Project Ubers Victim of the Week - Hiatus

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Fusion Flare

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And the results are In!

Fun Fact: All of the winners for last week's VOTW got a total of 5 votes! So let's get to it!

In the checks section, our winner is...
:bw/zekrom:
ZEKROM! Fried fish has never tasted so good before! Congratulations to rng loser!

Now for our counters section! And the whale whalloper for this week is....
:bw/shedinja:
SHEDINJA! Being completely unfazed really gets you somewhere when it comes to viability, eh? Congratulations to SiTuM!

And last, but not least...our Unconventional Pick section....
:bw/lanturn:
LANTGOAT! There's always a bigger fish, though not by size, of course! Congratulations to FatFighter2! All three of you are getting 1 point!

Now for our newest victim! The metallic menace! The premier Steel type of Ubers! A fixture on Hyper Offense, It's DRAGON DANCE NECROZMA DUSK MANE!
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Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 128 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sunsteel Strike
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake / Knock Off
- Dragon Dance

Sporting obscene bulk and colossal attack, this pokemon is a fearsome breaker on the battlefield with its typing letting it setup with utter ease! But can it be defeated? I mean, its said that pokemon could beat a billion lions, so surely beating down one should be easy, right? right?
 

BasedWhat?

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:bw/groudon: is a CHECK.

Galois Extension (Groudon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Drought
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spe
Impish Nature
- Toxic / Thunder Wave / Stealth Rock
- Bulk Up / Swords Dance
- Precipice Blades
- Stone Edge

Take two Sunsteel Strikes, apply operation T-Wave into NDM/Tangrowth or Swords Dance into Precipice Blades.

+2 0 Atk Groudon Precipice Blades vs. 128 HP / 4 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 445-526 (121.2 - 143.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Groudon Thunder Wave vs. 128 HP Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever (!)
+6 252+ SpA Groudon-Primal Eruption (150 BP) vs. -6 Lvl 1 0 HP / 0 SpD Dry Skin Snover: 11292-61852 (94100 - 515433.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Groudon: 118-139 (29.4 - 34.6%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Heracross2.0

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Poliwrath @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 68 HP / 252 Def / 188 Spe
Impish Nature
- Scald
- Circle Throw
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

A full blown counter to Necromaza-DM. The EV spread means you outspeed a Necro that hasn't boosted yet and can fish for burns with Scald since unboosted Quake is only a 4HKO. If they DD on the switch, Earthquake has an extremely low chance to 2HKO, so you can just phaze it out with Circle Throw if it's really an issue.

252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. 68 HP / 252+ Def Poliwrath: 103-122 (30.5 - 36.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. 68 HP / 252+ Def Poliwrath: 154-182 (45.5 - 53.8%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Fun fact: I created this spread in Untitled 420.
 
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:ss/Zygarde-Complete: This thing is a nightmare to deal with taking Zygarde

Zygarde @ Leftovers
Ability: Power Construct
EVs: 204 HP / 248 Def / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Thousand Arrows
- Haze
- Rest
- Glare

Haze Zygarde is a counter to Necrozma. with Haze to remove its Boosts from Dragon Dance and Weakness Policy.Glare allows Zygard to outspeed Necrozma making dealing with it even easier as you can than safely remove the boosts.

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 204 HP / 248+ Def Zygarde: 195-231 (47.7 - 56.6%) -- 33.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 204 HP / 248+ Def Zygarde-Complete: 195-231 (31.2 - 37%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
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:ss/kyogre:
Kyogre @ Leftovers
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Scald
- Calm Mind
- Sleep Talk
- Rest

This Kyogre is a counter to DD Dusk Mane, instantly winning if it gets a burn but even if it gets hit on switch in a few times and doesn't get the burn it can still win. No +1 hit 2HKO's Kyogre while Scald in rain easily does, making Kyogre win the interaction always. Sleep Talk > Ice Beam to threaten even while asleep, making this mu even easier.
0 SpA Kyogre Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Necrozma-Dusk-Mane in Rain: 171-202 (51 - 60.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 240+ Def Kyogre: 161-190 (39.8 - 47%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
 
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Lasen

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reserving Skarmory because I wrote its analysis (awaiting GP) (It's good) (gone right) (in Uberscord)
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Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Roost
- Body Press
- Whirlwind / Iron Defense
- Spikes


Skarmory is a counter to NDM. It has enough bulk to withstand any hit, even a +1 crit Stone Edge and can either phaze it out with Whirlwind, Iron Defense in its face to (eventually) damage it with Body Press or set Spikes in its face, laughing all the way to the bank.

relevant calcs:

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 118-139 (35.3 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 88-104 (26.3 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory on a critical hit: 176-208 (52.6 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+6 252+ Def Skarmory Body Press vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 328-387 (89.3 - 105.4%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
 
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Kartana @ Leftovers
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Atk / 164 Def
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Synthesis
- Knock Off

This 1 foot tall paper origami counters DD NDM. Just goes to show paper does beat rock.

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 164 Def Kartana: 144-170 (44.7 - 52.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 92+ Atk Kartana Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 331-391 (98.8 - 116.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

Time for NDM to run heat wave
 
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:ss/corviknight:

Dosnt care about nothing of Necrozma-DM and set up in front of him.

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 144-170 (36 - 42.5%) -- 93.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Set:

Corviknight @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe
Impish Nature
- Bulk Up
- Body Press
- Brave Bird / Substitute
- Roost
 
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Reserving Hippowdon father

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Hippowdon @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Curse
- Slack Off
- Earthquake
- Rock Tomb

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hippowdon: 199-235 (47.3 - 55.9%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Hippowdon: 133-157 (31.6 - 37.3%) -- 86.8% chance to 3HKO

Delicious.
 
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Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Spikes
- Iron Defense
- Body Press

Phys. Def Ferrothorn is a counter to DD Necrozma-DM. Iron Defense makes it deal no damage, Leech Seed + Leftovers recovers all damage done alongside dealing the chip with Iron Barbs, and Body Press lets it threaten Necrozma, even forcing an immediate switch so that Ferrothorn can't deal too much damage to whatever is coming. There's simply nothing Necrozma can do here.

Best move it can do before you can set up anything: +1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 124-146 (35.2 - 41.4%) -- 75.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 62-74 (17.6 - 21%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252+ Def Ferrothorn Body Press vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 157-185 (42.7 - 50.4%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO
 
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reserving tangrowth



pain (Tangrowth) @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Grass Knot
- Leech Seed
- Earthquake
- Sleep Powder



check. leech seed NDM as it attacks you (+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 192-226 (47.5 - 55.9%) -- 78.5% chance to 2HKO) and sleep powder after. you should recover enough hp to win the 1v1 even with NDM at +3 (+3 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Tangrowth: 318-375 (78.7 - 92.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)
 
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Goth Magnezone @ Air Balloon
Ability: Magnet Pull
EVs: 108 HP / 252 Def / 148 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magnet Rise
- Body Press
- Iron Defense
- Discharge

Check to offensive NDM and counter to defensive variants. Switch in on Earthquake or Dragon Dance (to keep Air Balloon up), then Magnet Rise once Balloon is popped, Iron Defense up and Body Press. Magnet Pull lets Magnezone trap NDM, and Discharge is useful for 30% chance to paralyze. 148 Speed EVs lets Magnezone reach 193 Speed to speedcreep defensive NDM (190 Speed).

+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 108 HP / 252+ Def Magnezone: 51-60 (16.5 - 19.4%) -- possible 6HKO
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Stone Edge vs. 108 HP / 252+ Def Magnezone: 68-80 (22 - 25.9%) -- 4.2% chance to 4HKO if you can even land them
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Earthquake vs. Air Balloon Magnezone: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever

+6 252+ Def Magnezone Body Press vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 285-336 (77.6 - 91.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Reserving ygod

:ss/yveltal:

Yveltal @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
IVs: 18 Spe
- Foul Play
- Roost
- Sucker Punch
- U-turn

This physically bulky Yveltal set counters Necrozma-DM. It comfortably tanks Stone Edge and OHKOs +1 NDM with Foul Play. It can Roost off the damage or go for a Foul Play + Sucker Punch 2HKO. This spread aims for maximum physical bulk and it negatively creeps the provided Necrozma-DM set. Due to this, it can Foul Play without fearing a +2 Stone Edge in return. An alternative spread with Relaxed nature and 8 Spe IVs is slower than neutral natured NDM.

252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Yveltal: 154-183 (33.7 - 40.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Yveltal: 308-364 (67.5 - 79.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dark Aura Yveltal Foul Play vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 316-375 (86.1 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
0 Atk Dark Aura Yveltal Sucker Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 154-184 (41.9 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
+1 252+ Atk Dark Aura Yveltal Foul Play vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 477-562 (129.9 - 153.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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:ss/calyrex-shadow:
Calyrex-Shadow @ Choice Specs
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Astral Barrage
- Trick
- Psyshock
- Aromatherapy

Specs Calyrex-Shadow is an offensive check to all offensive Necrozma-DM variants, naturally outspeeding it (horses are 8km/h faster than lions) and OHKOing it with Astral Barrage.

252 SpA Choice Specs Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 128 HP / 0 SpD Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 490-577 (133.5 - 157.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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Hey, it's time to open the voting stage!

But first...
:ss/buzzwole:
Buzzwole @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 Spe
Impish Nature
- Ice Punch
- Lunge
- Bulk Up
- Roost

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THE SWOLE. and im sure this singular lion won't like it either.
You set up on it all day, and roost from time to time, pretty simple, really. counter.
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Shadow Rider Specs Calyrex-S by 1729is56time
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Bulky Groudon by BasedWhat?
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Tangrowth by CursedStar
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Skarmory by Lasen
Counters
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Haze Zygarde by Yourwelcomthank
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Phys Def Yveltal by Ballfire
RestTalk Kyogre by Fc
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THE SWOLINGTON by Fusion Flare
Ferrothorn by Ropalme1914
Unconventional Picks
Magnezone by rng loser
Circle Throw Poliwrath by Heracross2.0
Curse Hippowdon by Luna's Banned now
Bulk Up Corviknight by FearNeverDies
Swords Dance Kartana by FatFighter2
 
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