Resource SuMo Speed Tiers

[OP]

Below is listed different speeds that LC Pokemon can reach. I've limited it to Pokemon and sets that are somewhat viable and scenarios that are realistic. Post if you think something is missing and should be added or if something isn't necessary and should be removed. Posts about sets that the new Pokemon might run are especially helpful!


Format: Pokemon - Amount of EVs, boosts if applicable

40

Carvanha - 236 EVs, +3 Stages (after three Speed Boosts)

Venipede - 220+ EVs, +3 Stages (after three Speed Boosts)

36

Deerling - 236+ EVs (Chlorophyll)

35

Torchic - 236 EVs, +3 Stages, (after three Speed Boosts)

34

Onix - 196+ EVs, +2 Stages (Weak Armor)

32

Carvanha - 236 EVs, +2 Stages (after two Speed Boosts)

Venipede - 220+ EVs, +2 Stages (after two Speed Boosts)

30

Dwebble - 236 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

Scraggy - 212+ EVs, +2 Stages (after two Dragon Dances)

Vullaby - 196 EVs, +2 Stages (Weak Armor)

28

Binacle - 196 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

Mantyke - 196 EVs (Swift Swim)

Ponyta - 236+ EVs, +1 Stage (after Flame Charge)

Sandshrew-Alola - 196+ EVs (Slush Rush)

Scraggy - 212 EVs, +2 Stages (after two Dragon Dances)

Torchic - 236 EVs, +2 Stages (after two Speed Boosts)

Vullaby - 116 EVs, +2 Stages (Weak Armor)

27

Doduo - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Gastly - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Ponyta - 236 EVs (after Flame Charge)

26

Clamperl - 180+ EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

Cubchoo - 196 EVs (Slush Rush)

Oddish - 196+ EVs (Chlorophyll)

Omanyte - 196 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

Sandshrew-Alola - 196 EVs (Slush Rush)

Shellder - 196 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

25

Chinchou - 220+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Drilbur - 212+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Froakie - 188+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Houndour - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Mankey - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Mienfoo - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Pikipek - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Remoraid - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Snivy - 252+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

24

Bunnelby - 220+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Carvanha - 236 EVs, +1 Stage (after one Speed Boost)

Clamperl - 180 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

Karrablast - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Larvesta - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Oddish - 196 EVs (Chlorophyll)

Pawniard - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Rufflet - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Venipede - 220+ EVs, +1 Stage (after Speed Boost)

Wailmer - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

22

Axew - 220 EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

Bunnelby - 220 EVs (Choice Scarf)

Bulbasaur - 236+ EVs (after Z-Celebrate)

Cranidos - 212 EVs (Choice Scarf)

Darumaka - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Honedge - 132 EVs, +2 Stages (after Autotomize)

Klink - 116 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shift Gear)

Scraggy - 212+ EVs (after Dragon Dance or Choice Scarf)

Tirtouga - 180 EVs, +2 Stages (after Shell Smash)

21

Amaura - 228 EVs (Choice Scarf)

Corphish - 236+ EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

Dratini - 196 EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

Frillish - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Larvitar - 188+ EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

Machop - 236+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Magnemite - 236 EVs (Choice Scarf)

Mudbray - 236 EVs (Choice Scarf)

Scraggy - 212 EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

Shellder - 196+ EVs (Choice Scarf)

Snover - 196+ EVs ( Choice Scarf)

Teddiursa - 196+ EVs (Quick Feet)

Torchic - 236 EVs, +1 Stage (after Speed Boost)

Tyrunt - 212 EVs, +1 Stage (after Dragon Dance)

20

Diglett - 236+ EVs

Elekid - 236+ EVs

Voltorb - 196+ EVs

19

Abra - 196+ EVs

Aipom - 236+ EVs

Buizel - 236+ EVs

Buneary - 236+ EVs

Clamperl - 180+ EVs, +1 Stage (Rattled)

Diglett-Alola - 196+ EVs

Magby - 252+ EVs

Meowth - 196+ EVs

Meowth-Alola - 196+ EVs

Poliwag - 196+ EVs

Ponyta - 196+ EVs

Staryu - 196+ EVs

Taillow - 236+ EVs

Wingull - 236+ EVs

18

Anorith - 236+ EVs

Deerling - 236+ EVs

Doduo - 236+ EVs

Gastly - 196+ EVs

Minccino - 236+ EVs

Ponyta - 196 EVs

Salandit - 220+ EVs

Stunky - 244+ EVs

17

Archen - 196+ EVs

Chinchou - 220+ EVs

Cottonee - 232+ EVs

Drilbur - 212+ EVs

Froakie - 188+ EVs

Houndour - 236+ EVs

Litten - 196+ EVs

Mankey - 196+ EVs

Mienfoo - 236+ EVs

Natu - 196+ EVs

Onix - 196+ EVs

Pikipek - 236+ EVs

Rattata - 180+ EVs

Rattata-Alola - 180+ EVs

Snivy - 252+ EVs

Surskit - 236+ EVs

Tentacool - 196+ EVs

Trubbish - 236+ EVs

Vulpix-Alola - 236+ EVs

Zorua - 236+ EVs

16

Axew - 220+ EVs

Bunnelby - 220+ EVs

Carvanha - 236 EVs

Dwebble - 236+ EVs

Noibat - 236+ EVs

Pawniard - 196+ EVs

Riolu - 196+ EVs

Rufflet - 196+ EVs

Venipede - 220+ EVs

15

Axew - 220 EVs

Binacle - 196+ EVs

Bulbasaur - 236+ EVs

Bunnelby - 220 EVs

Cranidos - 212 EVs

Goldeen - 172 EVs

Magnemite - 236+ EVs

Scraggy - 212+ EVs

Vullaby - 120+ EVs

14

Chinchou - 60 EVs

Corphish - 236+ EVs

Dratini - 196 EVs

Larvitar - 188+ EVs

Magnemite - 236 EVs

Mantyke - 196 EVs

Scraggy - 212 EVs

Stunky - 4 EVs

Teddiursa - 196+ EVs

Tentacool - 36 EVs

Torchic - 236 EVs

Tyrunt - 212 EVs

Vullaby - 120 EVs

13

Clamperl - 180+ EVs

Corphish - 236 EVs

Cottonee - 0 EVs

Cubchoo - 196 EVs

Fletchling - 20 EVs

Larvesta - 36 EVs

Mienfoo - 0 EVs

Oddish - 196+ EVs

Omanyte - 196 EVs

Pancham - 172 EVs

Rockruff - 36 EVs

Sandshrew-Alola - 196 EVs

Shellder - 196 EVs

Vullaby - 36 EVs

Wailmer - 36 EVs

Zigzagoon - 36 EVs

12

Clamperl - 180 EVs

Croagunk - 36 EVs

Ekans - 0 EVs

Fletching - 0 EVs

Growlithe - 0 EVs

Kabuto - 0 EVs

Pineco - 236+ EVs

Riolu - 0 EVs

Spinarak - 196 EVs

Stufful - 36 EVs

Squirtle - 92 EVs

Timburr - 76+ EVs

11

Amaura - 0 EVs

Golett - 76 EVs

Honedge - 132 EVs

Klink - 116 EVs

Mantyke - 0 EVs

Mareanie - 0 EVs

Mudbray - 0 EVs

Numel - 76 EVs

Popplio - 36 EVs

Pumpkaboo-Super - 32 EVs

Rowlett - 20 EVs

Sandshrew - 36 EVs

Tirtouga - 180 EVs

Tyrunt - 0 EVs

Yungoos - 0 EVs

10

Aron - 36 EVs

Cacnea - 0 EVs

Chespin - 0 EVs

Dewpider - 60 EVs

Frillish - 0 EVs

Hippopotas - 20 EVs

Honedge - 52 EVs

Koffing - 0 EVs

Numel - 0 EVs

Omanyte - 0 EVs

Piplup - 0 EVs

Shellos - 4 EVs

Skrelp - 40 EVs

Snover - 0 EVs

Snubbull - 36 EVs

Timburr - 0 EVs

9

Aron - 0 EVs

Bronzor - 16 EVs

Croagunk - 0- EVs

Grimer - 0 EVs

Grimer-Alola - 0 EVs

Lickitung - 0 EVs

Shelmet - 0 EVs

Shieldon - 0 EVs

Skrelp - 0 EVs

Snubbull - 0 EVs

Spritzee - 12 EVs

Some Pokemon have 0 Speed IVs for use on Trick Room teams.

8

Cubone - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Darumaka - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Ferroseed - 36 EVs

Foongus - 0 EVs

Geodude - 0 EVs

Geodude-Alola - 0 EVs

Inkay - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Lileep - 0 EVs

Morelull - 0 EVs

Pancham - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Pumpkaboo-Super - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Sandygast - 0 EVs

Slowpoke - 0 EVs

Tirtouga - 0 EVs

Wooper - 0 EVs

Wynaut - 0 EVs

7

Clamperl - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Munchlax - 0 EVs

Skrelp - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

6

Azurill - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Litwick - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Munna - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Slowpoke - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Solosis - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

Spritzee - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

5

Trapinch - 0- EVs, 0 IVs

 

[Samoyed]

Pokémon Wikia has minispritez, they're in the top right corner beside the Pokemon's image (to the right of its name)

 

[OP]

Pokémon Wikia has minispritez, they're in the top right corner beside the Pokemon's image (to the right of its name)

Thanks, but I actually just finished putting all the new sprites in

 

[Black Buddha]

Perhaps 196+ EV Rufflet (Choice Scarf) could be put in the 24 speed tier? It's probably just as good a Scarfer as Doduo, if not better given its greater power and access to U-Turn.

 

[Highways]

"Klink - 116 EVs, +2 Stages (after Autotomize)"
Klink has Shift Gear right now, so I think that it's worth mentioning it instead of Autotomize

 

[macle]

sandshew aloha in hail add plz

 

[OP]

Perhaps 196+ EV Rufflet (Choice Scarf) could be put in the 24 speed tier? It's probably just as good a Scarfer as Doduo, if not better given its greater power and access to U-Turn.

Added

"Klink - 116 EVs, +2 Stages (after Autotomize)"
Klink has Shift Gear right now, so I think that it's worth mentioning it instead of Autotomize

Whoops, that's what I meant to put.

sandshew aloha in hail add plz

Already there

 

[Altariel von Sweep]

You forgot Sandshrew-Alola +196 EVs (Slush Rush), which it reaches 28 Speed tier, also being a good option to outspeed common scarf Pokémon such as Doduo and Gastly.

 

[Fiend]

little thing i noticed--you're missing weak armor vulla. +2 speed, and v good rn. probably should be in just 30. not sure what others run though.

 

[OP]

You forgot Sandshrew-Alola +196 EVs (Slush Rush), which it reaches 28 Speed tier, also being a good option to outspeed common scarf Pokémon such as Doduo and Gastly.

Most people I've talked to don't think it's worth running Jolly, but I'm open to add this if more people think it's good.

little thing i noticed--you're missing weak armor vulla. +2 speed, and v good rn. probably should be in just 30. not sure what others run though.

Added

Also changed CM Gothita from 11 to 12, as suggested by trash

 

[Conni]

Jolly Choice Scarf Slush Rush Alolan Sandshrew + 196 Speed EVs reaches 42 Speed in hail, so maybe this is worth adding?

 

[Berks]

Jolly Choice Scarf Slush Rush Alolan Sandshrew + 196 Speed EVs reaches 42 Speed in hail, so maybe this is worth adding?

Speaking as a lover of Choice Scarf, you should never seriously run this set. If you're doubling Speed already there is no need to Choice-lock yourself.

However, I do support adding Jolly Slushrew, as it really does guarantee you beat Doduo no matter what in Hail, which is pretty significant; it also allows you to get the jump on Weak Armor Omanyte, which has the potential to be significant due to Omanyte's Ice resist and Steel neutrality. From some playtesting I haven't noticed a significant difference in the effectiveness of either set, so adding Jolly would not be a bad idea.

 

[OP]

Speaking as a lover of Choice Scarf, you should never seriously run this set. If you're doubling Speed already there is no need to Choice-lock yourself.

However, I do support adding Jolly Slushrew, as it really does guarantee you beat Doduo no matter what in Hail, which is pretty significant; it also allows you to get the jump on Weak Armor Omanyte, which has the potential to be significant due to Omanyte's Ice resist and Steel neutrality. From some playtesting I haven't noticed a significant difference in the effectiveness of either set, so adding Jolly would not be a bad idea.

alright, might as well n_n

 

[Munjartiste]

I think Mudbray 236 EVs (Choice scarf) is worth adding in the 21 speed tier, it is bulky and have a beautiful coverage and damn, 100bs atk.

 

[mad0ka]

Timid bellsprout is probably worth adding to the 28 speed tier

 

[Berks]

Porygon and Cutiefly need to go

Drifloon is coming back

 

[Fiend]

Porygon and Cutiefly need to go

Drifloon is coming back

did pory & cutie. waiting on floon since, you know, it could not be legal.

 

[Berks]

did pory & cutie. waiting on floon since, you know, it could not be legal.

I thought macle tagged the immortal to unban it

 

[Coconut]

I thought macle tagged the immortal to unban it

For the suspect, doesn't mean it's legal.

 

[Drew]

You should prob add +1 Weak Armor Vullaby to the 21 Speed tier.

 

[OP]

You should prob add +1 Weak Armor Vullaby to the 21 Speed tier.

I don't think Rock Tomb / Low Sweep are prominent enough to include this and I can't think of any other viable reason Vullaby would be at only +1

 

[Drew]

I don't think Rock Tomb / Low Sweep are prominent enough to include this and I can't think of any other viable reason Vullaby would be at only +1

Idk mudbray carries it a lot from what I've seen, but at least add +2 14 Speed Vull to 28.

 

[mad0ka]

14 Spe Bellsprout out of sun is not listed in the 14 spe section

 

[churine]

When you guys gonna remove Gothita from this list now that it's been banned?

Also if you're gonna add Bounsweet you might as well add Fomantis. 236 EVs & add it to 13 speed tier.

Lastly, add 252+ EVs Crabrawler to the 17 speed tier because Crabrawler should run max speed.

 

[OP]

When you guys gonna remove Gothita from this list now that it's been banned?

Also if you're gonna add Bounsweet you might as well add Fomantis. 236 EVs & add it to 13 speed tier.

Lastly, add 252+ EVs Crabrawler to the 17 speed tier because Crabrawler should run max speed.

Removed Gothita and deleted mentions of some SM Pokemon that were there initially because we didn't know how good they are, but now we know they're not really viable, including Bounsweet and Crabrawler. If anyone wants to make a case to add some back, I'm open ears. I also added Bulbasaur to 22 for its Z-Celebrate set.