Project SV OU - Lure That Threat Week 39 - Gliscor - Voting!

[sggk]

 

[sufys]

 

[fly casanova]

Macargo’s - just gave sub a shot over wisp, and yup, smoked an unassuming Garg first game. Even without physdef investment it takes multiple salt cures to break the sub

 

[Turtlek]

Y’all hate funny sets

Also, c’mon, vote

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

Y’all hate funny sets

Also, c’mon, vote

Hey. I will not be considering the Cyclizar submission since it got banned a few days ago. You can change your vote if you want to.

 

[Venduria]

Thank you to everyone who made a submission this week. You can vote for up up 2 of the following lures

Choice Specs Hydro Pump by brokenmotor
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I don't see brokenmotor's post regarding this, but I did post my own Dragalge set.

 

[brokenmotor]

Choice Specs Hydro Pump by brokenmotor

yeah this isn't me

 

[zaydapoketrainer]

damn no votes at all :( took me a while to find that set
Dragalge / Roaring moon for me

 

[STEELDRAGON]

Arcanine and Dragalge

 

[callforjudgement]

Voting for Roaring Moon and Garganacl. (My votes on these are based primarily around "what would actually persuade the thing we're trying to lure to switch in" – otherwise you're just countering/checking rather than luring.)

 

[Eeveeto]

 

[SunCooled]

DD Sub ayevon
Sub Magcargo

looking like a clean sweep this week, nice submissions fellas

 

[SetsuSetsuna]

Congrats to Magcargo and Skeledirge for winning Week 4. The set is now added in the Hall of Fame.

For Week 5 of Lure that Threat we have Choice Band Chien-Pao


Chien-Pao @ Choice Band
Ability: Sword of Ruin
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Crunch
- Ice Shard / Sucker Punch
- Ice Spinner / Icicle Crash
- Sacred Sword ​

With the recent Chi-Yu ban, Choice Band Chien-Pao has become one of the most dangerous breakers in the tier. With it's blazing speed allowing it to get the jump on Iron Valiant, as well as Roaring Moon and Cinderace if it's running Jolly. Tera Dark lets it 2HKO even resists such as max HP Azumarill. With all this power Chien-Pao tends to be tasked to revenging certain threats, which can make it rather susceptible to be lure. What Pokemon are able to do this?

Submissions end of Tuesday January 17th at 23:59 EST ​

 

[Coolcodename]

reserving scarf iron valiant

Iron Valiant @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Quark Drive
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Moonblast
- Close Combat
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball

This is one of the best revenge killers vs Chien-Pao in the whole tier right now, Iron Valiant with a choice scarf is able to outspeed and OHKO Chien-Pao with a Moonblast or a Close Combat

252 SpA Iron Valiant Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chien-Pao: 414-488 (137.5 - 162.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

all while eating an ice shard from Banded and SD Chien-Pao Fairly well

252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Valiant: 148-175 (51.2 - 60.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Valiant: 198-234 (68.5 - 80.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

if things get dicy and your Iron Valiant is low on health then fret not as tera steel is always a good backup in such cases vs Chien-Pao and other threats as well

252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Steel Iron Valiant: 74-87 (25.6 - 30.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

+2 252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Steel Iron Valiant: 99-117 (34.2 - 40.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[1LDK]

Reserving Roaring Moon





Roaring Moon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Atk / 52 Def
Impish Nature
- Brick Break
- Dragon Claw
- Crunch
- Earthquake


Today, in another episode of cooking lures with 1LDK, we have Bulky Scarf Tera Fighting Roaring Moon, the plan is simple, no speed + scarf outspeed pao by 6 points (hits 411), 204 Atk with Brick Break Tera fighting ALWAYS OHKOS, the HP and defense allow us to take anything once

calcs wall

and if anyones is curious
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 52+ Def Tera Fighting Roaring Moon: 139-165 (33.5 - 39.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

[Taka]

Clodsire @ Heavy-Duty Boots/Yache Berry
Ability: Unaware
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Body Press
- Spikes
- Toxic
- Recover

Good chance to OHKO Chien Pao:

252+ Def Clodsire Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 284-336 (94.3 - 111.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Always lives HDB Icicle Crash without Yache Berry:

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clodsire: 344-408 (74.2 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Always lives Banded Tera Dark Crunch:

252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Clodsire: 356-420 (76.8 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Always lives Banded Tera Ice Icicle Crash with Yache Berry or Tera:

252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Ice Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Yache Berry Clodsire: 378-446 (81.6 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Clodsire supremacy

 

[Turtlek]

Roaring Moon @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Jaw Lock
- Earthquake
- Roost
ID Garg is a very good counter to Roaring Moon, so you Tera, you trap and you setup. You can hope a critical hit and you pp stall anyway. They can’t damage you except with Salt Cure’s base damage.

Lmao
Roaring Moon @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Jaw Lock
- Tera Blast
- Roost
The same. You Tera, you trap and you set-up.

 

[yeshahar]

Dragonite @ Choice Band
Ability: Multiscale
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 108 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 144 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower / Hurricane
- Ice Spinner

GG guys. No more ice crash flinches. DNITE SUPREMACY.

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Normal Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 265-313 (88 - 103.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes

252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 108 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 258-306 (73.7 - 87.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

4 SpA Tera Fire Dragonite Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chien-Pao: 276-326 (91.6 - 108.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after 1 layer of Spikes


LMAOOO U CAN EVEN USE TERA FLAMETHROWER AND KILL JAJJAJAJAAAAAA

daddy chill

credits to storm zone so hot

 

[Supersam10001]

Weaville-

- The mon that lost all viablility when chien-pao arrived.

Thinking that it can switch into any move that weaville uses, it switches in and gets hit by a choice scarfed low kick.
Weavile @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Pickpocket
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 96 HP / 220 Atk / 192 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 0 SpA
- Low Kick
- Night Slash
- Ice Spinner
- Ice Shard

220+ Atk Tera Fighting Weavile Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera Dark Chien-Pao: 402-474 (133.5 - 157.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 96 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 258-304 (84.5 - 99.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
While with choice scarf and 192 speed you hit 501 speed

 

[Contrary Servine]

Tera Bug Pollen Puff Amoonguss

Amoonguss @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Tera Type: Bug
EVs: 248 HP / 224 Def / 36 SpAtk
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Pollen Puff
- Sludge Bomb
- Foul Play
- Spore

In the true spirit of MudkipNerd, I present Tera Bug Amoonguss. Pao is normally content to switch in on Amoonguss, especially if brought in safely by a teammate, and threatens the OHKO with Icicle Crash/Ice Spinner. Tera Bug allows Amoonguss to bulk the hit and fire back with a now STAB Pollen Puff that OHKOs after Rocky Helmet chip if Pao is running Ice Spinner. Tera Bug is preferred over a Tera type such as Water or Steel as it enables Amoonguss to retain key resistances to Fighting and Grass that allow it to continue to check other threats such as Breloom, Meowscarada and Quaquaval as well as an improved match-up against Great Tusk, now resisting both of its STABs. Pollen Puff also hits Roaring Moon and the rare Lokix and Hydreigon, as well as Espathra on the switch.

Calcs:
252+ Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 224+ Def Tera Bug Amoonguss: 267-315 (61.8 - 72.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
36 SpA Tera Bug Amoonguss Pollen Puff vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chien-Pao: 252-296 (83.7 - 98.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Rocky Helmet damage
36 SpA Tera Bug Amoonguss Pollen Puff vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Roaring Moon: 176-210 (50.1 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[LoseToRU?]

Reserving Garchomp

Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Endure
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Spikes

Most Chomps right now are ChainChomp, aka without any HP/Def investment, which is OHKO by Pao, so Pao feels safe.
252+ Atk Choice Band Dark Tera Type Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp affected by Sword of Ruin: 198-234 (108.1 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

This Endure set will always 1v1 the Pao spread listed above.
Endure chomp is my baby right now. Shout out Gen 6. M-Lop still having war flashbacks.
This set is wild vs offense in general. Proud to bring this back to the meta.

Pao takes 28% chip when it attacks with Crunch, then another with Endure, so Pao loses 56% HP.
Chomp always lives a Crunch so you Can EQ, then endure, to always win the 1v1 when locked into Crunch or Sacred

Terra Water is for locked into Crash, which it seems to rarely be locked into.
You even win if they get a flinch lol
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp affected by Sword of Ruin: 56-66 (26 - 30.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

4 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 163-193 (54.1 - 64.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Really though, this is just a pain for the bread and butter CB Terra Dark Crunch set.
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp affected by Sword of Ruin: 106-126 (49.3 - 58.6%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO
As long as you keep chomp around, Pao can't spam Crunch unless it wants to take 56%.
If you have SR/Spikes up, this limits Pao switch-ins heavily.

Also, it might just be my luck, by more often than not I get double endure.
It's 1/3 chance for you to be able to click it twice in a row, not bad really.

 

[zaydapoketrainer]

No offense, but not sure if other posters realize this is "lure that threat" not revenge kill that threat.
Pao isn't staying in on some of these mons either if locked into the wrong move...

So anyway, actual lures.
Mons that Pao swears it can 1v1 when locked into certain moves
Gonna try to focus as much as I can on not winning via Terra.
You could lure any mon with a random Terra...
I did add Tera aspects to these sets, but really those are secondary/emergency options.

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Brute Bonnet @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 200 Def
Impish Nature
- Close Combat
- Spore
- Synthesis
- Seed Bomb

Now this is a lure.
It's slower, and weak to Crash and Sword.
It scares out Crunch locked Pao and doesn't care if it's Terra Dark, then allows a spore or recovery for later on the switch.

252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Brute Bonnet affected by Sword of Ruin: 54-64 (24.7 - 29.3%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
With HDB it always lives the other attacks
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Brute Bonnet affected by Sword of Ruin: 162-192 (74.3 - 88%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 200+ Def Brute Bonnet affected by Sword of Ruin: 154-182 (70.6 - 83.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

If you Terra Fairy, Crash turns into a 3hko, crunch and sacred of course 4 and 5hko, respectively.

56 Atk Brute Bonnet Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 140-166 (90.3 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
A full HP Pao is a myth, but if you happen to not get rocks up, spikes up, tpikes up, some RH chip, or any chip then u might need to Terra fairy if you don't want to risk a low roll or flinch.
Worst case scenario they have a Pao at 10% or asleep lol

If you're worried about the mythical full HP Pao this spread lets you always OHKO and live any attack
Brute Bonnet @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Protosynthesis
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 188 Atk / 68 Def
Impish Nature
- Close Combat
- Spore
- Synthesis
- Seed Bomb

188 Atk Brute Bonnet Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 156-184 (100.6 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 252 HP / 68+ Def Brute Bonnet affected by Sword of Ruin: 182-216 (83.4 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 68+ Def Brute Bonnet affected by Sword of Ruin: 172-204 (78.8 - 93.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Endure
- Earthquake
- Dragon Tail
- Spikes

Endure chomp is my baby right now. Shout out Gen 6. M-Lop still having war flashbacks.
This set is wild vs offense in general. Proud to bring this back to the meta.
Pao takes 28% chip when it attacks with Crunch, then another with Endure, so Pao loses 56% HP.
Chomp always lives a Crunch so you Can EQ, then endure, to always win the 1v1 when locked into Crunch or Sacred

Terra water is for locked into Crash, which it seems to rarely be locked into.
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp affected by Sword of Ruin: 37-44 (17.2 - 20.4%) -- possible 5HKO

Really though, this is just a pain for the bread and butter CB Terra Dark Crunch set.
252+ Atk Choice Band Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Garchomp affected by Sword of Ruin: 106-126 (49.3 - 58.6%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO
As long as you keep chomp around, Pao can't spam Crunch unless it wants to take 56%.
If you have SR/Spikes up, this limits Pao switch-ins heavily.

Also, it might just be my luck, by more often than not I get double endure.
It's 1/3 chance for you to be able to click it twice in a row, not bad really.


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Cinderace @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Libero
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- U-turn
- High Jump Kick
- Court Change

Pao's strength comes from Terra Dark Crunch, which is a OHKO on this soccer rabbit.
Unless, you're scarfed ayyy
Scarf Cinder is slept on enough for a Pao to not assume you are scarf.
U-turn is almost a clean OHKO, and of course HJK is a OHKO
Obviously don't reveal it early, but worse case scenario they switch out as you U-Turn for momentum.

252 Atk Protean Cinderace U-turn vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 134-158 (86.4 - 101.9%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Protean Cinderace High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 248-294 (160 - 189.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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Between these 3 sets, you should be able to catch a Pao off guard and remove it from the battle.

gotta pick one i think

 

[zaydapoketrainer]

Ting-Lu @ Leftovers
Ability: Vessel of Ruin
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature
- Body Press
- Earthquake
- Heavy Slam
- Spikes / Whirlwind
Yall needa give everyone like a few hours to atleast make a set bro it the first time i hopped on today and there is a full page of lures
This is my trademark ting-lu set, does more than most ting-lus bc yall cant understand the power of 3a ting-lu. Body press ohkoes pao, tera steel for the icicle crash, or just fuck tera steel and EAT. the hit.
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Ting-Lu: 362-428 (70.4 - 83.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
100+ Def Ting-Lu Body Press vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao: 404-476 (134.2 - 158.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
the evs are probably for smth cool that i forgot
hf

 

[LoseToRU?]

gotta pick one i think

Oh mb this is my first lure thread, is this like a contest or something lol
I'll edit my post, ty

edit: ok I read the first page lol, I randomly stumbled on this Pao post somehow lol

 

[Venduria]

Rabsca @ Heavy-Duty Boots / Leppa Berry
Ability: Synchronize
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Revival Blessing
- Trick Room
- Bug Buzz
- Psyshock

Standard TR Rabsca but with HDB as an option to guarantee 100% HP. With that bulk you barely live 1 CB Icicle Crash if its already locked into it.
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tera Fairy Rabsca: 297-351 (84.1 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Tera Fairy lets you tank CB Tera Dark Crunch without issue and lets you Trick Room in its face.
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Crunch vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tera Fairy Rabsca: 187-220 (52.9 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

If it is locked to Sucker Punch, you can set up Trick Room and Revival Blessing while it is forced to either switch or stay to get Sucker Punch off.
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Sucker Punch vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tera Fairy Rabsca: 164-193 (46.4 - 54.6%) -- 59.8% chance to 2HKO

Sacred Sword lol
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tera Fairy Rabsca: 105-124 (29.7 - 35.1%) -- 17.3% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Sacred Sword vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Rabsca: 52-62 (14.7 - 17.5%) -- possible 6HKO

Two Ice Shards fail to KO as well.
252 Atk Choice Band Sword of Ruin Tera Dark Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Tera Fairy Rabsca: 141-166 (39.9 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

If Rabsca is in full HP, you can guarantee a TR use and always kill with Bug Buzz. There is no way other than a crit for Rabsca to lose.
252+ SpA Tera Fairy Rabsca Bug Buzz vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Dark Chien-Pao: 420-494 (139.5 - 164.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Let's give this forgotten bug a little limelight in this lure option. HDB vs Leppa Berry comes down to whether you think you will get 2 Revival Blessings off, or want safer switches with hazards around. I prefer HDB myself.