Use goat sand force excadrill or lorb if ur weird and ig adamant works too
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Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4
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It did lose defog. My main point was that in Gen 8, t-tar was OU. I also don't think that it is going to RU, but weirder things can happen.
It's kind of the Council's fault for letting Terapagos start out in OU. One of the most obvious bans in the game.
ttar was ou largely due to it having conveniently useful defensive traits that let it get on the field and use choice band sets well. This gen it simply cannot do that at all and is just a bad Pokémon. Defog Latias isn’t really a relevant issue because offensive sets will do fine in UU.
pretty much all of the fast fighting Type do between 65-80% to 160 Hp 252 ev Terapagos.
that should be enough to check it considering it should never be in the stellar form at max hp.
but your best response is gonna be in the defensively with something like blissey or Ting lu who just sit on everything terapagos does unless it stacks up calm minds.
POV, gholdengo is getting worse in the metagame with the addition of temper flare so you can finally defog
Anyone defoggers that get temper flare or stomping tantrum? cuz then gholdengo is bouta get gholdengoobed
A man can dream
I'm thinking of pulling out banded meowscarada with Flower Trick/Knock Off/U-turn/Triple Axel for some shenanigans
Talon flame got temper flare as did Cyclizar
gholdengo will probably somehow still be nasty af
The regular Terapagos form has a 25% chance of OHKOing Valiant with 252 SpA Tera Starstorm, while Valiant has a 50% of OHKOing Terapagos with 252 Atk Close Combat if the latter runs 252 HP EVs. But, Terapagos' ability actually turns CC into a not very effective move, meaning it actually only deals 18.1 - 21.4% to it at full health. And this is only the regular form, Close Combat does only 78.5 - 92.8% to the 160 Base HP version, with no HP investment.
i don't think so. there's enough precedent in mega rayquaza that it could be done pretty straightforwardly and i think it would be a move that the vast majority of people would agree with if the stellar stellar form is clearly broken but the regular form is clearly not. part of the reason we didn't ban firepon from teraing was because the whole mon was broken.
Calling Terapagos an obvious ban is incredibly dismissive to the fact that we had no idea about how the Stellar type operated at the time of the decision and still have no idea about how it will play in practice in tandem with factors like Tera opportunity cost and Terapagos’s abstract design in general. If it’s “obviously” broken we will act quickly, just as we did with Regieleki and Magearna earlier this generation. Until we see it in action I would appreciate it if we kept an open mind, thanks
On a brighter note, I’m really excited to try out Hydrapple and Raging Bolt; both of these Pokemon bring interesting offensive tools and defensive profiles into the metagame and I’m personally hyped to try and build with them!
Yep. It'll be a great user of the new Tera type too for burst damage on crucial targets. I suspect a boots set with Triple Axel / Flower Trick / Knock Off / Low Kick will be very difficult to wall.
Great tusk got temper flare,too
And as has been mentioned before, the overall metagame might get more hostile for dengo, between dark types (darkrai, meow, weavile, roaring moon, gambit) n' stuff like gouging fire etc
so we can change your forum name to "i was wrong, sorry" if it is not the first ban?
Common Finch W
Also, in your opinion, what mon do you think is the least balanced and the most likely to get banned first?
I have no opinion because the tier is not yet playable. Any complaining at this point is silly and pointless like the post I was responding to. We will address it all like we always do.
This, this is what is so great about the council and smogon. They aren't like your normal "were so sorry, owo", they actually diss people. It makes it infinetely funnier and makes them feel more human, and thus, more connected to the community.
we do it for fun at the end of the day, so why the hell not 
not just the tera opportunity cost (which zygarde-complete did not suffer with), terapagos-stellar is a normal-type mon with no recovery in the generation of entry hazards. no useful STAB (though no lack or even need of coverage either), boots vs no boots dilemma, calm mind and rock polish as its only setup options, the transformation foregoes its incredible souped-up multiscale ability for a souped-up cloud nine instead, etc. zygarde-complete had ground STAB that damaged fliers, useful resistances (including stealth rock), dragon dance, glare, and 58 more base HP than terapagos-stellar after transformation (which did need losing some to trigger, but still). of course it might be too much for an OU tier, but i can see why it's being given a shot.
I'm thinking a gold pacifier badge for that and especially if darkrai ends up not in the top 20
I keep checking showdown but the chat is so toxic. People that haven't played a single game calling everything broken.
Ubers UU is surprisingly balanced and OU may end up balanced with many of the things people are doom prophesizing over- it just may not resemble gen 6 7 8 which is EXPECTED.