z3ll1 [old]
Banned deucer.
checks: primeape, hitmonchan
counters: poliwrath, gurdurr
counters: poliwrath, gurdurr
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Checks: Hitmonchan and Primeape
Counters: Poliwrath and Gurdurr
Counters: Poliwrath and Gurdurr
Winners
Checks
Mirbro's Primeape,
Katy's Hitmonchan,
KellyKafka's Manectric
Counters
Gum's Gurdurr,
jonago's Poliwrath
Grats to you guys for those awesome submissions! Alolaslash is very common nowadays in this meta and this will certainly help other users. New victim is....
Drampa @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 136 HP / 252 SpA / 120 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
Voting begins late Wednesday night!
Checks
Counters
Grats to you guys for those awesome submissions! Alolaslash is very common nowadays in this meta and this will certainly help other users. New victim is....
Drampa @ Choice Specs
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 136 HP / 252 SpA / 120 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Hyper Voice
- Fire Blast
- Focus Blast
Voting begins late Wednesday night!
Aurorus @ Choice Specs
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Blizzard
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Rock
While Aurorus can't switch in, it can revenge kill or be brought in via voltturn and easily OHKO Drampa. It can also come in on a drampa locked into hyper voice but it does a hefty chunk. Nice check.
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Hitmonchan @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 244 HP / 136 Atk / 128 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Mach Punch
- Thunder Punch
- Rapid Spin
Hitmonchan is a check. Being able to take at least one draco from full HP and obviously threaten Drampa with a Drain Punch which has a chance of killing. Not much else needs to be said. Drampa gets knocked out hehe.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Draco Meteor vs. 244 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Hitmonchan: 220-261 (72.8 - 86.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
136+ Atk Iron Fist Hitmonchan Drain Punch vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 290-344 (87.6 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO (48 - 56.9% recovered)
136+ Atk Iron Fist Hitmonchan Drain Punch vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 290-344 (87.6 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO (48 - 56.9% recovered)
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Carbink @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Moonblast
- Toxic / Calm Mind
- Rest
Stall staple and thus one of its main ways to deal with Drampa. I consider it a Counter because it can switch in to Drampa's STAB moves reliably and it doesn't get 2HKO'ed by it's best form of dealing with Carbink: Focus Blast. I put Calm Mind there as an option to live Focus Blasts easier while you are asleep. I don't know how much of a use it has in practise but if you want to counter Drampa reliably you might consider running Calm Mind on there.
Drampa's STAB vs unboosted Carbink
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
Focus Blast vs unboosted Carbink
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 119-141 (39.1 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
After a Calm Mind, Carbink can't get 3HKO'ed anymore while you're asleep.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Focus Blast vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 80-95 (26.3 - 31.2%) -- 13.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
Focus Blast vs unboosted Carbink
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 119-141 (39.1 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
After a Calm Mind, Carbink can't get 3HKO'ed anymore while you're asleep.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Focus Blast vs. +1 252 HP / 252+ SpD Carbink: 80-95 (26.3 - 31.2%) -- 13.3% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Katy
Banned deucer.
Silvally-Fairy @ Fairy Memory
Ability: RKS System
EVs: 48 HP / 208 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Multi-Attack
- Thunderbolt
- Parting Shot
- Defog
Fairyvlly is a Check:
at full HP Silvally-Fairy is able to tank one Hyper Voice and has a chance to revenge kill Drampa after Rocks damage with its STAB Multi-Attack.
Silvally-Fairy can also come in on Drampa, when Drampa is choice locked into its strongest STAB in Draco Meteor and can take advantage of it
because it is either able to Defog Hazards away or can Parting Shot out to give another Member on its Squad a Momentum while lowering
the opposing Mons Stats in Att and SpA.
Calcs:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Hyper Voice vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Fairy: 261-307 (76 - 89.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Fire Blast vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Fairy: 212-250 (61.8 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
208 Atk Silvally-Fairy Multi-Attack vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 264-312 (79.7 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
208 Atk Silvally-Fairy Multi-Attack vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 264-312 (79.7 - 94.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Drampa Fire Blast vs. 48 HP / 0 SpD Silvally-Fairy: 212-250 (61.8 - 72.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
208 Atk Silvally-Fairy Multi-Attack vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 264-312 (79.7 - 94.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
208 Atk Silvally-Fairy Multi-Attack vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 264-312 (79.7 - 94.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
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The original Ape is back 
Primeape @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Gunk Shot
- Stone Edge
Scarfed Ape is a great check to Specs Drampa. Primeape, with the Choice Scarf, is extremely fast and is able to outspeed Drampa everytime no matter what. Drampa then gets eaten up by Primeape STAB Super Effective Close Combat, killing it instantly. Of course there is the chance that your opponent will switch Drampa out but even then you can press U-turn on the predicted switch.
252 Atk Primeape Close Combat vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 390-458 (117.8 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(bop)
Primeape @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- U-turn
- Gunk Shot
- Stone Edge
Scarfed Ape is a great check to Specs Drampa. Primeape, with the Choice Scarf, is extremely fast and is able to outspeed Drampa everytime no matter what. Drampa then gets eaten up by Primeape STAB Super Effective Close Combat, killing it instantly. Of course there is the chance that your opponent will switch Drampa out but even then you can press U-turn on the predicted switch.
252 Atk Primeape Close Combat vs. 136 HP / 0 Def Drampa: 390-458 (117.8 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
(bop)
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How about we specify if the Pokemon is a check or counter for convenience, and actually do our reservation posts.
Articuno @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 204 SpD / 56 Spe
Calm Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Freeze-Dry
- Toxic
Specially Defensive Articuno is a solid check to Choice Specs Drampa, as Articuno can switch into any attack when healthy, outspeed it, potentially waste PP with Roost, and chunk it with Freeze Dry. However, potential Stealth Rock and Fire Blast still denting Articuno makes me a bit iffy on making it a counter.
Articuno @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 248 HP / 204 SpD / 56 Spe
Calm Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Freeze-Dry
- Toxic
Specially Defensive Articuno is a solid check to Choice Specs Drampa, as Articuno can switch into any attack when healthy, outspeed it, potentially waste PP with Roost, and chunk it with Freeze Dry. However, potential Stealth Rock and Fire Blast still denting Articuno makes me a bit iffy on making it a counter.
Mr. Mime @ Fightinium Z
Ability: Soundproof
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Dazzling Gleam
- Focus Blast
- Nasty Plot
(sorry Mirbro for taking this but you had 24 hours to make your post after your reservation)
Check. This mime comes close to walling Drampa completely but there's one move that takes it down and that's Fire Blast, which 2HKOs Mime. Mime is immune to Draco due to its typing, is immune to Hyper Voice due to its ability, and 4x resists Focus Blast. Other than that, Mime just clicks All-Out Pummeling and takes Drampa out in one shot.
Checks
Gum's
Toy Time King's
Katy's
FairyPhantomHurious's
Jmash324's
Oathkeepre's
Counters
jonago's
Vote for 2 checks. New victim on Sunday!
Aurorus and Mr. Sex Offender
Hitmonchan & Mr. Mime
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Winners
Checks
Oathkeepre's Mr. Mime,
Gum's Aurorus
Counter
jonago's Carbink
Great posts folks! Carbink being the only counter to Drampa shows how dangerous it is. The checks were good too! Alright, next victim is.....
Oricorio-Pom-Pom @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Hurricane
- Roost
- Revelation Dance / Hidden Power Fighting / Taunt
Voting begins Thursday!
Checks
Counter
Great posts folks! Carbink being the only counter to Drampa shows how dangerous it is. The checks were good too! Alright, next victim is.....
Oricorio-Pom-Pom @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Dancer
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Calm Mind
- Hurricane
- Roost
- Revelation Dance / Hidden Power Fighting / Taunt
Voting begins Thursday!
Katy
Banned deucer.
Lanturn @ Choice Specs
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 56 SpD / 200 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Volt Switch
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power Grass
Lanturn is a notable Check because:
Lanturn is able to always come in on Oricorio PomPom, since it has the typing and ability to come in on it multiple times.
After a Calm Mind, Ice Beam from Specs Lanturn still does a good amount with a max roll of 67% which keeps it above the Roost Regeneration which is 50% each turn, forcing - with a small chance of a freeze - Oricorio PomPom out in the process.
If Oricorio PomPom goes for its STAB in Revelation Dance, Lanturn is free to come in on it and regenerate its helath 1/4.
Calcs:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 304-358 (85.8 - 101.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 279-328 (78.8 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Volt Switch vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 178-210 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Ice Beam vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 204-240 (57.6 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lanturn: 79-94 (20.2 - 24%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lanturn: 183-216 (46.8 - 55.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 279-328 (78.8 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Volt Switch vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 178-210 (50.2 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Lanturn Ice Beam vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 204-240 (57.6 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lanturn: 79-94 (20.2 - 24%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Lanturn: 183-216 (46.8 - 55.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
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Kabutops @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Stone Edge
- Knock Off
- Rapid Spin
Sorry for late submission but yeah, Kabutops is a check. Being able to outspeed the bird thanks to Choice Scarf, it is able to threaten it with a super-effective STAB Stone Edge, which you guessed it, always kills the bird.
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Regirock @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Toxic
Regirock is a consistent Pom-Pom counter. Even at +1, Pom-Pom can only 3HKO Regirock. This leaves a turn empty for regirock where it could set up Rocks or just attack Pom-Pom if rocks are already up. A single Stone Edge from Regirock is able to bop Pom-Pom after rocks. If the Pom-Pom is not running Hidden Power Fighting, it is unable to kill Regirock and still lets it set up rocks for free. However, if Pom-Pom is running Taunt, Stone Edge is able to kill it after chip even though Hurricane does almost nothing even at +2.
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Revelation Dance vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Regirock: 118-139 (32.4 - 38.1%) -- 96.7% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hidden Power Fighting vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Regirock: 106-126 (29.1 - 34.6%) -- 6.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Regirock: 72-85 (19.7 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Regirock Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 288-342 (81.3 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hidden Power Fighting vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Regirock: 106-126 (29.1 - 34.6%) -- 6.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+1 0 SpA Oricorio-Pom-Pom Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 200 SpD Regirock: 72-85 (19.7 - 23.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
0 Atk Regirock Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Oricorio-Pom-Pom: 288-342 (81.3 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
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