NOC Twin Trap Mafia Town win

Clarinet said:
also if the goons are watcher and tracker - immune, how are these 2 PRs valuable for town? They are basically 2 innocent children that cannot give us anything
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No they each effect one specific member of the mafia team, each mafia member is tracker or watcher immune, not both.

Does this derp clear clarinet actually?
 
Duskfall98 said:
No they each effect one specific member of the mafia team, each mafia member is tracker or watcher immune, not both.

Does this derp clear clarinet actually?
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I don't think so, there's enough reasonable doubt within his statement about the utility of tracking individual members and getting false positives that his question is reasonable as either alignment.
 
Clarinet said:
also if the goons are watcher and tracker - immune, how are these 2 PRs valuable for town? They are basically 2 innocent children that cannot give us anything
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That being said, if the tracker successfully tracks the 1/8 and the person they visit dies then that's a probable guilty unless the watcher is also watching in which case they clear each other with a guaranteed mafia among the three of them.

That said it's likely mafia will kill with the tracker immune so the tracker should be laying low until we can find that particular mafia.
 
Texas Cloverleaf said:
I don't think so, there's enough reasonable doubt within his statement about the utility of tracking individual members and getting false positives that his question is reasonable as either alignment.
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Yeah ok that does make sense. While we are on the whole case of set up discussion I feel like the prs aren't that helpful. The odds of hitting the exact right scum on the exact right turn that they are the one nightkilling is very unlikely. They get a lot more useful after one scum flip though probably? One of them becomes a cop when first scum flips essentially.

The claims at lylo will be very important too if we can maintain them.
 
bluedoom said:
duskfall,why did you think that clarinet's statement was alignment indicative?
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The fact he didn't know how the scum works he thought they were bought track/watch immune to me. If he rolled mafia he's a lot more likely to understand the set up and his own role so it's a potential derp clear. However, it of course fakeable so I'm not saying he's definite town. (Or maybe he just genuinely doesnt understand the set up as scum I guess?) The question is more likley to come from town though I think.
 
Duskfall98 said:
The fact he didn't know how the scum works he thought they were bought track/watch immune to me. If he rolled mafia he's a lot more likely to understand the set up and his own role so it's a potential derp clear. However, it of course fakeable so I'm not saying he's definite town. (Or maybe he just genuinely doesnt understand the set up as scum I guess?) The question is more likley to come from town though I think.
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I was about to accept derpclears, but it feels like a cheap clearing, so no. Just take it as NAI, I've never seen this setup before
 
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