Staryu (Eviolite Special Attacker)

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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in
both defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to top offensive threats such as Carvanha, and defensive threats such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any Dragon-type becomes an issue for your team, as Staryu's coverage moves
cannot even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually the greater threat. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump after factoring in Stealth Rock and Spikes. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Switch will net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat, since it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure and put a large dent in Munchlax, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>
 
This definitely seems like the best offensive Staryu imo, it's really just too frail otherwise to function as the team's Fire-type switchin and LO's power boost just doesn't cut it for sweeping.

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Mention how Natural Cure prevents it from being crippled by status, which is also extremely helpful :p
 
Who switches Munchlax on Elekid? Both the Mixed Attacker and Physical Attacker run Brick Break/Cross Chop/Low Kick.

SubWoW Gastly or Misdreavus are good lures.
 

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Yeah, there is already a Staryu analysis, but I've completely finished it, which I assume is why Heysup created a separate set.
 
[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in (Special) Defense defence's, Staryu makes an excellent check to many of the top offensive threats such as Carvanha, and defensive threats such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover and Evolution Stone also give Staryu some excellent longevity in a battle. This means that Staryu can repeated switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits on of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for lots of damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types including Ferroseed.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any type of Dragon becomes and issue for your team, as Staryu's coverage moves do not even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually a greater threat. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting passed Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount from Hydro Pump with Spikes and Stealth Rock damage. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Change will net a free kill, and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult, since he isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure and put a large dent in Munchlax, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>
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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in (Special) Defense both defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to many of the top offensive threats, such as Carvanha, and defensive threats, such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover and Evolution Stone also alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in a battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits on of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for lots of super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any type of Dragon becomes and issue for your team, as Staryu's coverage moves do not cannot even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually a the greater threat. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting passed past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump with after factoring in Spikes and Stealth Rock damage. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Change Switch will net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat since he it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure and put a large dent in Munchlax, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>


Short and sweet, I guess?
 
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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in
both defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to many of the top offensive threats, such as Carvanha, and defensive threats, such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any type of Dragon Dragon-type becomes an issue for your team, as Staryu's coverage moves
cannot even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually the greater threat. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump after factoring in Stealth Rock and Spikes. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Switch will net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat, since Spikes and Stealth Rock. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure and put a large dent in Munchlax, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>


Good job.



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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in both
defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to many of the top offensive threats, such as Carvanha, and defensive threats, such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in during a battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's it is recommended over Surf because of the lack of power when Staryu is without a Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed in particular.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any type of Dragon becomes Dragon-types are an issue for your team, as none of Staryu's coverage moves
cannot even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually the greater threat, making Hidden Power Fire the better option. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump after factoring in Stealth Rock and Spikes. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Switchwill net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat, since Spikes and Stealth Rock. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure in and put a large dent in Munchlax with Cross Chop or Focus Punch, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>


Nicely done.
Some strange missing words in there that CP pointed out, but other than that, it was great.
 
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Might as well do something useful for Gen 5 =P

Did this over top of CalmPokemaster's GP check, since I'm not sure how much of elDino's check I agree with, no offense to eD.

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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power capabilities. With the Eviolite's boost in to both defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to top offensive threats such as Carvanha, and as well as defensive threats such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits attacks of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main offensive weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without a Life Orb boost. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option over Hidden Power Fire if any Dragon-type becomes an issue for your team, as Staryu's coverage moves cannot even hit Dragon-types neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually the greater threat. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but it still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump after factoring in Stealth Rock and Spikes. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Switch will usually net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat, since it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure and put a large dent in Munchlax, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>


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[SET]
name: Eviolite Sweeper
move 1: Hydro Pump
move 2: Thunderbolt
move 3: Hidden Power Fire
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Natural Cure
nature: Timid
evs: 36 HP / 200 SpA / 240 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>This is one of Staryu's most versatile sets due to its mixed offensive and defensive power. With the boost in both
defenses, Staryu makes an excellent check to many of the top offensive threats, such as Carvanha, and defensive threats, such as Slowpoke and Frillish. Recover alongside Eviolite gives Staryu some excellent longevity in during a battle. This means that Staryu can repeatedly switch in and tank hits while also dishing out some powerful hits of its own. Hydro Pump is Staryu's main weapon; it's recommended over Surf because of the lack of power without Life Orb. Thunderbolt nails opposing Water-types such as Frillish, Slowpoke, and Carvanha for super effective damage, while Hidden Power Fire hits Grass-types, including Ferroseed in particular.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Ice Beam is always an option if any type of Dragon becomes Dragon-types are an issue for your team, as none of Staryu's coverage moves
cannot even hit Dragon-types them neutrally. However, Ferroseed is usually the greater threat, making Hidden Power Fire the better option. Additionally, Staryu has trouble getting past Pokemon such as Chinchou and Munchlax. Chinchou resists all of Staryu's moves, but still takes a hefty amount of damage from Hydro Pump after factoring in Stealth Rock and Spikes. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt Switch will net a free kill and give Staryu a clear path to sweep. Munchlax is a little more difficult to defeat, since Spikes and Stealth Rock. Using Diglett to switch into the inevitable Volt it isn't weak to any specific trapping Pokemon. A good way to deal with Munchlax is by using Elekid. Elekid can safely lure in and put a large dent in Munchlax with Cross Chop or Focus Punch, allowing Staryu to finish it off and sweep.</p>


Nicely done.
Some strange missing words in there that CP pointed out, but other than that, it was great.

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I would mention knock off and rain somewhere. Both make staryu significantly more dangerous as a sweeper
 

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Staryu doesn't have the movepool really, and Rain teams don't need another water-type setting up Rain. The whole point is to have some utility and resistances for your set up mon.
 

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With the popularity of Dewbble exponentially increasing in the past month or two, I want to say mention Rapid Spin somewhere, but all its moves seem essential so I wouldn't know what to replace it with.
 

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