play DPP STABmons on PS! with the following code: /chall [user], gen4ou @@@ stabmons move legality, -kingsrock, -razorfang, -*acupressure, -*bellydrum, -*chatter, -*extremespeed, -*lovelykiss, -*spore
Things that are banned from Gen 4 OverUsed in addition to:
Restricted Moves (These are still available to their native learners)
Bug is resisted by Ghost in Generation I.Bug is super effective against Poison and has normal effectiveness against Ghost, Poison is super effective against Bug, Ghost has no effect against Psychic, and Ice has normal effectiveness against Fire.
Thank you for the notes! Sorry for the late response, I wanted to gather my thoughts on this and ask around, but you're completely right. Sleep as a whole in RBY is a different beast than in other gens and that's something I overlooked when considering the original banlist; I think that it would be best for the metagame to restrict all sleep moves from non-native learners for the time being. I don't believe non-native sleep moves at the present moment are something deserving of a quick ban, and I'd like to see more discussion/play before making that decision.Hello everyone! I have been discussing with the RBY Community Discord and we are very happy to see RBY STABmons getting some recognition. We are happy that you went ahead to establish a few ground rules. Mainly, we are very glad to see Partial-Trapping gone, as that perpetuated some pretty degenerate strategies, mainly Jolteon being on every team and people being forced to run Electrode just to have some kind of answer to it. However, we had a few concerns regarding your approach to banning Sleep-inducing moves. I would strongly recommend either banning all Sleep Moves entirely or not at all. As it stands right now, you are unintentionally promoting some pretty unhealthy strategies. For example, Jolteon typically would run Lovely Kiss. Now that Lovely Kiss is banned, Jolteon can choose to run Sing. Sing does have a lower accuracy, but more often than not, it produces the same result as Lovely Kiss. Banning Lovely Kiss but not Sing does not address the fundamental problem, which is Sleep moves on absurdly fast Pokemon. For the same reason, I would strongly advise banning Hypnosis as well, which is mainly abused by Alakazam. Rather than banning Lovely Kiss and Spore, the Discord and I would suggest:
1) Ban Spore, Lovely Kiss, Sleep Powder, Hypnosis, and Sing from non-native learners.
2) Ban Spore, Lovely Kiss, Sleep Powder, Hypnosis, and Sing in general.
3) Do not ban any Sleep-inducing move.
The in between approach taken thus far just doesn't really address the problem, assuming there is one at all. For example, limiting Exeggutor to Sleep Powder over Spore isn't exactly a good way to balance it.
Anyway, please do not take this as an attack or anything. I and the rest of the Discord are, again, very happy to see RBY STABmons being treated as a real tier and finally receiving the fixes it needs. Thank you for reading and please consider these suggestions. Cheers!
I have no idea how this even happened LOL I swear I didn't put that myself but after scouring through all of the sources I used I have yet to find anything that says this... fixed now at leastAlso please fix this:
Bug is resisted by Ghost in Generation I.