Tentacruel (OU Revamp) [Done]



[OVERVIEW]
As a Water-type, Tentacruel distinguishes itself from its competition thanks to its secondary Poison typing and access to Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. With the former move, Tentacruel can act as a dangerous sweeper due to its good Speed and ability to exploit a lot of passive Pokemon like Forretress, Umbreon, and Blissey as well as other Water-types like Vaporeon and especially the omnipresent Cloyster. As a spinner, Tentacruel has a great matchup against the two best Spikes users in the metagame in Cloyster and Forretress thanks to its Toxic immunity and resistances.

However, Tentacruel's mediocre offensive stats mean that even with a Swords Dance boost, it fails to 2HKO important Pokemon like Snorlax and Zapdos. Additionally, crippling weaknesses to Electric, Psychic, and Ground mean that you cannot rely on Tentacruel to check the likes of Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, and Rhydon, something you would typically want from your Water-type. These factors also mean that Tentacruel is plagued with a large number of checks like Raikou, Gengar, Misdreavus, and Starmie. Starmie is also a huge competitor to Tentacruel as a spinner due to its Speed and secondary Psychic typing, which allows it to better deal with common spinblocker Gengar and check Machamp much more effectively. Furthermore, Tentacruel cannot use Swords Dance and Rapid Spin on one set, forcing the player to choose what they feel will be most beneficial.

[SET]
name: Druidcruel (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Hydro Pump / Surf
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
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Although Tentacruel doesn't look like an offensive threat with such average offensive stats, it's surprisingly one of the most effective Swords Dance users in the metagame, mostly due to the many opportunities it has to set up throughout the match. Substitute makes this task even easier, as it discourages Cloyster and Forretress from using Explosion in front of Tentacruel to trade, prevents Pokemon like Umbreon from using Charm or Growl, and allows Tentacruel to exploit the overuse of Thunder from the likes of Zapdos, Raikou, and Misdreavus due to the move's accuracy. Sludge Bomb is Tentacruel's best physical STAB attack, and the added probability to inflict poison to the opposing Pokemon can prove to be very handy. Hydro Pump is another important STAB attack that deters all of Tyranitar, Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, Rhydon, Golem, and Piloswine while hitting Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus relatively hard. Surf is an alternative that lacks Hydro Pump's low PP and accuracy, but you'll miss the guaranteed 3HKO on Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus and the 2HKO on Tyranitar.

Team Options
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Even though Tentacruel can take advantage of the popularity of Thunder with Substitute, Zapdos and Raikou remain two big annoyances. Hence, Pokemon that can check them like Steelix and Snorlax or bait them in like Exeggutor and Gengar are teammates of choice. Likewise, Gengar and Misdreavus usually pack an Electric move, making the aforementioned Steelix, as well as Pursuit users like Tyranitar, Houndoom, and Umbreon, good partners too; Umbreon also deals nicely with another Tentacruel nemesis in Starmie. Outside of those with a natural typing advantage, Tentacruel's enemies include other bulky Pokemon with the ability to damage it significantly or phaze it such as Snorlax, Skarmory, Miltank, and Roar Suicune. Therefore, Pokemon that can cripple most of these like Zapdos, Misdreavus, and Gengar should be considered. Most of Tentacruel's problems are naturally fast Pokemon; thus, it's a good idea to pair it with paralysis spreaders like Exeggutor and Porygon2, which are suited to lure out most of the above targets. This improves Tentacruel's matchup against these significantly, especially if they rely on Thunder to deal with it, as they will be even less likely to break the Substitute. Finally, Tentacruel not only needs to have its checks crippled or out of the picture if it wants to sweep, it also requires a setup opportunity, namely on Pokemon like Cloyster, non-Acid Armor Vaporeon, non-Roar Suicune, Forretress, and Blissey, something greatly appreciated by the likes of Tyranitar and, once again, Steelix, as they tend to draw in most of these Pokemon for Tentacruel to take advantage of.

[SET]
name: Rapid Spin
move 1: Rapid Spin
move 2: Sludge Bomb / Toxic
move 3: Surf
move 4: Screech / Curse / Protect
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========
Even if it doesn't act as a sweeper that enjoys the popularity of Cloyster and Forretress, Tentacruel remains a big nuisance to these two with this set. They have no way to keep Tentacruel from getting rid of their Spikes with Rapid Spin, and the best they can do against it is trade themselves for it with Explosion after Tentacruel clears the field. Surf reliably hits Ghost-types neutrally and prevents Ground-types like Marowak and Nidoking from taking advantage of Tentacruel. Sludge Bomb, when used in tandem with Screech or Curse, allows Tentacruel to directly threaten the likes of Exeggutor and check non-Acid Armor Vaporeon. Screech tends to be more effective against the likes of Snorlax, as Tentacruel doesn't want to fight a Curse war against it; however, Curse still holds some merits, like boosting Tentacruel's Defense and making it a potential wincon in some scenarios. On the other hand, you can opt for a less offensive approach by using Toxic, which bothers just about any Pokemon that isn't a Steel- or Poison-type itself, including Misdreavus, which will have a harder time spinblocking Tentacruel if poisoned. Protect has some desirable features, especially when coupled with Toxic, like stalling for free Leftovers recovery, punishing a reckless Cloyster or Forretress trying to trade with Explosion, and scouting the opposing Pokemon's moves while burning its PP.

Team Options
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Unlike Starmie, Tentacruel has a hard time against Gengar, which can spinblock it without much trouble; hence, Dark-types like Tyranitar and Umbreon are teammates of choice due to their ability to severely damage Ghost-types with Pursuit. Tentacruel tends to invite dangerous Pokemon like Snorlax, Zapdos, Raikou, and Jolteon in due to its tendency to use Rapid Spin every time it switches in, so Pokemon that can reliably handle them, such as Skarmory, Misdreavus, and Raikou, make for excellent teammates. However, keep in mind that you can cripple all of the aforementioned Pokemon with Toxic. This is something to take into account if you're playing the likes of Nidoking, Zapdos, and Machamp alongside Tentacruel, as they will greatly appreciate having these annoyances poisoned or forced into using Rest.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Mirror Coat can be game changing if you successfully pull it off against Zapdos, Raikou, or Gengar, but it is incompatible with both Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. Giga Drain is an option on the Rapid Spin variant to directly threaten Cloyster. Rest can be considered on the Rapid Spin set if you're looking for increased longevity, but using it will grant the opponent an opportunity to create pressure with Spikes, which it is the entire purpose of Rapid Spin Tentacruel to avoid.

Checks and Counters
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**Electric-types**: Just like almost every Water-type in the metagame, Tentacruel suffers from the popularity of Electric-types like Zapdos, Raikou, and to a lesser extent Jolteon, although their reliance on Thunder to deal with it can bite them if Swords Dance Tentacruel avoids the attack.

**Ghost-types**: Gengar and Misdreavus have a weaker Thunder and aren't as bulky, but they still remain solid answers due to their resistance to Sludge Bomb and immunity to Rapid Spin. However, Misdreavus needs to watch out for Toxic and can fail to take on a Tentacruel that keeps spamming Substitute thanks to its higher Speed and Thunder's poor accuracy.

**Psychic-types**: While not as common, faster Psychic-types like Starmie, Espeon, and Alakazam are big threats to Tentacruel due to their powerful STAB attacks and access to instant recovery. They fear potentially being poisoned by Sludge Bomb or Toxic, however.

**Bulky Pokemon**: Other bulky Pokemon like Snorlax, Miltank, and by a smaller margin Skarmory can interrupt Tentacruel's attempts to sweep. Snorlax is so strong and bulky that Tentacruel will often lose even if Snorlax switches in as it uses Swords Dance, whereas Miltank will not go down quickly and threatens Tentacruel with Body Slam paralysis. Skarmory doesn't care how many Swords Dance boosts Tentacruel has acquired, and it can phaze Tentacruel in exchange for a blow from Tentacruel's Water STAB attack. This is disadvantageous for Skarmory in the long run, but poses difficulties for Tentacruel early on.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Wenderz, 331114]]
- Quality checked by: [[Lavos, 129513], [Earthworm, 15210]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216], [Rabia, 336073]]
 
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You need to explain in the intro that SD and RS are incompatible, otherwise Tentacruel would be an absolute juggernaut in the metagame.

For the SD set, make sure to talk about what Tentacruel really enjoys setting up on (Vaporeon, Suicune, Cloyster, anything that's asleep) and what it has to run from almost all the time. I would definitely mention how the advent of using Thunder on Electrics, particularly Zapdos, is great for Tenta because it allows it to fish for misses and give it time to set up. I would also slash Surf with Hydro Pump, the higher damage output is rarely significant and missing Pump on a 30% Steelix feels real bad.

On the RS set I'd drop Giga Drain, it's almost never going to be useful. My favorite option is Protect, which allows Tentacruel to stall for recovery that it otherwise lacks, scouts your opponent, can blank an Explosion from Cloyster/Forretress trying to trade with you, and will often burn some free Thunder PP from the enemy Zap/Kou. Make sure to emphasize Tenta's niche as a fast spinner (though slower than Starmie) that isn't bothered at all by both Spikers, but has clear drawbacks in being unable to swiftly deal with Gengar and also providing setup fodder for a good portion of the OU meta.

You could put Mirror Coat somewhere in Other Options, it's a cool way to soft check Gengar and the like. Unfortunately it's incompatible with both SD and RS so you have to run Curse or some other garbage...
 

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I'd consider the Surf/Spin/Rest/Toxic set to be the "standard" spin Tenta. Lavos' Protect > Rest idea can also work because of its Toxic immunity.

I do, however, like the Screech + Sludge Bomb set you lay out because it means you can still check ST Vap. However, the slashes should probably be organized better to make sure it's understood that Sludge Bomb only makes sense in tandem with Screech.
 
Thank you both for your comments. I tried to implement evrything you said into the analysis. I think it's ready for QC now.
 

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SD set:
Its pretty much incredibly well written and covered.

Rapid Spin Set:
I disagree with Rest being an option, as it lets pokemon you block(See: Vaporeon, Cloyster) have chances to perform their role better by you having rest on the moveslot because the resting turns are and can be abusable (either by setting up on it in the former's case or spike/explosion for the latter). RS Tenta niche is getting in for free essenctially againt the 2 spikers(because of poison immunity and resists) and rapid spin the spike, eventually either forcing chip on the Ghost or forcing a trade for no spike(for them). The 4th move should be Screech / Curse / Protect. Curse allows it to threaten a non AAVaporeon and force it out, pseudochecking it with the great special defense and resistance to its water stab. Screech performs a similar role(forces vaporeon out) by keeping the 100 speed tier,and annoys last mon lax set up. Protect is a great suggestion, you can not only waste some thunder pp and regain back leftovers (even rack up some poison damage) but also can prevent an explosion trade if tentacruel is active.
 
Implemented the above check. sorry for the wait and thank you for the positive feedbacks!

I've kept Protect as the first move slashed on the Rapid Spin set because it was suggested in previous comments and I think that Protox is the most consistent option on Rapid Spin variants due to the better match-up against Cloyster and Missy. However, if you want me to use your order and reorganize my pargraph, I won't mind it. If that's not the case, may I consider it QC'ed ?
 
Screech and Sludge Bomb are the better options in my opinion (I have also consulted with other Spin Tenta users who agreed). I have no further suggestions aside from changing the order, great job. Once this is changed and the paragraph rearranged I will give this its second QC. Wenderz
 

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[OVERVIEW]

As a Water-type, Tentacruel distinguishes itself from its competition thanks to its secondary Poison typing and movepool which includes Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. With the former move, Tentacruel can act as a pretty dangerous Sweeper sweeper due to its Speed and the fact that it can abuse a lot of passive Pokemon like Forretress, Umbreon, and Blissey as well as other Water-types like Vaporeon and especially the omnipresent Cloyster, (RC) (AP). which This means that Tentacruel won't have an hard time setting-up in a lot of matches. (Broke the really long sentence up into two to help with flow) As a spinner, Tentacruel's Toxic immunity and resistances gives it a great match-up matchup aginst against the two best Spikes users in the metagame: Cloyster and Forretress.

However, Tentacruel suffers from its low offensive stats, as even boosted it fails to 2HKO important Pokemon like Snorlax and Zapdos, (RC) (AP). and Crippling weaknesses to Electric, Psychic and Ground, which means that you cannot rely on Tentacruel to check the likes of Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, and Rhydon, something you would typically want from your Water-type. These factors also mean that Tentacruel is plagued with a large amount of checks like Raikou, Gengar, Misdreavus, Starmie..., (AC) and others. The latter of which also gives huge competition Starmie is a huge competitor to Tentacruel as a spinner due to its Speed and secondary Psychic types typing which allows it to invalidate Gengar as a spinblocker and to check Machamp with much more efficiency. It's also very unfortunate that Tentacruel cannot optimally use Swords Dance and Rapid Spin in one set, forcing the player to choose what he they needs the most feel will be most beneficial.

[SET]

Set 1: Druidcruel (Swords Dance)
Item: Leftovers
Move 1: Swords Dance
Move 2: Substitute
Move 3: Sludge Bomb
Move 4: Hydro Pump / Surf

[SET COMMENTS]

Although Tentacruel doesn't look like an offensive threat with such offensive stats, it's surprisingly one of the most effective Swords Dance users in the metagame, mostly due to the many opportunities it can find has to set up throughout the match. Substitute makes this task even easier, as it discourages Cloyster and Forretress to explode from exploding in front of Tentacruel in order to trade, prevents Pokemon like Umbreon to use from using Charm or Growl, (AC) and allows Tentacruel to abuse the overuse of Thunder from the likes of Zapdos, Raikou, and Misdreavus due to the move's accuracy. Sludge Bomb is Tentacruel's best physical STAB and the added probability to inflict poison to the opposing Pokemon can prove to be very handy. Hydro Pump is another important STAB attack which deters all of Tyranitar, Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, Rhydon, Golem, and Piloswine while hitting Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus relatively hard. Surf is an alternative if Hydro Pump PPs and accuracy rebute rebut you, but you'll miss the guaranteed 3HKO on Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus, (AC) and the 2HKO on Tyranitar.

Even though Tentacruel can take advantage of the popularity of Thunder with Substitute, Zapdos and Raikou remain as two big annoyances. Hence, Electric checks like Steelix and Snorlax and lure (Lure used here sounds off, bait might be a better word if that's an accurate description) like Exeggutor and Gengar are teamates teammates of choice. Likewise, Gengar and Misdreavus usually pack an Electric move, which means that the aforementionned aforementioned Steelix as well as Pursuit users like Tyranitar, Houndoom, and Umbreon make good partners too, the latter of which also deals nicely with another Tentacruel nemesis: Starmie. Outside of those with a natural typing advantage, Tentacruel's ennemies enemies include other bulky Pokemon with the ability to damage it significantly or to phaze it : such as Snorlax, Skarmory, Miltank, and Roar Suicune. are good examples. Therefore, Pokemon that can cripple most of these like Zapdos, Misdreavus, and Gengar should be considered. Most of Tentacruel's problems are naturally fast Pokemon, thus it's a good idea to pair it with paralysis spreaders like Exeggutor and Porygon2 since they're suited to lure out most of the above targets. This changes Tentacruel's match (RS) up against these in a very significantly, especially if the said targets rely on Thunder to deal with it, as they will be even more likely to miss the substitute Substitute. Finally, Tentacruel doesn't only need to have its checks hindered or out of the screen if it wants to sweep, it also asks for a setup opportunity, namely on Pokemon like Cloyster, non-Acid (AH) Armor Vaporeon, non-Roar (AH) Suicune, Forretress, and Blissey, (RS) something greatly appreciated by the likes of Tyranitar and, once again, Steelix.

[SET]

Set 2: Rapid Spin
Item: Leftovers
Move 1: Rapid Spin
Move 2: Sludge Bomb / Toxic
Move 3: Surf
Move 4: Screech / Curse / Protect

[SET COMMENTS]

Even if it doesn't act as a sweeper that enjoys the popularity of Cloyster and Forretress, Tentacruel remains a big nuisance to these two with this set. Indeed, they have no way to keep Tentacruel from getting rid of their Spikes with Rapid Spin, and the best they can do against it is trading with trade Explosion after Tentacruel cleared clears the field. Surf is a reliable STAB that hits Ghost-types (AH) neutrally and prevents Ground-types like Marowak and Nidoking from taking advantage of Tentacruel. Protect has some desirable features, especially when coupled with Toxic, like stalling for free Leftovers recovery, punishing a reckless Cloyster or Forretress trying to trade with Explosion, scouting your opponent's moves, (AC) and burning its PPs. Sludge Bomb, when used in tandem with either Screech or Curse, allows Tentacruel to directly threaten the likes of Exeggutor and to check non-Acid Armor (AH) Vaporeon. Screech tends to be more effective against the likes of Snorlax as Tentacruel doesn't want to fight in a Curse war against it, but Curse still holds some merits, like boosting your Tentacruel's Defense and making Tentacruel it a potential win condition in some scenarios. On the other hand, you can opt for a less offensive approach by using Toxic, which bothers just about any Pokemon that isn't a Steel- (AH) or Poison-type itself, including Misdreavus which will have an harder time spinbolcking Tentacruel if intoxicated poisoned. It is recommended to use it Toxic alongside Protect in order to wear down the opposing Pokemon more easily, as well as stalling for free Leftovers recovery, punishing a reckless Cloyster or Forretress trying to trade with Explosion, and scouting your opponent's moves while burning its PPs. (I would remove this entire sentence because it's basically saying the same thing that you already stated earlier in this paragraph. I added the Toxic part to the earlier sentence so it would eliminate the need for this last sentence entirely)

Unlike Starmie, Tentacruel has an hard time against Gengar which can spinblock it without much trouble, hence Dark-types like Tyranitar, Umbreon, and Houndoom are teaamates being teammates of choice due to their ability to severly severely damage Ghost-types with Pursuit. Misdreavus and Gengar also make good partners though, since they allow you to play around Explosions from Closyter Cloyster and Forretress Explosion, just like Steel- (AH) and Rock-types (AH) but without nearly as much reliability against the former. Even if they cannot prevent Tentacruel from doing its job, Zapdos, Raikou, Starmie, Snorlax, Jolteon, and everything that can hit Tentacruel hard without taking much back remain a problem, which means that checks to most of these Pokemon like Steelix, Snorlax, (AC) and Umbreon can be considered when building with this Tentacruel. However, keep in mind that you can cripple all of the aforementionned aforementioned Pokemon with Toxic. This is something to take in account if you're playing the likes of Nidoking, Zapdos, or Machamp alongside Tentacruel, as they will greatly appreciate having these annoyances intoxicated poisoned or asleep after using Rest.

[Other Options]

Mirror Coat can be game changing if you successfully pull it off against Zapdos, Raikou, (AC) or Gengar, but it is incompatible with both Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. Giga Drain is an option on the Rapid Spin variant to directly damage Cloyster. Rest can be considered on the Rapid Spin set if your you're looking for an increased longevity, but a lot of Pokemon can befenit benefit from having Tentacruel asleep, including the likes of Cloyster and Vaporeon, which are supposed to be kept in check by Tentacruel.

[Checks & Counters]

Just like almost every Water-type in the metagame, Tentacruel suffers from the popularity of Electric-types like Zapdos, Raikou, and to a lesser extent Jolteon, although their reliance on Thunder to deal with it can bite them if they keep missing a Swords Dance Tentacruel avoids the attack. Gengar and Misdreavus doesn't don't hit Tentacruel as hard with Thunder and aren't as bulky, but still remain solid answers due to their resistance to Sludge Bomb and immunity to Rapid Spin. However, the second one Misdreavus needs to watch out for Toxic and can fail to deter a Tentacruel that keeps spamming Substitute thanks its higher Speed. While not as common, faster Psychic-types like Starmie, Espeon, and Alakazam are big troubles for threats to Tentacruel due to their powerful STAB and access to instant recovery. Other bulky Pokemon like Snorlax, Miltank, and by a smaller margin Skarmory, (AC) can interrupt Tentacruel's attempts to sweep. The former can also freely set up in front of any Tentacruel lacking Swords Dance or Screech as long as it packs Rest, just like Vaporeon and Curse Heracross.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

As a Water-type, Tentacruel distinguishes itself from its competition thanks to its secondary Poison typing and movepool which includes access to Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. With the former move, Tentacruel can act as a pretty dangerous sweeper due to its good Speed and the fact that it can abuse ability to exploit a lot of passive Pokemon like Forretress, Umbreon, and Blissey as well as other Water-types like Vaporeon and especially the omnipresent Cloyster. This means that Tentacruel won't have a hard time setting up (RH) in a lot of matches. As a spinner, Tentacruel's Toxic immunity and resistances gives it has a great matchup against the two best Spikes users in the metagame: in Cloyster and Forretress thanks to its Toxic immunity and resistances.

However, Tentacruel suffers from its low offensive stats, as even boosted it fails to 2HKO important Pokemon like Snorlax and Zapdos. Crippling weaknesses to Electric, Psychic, (AC) and Ground means mean that you cannot rely on Tentacruel to check the likes of Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, and Rhydon, something you would typically want from your Water-type. These factors also mean that Tentacruel is plagued with a large amount number of checks like Raikou, Gengar, Misdreavus, and Starmie, and others. Starmie also is a huge competitor to Tentacruel as a spinner due to its Speed and secondary Psychic typing, (AC) which allows it to invalidate Gengar as a spinblocker and to check Machamp with much more efficiency. Furthermore, Tentacruel cannot optimally (literally illegal, not a matter of moveslots) use Swords Dance and Rapid Spin in on one set, forcing the player to choose what they feel will be most beneficial.

[SET]
Set 1 name: Druidcruel (Swords Dance)
Item: Leftovers
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Hydro Pump / Surf
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]

Although Tentacruel doesn't look like an offensive threat with such offensive stats, it's surprisingly one of the most effective Swords Dance users in the metagame, mostly due to the many opportunities it has to set up throughout the match. Substitute makes this task even easier, as it discourages Cloyster and Forretress from exploding using Explosion in front of Tentacruel in order to trade, prevents Pokemon like Umbreon from using Charm or Growl, and allows Tentacruel to abuse exploit the overuse of Thunder from the likes of Zapdos, Raikou, and Misdreavus due to the move's accuracy. Sludge Bomb is Tentacruel's best physical STAB attack, (AC) and the added probability to inflict poison to the opposing Pokemon can prove to be very handy. Hydro Pump is another important STAB attack which that deters all of Tyranitar, Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, Rhydon, Golem, and Piloswine while hitting Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus relatively hard. Surf is an alternative if that lacks Hydro Pump's PPs poor PP and accuracy rebut you, but you'll miss the guaranteed 3HKO on Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus (RC) and the 2HKO on Tyranitar.

Even though Tentacruel can take advantage of the popularity of Thunder with Substitute, Zapdos and Raikou remain as two big annoyances. Hence, Electric checks Pokemon that can check them like Steelix and Snorlax and baits or bait them in like Exeggutor and Gengar are teammates of choice. Likewise, Gengar and Misdreavus usually pack an Electric move, which means that making the aforementioned Steelix, as well as Pursuit users like Tyranitar, Houndoom, and Umbreon, make good partners too; (SC) the latter of which Umbreon also deals nicely with another Tentacruel nemesis: in Starmie. Outside of those with a natural typing advantage, Tentacruel's enemies include other bulky Pokemon with the ability to damage it significantly or to phaze it such as Snorlax, Skarmory, Miltank, and Roar Suicune. Therefore, Pokemon that can cripple most of these like Zapdos, Misdreavus, and Gengar should be considered. Most of Tentacruel's problems are naturally fast Pokemon; (SC) thus, (AC) it's a good idea to pair it with paralysis spreaders like Exeggutor and Porygon2, (AC) since they're which are suited to lure out most of the above targets. This changes improves Tentacruel's matchup against these very significantly, especially if the said targets they rely on Thunder to deal with it, as they will be even more likely to miss the Substitute. Finally, Tentacruel doesn't only need not only needs to have its checks hindered crippled or out of the screen picture if it wants to sweep; (SC) it also asks for requires a setup opportunity, namely on Pokemon like Cloyster, non-Acid Armor Vaporeon, non-Roar Suicune, Forretress, and Blissey, something greatly appreciated by the likes of Tyranitar and, once again, Steelix. (i'm not following this, tentacruel is the one that benefits from setting up)

[SET]
Set 2 name: Rapid Spin
Item: Leftovers
move 1: Rapid Spin
move 2: Sludge Bomb / Toxic
move 3: Surf
move 4: Screech / Curse / Protect
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Even if it doesn't act as a sweeper that enjoys the popularity of Cloyster and Forretress, Tentacruel remains a big nuisance to these two with this set. (borderline cross-set reference tbh, optimally this is merged into the next sentence) Indeed, They have no way to keep Tentacruel from getting rid of their Spikes with Rapid Spin, and the best they can do against it is trade themselves for it with Explosion after Tentacruel clears the field. Surf is a reliable STAB that reliably hits Ghost-types neutrally and prevents Ground-types like Marowak and Nidoking from taking advantage of Tentacruel. Protect has some desirable features, especially when coupled with Toxic, like stalling for free Leftovers recovery, punishing a reckless Cloyster or Forretress trying to trade with Explosion, scouting your opponent's the opposing Pokemon's moves, and burning its PPs PP. Sludge Bomb, when used in tandem with either Screech or Curse, allows Tentacruel to directly threaten the likes of Exeggutor and to check non-Acid Armor Vaporeon. Screech tends to be more effective against the likes of Snorlax, (AC) as Tentacruel doesn't want to fight in a Curse war against it; (SC) but however, Curse still holds some merits, like boosting Tentacruel's Defense and making it a potential win condition wincon in some scenarios. On the other hand, you can opt for a less offensive approach by using Toxic, which bothers just about any Pokemon that isn't a Steel- or Poison-type itself, including Misdreavus, (AC) which will have a harder time spinbolcking spinblocking Tentacruel if poisoned.

Unlike Starmie, Tentacruel has a hard time against Gengar, (AC) which can spinblock it without much trouble; (SC) hence, (AC) Dark-types like Tyranitar, Umbreon, and Houndoom being are teammates of choice due to their ability to severely damage Ghost-types with Pursuit. Misdreavus and Gengar also make good partners, (AC) though, since they allow you to play around Cloyster and Forretress's Explosion; (SC) just like Steel- and Rock-types can do the same, but without they don't have nearly as much reliability against the former. Even if they cannot prevent Tentacruel from doing its job, Zapdos, Raikou, Starmie, Snorlax, Jolteon, and everything other foes that can hit Tentacruel hard without taking much back remain a problem, which means that checks to most of these Pokemon like Steelix, Snorlax, and Umbreon can be considered when building with this Tentacruel. However, keep in mind that you can cripple all of the aforementioned Pokemon with Toxic. This is something to take into account if you're playing the likes of Nidoking, Zapdos, or and Machamp alongside Tentacruel, as they will greatly appreciate having these annoyances poisoned or asleep after forced into using Rest.

[Other Options]

Mirror Coat can be game changing if you successfully pull it off against Zapdos, Raikou, or Gengar, but it is incompatible with both Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. Giga Drain is an option on the Rapid Spin variant to directly damage Cloyster. Rest can be considered on the Rapid Spin set if you're looking for an increased longevity, but a lot of Pokemon can benefit from having Tentacruel asleep, including the likes of Cloyster and Vaporeon, which are Tentacruel is supposed to be kept keep in check by Tentacruel.

[Checks & Counters]

Just like almost every Water-type in the metagame, Tentacruel suffers from the popularity of Electric-types like Zapdos, Raikou, and to a lesser extent Jolteon, although their reliance on Thunder to deal with it can bite them if Swords Dance Tentacruel avoids the attack. Gengar and Misdreavus don't hit Tentacruel as hard with have a weaker Thunder and aren't as bulky, but they still remain solid answers due to their resistance to Sludge Bomb and immunity to Rapid Spin. However, Misdreavus needs to watch out for Toxic and can fail to deter take on a Tentacruel that keeps spamming Substitute thanks its higher Speed. While not as common, faster Psychic-types like Starmie, Espeon, and Alakazam are big threats to Tentacruel due to their powerful STAB attacks and access to instant recovery. Other bulky Pokemon like Snorlax, Miltank, and by a smaller margin Skarmory (RC) can interrupt Tentacruel's attempts to sweep. The former can also freely set up in front of any Tentacruel lacking Swords Dance or Screech as long as it packs Rest, just like Vaporeon and Curse Heracross.
 

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[OVERVIEW]

As a Water-type, Tentacruel distinguishes itself from its competition thanks to its secondary Poison typing and access to Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. With the former move, Tentacruel can act as a pretty dangerous sweeper due to its good Speed and ability to exploit a lot of passive Pokemon like Forretress, Umbreon, and Blissey as well as other Water-types like Vaporeon and especially the omnipresent Cloyster. This means that Tentacruel won't have a hard time setting up in a lot of matches. As a spinner, Tentacruel has a great matchup against the two best Spikes users in the metagame in Cloyster and Forretress thanks to its Toxic immunity and resistances.

However, Tentacruel suffers from its low offensive stats, as even boosted it fails to 2HKO important Pokemon like Snorlax and Zapdos. Crippling weaknesses to Electric, Psychic, and Ground mean that you cannot rely on Tentacruel to check the likes of Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, and Rhydon, something you would typically want from your Water-type. These factors also mean that Tentacruel is plagued with a large number of checks like Raikou, Gengar, Misdreavus, and Starmie. Starmie also is also a huge competitor to Tentacruel as a spinner due to its Speed and secondary Psychic typing, which allows it to invalidate Gengar as a spinblocker and to check Machamp with much more efficiency. Furthermore, Tentacruel cannot use Swords Dance and Rapid Spin on one set, forcing the player to choose what they feel will be most beneficial.

[SET]
name: Druidcruel (Swords Dance)
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Sludge Bomb
move 4: Hydro Pump / Surf
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========

Although Tentacruel doesn't look like an offensive threat with such average (or whatever adjective fits) offensive stats, it's surprisingly one of the most effective Swords Dance users in the metagame, mostly due to the many opportunities it has to set up throughout the match. Substitute makes this task even easier, as it discourages Cloyster and Forretress from using Explosion in front of Tentacruel in order to trade, prevents Pokemon like Umbreon from using Charm or Growl, and allows Tentacruel to exploit the overuse of Thunder from the likes of Zapdos, Raikou, and Misdreavus due to the move's accuracy. Sludge Bomb is Tentacruel's best physical STAB attack, and the added probability to inflict poison to the opposing Pokemon can prove to be very handy. Hydro Pump is another important STAB attack that deters all of Tyranitar, Steelix, Marowak, Nidoking, Rhydon, Golem, and Piloswine while hitting Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus relatively hard. Surf is an alternative that lacks Hydro Pump's poor PP and accuracy, but you'll miss the guaranteed 3HKO on Skarmory, Gengar, and Misdreavus and the 2HKO on Tyranitar.

Team Options
========

Even though Tentacruel can take advantage of the popularity of Thunder with Substitute, Zapdos and Raikou remain two big annoyances. Hence, Pokemon that can check them like Steelix and Snorlax or bait them in like Exeggutor and Gengar are teammates of choice. Likewise, Gengar and Misdreavus usually pack an Electric move, making the aforementioned Steelix, as well as Pursuit users like Tyranitar, Houndoom, and Umbreon, good partners too; Umbreon also deals nicely with another Tentacruel nemesis in Starmie. Outside of those with a natural typing advantage, Tentacruel's enemies include other bulky Pokemon with the ability to damage it significantly or phaze it such as Snorlax, Skarmory, Miltank, and Roar Suicune. Therefore, Pokemon that can cripple most of these like Zapdos, Misdreavus, and Gengar should be considered. Most of Tentacruel's problems are naturally fast Pokemon; thus, it's a good idea to pair it with paralysis spreaders like Exeggutor and Porygon2, which are suited to lure out most of the above targets. This improves Tentacruel's matchup against these significantly, especially if they rely on Thunder to deal with it, as they will be even more likely to miss the Substitute. Finally, Tentacruel not only needs to have its checks crippled or out of the picture if it wants to sweep; it also requires a setup opportunity, namely on Pokemon like Cloyster, non-Acid Armor Vaporeon, non-Roar Suicune, Forretress, and Blissey, something greatly appreciated by the likes of Tyranitar and, once again, Steelix, as they tend to lure draw in most of these Pokemon for Tentacruel to take advantage of.

[SET]
name: Rapid Spin
move 1: Rapid Spin
move 2: Sludge Bomb / Toxic
move 3: Surf
move 4: Screech / Curse / Protect
item: Leftovers

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
=========

Even if it doesn't act as a sweeper that enjoys the popularity of Cloyster and Forretress, Tentacruel remains a big nuisance to these two with this set. They have no way to keep Tentacruel from getting rid of their Spikes with Rapid Spin, and the best they can do against it is trade themselves for it with Explosion after Tentacruel clears the field. Surf reliably hits Ghost-types neutrally and prevents Ground-types like Marowak and Nidoking from taking advantage of Tentacruel. Protect has some desirable features, especially when coupled with Toxic, like stalling for free Leftovers recovery, punishing a reckless Cloyster or Forretress trying to trade with Explosion, scouting the opposing Pokemon's moves, and burning its PP. Sludge Bomb, when used in tandem with either Screech or Curse, allows Tentacruel to directly threaten the likes of Exeggutor and to check non-Acid Armor Vaporeon. Screech tends to be more effective against the likes of Snorlax, as Tentacruel doesn't want to fight a Curse war against it; however, Curse still holds some merits, like boosting Tentacruel's Defense and making it a potential wincon in some scenarios. On the other hand, you can opt for a less offensive approach by using Toxic, which bothers just about any Pokemon that isn't a Steel- or Poison-type itself, including Misdreavus, which will have a harder time spinblocking Tentacruel if poisoned.

Team Options
========

Unlike Starmie, Tentacruel has a hard time against Gengar, which can spinblock it without much trouble; hence, Dark-types like Tyranitar, Umbreon, and Houndoom are teammates of choice due to their ability to severely damage Ghost-types with Pursuit. Misdreavus and Gengar also make good partners, though, since they allow you to play around Cloyster and Forretress's Explosion; Steel- and Rock-types can do the same, but not with nearly as much reliability against the former. Even if they cannot prevent Tentacruel from doing its job, Zapdos, Raikou, Starmie, Snorlax, Jolteon, and other foes that can hit Tentacruel it hard without taking much back remain a problem, which means that checks to most of these Pokemon like Steelix, Snorlax, and Umbreon can be considered. However, keep in mind that you can cripple all of the aforementioned Pokemon with Toxic. This is something to take into account if you're playing the likes of Nidoking, Zapdos, and Machamp alongside Tentacruel, as they will greatly appreciate having these annoyances poisoned or forced into using Rest.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
============

Mirror Coat can be game changing if you successfully pull it off against Zapdos, Raikou, or Gengar, but it is incompatible with both Swords Dance and Rapid Spin. Giga Drain is an option on the Rapid Spin variant to directly damage threaten Cloyster. Rest can be considered on the Rapid Spin set if you're looking for increased longevity, but a lot of Pokemon can benefit from having Tentacruel asleep, including the likes of Cloyster and Vaporeon, which Tentacruel is supposed to keep in check.

Checks & Counters
==================

Just like almost every Water-type in the metagame, Tentacruel suffers from the popularity of Electric-types like Zapdos, Raikou, and to a lesser extent Jolteon, although their reliance on Thunder to deal with it can bite them if Swords Dance Tentacruel avoids the attack. Gengar and Misdreavus have a weaker Thunder and aren't as bulky, but they still remain solid answers due to their resistance to Sludge Bomb and immunity to Rapid Spin. However, Misdreavus needs to watch out for Toxic and can fail to take on a Tentacruel that keeps spamming Substitute thanks to its higher Speed. While not as common, faster Psychic-types like Starmie, Espeon, and Alakazam are big threats to Tentacruel due to their powerful STAB attacks and access to instant recovery. Other bulky Pokemon like Snorlax, Miltank, and by a smaller margin Skarmory can interrupt Tentacruel's attempts to sweep. The former can also freely set up in front of any Tentacruel lacking Swords Dance or Screech as long as it packs Rest, just like Vaporeon and Curse Heracross.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Wenderz, 331114]]
- Quality checked by: [[Lavos, 129513], [Earthworm, 15210]]
- Grammar checked by: [[The Dutch Plumberjack, 232216 ], [, ]]

gp 2/2 once done
 
Implemented. Thank you.

Also re-ordered the second set first paragraph so the order matches with the move listed, I lied the first time I said I would do it since I somehow forgot to fix this the first time around... Sorry about this.

Anyway, my last GSC analysis on forum is ready for upload Excal Earthworm
 

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