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Project PU Victim of the Week! Finished
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Ludicolo Togedemaru
Darkinium
the mighty nuaguunibi
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Lycanroc @ Lycanium Z
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Drill Run
- Sucker Punch
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Lycanroc @ Lycanium Z
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
- Drill Run
- Sucker Punch
Voting starts Thursday!
Gurdurr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 112 Atk / 144 Def /
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Knock Off
counter. gurdurr can flex on lycanroc by taking like 58% max from +2 splintered stormshards and using bulk up on a forced switch. drain punch gets clicked against +4 and you get like half the damage you took back.
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Mudsdale @ Leftovers
Ability: Stamina
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 44 Def / 156 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Toxic
- Protect
Mudsdale is a full on counter to Lycanroc, eating up any hit, even a boosted Splintered Stormshards, and can even lessen the blow with Protect, while obviously also smacking Lycanroc with one Earthquake in retaliation.
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Splintered Stormshards vs. 252 HP / 56 Def Mudsdale: 268-316 (66.3 - 78.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed Nature
- Scald
- Earthquake
- Recover
- Curse / Toxic
Quagsire is a straight up counter to Lycanroc. Lycanroc can SD up for days and would still only do 34% max with Stormshards which Quag can just Recover with ease thanks to Unaware.
252 Atk Lycanroc Splintered Stormshards vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Quagsire: 114-134 (28.9 - 34%) -- 99% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
Drill Run and Sucker don't do any better so yeah, Lycanroc easily goes down to Scald or EQ. The latter of which has a good chance to OHKO.
0 SpA Quagsire Scald vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Lycanroc: 174-206 (59.7 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lycanroc: 266-314 (91.4 - 107.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
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Floatzel @ Fightinium Z
Jolly Nature
Ability: Water Veil
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
- Bulk Up
- Waterfall
- Low Kick
- Aqua Jet
Check. Outspeeds Lycanroc and OHKOs with Waterfall. Can tank a boosted
252 Atk Floatzel Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lycanroc: 320-378 (109.9 - 129.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Floatzel: 225-265 (72.3 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Floatzel: 225-265 (72.3 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Granbull @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Earthquake
- Heal Bell
- Thunder Wave
Granbull functions as an effective check to Lycanroc with both Intimidate which allows it to take a Splintered Stormshards and Earthquake for the guaranteed OHKO. Also if Lycanroc ran Iron Head over Drill Run for whatever reason it would still only do like 40% max at -1.
252+ Atk Granbull Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Lycanroc: 320-378 (109.9 - 129.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-1 252 Atk Lycanroc Splintered Stormshards vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Granbull: 238-282 (61.9 - 73.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Kabutops @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Rapid Spin
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off
Scarf Kabu is definitely a solid check to Lycanroc, being able to outspeed it and OHKO it with a Liquidation. Even at +2 Attack, Lycanroc doesn't threaten Kabu unless it is below 60% HP with Sucker Punch so in most cases, as long as Kabutops remains healthy, it can take Lycanroc out.
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kabutops: 135-159 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Poliwrath (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 248 Def / 8 SpD
Impish Nature
- Circle Throw
- Scald
- Sleep Talk
- Rest
Poliwrath acts as a hard check. It can come into any lycanroc attack, it can tank a +2 Splintered Stormshards, it can phase lycanroc for more chip damage on the opposing lycanroc's teammates if rocks or spikes are on the field or straight up kill it and it can rest after damage. After Splintered Stormshards, it doesn't die to a +2 stone edge and can heal up.
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 248+ Def Poliwrath: 111-132 (28.9 - 34.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Splintered Stormshards vs. 252 HP / 248+ Def Poliwrath: 212-250 (55.2 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
Let's take the worst case scenario, you get the max roll. 65.1 - 6 (lefties) = 59.1 + 34.3 = 93.4. So, even if you have rocks on the field and you come into lycanroc, you can eat a +2 Lycanium z and smash it with scald or phase it.
Golurk @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Shadow Punch
- Ice Punch
Golurk as a check for Lycanroc. Watch out because Golurk gets OHKOed by a +2 Splintered Stormshards so you’ll have to play much more intelligently with your Golurk against Lycanroc. If you play it correctly however, you annihilate Lycanroc with an EQ.
Persian-Alola @ Darkinium Z
Ability: Fur Coat
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Parting Shot
- Taunt
- Foul Play
- Toxic
A solid check to Lycanroc. Alolan-Persian can come in as Lycanroc set-ups and bop it with Foul Play at +2 since you tank Sucker Punch/Accelerock easily. If weakened and unable to switch in directly in fear of an attack, it can still revenge kill it.
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Darkinium
the mighty nuaguunibi
Aggron @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Head Smash
- Heavy Slam
- Taunt
Shuca Berry Aggron makes for a good check, tanking a Drill Run and hitting back with a Heavy Slam. Even when boosted Aggron still takes a Drill Run fairly safely.
+2 252 Atk Lycanroc Drill Run vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Shuca Berry Aggron: 192-226 (68.3 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Checks: StickingGum's Alolan Persian, pogofish's Floatzel
Counters: Jmash324's Mudsdale, Oathkeepre's Quagsire
Checks: Kabutops and Alolan Persian
Counters: Quagsire and Gurdurr
Counters: Quagsire and Gurdurr
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