Ubers Tapu Fini

[Aberforth]

[Overview]

Tapu Fini can trap a number of bulky Pokemon in Ubers such as Eternatus and Yveltal, opening up holes for teammates to take advantage of. By virtue of its Fairy typing and Misty Surge, Tapu Fini can reliably check Zygarde and Yveltal, although it doesn't appreciate Yveltal's Knock Off. Misty Surge is highly appreciated by teammates like Groudon that do not want to be affected by status conditions and prevents Zygarde and Xerneas from using Rest. However, Tapu Fini's poor Speed and damage output mean that it does not have a good matchup against the more dangerous offensive staples like Calyrex-S, Groudon, and Kyogre. Furthermore, Misty Terrain preventing status from defensively checking opposing setup sweepers limits Tapu Fini's potential teammates.

[SET]
Name: Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Nature's Madness
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Moonblast
item: Leftovers
ability: Misty Surge
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Whirlpool allows Tapu Fini to trap bulky foes that cannot significantly threaten it such as specially defensive Eternatus, some Necrozma-DM sets, and Ferrothorn without Grass-type coverage. Nature's Madness combined with Taunt and the residual damage from Whirlpool lets Tapu Fini KO most defensive Pokemon in Ubers. Moonblast helps Tapu Fini defensively check Zygarde, Yveltal, and Marshadow, although its lack of reliable recovery means it cannot do so consistently throughout a game. The lack of reliable recovery also means it can only normally trap one Pokemon per game, as it will normally take significant damage in the process. 56 Speed EVs guarantee that Tapu Fini will outspeed Calyrex-I and paralyzed Calyrex-S.

Tapu Fini partners best with offensive wallbreakers that appreciate its Misty Surge and trapping capabilities. Kyogre in particular appreciates Misty Surge both halving Eternatus's damage output with Dynamax Cannon and Draco Meteor and making Toxic fail, allowing it to potentially set up on Eternatus. Tapu Fini can also trap Blissey, one of Kyogre's sturdiest defensive answers. Marshadow and offensive Ho-Oh enjoy Tapu Fini preventing Zygarde, as well as other defensive Pokemon like Xerneas, Giratina, and Kyogre, from recovering with Rest. Galarian Darmanitan appreciates Tapu Fini potentially trapping Necrozma-DM and not having to fear paralysis. Galarian Darmanitan can also bring Tapu Fini onto the field frequently with U-turn, giving Tapu Fini an easier time trapping its targets. Heatran can be used alongside Tapu Fini to trap a wider range of Pokemon, including all defensive Eternatus sets. Tapu Fini can protect Groudon from status so it can set up more easily, and Tapu Fini checks one of Groudon's better answers in Zygarde.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

A Choice Scarf set with Trick over Taunt allows Tapu Fini to potentially surprise an offensive Pokemon like Marshadow while still letting it trap most of its defensive targets and potentially cripple another by using Trick. Defog can be used over Moonblast to provide extra hazard control if necessary, but it also removes Misty Terrain and makes Tapu Fini far too passive.

Checks and Counters
====

**Strong Offensive Pokemon**: Tapu Fini cannot take many neutral hits in Ubers, and Pokemon like offensive Necrozma-DM, Xerneas, Groudon, and Kyogre can overwhelm it fairly easily.

**Zekrom**: Zekrom's Bolt Strike OHKOes Tapu Fini, it is not OHKOed by Moonblast, and it even appreciates Misty Terrain. Zekrom doesn't like its Dragon-type STAB being weakened by Misty Terrain, though.

**Setup Sweepers**: Tapu Fini's poor damage output and Speed mean it can be set up on by most dangerous sweepers like Nasty Plot Calyrex-S and Geomancy Xerneas.

**Necrozma-DM**: Necrozma-DM can 3HKO Tapu Fini with Sunsteel Strike after Stealth Rock, preventing it from being trapped by Tapu Fini, although Tapu Fini can trap Iron Head variants very reliably.

**Ho-Oh**: While Ho-Oh dislikes not being able to burn or paralyze its targets, it will take on Tapu Fini fairly reliably thanks to Regenerator and Brave Bird. It can even use Defog to remove Misty Terrain.

**Eternatus**: Sludge Bomb Eternatus can easily come in on Tapu Fini and prevent it from making progress by threatening an OHKO and recovering off any chip damage taken in the process. However, without Sludge Bomb, Eternatus is one of Tapu Fini's targets.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aberforth, 249382]]
- Quality checked by: [[TrueNora, 430286], [FC, 511624]]
- Grammar checked by: [[lotiasite, 302985], [DC, 449990]]

 

[TrueNora]

"Tapu Fini can trap a number of bulky Pokemon in the Ubers metagame, opening up holes for teammates to take advantage of. By virtue of its Fairy typing and Misty Surge, Tapu Fini can reliably check Zygarde and Yveltal."
Could frame it differently, since Tapu Fini's main niche is Misty Terrain. Maybe specify Yveltal variants lacking Knock Off, as Tapu Fini dislikes losing its only source of recovery. Change it to soft check Yveltal and Eternatus lacking Sludge Bomb? Also add how it can reliably switch into Darmanitan-Galar.

"... status conditions like Toxic and paralysis."
just make it status conditions? or make it poison/include burn.

"... and Ferrothorn without Power Whip"
change it to grass coverage instead of whip. Bullet Seed also relevant.

I would move up offensive Ho-Oh in the teammates section and put more emphasis on its ability to stop rest from Zygarde, Xerneas and occasionally Kyogre. Would also add Marshadow as a potential partner, as preventing the former two from resting makes it more threatening.

Checks and Counters
-Lunala
Would remove this mention because it doesn't really beat Fini. Hex without status does pitiful damage and Moongeist Beam is hard to fit on defensive sets.

-Ho-Oh
Mention how more offensively inclined sets with Brave Bird can severely dent Fini, and how Fini cannot fit a stronger water move to really threaten Ho-Oh back.

Faster Offensive Pokemon: Tapu Fini cannot take many neutral hits in Ubers, and Pokemon like Offensive Necrozma-DM, Xerneas, Groudon and Kyogre can all overwhelm it fairly easily.
maybe just change this to strong offensive Pokemon? none of the mons you listed are fast.

- add Necrozma-DM (though it has to have Sunsteel Strike) as a check. With only minor chip (like SR), Necrozma-DM is favored to beat Tapu Fini 1v1 as Sunsteel Strike 3HKOes. Magnezone also strictly outclasses it as a Necrozma-DM trapper, althought it can trap Iron Head variants of Necrozma-DM reliably.

S/o FatFighter2 for the help.
QC 1/2

 

[Fc]

You mention it in the teammates section but when talking about it beating Zygarde and Yveltal in the op I'd mention again how Misty Terrain stops zyg's Rest and ig by extension things like Xerneas, that's a huge part of its gameplan against fat with mons that need Zygarde weakened.

**Eternatus**: Eternatus with Sludge Bomb can easily come in on Tapu Fini and prevent it from making progress, threatening a OHKO and recovering off any chip taken in the process.

move this to the bottom, it needs sludge otherwise fini is the one that beats it 1v1

**Ho-Oh**: While Ho-Oh dislikes not being able to burn or paralyze its targets, it will take on Tapu Fini fairly reliably, being able to recover off damage taken via Regenerator and offensively threatening Tapu Fini with Brave Bird. It can even Defog to remove the terrain that Tapu Fini tries to provide its teammates.

personally don't like this because it can't switch in and might not even win the 1v1 w whirlpoool damage depending on spreads and health, if you want to keep it and Nora / other qc members are fine with it I'd just move it lower, but if you're using ho-oh as the primary fini switch in idk

looks good otherwise 2/2

 

[Aberforth]

Implemented the above, I've moved Ho-oh to just above Etern at the bottom of the checks list.

 

[lotiasite]

check 1/2

[Overview]

Tapu Fini can trap a number of bulky Pokemon in the Ubers metagame, opening up holes for teammates to take advantage of. By virtue of its Fairy typing and Misty Surge, Tapu Fini can reliably check Zygarde and Yveltal, although it doesn'(apo)t appreciate giving up its item to Yveltal's Knock Off. Misty Surge is highly appreciated by teammates whothat do not want to be affected by status conditions, as well as preventing and prevents Zygarde and Xerneas from using Rest. Tapu Fini's poor sSpeed and initial (what does initial mean in this context? Does its damage output get better over time or something?) damage output mean that it does not have a good matchup against the more dangerous offensive staples of the tier like Calyrex-S, Groudon, and Kyogre. BecauseFurthermore, Misty Terrain affects all Pokemon on the field, Tapu Fini's teammates cannot be reliant on Status topreventing status from defensively checking opposing setup sweepers, (RC) limitings Tapu Fini's potential teammates.

[SET]
Name: Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Nature's Madness
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Moonblast
item: Leftovers
ability: Misty Surge
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Whirlpool allows Tapu Fini to trap bulky foes that cannot significantly threaten it such as specially defensive Eternatus, some Necrozma-DM sets, and Ferrothorn without Grass-type coverage, with only Ghost T-types and the rare Shed Shell users avoiding being trapped. Nature's Madness combined with Taunt and the residual damage from Whirlpool lets Tapu Fini KO most defensive pPokemon in Ubers. Moonblast lethelps Tapu Fini hitdefensively check Zygarde, Yveltal and Marshadow for respectable damage, allowing it to defensively check each of them, (AC) and Marshadow, although its lack of reliable recovery means it cannot do so consistently throughout a game. The lack of reliable recovery also means it can only normally trap one Pokemon per game, as it will normally take significant damage in the process. 56 Speed EVs guarantee that Tapu Fini will outspeed all Calyrex-I and paralyzed Calyrex-S.

Tapu Fini partners best with offensive breakers that appreciate its Misty Surge as well as it being able to trap specific walls. Kyogre in particular appreciates Tapu Fini's abilityMisty Surge both halving Eternatus's damage output with Dynamax Cannon and Draco Meteor, as well as and making Toxic fail, allowing Kyogre to potentially set up on Eternatus. Tapu Fini can also trap Blissey, one of Kyogre's sturdiest defensive answers. Marshadow and offensive Ho-Oh sets enjoy Tapu Fini preventing Zygarde from recovering with Rest, as well as other defensive Pokemon like Xerneas, Giratina, (AC) and Kyogre who rely on Rest for recovery, from recovering with Rest. Galarian Darmanitan appreciates Tapu Fini potentially trapping Necrozma-DM, and appreciates not having to fear paralysis. Galarian Darmanitan can also bring Tapu Fini onto the field frequently with U-turn, giving Tapu Fini an easier time trapping its targets. Heatran can be used alongside Tapu Fini to trap a wider range of Pokemon, including all defensive Eternatus sets. Tapu Fini can protect Groudon from status afflictions so it can set up easiermore easily, and Tapu Fini checks one of Groudon's better answers in Zygarde.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

A set utilising Choice Scarf can be used with Trick over Taunt, allowing Tapu Fini to potentially surprise an offensive Pokemon like Marshadow, while also still trapping most of its defensive targets and potentially crippling another by using Trick. Defog can be used over Moonblast to provide extra hazard support if necessary, but it also removes Misty Terrain and makes Tapu Fini far too passive.

Checks and Counters
====

**Strong Offensive Pokemon**: Tapu Fini cannot take many neutral hits in Ubers, and Pokemon like Ooffensive Necrozma-DM, Xerneas, Groudon, (AC) and Kyogre can all overwhelm it fairly easily.

**Zekrom**: Zekrom's Bolt Strike OHKO'es Tapu Fini, it is not OHKOed by Moonblast, and it can even appreciate the tTerrain that Tapu Fini can provide. Zekrom doesn't like its Dragon-type STAB being weakened by Misty Terrain, though.

**Set-Uup Sweepers**: Tapu Fini's poor damage output and sSpeed mean it can be set up on by some of the most dangerous sweepers in Ubers, like Nasty Plot Calyrex-S and Geomancy Xerneas.

**Necrozma-DM**: Necrozma-DM can 3HKO Tapu Fini with Sunsteel Strike after Stealth Rock, preventing it from being trapped by Tapu Fini, although Tapu Fini can trap Iron Head variants very reliably.

**Ho-Oh**: While Ho-Oh dislikes not being able to burn or paralyze its targets, it will take on Tapu Fini fairly reliably, being able to recover off damage taken via thanks to Regenerator and offensively threatening Tapu Fini with Brave Bird. It can even use Defog to remove the tTerrain that Tapu Fini tries to provide its teammates.

**Eternatus**: Eternatus with Sludge Bomb can easily come in on Tapu Fini and prevent it from making progress, threatening a OHKO and recovering off any chip damage taken in the process. Without Sludge Bomb, Eternatus is one of Tapu Fini's targets.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aberforth, 249382]]
- Quality checked by: [[TrueNora, 430286], [username2, userid2]]
- Grammar checked by: [[username1, userid1lotiasite, 302985], [username2, userid2]]

milk tea count: 4 i think

 

[Lasen]

milk tea count: 4 i think

He should pay you back by offering plate presentation classes my guy

 

[DC]

As requested by omicorio

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Fini

[Overview]

Tapu Fini can trap a number of bulky Pokemon in Ubers(examples?), opening up holes for teammates to take advantage of. By virtue of its Fairy typing and Misty Surge, Tapu Fini can reliably check Zygarde and Yveltal, although it doesn't appreciate giving up its item to Yveltal's Knock Off. Misty Surge is highly appreciated by teammates that do not want to be affected by status conditions(examples?) and prevents Zygarde and Xerneas from using Rest. However,(AC) Tapu Fini's poor Speed and damage output mean that it does not have a good matchup against the more dangerous offensive staples of the tier like Calyrex-S, Groudon, and Kyogre. Furthermore, Misty Terrain preventing status from defensively checking opposing setup sweepers limits Tapu Fini's potential teammates.

[SET]
Name: Trapper
move 1: Whirlpool
move 2: Nature's Madness
move 3: Taunt
move 4: Moonblast
item: Leftovers
ability: Misty Surge
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 204 Def / 56 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Whirlpool allows Tapu Fini to trap bulky foes that cannot significantly threaten it such as specially defensive Eternatus, some Necrozma-DM sets, and Ferrothorn without Grass-type coverage,(RC) with only Ghost-types and the rare Shed Shell users avoiding being trapped.(Dont think this is super relevant cuz you are stating the Pokemon that it can trap; this seems awkward and misplaced) Nature's Madness combined with Taunt and the residual damage from Whirlpool lets Tapu Fini KO most defensive Pokemon in Ubers. Moonblast helps Tapu Fini defensively check Zygarde, Yveltal, and Marshadow, although its lack of reliable recovery means it cannot do so consistently throughout a game. The lack of reliable recovery also means it can only normally trap one Pokemon per game, as it will normally take significant damage in the process. 56 Speed EVs guarantee that Tapu Fini will outspeed Calyrex-I and paralyzed Calyrex-S.

Tapu Fini partners best with offensive wallbreakers that appreciate its Misty Surge as well as it being able to trap specific walls and trapping capabilities. Kyogre in particular appreciates Misty Surge both halving Eternatus's damage output with Dynamax Cannon and Draco Meteor and making Toxic fail, allowing Kyogre it to potentially set up on Eternatus. Tapu Fini can also trap Blissey, one of Kyogre's sturdiest defensive answers. Marshadow and offensive Ho-Oh sets enjoy Tapu Fini preventing Zygarde, as well as other defensive Pokemon like Xerneas, Giratina, and Kyogre, from recovering with Rest. Galarian Darmanitan appreciates Tapu Fini potentially trapping Necrozma-DM and not having to fear paralysis. Galarian Darmanitan can also bring Tapu Fini onto the field frequently with U-turn, giving Tapu Fini an easier time trapping its targets. Heatran can be used alongside Tapu Fini to trap a wider range of Pokemon, including all defensive Eternatus sets. Tapu Fini can protect Groudon from status afflictions so it can set up more easily, and Tapu Fini checks one of Groudon's better answers in Zygarde.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
====

A set utilising Choice Scarf can be used set with Trick over Taunt,(RC) allowing allows Tapu Fini to potentially surprise an offensive Pokemon like Marshadow,(RC) while also still trapping letting it trap most of its defensive targets and potentially crippling cripple another by using Trick. Defog can be used over Moonblast to provide extra hazard support control if necessary, but it also removes Misty Terrain and makes Tapu Fini far too passive.

Checks and Counters
====

**Strong Offensive Pokemon**: Tapu Fini cannot take many neutral hits in Ubers, and Pokemon like offensive Necrozma-DM, Xerneas, Groudon, and Kyogre can all overwhelm it fairly easily.

**Zekrom**: Zekrom's Bolt Strike OHKOes Tapu Fini, it is not OHKOed by Moonblast, and it can even appreciates the Terrain that Tapu Fini can provide Misty Terrain. Zekrom doesn't like its Dragon-type STAB being weakened by Misty Terrain, though.

**Setup(one word) Sweepers**: Tapu Fini's poor damage output and Speed mean it can be set up on by some of the most dangerous sweepers in Ubers,(RC) like Nasty Plot Calyrex-S and Geomancy Xerneas.

**Necrozma-DM**: Necrozma-DM can 3HKO Tapu Fini with Sunsteel Strike after Stealth Rock, preventing it from being trapped by Tapu Fini, although Tapu Fini can trap Iron Head variants very reliably.

**Ho-Oh**: While Ho-Oh dislikes not being able to burn or paralyze its targets, it will take on Tapu Fini fairly reliably thanks to Regenerator and Brave Bird. It can even use Defog to remove the Terrain that Tapu Fini tries to provide its teammates Misty Terrain.

**Eternatus**: Sludge Bomb Eternatus with Sludge Bomb can easily come in on Tapu Fini and prevent it from making progress,(RC) by threatening an OHKO and recovering off any chip damage taken in the process. However,(AC) without Sludge Bomb, Eternatus is one of Tapu Fini's targets.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aberforth, 249382]]
- Quality checked by: [[TrueNora, 430286], [FC, 511624]]
- Grammar checked by: [lotiasite, 302985], [username2, userid2]]

GP 2/2. [DC, 449990]