NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

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We got him
 
Well I'm going to sleep either way, so I don't think I'll have much to say that will change the course of the vote, HydrogenHydreigon already has all the info I have so I think my death doesn't matter much either way.
I assume my effects persist after my death at least if it's guarantee the 50/50 for y'all I'm not dying in vain
 
Once again, with sheer confidence, the town groups together and singles out a single person. They were on the right track, and another one was soon to come... right?

FINAL VOTECOUNT, DAY 4

AirC (5): Evie, HydrogenHydreigon, Alice Kazumi, Miyami, Dead by Daylight

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AirC has been executed!


Trapper (Town Protective)
Powerful Attack / No Defense

Abilities:
  • You may pick one of the following abilities
  • Set Trap: You may set up a Trap at another player's house, but it will take all night.
  • Disarm Trap: You may disarm a Trap you have already set

Attributes:
  • Your trap isn’t active until the following day
  • Disarming a trap does not count as a visit to your initial target
  • You may only have one Trap out at a time.
  • If your target is attacked, your Trap will deal a Powerful Attack to one attacker visiting them (including Vigilantes) and will grant your target Powerful Defense against one Attack.
Goal: Eliminate every criminal and evildoer.

We could not find a last will.

It is now Night 4,
the night will last 24 hours. You may send your night actions as well as your Last Will to me before this deadline goes in effect.

Whispers are DISABLED until Daytime. Talking in this chat is DISABLED until Daytime.

Deadline is Friday the 16th at 11PM GMT-4.
I'd appreciate if I could receive results 15 minutes before deadline, so I get a buffer to get resolution out.
 
With a heavy heart, many of the townsfolk return to the center of town once morning hits. How could you have voted for one of your own? As guilt overtakes the members of the town, heartbreak does not dissipate, it increases as you find another one of your own, deceased.

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ElectricityCat died last night

They were killed by a member of the Mafia.

Transporter (Town Support)
No Attack / No Defense

Abilities:
  • Transport: Choose two people to transport at night.

Attributes:
  • Transporting two people swaps all targets against them.
  • You may transport yourself.
  • Your targets will know they were transported.
  • You cannot be roleblocked or controlled.
  • Your action does not count as a “visit”
  • Select two people following your action, separated by a comma
Goal: Eliminate every criminal and evildoer.

We found a last will next to their body!
N1: I transported HydrogenHydreigon and Roxie and I ate popcorn while watching all the confusion I caused.
D2: Near deadline I decided to share my role via whispering with Des and dividing the list in two to avoid interefence.
N2: I transported Alice Kazumi and Miyami
N3 I transported Celever and HydrogenHydreigon. Detective DBD has almost solved the case.
N3 I transported myself and Detective DBD, he is too close to solve the case so I need to keep him safe

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It is now Day 5, this day will last 48 hours, voting is enabled. You may begin discussing.

Whispers are now enabled, Hammer requires 6 votets.

Deadline is Sunday the 18th at 11pm GMT-4.
 
Alright, well airc's flip changes everything and I think it's time for me to put my cards on the table now

*vote: Joey

I'm psychic. My most recent result was "at least one of <des121, joey, and hydrogenhydreigon> are not town". Des is dead and flipped and hyhy is at the very least not mafia, so Joey is essentially dead to rights here.

If Joey does flip town - Hyhy is confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt to be our witch/scarecrow, and Alice was lying about her results, indicating she's likely the janitor and should go immediately after.

If Joey is the remaining third party - Hyhy is confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt to be town and thus people like alice/celever worrying about it earlier in thread can be at peace if they're town

If Joey is mafia - HyHy is very likely, though not confirmed, town, leaving us largely in the same position as before, but with one less mafia left and some buddies to track down (alice maybe?)

That being said, no matter which setup we're in at least one of Evie, Alice, DBD, and Hyhy cannot be town with everyone else's confirmed roles, plus mine:

If we assume everyone in the knot + the transporters are telling the truth, our town would look like this:

Town Investigative (Me, Psychic)
Town Protective (Roxie?)
Town Support (Des/Ecat, transporter)
Random Town (Des/Ecat, transporter)
Random Town (DBD/Alice/HyHy, claimed investigative)
Random Town (DBD/Alice/HyHy, claimed investigative)
Trapper (AirC)
Archer (?)
Random Town (DBD/Alice/HyHy, claimed investigator, or Evie, claimed transporter)

And our not town would look like this:

Mafia Ambusher (?)
Mafia Deception (Aura Guardian, Hypnotist)
Mafia Support (?)
Random Mafia (our unknown Janitor)

Serial Killer (A Fairy)
Scarecrow (?)

it's impossible for all of DBD, Alice, HyHy, and Evie to be town with their claimed roles since there literally is not enough space, and everyone else here (Celever, Jalmont, Joey, Lechen) would have to be not town with the exception of one of those four + one of the knot and evie being the archer)
I think it's extremely unlikely we're in this setup but here's what our town would have to look like

Town Investigative (Me, Psychic)
Town Protective (Roxie?)
Town Support (Des/Ecat, Transporter + Evie, Claimed Transporter)
Random Town (Des/Ecat, Transporter + Evie, Claimed Transporter)
Random Town (AirC, Trapper)
Random Town (DBD/Alice/HyHy, claimed investigative)
Transporter (Des/Ecat, Transporter + Evie, Claimed Transporter)
Town Investigative (DBD/Alice/HyHy, claimed investigative)

Mafia Killing (?)
Mafia Support (?)
Mafia Deception (Aura Guardian, Hypnotist)
Mafia Deception (Unknown Janitor)

Neutral Killing (A Fairy)
Witch (?)

this would leave us in a position where two of DBD, Alice, Hyhy, and Evie are directly not town, as there isn't even an unknown town role in this setup that could hold one of these claims. Once again celever jalmont joey and lechen would also all have to be not town as well

in short, I know hyhy wants to just handle it but I have a bad feeling in my stomach and voting joey would be our best option today, imo.
 
at least one of <des121, joey, and hydrogenhydreigon> are not town
This just happens to be the perfect vision that would unequivocally make me an evil, pairing me with 2 confirmed towns. This approach isn't genuine at all, everyone knows for days that hydro is confirmed town and it's kind of a classic strategy to dance around that point to make people "realize" that themselves.

If mafia gets a mislynch today, as far as I can tell, the game is over. I'll wait to see what hydro comes up with here
 
funnily enough i was just messaging alice/evie about voting joey
due to miyami's claim yes but also because tonight joey supposedly targeted a player that was trapped by airc (yes, traps remain even after the trapper dies). strangely enough he did not die
 
funnily enough i was just messaging alice/evie about voting joey
due to miyami's claim yes but also because tonight joey supposedly targeted a player that was trapped by airc (yes, traps remain even after the trapper dies). strangely enough he did not die
A trap only kills attackers, regular visitors break the trap and notify the trapper but do not die
 
On the morning of day 4 (when Miyami would've claimed this vision to Hydro) there were only 2 confirmed townies that could've been in the vision (Des/hydro). Assuming the rng picks one evil to go in the vision first, the chance of those two conftowns being in the vision with the evil is 2/11*1/10 = .018 or 1 in 55

Which of course is not impossible odds but would be a huge coincidence
 
On the morning of day 4 (when Miyami would've claimed this vision to Hydro) there were only 2 confirmed townies that could've been in the vision (Des/hydro). Assuming the rng picks one evil to go in the vision first, the chance of those two conftowns being in the vision with the evil is 2/11*1/10 = .018 or 1 in 55

Which of course is not impossible odds but would be a huge coincidence
my day 1 vision also included roxie, so it seems to be in the queue above the actual killing somehow. Des would not have been "confirmed town" at the time.

And if I was making this up, why would I pick you, someone who I've never once expressed any sort of suspicion on the whole game, over someone like Evie or Celever who I have? What would I gain by picking you at essentially random?
 
my day 1 vision also included roxie, so it seems to be in the queue above the actual killing somehow. Des would not have been "confirmed town" at the time.
You did not have to make the vision until day 4 when you had to claim it, so by that time you would know Des was town because she was dead


And if I was making this up, why would I pick you, someone who I've never once expressed any sort of suspicion on the whole game, over someone like Evie or Celever who I have? What would I gain by picking you at essentially random?
I don't have a good answer for this one, I'm not core town so I don't really have the information available to figure it out. You just have to lynch one townie so I imagine you guys discussed who was the most realistic target with the information you had and came up with my name
 
You did not have to make the vision until day 4 when you had to claim it, so by that time you would know Des was town because she was dead
If I were actually lying to push an agenda why would I just let hyhy completely ignore it and go after jalmont then airc? I would have had to claim it a day ago, after all. What benefit would I have for coming up with something so incriminating, only to wait a day and potentially let hyhy get enough information to find a hypothetical partner? You're directly insinuating I'm mafia in this post.

I don't have a good answer for this one, I'm not core town so I don't really have the information available to figure it out. You just have to lynch one townie so I imagine you guys discussed who was the most realistic target with the information you had and came up with my name
I am not core town either, in that I'm not part of the knot. The only role intel I had given to hyhy besides my targets directly led to the aura guardian wagon. Why would I lie in such a way that directly led to a teammate getting killed if I were mafia?
 
The only role intel I had given to hyhy besides my targets directly led to the aura guardian wagon. Why would I lie in such a way that directly led to a teammate getting killed if I were mafia?
The AG wagon was mechanically evil without your evidence from hyhy's result - you would have had to make a quick decision between telling the truth or protecting your maf buddy, and evaluating the risk of exposing 1 maf vs exposing 2 maf it makes sense that you would choose to tell the truth and indirectly bus AG.


why would I just let hyhy completely ignore it and go after jalmont then airc? I would have had to claim it a day ago, after all. What benefit would I have for coming up with something so incriminating, only to wait a day and potentially let hyhy get enough information to find a hypothetical partner?
Hydro is making a decision based on all the information he has available (town leader meta sucks btw but here we are). To him your claim is unverified and doesn't mean all that much. He chose the route that he thought was the best from all the information he was given (though admittedly the result of voting out the trapper is questionable lol)


You're directly insinuating I'm mafia in this post.
I know you are evil because I know I'm not, therefore your vision can't be true. Not so much insinuating, I'm drawing a logical conclusion in which all the facts that I know to be true check out.
 
I quite literally suggested an alternate solution where you are town in my vote post even if I don't believe it. I'm just drawing a logical conclusion in which all the facts that I know to be true check out.

Hydro is making a decision based on all the information he has available (town leader meta sucks btw but here we are). To him your claim is unverified and doesn't mean all that much. He chose the route that he thought was the best from all the information he was given (though admittedly the result of voting out the trapper is questionable lol)
why would I not take a perfect opportunity to claim yesterday and sow dissent against hyhy, when today I even posited the option that hyhy was our neutral evil? Would that not be better than just relinquishing all power and running the risk of hyhy just figuring out another mafia partner? As you said, my claim is unverified and I wouldn't gain any town cred from just going along with everyone else
 
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