VGC 21 VGC 2017 Porygon2

yuki

Huh? Me? Not this time...
is a Site Content Manageris a Forum Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Smogon Discord Contributoris a Top Contributoris a Battle Simulator Moderatoris a Top Team Rater Alumnusis a Battle Simulator Admin Alumnusis a Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Community Leader Alumnus
[OVERVIEW]
Porygon2 establishes itself as the premier Trick Room setter in the VGC 2017 metagame boasting great overall bulk with Eviolite, and offensive capability with Download. Porygon2 gets access to a good amount of offensive coverage, capable of tackling the likes of Garchomp, Araquanid, and Tapu Bulu with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. Porygon2 also displays great prowess in endgame situations thanks to Recover and Toxic allowing it to poison bulky targets that it usually doesn't hit so well, such as Snorlax, and continually heal. While Porygon2's only weakness is very uncommon in the metagame, Fighting-types like Hariyama, Pheromosa, and Buzzwole can cause it plenty of trouble. Its main drawback comes when fighting against bulkier Steel-types such as Celesteela that can shrug off Toxic and match its defensive capabilities. Its offensive presence is also significantly decreased when Download boosts Attack, making it somewhat less reliable. Additionally, Porygon2 is susceptible to Knock Off from Alolan Muk and Hariyama, making it significantly less bulky.

[SET]
name: Trick Room
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt / Toxic
move 3: Trick Room
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Download / Analytic
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 192 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ice Beam is Porygon2's primary damaging move thanks to its wide coverage, being particularly effective against the likes of Garchomp and Tapu Bulu. Thunderbolt is a great coverage option that gives Porygon2 a nice way to break through Celesteela and Tapu Fini, which it would be unable to do otherwise. Toxic can make Porygon2 a consistent wincon in longer games, especially against bulkier Pokemon such as Snorlax and Pokemon it would otherwise struggle to hit such as Alolan Marowak. Trick Room is Porygon2's best utility, providing the team with a great speed control option against the slew of fast Pokemon in the metagame like Tapu Koko, Alolan Ninetales, and Kartana. Recover gives Porygon2 longevity, allowing it to successfully play out endgames with Toxic or outlast opposing Pokemon that don't have their own recovery. Download is the most common ability on Porygon2, as it gives it a chance to become a genuine offensive presence, notably allowing it to OHKO Garchomp and 2HKO Tapu Koko with Ice Beam. Analytic is a good alternative that provides a more consistent boost to damage thanks to its relatively low Speed.

Porygon2 always wants to set Trick Room up for slower teammates such as Gigalith, Araquanid, and Alolan Muk, allowing these sorts of teams to snowball. Porygon2 is capable of dueling most Pokemon in the metagame thanks to Download, so it is beneficial to play a longer endgame while continually healing with Recoverx especially against foes that don't have a super effective move or access to a Z-Move. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are best used in conjunction thanks to covering a good portion of the current metagame, but Toxic is an idea to overcome bulky threats such as Snorlax and opposing Porygon2 if the team would otherwise struggle with them. Porygon2 also appreciates Arcanine as a partner, having its bulk supplemented by its Intimidate, Snarl, and Will-O-Wisp and having problematic Pokemon such as Pheromosa and Buzzwole dealt with thanks to Flare Blitz.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[yuki, 294287]]
- Quality checked by: [[TheKingVillager, 552835], [Giokio, 517038]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732]]
 
Last edited:

TheKingVillager

VGC 2018 Seniors Champion
Good post, however there are a couple additional things I think you can address:

-Add Analytic to the Set and mention it as an option over Download in the Set Comments. Players chose it as a more consistent ability vs Download, as it helps deal strong damage against faster Pokemon like Garchomp and Mandibuzz that would usually give Porygon2 the Attack boost.

-Porygon2 benefits strongly from the lack of Fighting-types and coverage in VGC 2017. However, it is still susceptible to massive damage from the likes of Pheromosa, Buzzwole, and Hariyama and often has trouble taking down the latter two even with the assistance of Trick Room.

-Porygon2 is also threatened by Knock Off from the likes of Hariyama and Alolan-Muk, making it much more vulnerable against opposing teams.

-Replacing Metagross with Celesteela, as they fulfill similar bulky Steel-type roles against Porygon2, however Celesteela can contest Porygon2 in an end-game scenario thanks to the combined healing from Leech Seed, Leftovers, and any additional Special Defense Beast Boosts to withstand Super effective Thunderbolts.

-Porygon2 also likes Arcanine as a partner, as it can help bolster Porygon2's defenses with Intimidate, Snarl, and Will-O-Wisp. Arcanine also assists in KO'ing threats like Kartana, Pheromosa, and Buzzwole thanks to Flare Blitz.

Idt all of these additions/changes need to be implemented, but I thought they'd be worth mentioning.
 

TheKingVillager

VGC 2018 Seniors Champion
Good revision, just a couple more edits:

- While Porygon2's only weakness is very uncommon in the metagame, Fighting-type Pokemon like Hariyama, Pheromosa and Buzzwole can cause it plenty of trouble. (Pretty easy to figure out P2's weakness but should still be stated nonetheless.)

- Its main drawback comes when fighting against bulkier Steel-types such as Celesteela that can shrug off Toxic and deal more significant damage. match its defensive capabilities. (Just a leftover from the Metagross version and should be written to match what Celesteela does.)

-Idk if it's super necessary but I think it's important to state at least something Download makes Porygon2 capable of damaging more than usual. Stating its increase in offensive power is a given and instead you should use the explanation to highlight something that would normally be a 2HKO an OHKO thanks to the boost. Two that come to mind are Ice Beam turning into an OHKO on Garchomp and a 2HKO onto Tapu Koko with the Special Attack boost.

By no means a grammar expert so if anything I said sounds stupid feel free to tell me. QC 1/2.
 

Giokio

#1 Nia simp
is a Site Content Manager Alumnusis a Top Social Media Contributor Alumnusis a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis a Contributor Alumnus
QC 2/2
Only thing i'd like to change is the part here
Download is the most common ability on Porygon2 as it gives it a chance to become a genuine offensive presence notably allowing it to OHKO Garchomp and 2HKO Tapu Koko with Ice Beam
where you talk about download, i think you can remove "the most common ability" part, you're not using another ability 99% of the times
345951-14ef2e968e4ac23eac22b2d291a0e769.gif
 
Last edited:

Deleted User 465389

Banned deucer.
blue = add
red = delete
green = comments

[OVERVIEW]
Porygon2 establishes itself as the premier Trick Room setter in the VGC 2017 metagame with boasting(you use ‘with’ 2 times in the same sentence, this reads better) great overall bulk with Eviolite, and offensive capability with Download. Porygon2 gets access to a good amount of offensive coverage, capable of tackling the likes of Garchomp, Araquanid,(AC) and Tapu Bulu with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. Porygon2 also displays great prowess in endgame situations thanks to Recover and Toxic allowing it to poison bulky targets that it usually doesn't hit so well, such as Snorlax, and then continually heal. While Porygon2's only weakness is very uncommon in the metagame, Fighting-type Pokemon like Hariyama, Pheromosa,(AC) and Buzzwole can cause it plenty of trouble. Its main drawback comes when fighting against bulkier Steel-types such as Celesteela that can shrug off Toxic and match its defensive capabilities. Its offensive presence is also significantly decreased when Download boosts Attack, making it somewhat less reliable. Additionally, Porygon2 is susceptible to Knock Off from Alolan Muk and Hariyama, making it significantly less bulky.

[SET]
name: Trick Room
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt / Toxic
move 3: Trick Room
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Download / Analytic
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 192 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ice Beam is Porygon2's primary damaging move thanks to its wide coverage, being particularly effective against the likes of Garchomp and Tapu Bulu. Thunderbolt is a great coverage option that gives Porygon2 a nice way to break through Celesteela and Tapu Fini, which it would be unable to do otherwise. Toxic is a consistent win condition in longer games, especially against bulkier Pokemon such as Snorlax, and Pokemon it would otherwise struggle to hit such as Alolan Marowak. Trick Room is Porygon2's best utility, providing the team with a great speed control option against the slew of fast Pokemon in the metagame like Tapu Koko, Alolan Ninetales,(AC) and Kartana. Recover gives Porygon2 longevity, allowing it to successfully play out endgames with Toxic, or to outlast opposing Pokemon that don't have their own recovery. Download is the most common ability on Porygon2 as it gives it a chance to become a genuine offensive presence,(AC) notably allowing it to OHKO Garchomp and 2HKO Tapu Koko with Ice Beam. Analytic is a good alternative that provides a more consistent boost to damage thanks to its relatively low Speed.

Porygon2 always wants to set Trick Room up for slower teammates such as Gigalith, Araquanid,(AC) and Alolan Muk, allowing these sorts of teams to snowball. Porygon2 is capable of dueling most Pokemon in the metagame thanks to Download, so it is beneficial to play a longer endgame while continually healing with Recover especially against opponents that don't have a super effective move or access to a Z-Move. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are best used in conjuction thanks to covering a good portion of the current metagame, but Toxic is an idea to overcome bulky threats such as Snorlax and opposing Porygon2 if the team would otherwise struggle with them. Porygon2 also appreciates Arcanine as a partner, having its bulk supplemented by Arcanine's Intimidate, Snarl and Will-O-Wisp and having problematic Pokemon such as Pheromosa and Buzzwole dealt with thanks to Flare Blitz.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Raineko, 294287]]
- Quality checked by: [[TheKingVillager, 552835], [Giokio, 517038]]
- Grammar checked by: [[name, id]]
good job! :blobthumbsup:
 

Astra

talk to me nice
is a Site Content Manageris a Top Social Media Contributoris a Forum Moderatoris a Community Contributoris a Top Contributoris a Top Smogon Media Contributoris a Community Leader Alumnus
add remove (comments)
[OVERVIEW]
Porygon2 establishes itself as the premier Trick Room setter in the VGC 2017 metagame, (AC) boasting great overall bulk with Eviolite, (RC) and offensive capability with Download. Porygon2 gets access to a good amount of offensive coverage, capable of tackling the likes of Garchomp, Araquanid, and Tapu Bulu with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. Porygon2 also displays great prowess in endgame situations thanks to Recover and Toxic allowing it to poison bulky targets that it usually doesn't hit so well, such as Snorlax, and then continually heal. While Porygon2's only weakness is very uncommon in the metagame, Fighting-types Pokemon like Hariyama, Pheromosa, and Buzzwole can cause it plenty of trouble. Its main drawback comes when fighting against bulkier Steel-types such as Celesteela that can shrug off Toxic and match its defensive capabilities. Its offensive presence is also significantly decreased when Download boosts Attack, making it somewhat less reliable. Additionally, Porygon2 is susceptible to Knock Off from Alolan Muk and Hariyama, making it significantly less bulky.

[SET]
name: Trick Room
move 1: Ice Beam
move 2: Thunderbolt / Toxic
move 3: Trick Room
move 4: Recover
item: Eviolite
ability: Download / Analytic
nature: Sassy
evs: 252 HP / 64 Def / 192 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
Ice Beam is Porygon2's primary damaging move thanks to its wide coverage, being particularly effective against the likes of Garchomp and Tapu Bulu. Thunderbolt is a great coverage option that gives Porygon2 a nice way to break through Celesteela and Tapu Fini, which it would be unable to do otherwise. Toxic is a consistent win condition can make Porygon2 a consistent wincon in longer games, especially against bulkier Pokemon such as Snorlax, (RC) and Pokemon it would otherwise struggle to hit such as Alolan Marowak. Trick Room is Porygon2's best utility, providing the team with a great speed control option against the slew of fast Pokemon in the metagame like Tapu Koko, Alolan Ninetales, and Kartana. Recover gives Porygon2 longevity, allowing it to successfully play out endgames with Toxic, (RC) or to outlast opposing Pokemon that don't have their own recovery. Download is the most common ability on Porygon2, (AC) as it gives it a chance to become a genuine offensive presence, notably allowing it to OHKO Garchomp and 2HKO Tapu Koko with Ice Beam. Analytic is a good alternative that provides a more consistent boost to damage thanks to its relatively low Speed.

Porygon2 always wants to set Trick Room up for slower teammates such as Gigalith, Araquanid, and Alolan Muk, allowing these sorts of teams to snowball. Porygon2 is capable of dueling most Pokemon in the metagame thanks to Download, so it is beneficial to play a longer endgame while continually healing with Recover, (AC) especially against opponents foes that don't have a super effective move or access to a Z-Move. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are best used in conjuction conjunction thanks to covering a good portion of the current metagame, but Toxic is an idea to overcome bulky threats such as Snorlax and opposing Porygon2 if the team would otherwise struggle with them. Porygon2 also appreciates Arcanine as a partner, having its bulk supplemented by Arcanine's its Intimidate, Snarl, (AC) and Will-O-Wisp and having problematic Pokemon such as Pheromosa and Buzzwole dealt with thanks to Flare Blitz.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Raineko, 294287]]
- Quality checked by: [[TheKingVillager, 552835], [Giokio, 517038]]
- Grammar checked by: [[name, id]]
1/1 :blobthumbsup:
Estronic-GP-small.gif
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 1, Guests: 1)

Top