xJownage
Even pendulums swing both ways
Hey guys.....This is my first ubers RMT. (god damnit i have an alert already!). Ubers is a meta i have long liked in XY as in the mid-upper ladder it REQUIRES MOSTLY SKILL AND GREAT TEAMBUILDING ABILITY. Except swagplay as that requires less skill than baton pass...
So i got into XY ubers teambuilding, mostly toying around with stuff i liked and commonly used pokes. After having my fun, i decided to look into sets a little...so i started making teams using good sets off of smogon and whatever. I use my resources well, such as viability ranking threads, pokemon analysis threads, and good RMTs to help with my decision making.
Around a month or two ago i decided to get serious (i.e. make a team that could compete well on the ladder) and did. My first team was pretty good, almost got me listed on the ladder (which for me is pretty good since i overpredict everything). The one problem was it was not anti-meta enough, i.e. orch's threat list wasn't completely countered (anyone who hasn't seen it go to the teambuilding philosophy thread, its the 10th post on the first page). So i continued to make teams. one problem i found was without heavy offense i had a hard time winning and using appropriate counters for everything without not doing enough damage. Therefore i decided: i needed to switch to hyper offense.
I also started doing damage calcs a ton, to figure out what check/countered what. I REALLY looked into it and one day tried something new. Mega Lucario. I found something amazing.....whenever Ekiller came in, I COULD SWITCH IN and KILL IT BEFORE IT KILLED ME. i mean.....holy shit i never expected that. as long as its not some weird max speed variant, i can consistently ohko it with close combat and take only 62ish% from +2 Silk Scarf Espeed. It can also live a non-boosted earthquake from 252adamant arceus. thats AWESOME. Mega Lucario has adaptability...which is its only niche. However adaptability makes it absolutely beastly, even by ubers standards its close combat obliterates almost anything that doesnt resist it (2hkos bulky offensive groudon lol). So i decided to use it. My first team didn't completely counter everything and i used ho-oh. therefore i got to the point where i needed a defogger and zekrom counter that was a special attacker in the last slot....yeah not gonna happen. So i scrapped that and came up with this. The first 5 were amazing together, i realized i checked everybody on orch's threat list, had plenty of offensive power, and still had a free slot to do WHATEVER THE HELL I WANTED. So yeah, that was awesome. At first i wanted to try Yveltal, and for the record, i think all of the people who think its good are just jelly about xerneas, it really is mediocre, although on some teams it definitely has a niche. Then i replaced it with bulky specs kyogre and have not been disappointed. So on with the post cause I'm sure this wall of text is unattractive. And if you read this whole thing shame on you cause you don't have a life.
Lucario-Mega
Welp, i get an Ekiller check AND a sweeper in one. And this dude is potent
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass
Kyogre counter may be the most important thing in ubers....seriously it really is. Arceus grass also provides defog support, and a very important will-o-wisp support. judgement+will-o-wisp+recover is great to stall if need be against bulkier pokes. PP stall is boring as fuck though.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga
Needed a rock setter and special attacker, so in with dialga. Will force out scarfkrom, or kill it. Using 100 defense EVs to ensure no 2hkos from jolly scarfkrom's outrage. You might say "why add a rock setter so early", but i remember liking how lucario and dialga worked together, as well as Arceus grass and dialga. So why wait it was obv gonna happen.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom
HO for me MUST use scarfkrom. This nigga is one of the most useful pokes ive ever used in ubers, and checks/kills SOOO much of the meta. lugia, ho-oh, yveltal, palkia, other dragons, kyogre - all fall to this thing unless they switch. Bolt strike and outrage together have amazing synergy when bolt strike doesn't miss (its like fire blast ffs).
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor
This dude is used on almost all of my teams as a xerneas check...as long as i have any chip damage, it kills it from 85-90% consistently unless they are bulky. Even bulky variants, however, can't live BP from scizor AND mega lucario, so i will usually sack one to beat it. This can switch in on all variants after rocks, as subs will be broken before geomancy and unless xerneas is packing hp fire it can't kill before it. Band scizor also has much utility outside of xerneas, unlike a certain ghost blade that i won't talk about or name(give me one thing it checks or kills. ONE).
FREE SLOT!!!!11111
How the fuck did i do this? i managed to get a free slot. Let's take a look at Orch's threat list please.
Xerneas: Scizor+Luc
Zekrom: Switch prediction. Besides groudon this thing is near uncounterable, and i am NOT going to run physically defensive groudon on HO sorry.
Ekiller: Mega Lucario switches in on SD and proceeds to obliterate any one that doesnt run max speed.
Yveltal: ScarfKrom the TERROR.
Palkia: Scarfkrom, Dialga.
Ho-Oh: SCARFKROM AGAIN! Lucario also packs rock slide for Ho-oh in case scarfkrom got sacked or crippled with the above threats.
Kyogre: Arceus grass walls it, Scarfkrom checks anything thats not timid scarf, which is nonthreatening anyways.
Blaziken: Hate it, but if i can outpredict it Luc can set up in its face. Switching in Scarfkrom is an option as long as it protects first turn and doesnt SD
Kangaskhan (including PuP variants): Yup. PUP will be handled, as scizor ohko's with superpower...and at +2 Zekrom can live a sucker punch and RK with bolt strike/outrage.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Yveltal
So first i tried a yveltal set i found a while back...it was supposedly a great set and with the proper support was scary potent, but on this team it didn't really fit. so after a while i scratched that and thought.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Kyogre
Who better to add than the #3 pokemon in ubers usage, an amazing special attacker, Specs Kyogre. bulky specsogre packs a whallop and is walled by just palkia and arceus-grass. thunder takes care of arceus water but i have to predict. either way, this completed the team, and made this team as potent as it it now.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Landorus-T + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Kyogre
Mega blaziken was a problem, as i couldn't rely on switch prediction, and protect variants could clean most of my team, while SD variants, if they get one off, can destroy my team. therefore i needed to change, and the only viable thing i could think of was swapping out dialga. i still needed rocks however, so i went with earth plate landorus-t, which has extreme power, rocks support, and the important ability to check mega blaziken.
Welp, i get an Ekiller check AND a sweeper in one. And this dude is potent
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass
Kyogre counter may be the most important thing in ubers....seriously it really is. Arceus grass also provides defog support, and a very important will-o-wisp support. judgement+will-o-wisp+recover is great to stall if need be against bulkier pokes. PP stall is boring as fuck though.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga
Needed a rock setter and special attacker, so in with dialga. Will force out scarfkrom, or kill it. Using 100 defense EVs to ensure no 2hkos from jolly scarfkrom's outrage. You might say "why add a rock setter so early", but i remember liking how lucario and dialga worked together, as well as Arceus grass and dialga. So why wait it was obv gonna happen.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom
HO for me MUST use scarfkrom. This nigga is one of the most useful pokes ive ever used in ubers, and checks/kills SOOO much of the meta. lugia, ho-oh, yveltal, palkia, other dragons, kyogre - all fall to this thing unless they switch. Bolt strike and outrage together have amazing synergy when bolt strike doesn't miss (its like fire blast ffs).
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor
This dude is used on almost all of my teams as a xerneas check...as long as i have any chip damage, it kills it from 85-90% consistently unless they are bulky. Even bulky variants, however, can't live BP from scizor AND mega lucario, so i will usually sack one to beat it. This can switch in on all variants after rocks, as subs will be broken before geomancy and unless xerneas is packing hp fire it can't kill before it. Band scizor also has much utility outside of xerneas, unlike a certain ghost blade that i won't talk about or name(give me one thing it checks or kills. ONE).
FREE SLOT!!!!11111
How the fuck did i do this? i managed to get a free slot. Let's take a look at Orch's threat list please.
Xerneas: Scizor+Luc
Zekrom: Switch prediction. Besides groudon this thing is near uncounterable, and i am NOT going to run physically defensive groudon on HO sorry.
Ekiller: Mega Lucario switches in on SD and proceeds to obliterate any one that doesnt run max speed.
Yveltal: ScarfKrom the TERROR.
Palkia: Scarfkrom, Dialga.
Ho-Oh: SCARFKROM AGAIN! Lucario also packs rock slide for Ho-oh in case scarfkrom got sacked or crippled with the above threats.
Kyogre: Arceus grass walls it, Scarfkrom checks anything thats not timid scarf, which is nonthreatening anyways.
Blaziken: Hate it, but if i can outpredict it Luc can set up in its face. Switching in Scarfkrom is an option as long as it protects first turn and doesnt SD
Kangaskhan (including PuP variants): Yup. PUP will be handled, as scizor ohko's with superpower...and at +2 Zekrom can live a sucker punch and RK with bolt strike/outrage.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Yveltal
So first i tried a yveltal set i found a while back...it was supposedly a great set and with the proper support was scary potent, but on this team it didn't really fit. so after a while i scratched that and thought.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Dialga + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Kyogre
Who better to add than the #3 pokemon in ubers usage, an amazing special attacker, Specs Kyogre. bulky specsogre packs a whallop and is walled by just palkia and arceus-grass. thunder takes care of arceus water but i have to predict. either way, this completed the team, and made this team as potent as it it now.
Lucario-Mega + Arceus-Grass + Landorus-T + Scarfkrom + Scizor + Kyogre
Mega blaziken was a problem, as i couldn't rely on switch prediction, and protect variants could clean most of my team, while SD variants, if they get one off, can destroy my team. therefore i needed to change, and the only viable thing i could think of was swapping out dialga. i still needed rocks however, so i went with earth plate landorus-t, which has extreme power, rocks support, and the important ability to check mega blaziken.
Peak: 1601 #98 (down to 1471 atm after exper team)
back up to 1508 at #338. over and out~
The team (finally):
Soooo...here goes nothing:
Suprise S???? (Lucario) @ Lucarionite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Rock Slide
Testing Jolly
Part of why i made this team. There are very few pokes that wall his dual stabs of CC and BP, and at +2 adaptability close combat obliterates 2/3rds of the meta. This dude is a beast. When i decided on the dual stabs i thought "what resists both types?" Ho-oh was the first that came to mind. Rock slide obviously obliterates it, even unboosted. well...the only real things that resist close combat are flying and fairy, fairy being obliterated by BP of course, and rock slide is SE against flying, so even stuff that resists rock in its secondary type will be hit for normal damage. Just don't use this when gliscor is in. Gliscor walls this lucario pretty hard (although it will take a lot of damage when it kills with EQ).
This dude is actually a great win condition. He doesnt need coverage unless i want to run ice punch to deal with gliscor, but is that really necessary? Not for me. Swords dance makes this dude a potent sweeper, and is often used when somebody else has to switch and i can ohko either way, allows my bullet punch to do much more to the next poke. Onward.....
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Rock Slide
Testing Jolly
Part of why i made this team. There are very few pokes that wall his dual stabs of CC and BP, and at +2 adaptability close combat obliterates 2/3rds of the meta. This dude is a beast. When i decided on the dual stabs i thought "what resists both types?" Ho-oh was the first that came to mind. Rock slide obviously obliterates it, even unboosted. well...the only real things that resist close combat are flying and fairy, fairy being obliterated by BP of course, and rock slide is SE against flying, so even stuff that resists rock in its secondary type will be hit for normal damage. Just don't use this when gliscor is in. Gliscor walls this lucario pretty hard (although it will take a lot of damage when it kills with EQ).
This dude is actually a great win condition. He doesnt need coverage unless i want to run ice punch to deal with gliscor, but is that really necessary? Not for me. Swords dance makes this dude a potent sweeper, and is often used when somebody else has to switch and i can ohko either way, allows my bullet punch to do much more to the next poke. Onward.....
I Cripple PPL (Arceus-Grass) @ Meadow Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 164 SDef / 248 HP / 96 Spd
Timid Nature
- Defog
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Grass Knot
Classic support arceus, ima try to keep this relatively short. Max Special defense bulk helps it wall special users, while will-o-wisp walls physical attackers it has no investment for. This is my kyogre wall, scarf kyogre can't touch it and specs is obliterated by zekrom. Defog is for defog, and Grass Knot is for a decently powerful stab that helps it do damage without will-o-wisp or recover stalling. Sucks for the rare gastrodon, which is another wall for kyogre that i have found is quite popular lol.
- Defog
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Grass Knot
Classic support arceus, ima try to keep this relatively short. Max Special defense bulk helps it wall special users, while will-o-wisp walls physical attackers it has no investment for. This is my kyogre wall, scarf kyogre can't touch it and specs is obliterated by zekrom. Defog is for defog, and Grass Knot is for a decently powerful stab that helps it do damage without will-o-wisp or recover stalling. Sucks for the rare gastrodon, which is another wall for kyogre that i have found is quite popular lol.
Landorus-Therian (M) @ Earth Plate
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- U-turn
Rock setter and Blaziken check. unfortunately SD protect mega blaze wrecks my life but oh well...its uncommon since giratina and gyarados wall it into the next universe. I use earth plate rather than rocky helmet, as an attacking set is much more synergetic for the team. this thing still shits on mega blaze, so i am fine with it, and it hits incredibly hard. unlike dialga, this is not a common lead, i usually lead situationally. This was an idea given to me and talked about by UXQ iampie, after his mega blaze cleaned my team. I retain rock setup while gaining an important check to mega blaze...so another kink has been fixed.
Just kidding.
Obligatory Obliterator (Zekrom) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Naughty Nature
- Bolt Strike
- Volt Switch
- Draco Meteor
- Outrage
Alliteration makes me feel intelligent Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
Scarfkrom may be one of the most threatening pokes in the tier. its stronger than Ekiller to me. scarfkrom has amazing utility as its speed allows it to hit extremely hard. volt switch is for scouting my foes scarfkrom check as long as groudon or gliscor isn't used by the opposing team. Bolt strike has amazing coverage, destroying lugia, ho-oh, yveltal, etc. and hurting the tier dominated by many flying types. with Draco Meteor/outrage, i have near perfect neutral coverage and a convienient plethora of resistances, such as water, fire, flying, steel, etc. This is one of the best pokes in ubers for hyper offense.
pls
XerneasKiller (Scizor) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 248 HP / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Knock Off
Bullet Punch is infinite utility for this dude, and as his nickname implies, he eats xerneas with any chip damage for breakfast. Scizor has one of the best utilities in the tier, and also counters mega kanga, even +2 sucker punch from adamant kanga won't kill, while superpower will procede to obliterate it. not only that, but it is still alive to kill any xerneas later in the battle. this coupled with mega lucario this team is truly fairy hell and hazardous for everybody. Knock off is a great utility when i don't know what is coming in. U-turn serves a similar purpose, and allows me a free switch into whatever comes in. This is a needed staple on almost every team in HO ubers, as one of the only true ways to somewhat consistently stop xerneas.
The beast of ubers
Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Water Spout
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Specs kyogre. I'm sorry, no other kyogre set compares to this. period. Lust orb palkia can't even switch in:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Thunder vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Palkia: 187-221 (58 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I picked hydro pump, yes i did. fuck that 80% accuracy i want power. this is bulky, and thats its purpose. i feel like i'm one of the few that uses kyogre as a win condition, i like bringing it in when i can kill something due to the opponent not having a viable switch in. as long as i am above 74% i use water spout, but that doesn't really happen often, so mostly i use hydro pump so i don't have to switch most of the time. as a result of me being slow, i am considering switching water spout for something. Creative would be grass knot for gastrodon, which is used on stall for this dude. Another would be sleep talk, which would be a cool option to help with darkrai and sleep on my team, and also allows me to abuse coverage without the sacrifice of specs power. we'll see. this right now is one of the more replaceable slots, as stated i ran yveltal before and found it was beating a dead horse as i could already handle anything yveltal would and was missing out on some key wallbreaking power.
So yeah, heres the team. and i hope you appreciate the detail of this RMT, it took me about 2 hours to write thank you.
will continue laddering with this team and see how high i get. i have high hopes, and i want to crack 1600 again before i retire this team.
thoughts, rate, like, and if you can't think of a way to help me, just say it please. i would love to know that you believe my team is near bulletproof (although that is truly impossible, believe me)
Scarfkrom may be one of the most threatening pokes in the tier. its stronger than Ekiller to me. scarfkrom has amazing utility as its speed allows it to hit extremely hard. volt switch is for scouting my foes scarfkrom check as long as groudon or gliscor isn't used by the opposing team. Bolt strike has amazing coverage, destroying lugia, ho-oh, yveltal, etc. and hurting the tier dominated by many flying types. with Draco Meteor/outrage, i have near perfect neutral coverage and a convienient plethora of resistances, such as water, fire, flying, steel, etc. This is one of the best pokes in ubers for hyper offense.
pls
XerneasKiller (Scizor) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 248 HP / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Knock Off
Bullet Punch is infinite utility for this dude, and as his nickname implies, he eats xerneas with any chip damage for breakfast. Scizor has one of the best utilities in the tier, and also counters mega kanga, even +2 sucker punch from adamant kanga won't kill, while superpower will procede to obliterate it. not only that, but it is still alive to kill any xerneas later in the battle. this coupled with mega lucario this team is truly fairy hell and hazardous for everybody. Knock off is a great utility when i don't know what is coming in. U-turn serves a similar purpose, and allows me a free switch into whatever comes in. This is a needed staple on almost every team in HO ubers, as one of the only true ways to somewhat consistently stop xerneas.
The beast of ubers
Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Water Spout
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Specs kyogre. I'm sorry, no other kyogre set compares to this. period. Lust orb palkia can't even switch in:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Thunder vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Palkia: 187-221 (58 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I picked hydro pump, yes i did. fuck that 80% accuracy i want power. this is bulky, and thats its purpose. i feel like i'm one of the few that uses kyogre as a win condition, i like bringing it in when i can kill something due to the opponent not having a viable switch in. as long as i am above 74% i use water spout, but that doesn't really happen often, so mostly i use hydro pump so i don't have to switch most of the time. as a result of me being slow, i am considering switching water spout for something. Creative would be grass knot for gastrodon, which is used on stall for this dude. Another would be sleep talk, which would be a cool option to help with darkrai and sleep on my team, and also allows me to abuse coverage without the sacrifice of specs power. we'll see. this right now is one of the more replaceable slots, as stated i ran yveltal before and found it was beating a dead horse as i could already handle anything yveltal would and was missing out on some key wallbreaking power.
So yeah, heres the team. and i hope you appreciate the detail of this RMT, it took me about 2 hours to write thank you.
will continue laddering with this team and see how high i get. i have high hopes, and i want to crack 1600 again before i retire this team.
thoughts, rate, like, and if you can't think of a way to help me, just say it please. i would love to know that you believe my team is near bulletproof (although that is truly impossible, believe me)
Suprise S???? (Lucario) @ Lucarionite
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Rock Slide
Time Stopper (Dialga) @ Adamant Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 132 HP / 124 Spd
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Draco Meteor
- Flash Cannon
- Fire Blast
Obligatory Obliterator (Zekrom) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Naughty Nature
- Bolt Strike
- Volt Switch
- Dragon Claw
- Outrage
I Cripple PPL (Arceus-Grass) @ Meadow Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Defog
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Judgment
XerneasKiller (Scizor) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Knock Off
Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Rock Slide
Time Stopper (Dialga) @ Adamant Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SAtk / 132 HP / 124 Spd
Modest Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Draco Meteor
- Flash Cannon
- Fire Blast
Obligatory Obliterator (Zekrom) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 SAtk
Naughty Nature
- Bolt Strike
- Volt Switch
- Dragon Claw
- Outrage
I Cripple PPL (Arceus-Grass) @ Meadow Plate
Ability: Multitype
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Defog
- Will-O-Wisp
- Recover
- Judgment
XerneasKiller (Scizor) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Knock Off
Kyogre @ Choice Specs
Ability: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Sleep Talk
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
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