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Should Magic Room be banned?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 52.2%
  • No

    Votes: 54 47.8%

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#77
Oh I remember this, it was fun and it really goes against what normal play is like (kinda like the Inverse metagame). I think if it was implemented where a "lose" is a win but a "forfeit" is still a lose, then this could be more playable.
 
#78
What about something like this:

Smeargle @ Mental Herb

Own Tempo

- Perish Song
- Roar
- Baton Pass
- Scratch

Use perish song, then roar to phase opponent, then baton pass to something on your team to kill it. Scratch is the most worthless attacking move I could think of besides rapid spin, which you don't want for obvious reasons.
I've used this, but with Ingrain over Baton Pass so you won't get phazed yourself, it's great I must say
 
#79
What about something like this:

Smeargle @ Mental Herb

Own Tempo

- Perish Song
- Roar
- Baton Pass
- Scratch

Use perish song, then roar to phase opponent, then baton pass to something on your team to kill it. Scratch is the most worthless attacking move I could think of besides rapid spin, which you don't want for obvious reasons.
How about nuzzle? 20 BP, no STAB and induces paralysis (therefore preventing the opponent from abusing status orbs)
 

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#81
Assault Vest with only status moves seems promising. I'd use something with very low attack like shuckle or chansey.
That won't work, simply because you have to have at least one damaging move on each Pokemon. Even so, Trick is pretty prevalent, and if you trick an Assault Vest onto yourself, it's very hare for the opponent to remove it.

Actually, I can see Klutz AV Tricking to be pretty viable, since it forces the opponent into attacking you.
 
#82
That won't work, simply because you have to have at least one damaging move on each Pokemon. Even so, Trick is pretty prevalent, and if you trick an Assault Vest onto yourself, it's very hare for the opponent to remove it.

Actually, I can see Klutz AV Tricking to be pretty viable, since it forces the opponent into attacking you.
Oh, derp. Forgot about that. AV trick does seem potent though.
 
#83
I've used AV Switcheroo (only the Buneary line can pull it off) and it's pretty effective, so long as the opposing foe's orb or whatever hasn't already activated. This is the set I use:

Buneary @ Assault Vest
Ability: Klutz
EVs: 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 HP / 0 Atk / 0 Def / 0 SAtk / 0 SDef
- Switcheroo
- Thunder Wave
- Mud-Slap
- Copycat / Magic Coat / Encore

Thunder Wave is to stop Toxic/Flame Orb, Mud-Slap is the lowest damage move it gets, Copycat is situational, but useful, and then of course AV Switcheroo locks them into an attack moving. You could also use either Encore or Magic Coat, both are useful, although they have less utility once you trick an AV.

But yeah, permanent Taunt should not be underestimated.
 
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#86
So. How about that Heal Pulse Audino with Toxic Orb?
Heal Pulse is banned.

What about a choice-item? You could just then choice-lock yourself into say, Taunt and repeat with six mons to win the match quickly
That's viable. But you run into problems if you get outsped, magic bounced, strategically OHKO'd, or the opponent constantly switches while still taking damage from Toxic/Burn.
 
#87
Heal Pulse is banned.



That's viable. But you run into problems if you get outsped, magic bounced, strategically OHKO'd, or the opponent constantly switches while still taking damage from Toxic/Burn.
If you get Magic Bounced, it's positive, as you're forced into struggle
 
#98
Necrobump, but I just thought of something (and like the meta too much to let it go): How good will False Swipe/Hold Back be? They count as your damaging move but can never kill the opponent and are quite weak, but they also have 40 PP.
 
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