Battle Spot Suicune [Doubles]

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[OVERVIEW]

* Suicune is one of the bulkiest Water-type Pokemon in the metagame, along with Tapu Fini and Milotic, as it is easily able to tank hits like Mega Salamence's Double-Edge and Tapu Lele's Psychic.
* Base defensive stats of 100 / 115 / 115 give Suicune considerable bulk, being nearly on par with that of Cresselia.
* Suicune's selective support movepool consists of Snarl for disruption, as well as Icy Wind and Tailwind. Due to its exceptional natural bulk, Suicune is an ideal setter of Tailwind to provide your team some speed control.
* Even though Suicune primarily plays a supportive role in most teams, it is capable of taking out popular threats like Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, and Heatran with ease.
* However, Z-Moves pose a major problem for Suicune, as they are capable of OHKOing it unless you invest a lot of EVs into its defensive stats.
* Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu can easily KO Suicune with their respective STAB moves, and Ferrothorn simply walls it with its typing. Suicune also struggles against bulky Steel-types like Celesteela and Aegislash.
* While Suicune may seem to be outclassed by Tapu Fini, it finds a niche in some teams as a potential support Pokemon that can provide a form of speed control.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Offense
move 1: Scald
move 2: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 3: Snarl / Protect
move 4: Tailwind
item: Sitrus Berry / Rocky Helmet
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 116 SpA / 28 SpD / 28 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

* Tailwind is Suicune's primary asset that differs it from other popular Water-type Pokemon. It is Suicune's main form of speed control, allowing its teammates to outspeed and KO opposing threats efficiently.
* Snarl is used for disruption, weakening the opponent's special attackers, like Tapu Koko and Tapu Lele. This comes in handy when Tailwind ends, as Suicune can set it up again with minimal consequence. Protect can be used in this slot as well to scout for incoming Z-Moves.
* Ice Beam serves as a way to OHKO Mega Salamence and Landorus-T and also deals a decent amount of damage to Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu. Icy Wind can be used in this slot for additional speed control, although it's not necessary.
* Scald serves as Suicune's only STAB move in this set and can be used to either fish for the 30% burn chance or to greatly damage Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran.

Set Details
========

* 244 EVs are invested in HP to maximize bulk, which allows Suicune to survive Timid Tapu Koko's Thunderbolt in Electric Terrain. Using 244 EVs instead of 252 also ensures that Sitrus Berry activates once Suicune's HP reduces to half of its maximum HP.
* 116 Special Attack EVs with a Modest nature ensure that Suicune OHKOes 4 HP Mega Salamence 100% of the time with Ice Beam.
* 28 EVs are invested in Speed to outspeed Adamant maximum Speed Landorus-T once Tailwind is set up (20 EVs do the same job). The set also Speed creeps Pokemon that are EV trained to outspeed Choice Scarf Landorus-T.
* Sitrus Berry is used as the held item to further increase Suicune's longevity, which often comes in handy, as it allows the player to set up a second Tailwind if needed.
* 244 HP EVs and 92 Defense EVs guarantee that Suicune has a 99.6% chance to survive two of Jolly Mega Salamence's Double-Edges after Sitrus Berry recovery.
* Similarly, 244 HP EVs and 28 Special Defense EVs ensure that Modest Tapu Lele's Psychic in Psychic Terrain is a 2HKO 97.7% of the time after Sitrus Berry recovery.
* Rocky Helmet can be used to deal some residual damage to physical attackers like Mega Kangaskhan and Mega Salamence.
* This set is ran with a Modest nature to secure some OHKOes, as listed above. The offensive EVs combined with a Modest nature deal decent damage to Mega Kangaskhan as well.
* Alternatively, a Bold nature can be run with an EV spread of 244 HP / 4 Def / 212 SpA / 28 SpD / 20 Spe, which makes Jolly Mega Salamence's Double-Edge a guaranteed 3HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery.

Usage Tips
========

* Suicune is used as a support Pokemon primarily and can switch to a more offensive playstyle once Tailwind is set up.
* It is often advisable to switch Suicune into an incoming Fake Out from Mega Kangaskhan to take maximum advantage of Rocky Helmet. Similarly, Suicune can be safely switched into Ice- and Water-type moves to regain some momentum.
* Thanks to being a bulky Water-type Pokemon, Suicune does well against rain teams and can either set up Tailwind or use Snarl to weaken their offense.
* The primary strategy when using Suicune is to try and set up Tailwind. Once succeeded, it can give your Pokemon enormous momentum.
* Snarl is recommended if Suicune can't hit anything for decent damage, as it helps weaken the foes.

Team Options
========

* Suicune is often paired with Mega Kangaskhan, as the latter gives Suicune Fake Out support, and does well once Tailwind is set up, easily OHKOing threats like Terrakion and Landorus-T.
* Tapu Lele makes a great partner to Suicune, as Psychic Terrain helps block opposing Fake Out and Prankster Taunt. Non-Choice Scarf Tapu Lele appreciates speed control to outspeed faster Pokemon like Choice Scarf Landorus-T. This also enables Suicune to use Psychic Seed, which boosts Suicune's Special Defense, allowing it to tank hits like special Gigavolt Havoc. This strategy almost always allows Suicune to set up a Tailwind, after which the duo can demolish opposing teams.
* Like previous formats, Breloom can be used with Suicune to use fast Spores, which is usually a reliable way to shut down Trick Room strategies. However, one has to be careful when facing Tapu Koko or Tapu Fini, as Misty Terrain and Electric Terrain prevent grounded Pokemon from being put to sleep.
* Tapu Bulu also works here, as it easily OHKOes popular Water-type Pokemon like Tapu Fini, which otherwise completely wall Suicune.
* Middling Speed Pokemon like Sylveon benefit from Tailwind's Speed boost, allowing them to spam strong moves, which deals massive damage to opposing Pokemon.
* Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran and Charizard can work well with Suicune, as they take out Grass-types, which usually threaten it.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

* Aguav Berry may be used instead of Sitrus berry to regain larger amounts of HP. However, there is the risk of being KOed easily if Suicune's HP fails to go below 25% to trigger the Berry's activation.
* Calm Mind can be used to further boost Suicune's Special Defense but is outclassed by Tapu Fini due to the latter's coverage options and typing. Icy Wind can give this set a niche over Tapu Fini by providing an additional means of speed control.
* Another utility move that can be used is Mirror Coat, which can potentially OHKO Tapu Koko, considering Suicune survives their attack first. However, this isn't recommended in every team due to the popularity of Z-Moves, many of which OHKOing Suicune.
* Chesto Berry + Rest has always been a popular strategy due to Suicune's lack of recovery options and could be viable once Tailwind is set up for fast recovery. The only risk in using this set is that this is a one-time strategy, and it puts Suicune at a major disadvantage if used for a second time.
* Last but not least, Roar can be used to counter Trick Room teams and to phaze setup strategies like Extreme Evoboost and Curse Snorlax.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Electric-types**: Popular Electric-type Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Zapdos can easily KO Suicune with their STAB moves, and Suicune isn't able to do much damage to them, and it must rely on Tailwind for a Speed advantage.

**Grass-types**: Powerful Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu, Kartana, Ferrothorn, and Venusaur can KO Suicune with Grass-type moves and should be handled with caution.

**Bulky Steel-types**: Bulky Steel-type Pokemon like Celesteela and Aegislash wall Suicune with their bulk, and they can stall it out with Leech Seed and Toxic, respectively.

**Z-Moves**: Like most of the Pokemon, Suicune is vulnerable to powerful Z-Moves, like Tapu Lele's Shattered Psyche and Tapu Koko's Gigavolt Havoc, and is usually OHKOed by them.
 
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Suicune definitely took quite the hit this gen in BSD. Finally got around to doing this, not a ton to say here but given Suicune is still fairly straightforward that only makes sense. Comments are in bold.

[OVERVIEW]

* Suicune is one of the bulkiest Water-type Pokemon in the metagame along with Tapu Fini and Milotic, easily able to tank hits like Mega Salamence's Double Edge and Tapu Lele's Psychic.
* Base defensive stats of 100 / 115 / 115 gives Suicune considerable amount of bulk, nearly on par with that of Cresselia, and its Water-typing makes Suicune weak to just two types. You don't really need to specify that Water-type gives it only two weaknesses, that's hopefully clear to any reader
* Suicune's selective support movepool consists of Snarl for disruption, Icy Wind and Tailwind. Due to its exceptional natural bulk, Suicune is an ideal setter of Tailwind to provide your team some Speed control.
* Even though Suicune primarily plays a supportive role in most teams, it is capable of taking out popular meta threats like Landorus-T, Mega Salamence and Heatran with ease.
* However, the introduction of Z-Moves questions Suicune's potential longevity in the metagame ("Questions" isn't really the right word here, this makes it sound like an retrospective article. I'd just note that the power Z-moves pose a problem for a typically passive support mon like Suicune that relies a lot on its bulk), as they are capable of OHKOing it unless you invest a lot of EVs in its defensive stats.
* Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu can easily KO Suicune with their respective STAB moves, while Ferrothorn simply walls it with its unique typing. Suicune also struggles against bulky Steel-types like Celesteela and Aegislash.
* While Suicune may seem to be outclassed by Tapu Fini, it finds a niche in some teams as a potential support Pokemon who can provide a form of Speed control.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Offense
move 1: Tailwind
move 2: Snarl
move 3: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 4: Scald
item: Sitrus Berry / Rocky Helmet
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 116 Sp Atk / 28 Sp Def / 28 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

* Tailwind is Suicune's primary asset that differs it from other popular Water-type Pokemon. It is Suicune's main form of Speed control, allowing its teammates to outspeed and KO the opposing threats efficiently.
* Snarl is used for disruption, weakening your opponent's special attackers like Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele etc. This comes in handy when Tailwind ends as Suicune can set it up again with minimal consequence.
* Ice Beam serves as a way to OHKO Mega Salamence and Landorus-T, and also deals a decent amount of damage to Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu. Icy Wind can be used in this slot for additional Speed control, although it's not necessary.
* Scald serves as Suicune's only STAB move in this set, and can be used to either fish for the 30% burn chance, or to greatly damage Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran.

Set Details
========

* 244 EVs are invested in HP to maximize bulk, which allows Suicune to survive Timid Tapu Koko Thunderbolt in Electric Terrain. Using 244 EVs instead of 252 also ensures Sitrus Berry activates once Suicune's HP reduces to half of its maximum HP.
* 116+ Special Attack Suicune OHKOes 4 HP Mega Salamence 100% of the time with Ice Beam.
* 28 EVs are invested in speed to outspeed Adamant max speed Landorus-T once Tailwind is set up (20 EVs does the same job).
* Sitrus Berry is used as the held item to further increase Suicune's longevity, which often comes in handy as it allows the player to set up a second Tailwind if needed.
* 244 HP / 92 Def Suicune has a 99.6% chance to survive two of Jolly Mega Salamence's Double-Edge after Sitrus Berry Recovery.
* Similarly, 244 HP / 28 Sp Def ensures Modest Tapu Lele Psychic in Psychic Terrain is a 2HKO 97.7% of the time, after Sitrus Berry Recovery.
* Rocky Helmet can be used in this slot to deal some amount of damage to physical attackers like Mega Kangaskhan/Salamence.
* This set is ran with Modest nature to secure some OHKOes as listed above. The Offensive EVs combined with Modest nature deals decent damage to Mega Kangaskhan as well.

Usage Tips
========

* Suicune is used as a support Pokemon primarily, and can switch to a more offensive play style once Tailwind is set up.
* It is often advisable to switch Suicune into an incoming Fake Out from Mega Kangaskhan, to take maximum advantage of Rocky Helmet. Similarly, Suicune can be safely switched into Ice- and Water-type moves, to regain some momentum.
* Thanks to being a bulky Water-type Pokemon, Suicune does well against Rain teams, and can either set up Tailwind, or use Snarl to weaken their offense.
* The primary strategy when using Suicune is to try and set up Tailwind. Once succeeded, it can give you enormous momentum.
* Snarl is recommended if Suicune can't hit anyone for decent amount of damage, as it helps weaken your opponents.

Team Options
========

* Suicune is often paired with Mega Kangaskhan as the latter gives Suicune Fake Out support, and does well once Tailwind is set up, easily OHKOing threats like Terrakion, Landorus-T etc.
* Tapu Lele makes a great partner to Suicune, as Psychic Terrain helps block opposing Fake Out and Prankster Taunt. It also enables Suicune to use Psychic Seed, which boosts Suicune's Special Defense, allowing it to tank hits like Gigavolt Havoc. This strategy almost always allows Suicune to set up a Tailwind, after which the duo can demolish opposing teams. I would consider mentioning Psychic Seed under Set Details, this isn't something you really use without Lele so I'm unsure it need to be slashed on the set itself but I'd definitely make a quick mention of it.
* Like previous formats, Breloon can be used with Suicune to use fast Spores, which is usually a reliable way to shut down Trick Room strategies. However, one has to be careful when facing Tapu Koko or Tapu Fini, as Misty and Electric Terrains prevents grounded Pokemon from being put to sleep.
* Tapu Bulu also works here, as it easily OHKOes popular Water-type Pokemon like Tapu Fini, whom otherwise completely walls Suicune.
* Mid speed Pokemon like Sylveon benefits from Tailwind's speed boost, allowing it to spam Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice, which deals massive damage to opposing Pokemon.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

* Aguav/Figy Berry may be used instead of Sitrus berry to regain larger amounts of HP. There is however the risk of being KOed easily if Suicune's HP fails to go below 25% to trigger the Berry's activation.
* Calm Mind can be used to further boost Suicune's Special Defense, but is outclassed by Tapu Fini due to the latter's coverage options and typing.
* Another tech that can be used is Mirror Coat, which can potentially OHKO Tapu Koko, considering Suicune survives their attack first. However, this isn't recommended in every team, due to the popularity of Z-Moves, many of which Suicune is unable to survive.
* Chesto Berry and Rest has always been a popular strategy due to Suicune's lack of recover options, and could be viable once Tailwind is set up for fast full recovery. The only risk in using this set is; this is a one time strategy, and puts you at a major disadvantage if used for a second time.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Electric-type**: Popular Electric-type Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Thundurus can easily KO Suicune with their STAB moves, while Suicune isn't able to do much damage to them, and must rely on Tailwind for speed advantage. Thundurus usage is actually fairly iffy at the moment (about 2.5% on cart with Thundurus-T having ~2.9%) so I'd make sure to also mention a few other Electric-types like Alolan Raichu and Zapdos.

**Grass-type**: Powerful Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu can OHKO Suicune with Wood Hammer, and should be handled with caution. Definitely mention a few more like Kartana, Whimsicott, Venusaur and Amoonguss, which all get similar usage as Bulu or more. They obviously don't all OHKO Suicune but usually prove problematic for it.

**Bulky Steel-type**: Bulky Steel-type Pokemon like Celesteela and Aegislash walls Suicune with their bulk, and can stall it out with Leech Seed and/or Toxic respectively.

**Z-Moves**: Like most of the Pokemon, Suicune is vulnerable to powerful Z-Moves, like Tapu Lele's Shattered Psyche and Tapu Koko's Gigavolt Havoc, and is usually OHKOed by them.
QC 1/2
 

Mr.GX

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Suicune definitely took quite the hit this gen in BSD. Finally got around to doing this, not a ton to say here but given Suicune is still fairly straightforward that only makes sense. Comments are in bold.



QC 1/2
Implemented. On the psychic seed thing, Jhon and cant say on Discoed told me to add them in team options, and not in set. I originally had Psychic Seed as the primary set, btw. Implemented all the rest.
 

Demantoid

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Comments in bold
[OVERVIEW]

* Suicune is one of the bulkiest Water-type Pokemon in the metagame along with Tapu Fini and Milotic, easily able to tank hits like Mega Salamence's Double Edge and Tapu Lele's Psychic.
* Base defensive stats of 100 / 115 / 115 gives Suicune considerable amount of bulk, nearly on par with that of Cresselia.
* Suicune's selective support movepool consists of Snarl for disruption, Icy Wind and Tailwind. Due to its exceptional natural bulk, Suicune is an ideal setter of Tailwind to provide your team some Speed control.
* Even though Suicune primarily plays a supportive role in most teams, it is capable of taking out popular meta threats like Landorus-T, Mega Salamence and Heatran with ease.
* However, the introduction of Z-Moves pose major problem for a typically passive Pokemon like Suicune that relies a lot on its bulk, as they are capable of OHKOing it unless you invest a lot of EVs in its defensive stats.
* Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu can easily KO Suicune with their respective STAB moves, while Ferrothorn simply walls it with its unique typing. Suicune also struggles against bulky Steel-types like Celesteela and Aegislash.
* While Suicune may seem to be outclassed by Tapu Fini, it finds a niche in some teams as a potential support Pokemon who can provide a form of Speed control.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Offense
move 1: Tailwind
move 2: Snarl
move 3: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 4: Scald
item: Sitrus Berry / Rocky Helmet
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 116 Sp Atk / 28 Sp Def / 28 Spe The evs should look like this EVs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 116 SpA / 28 SpD / 28 Spe

Reverse the order of the moves and slash Protect in the Snarl slot. I would probably remove Icy Wind from here since it has pretty low usage and shouldn't be used with Tailwind

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

* Tailwind is Suicune's primary asset that differs it from other popular Water-type Pokemon. It is Suicune's main form of Speed control, allowing its teammates to outspeed and KO the opposing threats efficiently.
* Snarl is used for disruption, weakening your opponent's special attackers like Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele etc. This comes in handy when Tailwind ends as Suicune can set it up again with minimal consequence.
* Ice Beam serves as a way to OHKO Mega Salamence and Landorus-T, and also deals a decent amount of damage to Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu. Icy Wind can be used in this slot for additional Speed control, although it's not necessary.
* Scald serves as Suicune's only STAB move in this set, and can be used to either fish for the 30% burn chance, or to greatly damage Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran.

Set Details
========

* 244 EVs are invested in HP to maximize bulk, which allows Suicune to survive Timid Tapu Koko Thunderbolt in Electric Terrain. Using 244 EVs instead of 252 also ensures Sitrus Berry activates once Suicune's HP reduces to half of its maximum HP.
* 116+ Special Attack Suicune OHKOes 4 HP Mega Salamence 100% of the time with Ice Beam.
* 28 EVs are invested in speed to outspeed Adamant max speed Landorus-T once Tailwind is set up (20 EVs does the same job). Just say that it speed creeps things that outspeed scarf lando
* Sitrus Berry is used as the held item to further increase Suicune's longevity, which often comes in handy as it allows the player to set up a second Tailwind if needed.
* 244 HP / 92 Def Suicune has a 99.6% chance to survive two of Jolly Mega Salamence's Double-Edge after Sitrus Berry Recovery.
* Similarly, 244 HP / 28 Sp Def ensures Modest Tapu Lele Psychic in Psychic Terrain is a 2HKO 97.7% of the time, after Sitrus Berry Recovery.
* Rocky Helmet can be used in this slot to deal some amount of damage to physical attackers like Mega Kangaskhan/Salamence.
* This set is ran with Modest nature to secure some OHKOes as listed above. The Offensive EVs combined with Modest nature deals decent damage to Mega Kangaskhan as well.

Make another spread with a bold nature and put it here since it's the most popular nature

Usage Tips
========

* Suicune is used as a support Pokemon primarily, and can switch to a more offensive play style once Tailwind is set up.
* It is often advisable to switch Suicune into an incoming Fake Out from Mega Kangaskhan, to take maximum advantage of Rocky Helmet. Similarly, Suicune can be safely switched into Ice- and Water-type moves, to regain some momentum.
* Thanks to being a bulky Water-type Pokemon, Suicune does well against Rain teams, and can either set up Tailwind, or use Snarl to weaken their offense.
* The primary strategy when using Suicune is to try and set up Tailwind. Once succeeded, it can give you enormous momentum.
* Snarl is recommended if Suicune can't hit anyone for decent amount of damage, as it helps weaken your opponents.

Team Options
========

* Suicune is often paired with Mega Kangaskhan as the latter gives Suicune Fake Out support, and does well once Tailwind is set up, easily OHKOing threats like Terrakion, Landorus-T etc.
* Tapu Lele makes a great partner to Suicune, as Psychic Terrain helps block opposing Fake Out and Prankster Taunt. It also enables Suicune to use Psychic Seed, which boosts Suicune's Special Defense, allowing it to tank hits like Gigavolt Havoc. This strategy almost always allows Suicune to set up a Tailwind, after which the duo can demolish opposing teams. Nonscarf lele also really appreciates speed control
* Like previous formats, Breloon can be used with Suicune to use fast Spores, which is usually a reliable way to shut down Trick Room strategies. However, one has to be careful when facing Tapu Koko or Tapu Fini, as Misty and Electric Terrains prevents grounded Pokemon from being put to sleep.
* Tapu Bulu also works here, as it easily OHKOes popular Water-type Pokemon like Tapu Fini, whom otherwise completely walls Suicune.
* Mid speed Pokemon like Sylveon benefits from Tailwind's speed boost, allowing it to spam Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice, which deals massive damage to opposing Pokemon.

Put Charizard and Heatran here. They kill grass types and appreciate suicunes speed control

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

* Aguav/Figy Berry may be used instead of Sitrus berry to regain larger amounts of HP. There is however the risk of being KOed easily if Suicune's HP fails to go below 25% to trigger the Berry's activation. Only mention aguav here (figy confuses suicune)
* Calm Mind can be used to further boost Suicune's Special Defense, but is outclassed by Tapu Fini due to the latter's coverage options and typing. Icy Wind can give this set a niche over fini.
* Another tech that can be used is Mirror Coat, which can potentially OHKO Tapu Koko, considering Suicune survives their attack first. However, this isn't recommended in every team, due to the popularity of Z-Moves, many of which Suicune is unable to survive.
* Chesto Berry and Rest has always been a popular strategy due to Suicune's lack of recover options, and could be viable once Tailwind is set up for fast full recovery. The only risk in using this set is; this is a one time strategy, and puts you at a major disadvantage if used for a second time.

Put Roar as a trick room check

Checks and Counters
===================

**Electric-type**: Popular Electric-type Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Zapdos can easily KO Suicune with their STAB moves, while Suicune isn't able to do much damage to them, and must rely on Tailwind for speed advantage.

**Grass-type**: Powerful Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu, Kartana and Venusaur can KO Suicune with Grass-type moves, and should be handled with caution. Put ferrothorn here too

**Bulky Steel-type**: Bulky Steel-type Pokemon like Celesteela and Aegislash walls Suicune with their bulk, and can stall it out with Leech Seed and/or Toxic respectively.

**Z-Moves**: Like most of the Pokemon, Suicune is vulnerable to powerful Z-Moves, like Tapu Lele's Shattered Psyche and Tapu Koko's Gigavolt Havoc, and is usually OHKOed by them.
 
[OVERVIEW]

* Suicune is one of the bulkiest Water-type Pokemon in the metagame, (AC) along with Tapu Fini and Milotic, as it is easily able to tank hits like Mega Salamence's Double-Edge and Tapu Lele's Psychic.
* Base defensive stats of 100 / 115 / 115 gives give Suicune considerable amount of bulk, being nearly on par with that of Cresselia.
* Suicune's selective support movepool consists of Snarl for disruption, as well as Icy Wind and Tailwind. Due to its exceptional natural bulk, Suicune is an ideal setter of Tailwind to provide your team some speed control.
* Even though Suicune primarily plays a supportive role in most teams, it is capable of taking out popular meta threats like Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, (AC) and Heatran with ease.
* However, the introduction of Z-Moves pose a major problem for a typically passive Pokemon like Suicune that relies a lot on its bulk, as they are capable of OHKOing it unless you invest a lot of EVs in into its defensive stats.
* Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Tapu Bulu can easily KO Suicune with their respective STAB moves, while and Ferrothorn simply walls it with its unique typing. Suicune also struggles against bulky Steel-types like Celesteela and Aegislash.
* While Suicune may seem to be outclassed by Tapu Fini, it finds a niche in some teams as a potential support Pokemon who that can provide a form of speed control.

[SET]
name: Tailwind Offense
move 1: Scald
move 2: Ice Beam / Icy Wind
move 3: Snarl / Protect
move 4: Tailwind
item: Sitrus Berry / Rocky Helmet
ability: Pressure
nature: Modest
evs: 244 HP / 92 Def / 116 SpA / 28 SpD / 28 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

* Tailwind is Suicune's primary asset that differs it from other popular Water-type Pokemon. It is Suicune's main form of speed control, allowing its teammates to outspeed and KO the opposing threats efficiently.
* Snarl is used for disruption, weakening your the opponent's special attackers, (AC) like Tapu Koko, (RC) and Tapu Lele etc. This comes in handy when Tailwind ends, (AC) as Suicune can set it up again with minimal consequence. Protect can be used in this slot as well to scout for incoming Z-Moves.
* Ice Beam serves as a way to OHKO Mega Salamence and Landorus-T, (RC) and also deals a decent amount of damage to Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu. Icy Wind can be used in this slot for additional speed control, although it's not necessary.
* Scald serves as Suicune's only STAB move in this set, (RC) and can be used to either fish for the 30% burn chance, (RC) or to greatly damage Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran.

Set Details
========

* 244 EVs are invested in HP to maximize bulk, which allows Suicune to survive Timid Tapu Koko Koko's Thunderbolt in Electric Terrain. Using 244 EVs instead of 252 also ensures that Sitrus Berry activates once Suicune's HP reduces to half of its maximum HP.
* 116+ (Remove plus) Special Attack EVs with a Modest nature ensure that Suicune OHKOes 4 HP Mega Salamence 100% of the time with Ice Beam.
* 28 EVs are invested in Speed to outspeed Adamant max maximum Speed Landorus-T once Tailwind is set up (20 EVs does do the same job). The set also Speed creeps Pokemon that are EV'd EV trained to outspeed Choice Scarf Landorus. (if this means Landorus-T, add "-T" at the end of "Landorus" please)
* Sitrus Berry is used as the held item to further increase Suicune's longevity, which often comes in handy, (AC) as it allows the player to set up a second Tailwind if needed.
* 244 HP / 92 Def EVs and 92 Defense EVs guarantee that Suicune has a 99.6% chance to survive two of Jolly Mega Salamence's Double-Edge Double-Edges after Sitrus Berry recovery.
* Similarly, 244 HP / 28 Sp Def ensure EVs and 28 Special Defense EVs ensure that Modest Tapu Lele Lele's Psychic in Psychic Terrain is a 2HKO 97.7% of the time, (RC) after Sitrus Berry recovery.
* Rocky Helmet can be used in this slot to deal some amount of residual damage to physical attackers like Mega Kangaskhan/Salamence Kangaskhan and Mega Salamence.
* This set is ran with a Modest nature to secure some OHKOes, (AC) as listed above. The offensive EVs combined with a Modest nature deals deal decent damage to Mega Kangaskhan as well.
* Alternatively, a Bold nature set can be run with an EV spread of 244 HP / 4 Def / 212 SpA / 28 SpD / 20 Spe EVs, which makes Jolly Mega Salamence Salamence's Double-Edge a guaranteed 3HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery.

Usage Tips
========

* Suicune is used as a support Pokemon primarily, (RC) and can switch to a more offensive play style playstyle once Tailwind is set up.
* It is often advisable to switch Suicune into an incoming Fake Out from Mega Kangaskhan, (RC) to take maximum advantage of Rocky Helmet. Similarly, Suicune can be safely switched into Ice- and Water-type moves, (RC) to regain some momentum.
* Thanks to being a bulky Water-type Pokemon, Suicune does well against rain teams, (RC) and can either set up Tailwind, (RC) or use Snarl to weaken their offense.
* The primary strategy when using Suicune is to try and set up Tailwind. Once succeeded, it can give you your Pokemon enormous momentum.
* Snarl is recommended if Suicune can't hit anyone anything for decent amount of damage, as it helps weaken your opponents the foes.

Team Options
========

* Suicune is often paired with Mega Kangaskhan, (AC) as the latter gives Suicune Fake Out support, and does well once Tailwind is set up, easily OHKOing threats like Terrakion, (RC) and Landorus-T etc.
* Tapu Lele makes a great partner to Suicune, as Psychic Terrain helps block opposing Fake Out and Prankster Taunt. Non-Choice Scarf Tapu Lele appreciates speed control to outspeed faster Pokemon like Landorus-T (Should this be "Choice Scarf Landorus-T"? If Tapu Lele isn't Choice Scarf but is still Timid, it still outspeeds all non-Choice Scarf Landorus-T variants). This also enables Suicune to use Psychic Seed, which boosts Suicune's Special Defense, allowing it to tank hits like special Gigavolt Havoc. This strategy almost always allows Suicune to set up a Tailwind, after which the duo can demolish opposing teams.
* Like previous formats, Breloon Breloom can be used with Suicune to use fast Spores, which is usually a reliable way to shut down Trick Room strategies. However, one has to be careful when facing Tapu Koko or Tapu Fini, as Misty Terrain and Electric Terrains prevents Terrain prevent grounded Pokemon from being put to sleep.
* Tapu Bulu also works here, as it easily OHKOes popular Water-type Pokemon like Tapu Fini, whom which otherwise completely walls wall Suicune.
* Mid speed Middling Speed Pokemon like Sylveon benefits benefit from Tailwind's Speed boost, allowing it to spam Pixilate boosted Hyper Voice them to spam strong moves, which deals massive damage to opposing Pokemon.
* Fire-type Pokemon like Heatran and Charizard can work well with Suicune, (AC) as they take out Grass-type Grass-types, (AC) which usually threatens threaten it.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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* Aguav Berry may be used instead of Sitrus berry to regain larger amounts of HP. However, there is however the risk of being KOed easily if Suicune's HP fails to go below 25% to trigger the Berry's activation.
* Calm Mind can be used to further boost Suicune's Special Defense, (RC) but is outclassed by Tapu Fini due to the latter's coverage options and typing. Icy Wind can give this set a niche over Tapu Fini by providing an additional means of speed control.
* Another tech utility move that can be used is Mirror Coat, which can potentially OHKO Tapu Koko, considering Suicune survives their attack first. However, this isn't recommended in every team, (RC) due to the popularity of Z-Moves, many of which OHKOing Suicune is unable to survive.
* Chesto Berry and + Rest has always been a popular strategy due to Suicune's lack of recover recovery options, (RC) and could be viable once Tailwind is set up for fast full recovery. The only risk in using this set is; (RSC) that this is a one-time (AH) strategy, and it puts you Suicune at a major disadvantage if used for a second time.
* Last but not least, Roar can be used as a tech to counter Trick Room teams, (RC) and to phaze set up setup strategies like Extreme Evoboost and Curse Snorlax.

Checks and Counters
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**Electric-type Electric-types**: Popular Electric-type Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Zapdos can easily KO Suicune with their STAB moves, while and Suicune isn't able to do much damage to them, and it must rely on Tailwind for a Speed advantage.

**Grass-type Grass-types**: Powerful Grass-type Pokemon like Tapu Bulu, Kartana, Ferrothorn, (AC) and Venusaur can KO Suicune with Grass-type moves, (RC) and should be handled with caution.

**Bulky Steel-type Steel-types**: Bulky Steel-type Pokemon like Celesteela and Aegislash walls wall Suicune with their bulk, and they can stall it out with Leech Seed and/or Toxic, (AC) respectively.

**Z-Moves**: Like most of the Pokemon, Suicune is vulnerable to powerful Z-Moves, like Tapu Lele's Shattered Psyche and Tapu Koko's Gigavolt Havoc, and is usually OHKOed by them.
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