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NOC Twin Trap Mafia Town win

bleh I think marth is town and dusk is a scumlean but apart from that nothing's really happened. Smogon Account has a better look after they took the effort to respond to me and toni is just like, whatever he is. IDK how I feel hitting a lurker
 
bluedoom said:
gonna have to ask you why dusk is different from smogon account wrt townreads. their play was similar except dusk tried to clear people based off of mechanics and faulty reasoning.

the hedging on the clarinet read looks bad because a wolf can easily back off from a derp clear because well,derp clears are faulty. Wolves want to just appear proactive and solvey so its kinda off to try to derp clear someone over something trivial and then just not be as decisive a few posts later. wrt him not following up on his questions well I assumed that he was reaching to some conclusions but his line of questioning never went anywhere which looks sketchy if you're town trying to solve the game
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Answer to this: if you had said you had a serious reason I would've followed up but what's the point in trying to solve you off something you claimed is random? It's nai so idc
 
bluedoom said:
toni is null but if we lynch him and he's not maf we're back to square one with a number less
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This is roughly true of anyone else who's a reasonable lynch. I think everyone else in this game will be readable at some point once we have enough to go on whereas Toni never will be because he has a long history of not posting. The longer we push off his lynch the harder it's going to be to lynch the scum if he's town because his vote won't be able to be relied on as a number. This situation directly contributed to the last two town loss games on the site.
 
Duskfall98 said:
No you are choosing to interact with people, you are ignoring any town reads there is a difference.



It means what it says? Is gamesolving pro-town stop dodging the question please.
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Recap:

I said Duskfall has a bad look.

Duskfall asks if I think gamesolving is pro-town.

I said Duskfall's line of logic is not gamesolving.

DuskFall: "I'm not talking about mine, I'm talking about Marth's"


Again, what the fuck does this mean? You never said anything about anyone, what about marth are you talking about? And now you go "It means what it says, don't dodge the question, is gamesolving pro-town." You're not making any sense. If you're asking me if gamesolving is protown, what does marth got to do with anything? You're gonna have you rephrase your entire line of questioning to me from "Is gamesolving protown" because you're tripping over so much I can't make heads or tails of anything you're saying.
 
This is likely to be the last time I'm on before deadline by the way, just as a heads up.

Wouldn't town toni (towni haha) just sheep the towniest looking player, like what he's doing now? It's not like he literally flakes the whole game right?
 
XnadrojX said:
Recap:

I said Duskfall has a bad look.

Duskfall asks if I think gamesolving is pro-town.

I said Duskfall's line of logic is not gamesolving.

DuskFall: "I'm not talking about mine, I'm talking about Marth's"


Again, what the fuck does this mean? You never said anything about anyone, what about marth are you talking about? And now you go "It means what it says, don't dodge the question, is gamesolving pro-town." You're not making any sense. If you're asking me if gamesolving is protown, what does marth got to do with anything? You're gonna have you rephrase your entire line of questioning to me from "Is gamesolving protown" because you're tripping over so much I can't make heads or tails of anything you're saying.
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Bullshit you said my reasoning on marth doesnt check out.

XnadrojX said:
I'm saying your reasoning on the marth issue doesn't check out
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Here is my reasoning:

Duskfall98 said:
Imma have to throw a town lean on Texas/marth for being like the only people to actually back themselves up and attempting to actually solve the game.
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You won't answer the question of whether gamesolving is pro town because you know I can just back quote you when you inevitably say yes. Stop misrepping me and stop avoiding questions just because you fucked up and don't want to contradict yourself. This is scum caught in a lie tbh for me. He knows he fucked the pooch and is trying to avoid my question line since Ive him caught.
 
I dunno he was still online when I made that post, it feels like he is dodging me a lot but I don't want to also just lynch him without him having a reasonable defence? In reference to jordan btw. He has still been the scummiest player to me though, so I feel like I kinda want to go through with this lynch.
 
Him defending Toni specifically doesn't make sense to me, it's not an easy lynch to get through, he could easily just push back against "lurker lynches" and in fact did so on the previous page. As scum Jordan would have an invested reason in keeping Toni around as an asset for later in the game but I don't see how it makes any sense for him as town to have any similar train of progression.
 
i guess i can get down on a toni lynch, you're right Texas Cloverleaf if we can't rely on his vote and he doesn't post then we're kinda stuck yeah. lurker lynches suck >_>

wrt jordan i thought his reads prior to the top of this page were fine until the top of this page, dodging the question isn't cool/making false correlations between the gamesolving question and dusk's read on me is scummy. Idt the toni defence is scummy though, i doubt scum!jordan is actually thinking through about keeping toni alive as an advantage, doesn't strike me as someone who thinks far ahead

Duskfall98 what's your read on texas here?
 
bluedoom said:
i guess i can get down on a toni lynch, you're right Texas Cloverleaf if we can't rely on his vote and he doesn't post then we're kinda stuck yeah. lurker lynches suck >_>

wrt jordan i thought his reads prior to the top of this page were fine until the top of this page, dodging the question isn't cool/making false correlations between the gamesolving question and dusk's read on me is scummy. Idt the toni defence is scummy though, i doubt scum!jordan is actually thinking through about keeping toni alive as an advantage, doesn't strike me as someone who thinks far ahead

Duskfall98 what's your read on texas here?
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I have played with texas a good bit true, but we consistently misread each other practically every game so he is tough for me to try get correctly. As I said before I am currently townreading him, he seems to be pretty towny so far through how he is game solving but nothing has jumped out at me to say he is lock either allignment by any means. That is probably a lot to do with the lack of content though that we do not have enough to read each other.

The lurker lynch kinda has me between two minds because yeah toni probably has to be lynched at some point, but I would rather lynch a slot I find scummy (i.e jordan) than a null slot. I would wait to save toni on a day where we aren't sure maybe? Scum lean lynch> lurker lynch is just always better imo.

But if we are going to lynch toni today I guess that is fine as long as we maybe go for jordan tomorrow. Both will probably have to be lynched this game so far anyway, and I could see them as a possible team wrt how texas pointed out jordan wasn't keen on flipping toni yet. Could also just be saving the ml too I guess, but again that ponders the question do we lynch toni now or let him be possibly be used as ml bait later? Maybe it is better to get rid of him now tbh and shrink the poe?
 
Votecount 1.2

tonithetourguide (2): Texas Cloverleaf, bluedoom
bluedoom (1): tonithetourguide
Fenrir Aesir (1): smogon account
smogon account (1): Fenrir Aesir
Duskfall98 (1): Jordan
Jordan (1): Duskfall98

Not voting (2): Clarinet, Sultan of Skook


With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is 11 PM EST 20 March

11 hours.
 
yeah I think my reads are like:
don't lynch they're town in my book: fenrir, smogon account

idk what they're doing too early to tell: texas, clarinet

sorta scummy: jordan, duskfall

there probably exists scum in these lurkers: sultan, toni
 
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