Not the greatest run, cycled through various random teams because I was too lazy to cteam ladder but what works, works. My thoughts on Zama are outlined in detail in my post in the
main thread which I hope you'd give a read but that's unlikely so I'll take some excerpts to summarise why I'll most likely be
voting Do Not Ban on Zamazenta because I am lazy and it is late!
> A Zama ban would really entail would be to serve as a catalyst for further bans, its speed and defensive utility is important in maintaining the offensive pace of the meta, checking dangerous threats like Chien-Pao and Roaring Moon.
> It's my view that a core cause to this to the general sense of stagnation in structures is not primarily due to the pressure from the offensive mons (like Zamazenta) present but due to the limitations of the dex we are given and that even if we ban these offensive mons that structures will still remain mostly stagnant (people will still use the top mons Corv, Tusk, Ghold, Regenvests, etc* a lot and the niche gimmicky sets a little bit around these core mons as the meta optimises over time and we'll just get bored again).
> "De-offensing" the meta by banning all the "fast, strong guys" (Zama -> Pao -> RMoon) will not even lower the offensive floor as it simply opens the door for many other slower threats (Pons, other Fighting types, Ghosts, etc*)
> Fluffy and Pecharunt are two very big things that already check Zama quite well but I've never had the experience that "I'm forced" into those archetypes either to deal with Zama, sure Intimidate Corv or some fat Tusk is weaker but it's still more than do-able with those mons and just a decent Fighting resist/immunity (Scream-Tail, defensive Moltres, Gholdengo, Ceruledge, etc*), and loading 2 soft checks to something sometimes when you want isn't any indication it's broken. If you want an example there's berry's w2 game utilising Intim Corv and some soft-checks (that were good anyway) and it was a clean sweep and a lot of these Intim Corv just leverage it and some other random resists, and Glory also has good examples with Regen Tusk. Also I'm mainly talking about CB/SoR variants because IDBP is ass.
> On IDBP I don't believe that IDBP is meaningfully awful as a fish. I went through my own memory and can't find a single tournament win, with the 4 (or 5) examples when it was brought ALL being losses. Here's
Binacle Pinnacle vs Kinetic and
QT vs Kinetic (for some reason people like using IDBP against Kinetic lmao). These uses were in OMPL and AAAPL respectfully, before when this craze was going on so you can hardly say people are "hard prepping" for it, there's also
DFM vs O1 and
Nashrock vs Glory. I find it a bit absurd people keep on bringing up Soundproof Zama even though the set is awful and no one actually has ever used the thing. Wow you beat STail. That's basically it. You don't even beat Pecha since it beats you not by PShotting but by clicking the damaging move. You can always fish in theory with some moveset and ability but the relevance is questionable.
