1v1 Stall Snorlax [QC 2/2] [GP 1/1]

[clerica]

[SET]
name: Ron (Stall)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double-Edge
item: Chople Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This Snorlax set serves as a semi-stall Pokemon that beats many of the offensive threats in the 1v1 metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan, Primarina, and non-Fling Choice item Haxorus. Counter deals with prominent physical attackers like offensive Rillaboom, non-Swords Dance Rhyperior, and Life Orb + three attacks Zeraora as well as Choice Band users such as Crustle and Azumarill. Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense, which allows it to wall common Choice Specs users such as Magnezone, Sylveon, and Kyurem as well as miscellaneous specially oriented threats such as Salazzle and Volcarona. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options that are interchangeable based on what its teammates are. Rock Tomb prevents Snorlax from being bait for Encore and Taunt users such as Primarina and Mandibuzz while also providing utility against Fire-types such as Choice item Rotom-H, Chandelure, and Volcarona. Defense Curl allows Snorlax to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon, which helps secure the matchups against stall Kyurem and opposing non-Defense Curl Snorlax. Tackle allows it to maximize its PP while still being able to defeat other stall Pokemon such as Type: Null and Amnesia Slowbro. Double-Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users such as Choice item Rotom-A and Choice Scarf Gardevoir while also inflicting recoil damage, which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP preservation. 252 HP and 252 Defense EVs along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance at taking a Choice Band-boosted Fishious Rend from Adamant Dracovish, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. A Chople Berry allows Snorlax to take Fighting-type hits that would normally beat it such as a Superpower from Galarian Darmanitan or a Choice Band-boosted Close Combat from Conkeldurr.

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. For Rock Tomb variants in matchups against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the foe to prevent the opponent from locking Snorlax into Amnesia with Encore or disabling its setup moves with Taunt. Snorlax often struggles with setup Pokemon like Swords Dance Haxorus, Iron Defense Kommo-o, and Belly Drum Alolan Marowak as well as non-Choice item Fighting-types or ones that have a way to survive Counter like Reversal Hawlucha and Sturdy Sawk. Because of this, it often pairs well with Fairy-types such as Aqua Jet Primarina and bulky Quick Attack Sylveon. They are also able to take care of a lot of the counters like Urshifu-R and Sawk that normally beat Snorlax. Other good partners for Snorlax would include stallbreakers like Hex Dragapult and Choice item Rotom-A, both of which are able to deal with Pokemon that can outstall Snorlax such as Corviknight and Spite Galarian Corsola.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[smely socks, 503725]]
- Quality checked by: [[pqs, 425798], [dogknees, 317056]]
- Grammar checked by: [[deetah, 297659]]

 

[pqs]

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please qc snorlax

[SET]
Name: Ron (Stall Lax)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double Edge
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Careful Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Stall Snorlax serves as an effective stall Pokemon maybe just make it "This Snorlax set serves as an effective stall Pokemon" to make it less wordy that beats many of the offensive threats in the metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan and Choice Item Haxorus. Counter is its best option to deal with most Choiced physical attackers like Choice Band Rillaboom give more examples by taking a hit and KOing back with Counter. Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense stat and makes it into a great special wall against threats like Specs Magnezone give more examples. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options such as Rock Tomb to beat slow down and stall out certain fast Taunt or Encore users like Primarina give an example of a taunt user, as well some Trick users like Rotom-H, Defense Curl allows it to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon while boosting its Defense stat give examples of what this beats, Tackle allows it to maximize PP while still being able to beat taunt users by stalling them out give examples of what this beats, and Double Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users and deal recoil damage which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP give examples of what this beats. Maximum HP and Defense EV’s are optimal in this case because it perfectly tanks a Choice Banded Close Combat from Jolly Haxorus while still being able to function as a special wall. 252 HP and 252 Defense along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance to take an Adamant Choice Band Dracovish's Fishious Rend, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. explain what chople does

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of this where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. Against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the opponent to prevent them opponent from locking you into Amnesia with Encore or disabling your set up moves with Taunt until the PP of their move would run out. If you don't have Rock Tomb, you should try and go for setting up Amnesia turn one and hope for your opponent to not have the move that locks you in. Although most Normal-types lose generally to Fighting-types, this set is an exception thanks to Chople Berry. Chople berry allows Snorlax to take a hit from fighting types like Choice Band Conkeldurr and Choice item Urshifu-S. this would be more of a first paragraph thing imo An excellent partner for Snorlax is Primarina because it can deal with a lot of the Fighting-Types that beat Snorlax regardless of Chople Berry like Sawk. Primarina is also a great partner for Snorlax because it helps take care of a lot of the anti stall threats like Curse Dragapult which is able to beat Snorlax by using Curse and Disable to whittle Snorlax down and disable Rest so it cannot recover health. Another excellent teammate for Snorlax would be Substitute Disable Dragapult. Dragapult pairs well with Snorlax because it can can beat the Fighting-Types Snorlax loses to, while also beating opposing stall that can out stall Snorlax by using Curse to deal damage and Disable to disable their recovery moves. you should give more than just two options for teammates, like if water-types in general could help snorlax out, you should list those an what they do, instead of giving one specific mon.

tell me when this is implemented and i'll look at it again

 

[pqs]

qc

[SET]
Name: Ron (Stall Lax)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double Edge
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This Snorlax set serves as an effective semi-stall Pokemon that beats many of the offensive threats in the metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan and Choice Item Haxorus Give some examples of special attacking threats that snorlax can beat with amnesia. Counter is its best option to deal with most Choiced physical attackers like Choice Band Rillaboom and Rhyperior by taking a hit and KOing back with Counter. Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense stat and makes it into a great special wall against threats like Choice Specs Magnezone, Kyurem, and Choice Specs Sylveon. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options such as Rock Tomb to slow down and stall out certain Taunt or Encore users such as Mandibuzz and Primarina, as well some Trick users like Rotom-H, Defense Curl allows it to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon while boosting its Defense stat beating certain set up users such as Belly Drum Alolan Marowak or what (+6 252+ Atk Thick Club Marowak-Alola Flare Blitz vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ Def Snorlax: 778-916 (148.4 - 174.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO) e: forgot thick fat but u should still win Galarian Corsola give another example or remove this because both tackle and double edge already cover the gcors mu because you out pp, Tackle allows it to maximize PP while still being able to beat taunt users by stalling them out such as Type Null u just lose if they dont have an attack move, and Double Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users and deal recoil damage which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP such as Choice item Rotoms and Scarf Gardevoir. 252 HP and 252 Defense along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance to take an Adamant Choice Band Dracovish's Fishious Rend, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. Chople Berry allows Snorlax to take hits from Fighting moves that would normally beat it such as a Galarian Darmanitan Superpower or Conkeldurr, and KO back with Counter.

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. Against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the opponent to prevent them from locking you into Amnesia with Encore or disabling your set up moves with Taunt until the PP of their move would run out. If you don't have Rock Tomb, you should try and go for setting up Amnesia turn one and hope for your opponent to not have the move that locks you in. Because Snorlax often struggles with set up Pokemon and Fighting-types, it often pairs well with Fairy-types such as Aqua Jet Primarina or bulky Quick Attack Sylveon. These are able to take care of a lot of the counters like Urshifu-R and Sawk who normally beat Snorlax. Other good partners for Snorlax would include anti stall Pokemon like Curse Dragapult or Choice Rotom, who both are able to deal with stall Pokemon who can out stall Snorlax like?

tell when implement

 

[Ginger Princess]

smely socks was this ever implemented?

 

[pqs]

ok smely

[SET]
Name: Ron (Stall Lax)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double Edge
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This Snorlax set serves as a semi-stall Pokemon that beats many of the offensive threats in the metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan, Choice Item Haxorus, Primarina, and Volcarona. Counter is its best option to deal with most Choiced physical attackers like Choice Band Rillaboom and Rhyperior by taking a hit and KOing back with Counter. Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense stat and makes it into a great special wall against threats like Choice Specs Magnezone, Kyurem, and Choice Specs Sylveon. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options such as Rock Tomb to slow down and stall out certain Taunt or Encore users such as Mandibuzz and Primarina, as well some Trick users like Rotom-H, Defense Curl allows it to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon which helps secure the Stall Kyurem Matchup as well as the non-Defense Curl Snorlax mirror. Tackle allows it to maximize PP while still being able to beat Taunt make this clearer type: null isn't a taunt user users by stalling them out such as Type: Null name what this loses to over rock tomb since they seem similar, and Double Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users and deal recoil damage which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP such as Choice item Rotoms Rotom-A and Choice Scarf Gardevoir. 252 HP and 252 Defense along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance to take an Adamant Choice Band Dracovish's Fishious Rend, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. Chople Berry allows Snorlax to take hits from Fighting moves that would normally beat it such as a Galarian Darmanitan Superpower or Conkeldurr's Choice Banded Close Combat, and KO back with Counter.

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. Against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the opponent to prevent them from locking you into Amnesia with Encore or Disabling your set up moves with Taunt until the PP of their move would run out. If you don't have Rock Tomb, you should try and go for setting up Amnesia turn one and hope for your opponent to not have the move that locks you in. Because Snorlax often struggles with set up Pokemon and non-Choiced Fighting-types or ones that have a way to survive Counter, it often pairs well with Fairy-types such as Aqua Jet Primarina or bulky Quick Attack Sylveon. These are able to take care of a lot of the counters like Urshifu-R and Sawk who normally beat Snorlax. Other good partners for Snorlax would include anti stall Pokemon like Hex Dragapult or Choiced Rotom-A, who both are able to deal with stall Pokemon who can out stall Snorlax such as Corviknight or Spite Corsola Galar.

 

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[SET]
Name: Ron (Stall Lax)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double Edge
Item: Chople Berry
Ability: Thick Fat
Nature: Impish
Evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This Snorlax set serves as a semi-stall Pokemon that beats many of the offensive threats in the metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan, Primarina, and non-Fling Choice Item Haxorus. Primarina, and Volcarona. (Removed mention of Volcarona since Rock Tomb is necessary to beat it but can be swapped for other moves. Better to have examples of mons you consistently beat that don't rely on other move options. Your way is still fine and not techincally incorrect, but I prefer this.) Counter is its best option to deal deals with most Choiced majority prominent physical attackers like Choice Band offensive Rillaboom, and non-Swords Dance Rhyperior, Life Orb three attacks Zeraora, and Choice Band users such as Crustle and Azumarill. by taking a hit and KOing back with Counter. (By not limiting counter targets to choice band mons, you can see how much more detailed we can get in providing relevant threats.) Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense which allows it to wall common Choice Specs users such as Magnezone, Sylveon, and Kyurem, as well as miscellaneous specially oriented threats such as Salazzle and Goodra. stat and makes it into a great special wall against threats like Choice Specs Magnezone, Kyurem, and Choice Specs Sylveon. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options which are interchangeable based on what Snorlax's teammates are. such as Rock Tomb prevents Snorlax from being Taunt and Encore bait to typical abusers such as Primarina and Mandibuzz, whilst also providing utility against Fire-types such as Choice Item Rotom-H, Chandelure, and Volcarona, alongside its Quiver Dance variants. to slow down and stall out certain Taunt or Encore users such as Mandibuzz and Primarina, as well some Trick users like Rotom-H, Defense Curl allows it to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon which helps secure the Stall Kyurem Matchup as well as the non-Defense Curl Snorlax mirror. Tackle allows it to maximize PP while still being able to defeat other stall Pokemon such as Type: Null and Amnesia Slowbro. which can otherwise beats Rock Tomb while still having an attacking move unlike Defense Curl to help chip down opponents, and Double Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users such as Choice item Rotom-A and Choice Scarf Gardevoir, while also inflicting and deal recoil damage which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP preservation. such as Choice item Rotom-A and Choice Scarf Gardevoir. 252 HP and 252 Defense along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance to take an Adamant Choice Band Dracovish's Fishious Rend, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. Chople Berry allows Snorlax to take hits from Fighting moves that would normally beat it such as a Galarian Darmanitan's Superpower or Conkeldurr's Choice Banded Close Combat. and KO back with Counter.

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. For Rock Tomb variants in matchups against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the opponent to prevent them from locking you into Amnesia with Encore or Disabling your set up moves with Taunt until the PP of their move would run out. If you don't have Rock Tomb, you should try and go for setting up Amnesia turn one and hope for your opponent to not have the move that locks you in. (While you're right about playing off a choke, we assume that the oppontent isn't going to choke.) Because Snorlax often struggles with set up Pokemon and non-Choiced Fighting-types or ones that have a way to survive Counter, it often pairs well with Fairy-types such as Aqua Jet Primarina or bulky Quick Attack Sylveon. These are able to take care of a lot of the counters like Urshifu-R and Sawk who normally beat Snorlax. Other good partners for Snorlax would include anti stall Pokemon like Hex Dragapult or Choiced Rotom-A, who both are able to deal with stall Pokemon who can out stall Snorlax such as Corviknight or Spite Corsola Galar.

this'll do for an initial second check. let me know when implemented
edit: 2/2

 

[deetah]

Add Remove Comments (AH) = Add Hyphen (AP) = Add Period (AC) = Add Comma (RC) = Remove Comma
smely socks This is ready to be implemented! Please use https://spo.ink/gpvideo when implementing.

GP 1/1

Snorlax

[SET]
name: Ron (Stall Lax) (Just stall)
move 1: Counter
move 2: Amnesia
move 3: Rest
move 4: Rock Tomb / Defense Curl / Tackle / Double-(AH)Edge
item: Chople Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
This Snorlax set serves as a semi-stall Pokemon that beats many of the offensive threats in the 1v1 metagame, such as Galarian Darmanitan, Primarina, and non-Fling Choice item (Lowercase) Haxorus. Counter deals with prominent physical attackers like offensive Rillaboom, non-Swords Dance Rhyperior, and Life Orb + three attacks Zeraora, (RC) and as well as Choice Band users such as Crustle and Azumarill. Amnesia utilizes Snorlax's fantastic Special Defense, (AC) which allows it to wall common Choice Specs users such as Magnezone, Sylveon, and Kyurem, (RC) as well as miscellaneous specially oriented threats such as Salazzle and Goodra. Snorlax also has access to many different coverage options which that are interchangeable based on what Snorlax's its teammates are. Rock Tomb prevents Snorlax from being Taunt and Encore bait to typical abusers for Encore and Taunt users such as Primarina and Mandibuzz, (RC) whilst while also providing utility against Fire-types such as Choice item Rotom-H, Chandelure, and Volcarona, alongside its Quiver Dance variants. Defense Curl allows it Snorlax to maximize its PP and fully commit to being a hard stall Pokemon, (AC) which helps secure the Stall Kyurem matchup as well as the matchups against stall Kyurem and opposing non-Defense Curl Snorlax mirror. Tackle allows it to maximize its PP while still being able to defeat other stall Pokemon such as Type: Null and Amnesia Slowbro. Double-(AH)Edge allows Snorlax to both beat certain Trick users such as Choice item Rotom-A and Choice Scarf Gardevoir, (RC) while also inflicting recoil damage, (AC) which allows it to use Rest to maximize PP preservation. 252 HP and 252 Defense EVs along with an Impish nature allow Snorlax to have the best chance to take an Adamant Choice Band Dracovish Fishious Rend at taking a Choice Band-boosted Fishious Rend from Adamant Dracovish, and the extra 4 EVs are dumped into Special Defense. A Chople Berry allows Snorlax to take Fighting-type hits from Fighting moves that would normally beat it such as a Galarian Darmanitan's Superpower or Conkeldurr's Choice Banded Close Combat Superpower from Galarian Darmanitan or a Choice Band-boosted Close Combat from Conkeldurr.

Overall, Snorlax is a straightforward Pokemon to use. However, there are a couple interesting matchups where setting up or clicking Counter immediately isn't optimal. Primarina is a good example of where you shouldn't immediately use Amnesia turn one. For Rock Tomb variants in matchups against Primarina and other known Encore or Taunt users, it is best to click Rock Tomb until Snorlax outspeeds the opponent foe to prevent them the opponent from locking you Snorlax into Amnesia with Encore or disabling (Lowercase) your set up its setup moves with Taunt until the PP of their move would run out. Because Snorlax often struggles with set up setup Pokemon like Swords Dance Haxorus, Iron Defense Kommo-o, and Belly Drum Alolan Marowak as well as non-Choiced non-Choice item Fighting-types or ones that have a way to survive Counter like Reversal Hawlucha or Sawk with and Sturdy Sawk. (AP) Because of this, it often pairs well with Fairy-types such as Aqua Jet Primarina or and bulky Quick Attack Sylveon. These They are also able to take care of a lot of the counters like Urshifu-R and Sawk who that normally beat Snorlax. Other good partners for Snorlax would include anti-stall Pokemon stallbreakers (Anti-stall isn't an accepted term, use stallbreakers) like Hex Dragapult or Choiced and Choice item Rotom-A, who both of which are able to deal with Pokemon that can out stall outstall Snorlax such as Corviknight or and Spite Corsola Galar Galarian Corsola.

 

[Ginger Princess]

smely socks you need to add a credits section in analyses, if you could do that that'd be great

 

[Ginger Princess]

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