Resource VGC Regulation H Viability Rankings

Ursaluna - B+ to A
Ursaluna is quite a terrifying sweeper, its Facades dealing criminal amounts of damage, basically like clicking its counterparts Blood Moon but doing it over and over again. Ground/Normal is also already a very good offensive typing, the Ground attacks letting it smash through Rock and Steel types. Despite BloodMoon's continued dominance, i dont think Ursaluna-Hisui deserves to be this low. The loss of Tornadus and CSR/Flutter Mane did wonders for its viabilty, making it much harder to play the switching game that scared Ursaluna users into using Ursaluna-BM in the first place. Also, without Miraidon, Tailroom has taken a huge hit to its viability, and one of Ursaluna-BloodMoons best traits was it could go both fast and slow, which is less valuable now with no CSR or Scarfed Ursh/Chi-Yu. This also increases the use case for Ursaluna.

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P2 and Ursaluna Hisui Balance has risen up, showing once again just how dominant and oppressive Ursaluna is. This thing is smashing almost everything, and with Porygon-2, the unkillable wall of death by its side, it can basically guarantee Trick Room for Ursaluna to do its thing and shows once again how Ursaluna's use case is just getting better and better.
 
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Porygon-2 - B+ to A or A-
I think we have all forgotten just how unkillable Porygon-2 is. This thing is surviving double attacks from powerful attackers (and mind you, they gave this thing Recover) and we are ranking it the same as Electabuzz and Dnite? This thing is probably the best solo Trick Room setter in the format, with the bulk of a god supplemented by the second most lower-power meta since the start of SV, and the removal of Urshifu. I definitely believe that Porygon2 deserves to be higher than it is, its ability to supplement attackers like the formerly mentioned Ursaluna cannot be understated and it forms the backbone of what is now known as the P2 Ursaluna balance core, a very powerful and nigh on unstoppable if it gets set up core.
 
flamigo needs to go way up, it was massively slept on but:
* fighting/flying stabs hit a ton of things
* scrappy makes it immune to intimidate and can hit ghold
* wide guard is good
* it also has tailwind if you want

downside is it's frail as hell so it kind of needs a sash, and its speed is "ok" but not amazing
 
Rillaboom: S --> A-

this Pokemon is not him

The best Pokemon in the format imo are Incineroar, Amoonguss, Pelipper, and the three Steels, and all three of these Pokemon beat Rillaboom with ease (besides Low Kick vs Gambit I guess). It's still good because Fake Out is good and removing Psychic Terrain is good, but I think Miracle Seed is a way better set solely on the basis that it's a damage threat rather than a utility Pokemon, and even that isn't really good enough to beat The Steels. Giving passive healing to your opponent's Steels, setup attacker, or Dondozo is also really, really bad
 
gonna throw in my own noms and also let people know that we will probably vote on all noms soon so get your posts in

:gholdengo: & :kingambit: A+ -> S

As Lorcy said, please use a steel type. I think these two are pretty much the defining offensive pieces of the metagame with Archaludon not too far behind but it has enough limitations to be left in A/A+. Both of them invalidate swaths of other Pokemon and centralize the game around them when they hit the field, and both had high usage and placements in Baltimore and in VR tournaments.

:garchomp: B+ -> A-

Had a lot of success in Baltimore this past weekend when originally people were thinking Ground coverage would be fairly absent from the format. Rough Skin messes with a lot of common sash guys, particularly Sneasler, and it has a great speed tier and bulk. Low BP moves keep it from sweeping so it probably never goes higher than this but yea def worth the bump.

:vivillon:B- > B

Similarly would like to bump up viv. Fast spore and synergizes so well with not only Garchomp's EQ but a lot of other offensive pieces in the format such as Gholdengo and Power Herb Archaludon. Forces you into very specific lines of play to stop it from putting your entire board to sleep.

Drop

:tauros-paldea-blaze: A- -> B

We didn't see a lot of blaze tauros in these online tours and I think that's mostly because people once again remembered Incineroar is kinda good. Much easier to justify something like Water Tauros, less competition for its type and has priority.

:armarouge: A- > B+

Throw it in with the rest of the psyspam guys, it didn't have a particularly successful Baltimore (or VR iirc?) despite doing well in early limitless tours.
 
Once again for mandibuzz; its bulk is absolutely insane, and it has valuable supporting moves. More in-depth on my earlier reply.
 
Once again for mandibuzz; its bulk is absolutely insane, and it has valuable supporting moves. More in-depth on my earlier reply.
The other day I saw mandibuzz with weak armour, where the opponent used ice shard alolan ninetales to activate there own weakness policy and weak armour, and then started spamming Lash Out (which was double power from defence drop), and start KOing my whole team. Safe to say I didn’t win that battle.
 
don't have time to write a full nom right now but I think mienshao deserves a place on here. it has an insane toolkit and a wide guard that cant be faked out, with fairly powerful CCs that ignore intimidate. ive been running ice spinner as well to good effect to assist against psyspam and rilla, and ive even seen a few with feint that makes clicking protect a massive gamble. obviously not a top tier but i think it's gone under the radar as a pretty good utility mon with insane hits, and also gets knock off for ghold
 
Hey bro,

I really like your tier list but one pokeman I think you're sleeping on is vivilion.
With the tinted lens ability viv can now use its ultra powerful moves despite their low accuracy (ex: sleep powder and hurricane). With how good these low accuracy moves are and their newfound accuracy viv seems fire no? Also an added idea could include its synergy with garchomp because you can earthquake next to it. I dont remember who but there was recently a really handsome vgc player that preformed well with it at the Baltimore regional but don't hold me to that. Anyways, my proposed tier change for it is B- -> S++.

Wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this?
 
Hey bro,

I really like your tier list but one pokeman I think you're sleeping on is vivilion.
With the tinted lens ability viv can now use its ultra powerful moves despite their low accuracy (ex: sleep powder and hurricane). With how good these low accuracy moves are and their newfound accuracy viv seems fire no? Also an added idea could include its synergy with garchomp because you can earthquake next to it. I dont remember who but there was recently a really handsome vgc player that preformed well with it at the Baltimore regional but don't hold me to that. Anyways, my proposed tier change for it is B- -> S++.

Wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this?
While I think Vivillon definitely is a solid Pokemon, it has a couple of weaknesses that I think are problematic. First off, its very frail, and can't really hold anything besides Focus Sash or else it just evaporates. Cloak is justifiable if you really wanna avoid Fake Out but just run Tera Ghost Sash if your worried about that. Also its offensive potential is middling at best, Hurricane hits decently hard with STAB but besides that it just isn't cut out for damage. Of course its main niche is being a fast Sleep Powder mon, but with 89 speed is probably just gets KO'd with that bulk even through Sash.

I think it has performed relatively well for a mon with those stats and those niches, it's definitely a solid mon on the right team. But with a lot of fairly common weaknesses and middling stats I think it's not as far up as you think it is.

I think Vivillon: B- > A- at best
 
We did a full revote on the VR following Baltimore, Dortmund, and Joinville regionals. Here are the results.

Rises:
:gholdengo: A+ -> S
:kingambit: A+ -> S

:incineroar: A -> A+
:annihilape: A- -> A+
:sneasler: B- -> A+
:dragapult: A- -> A
:dragonite: B+ -> A
:garchomp: B+ -> A
:porygon2: B+ -> A
:electabuzz: B+ -> A-
:ursaluna: B+ -> A-

:flamigo: C -> B+
:magmar: C+ -> B+
:ninetales-alola: C+ -> B+
:salamence: C+ -> B+
:sinistcha: B- -> B+
:vivillon: B- -> B+
:corviknight: UR -> B
:grimmsnarl: B- -> B
:indeedee: UR -> B
:clefairy: C -> B-
:gastrodon: C+ -> B-
:weezing-galar: C -> B-

:decidueye-hisui: C -> C+
:delphox: UR -> C+
:ribombee: UR -> C+
:drifblim: UR -> C
:jumpluff: UR -> C
:kilowattrel: UR -> C
:politoed: C- > C
:blaziken: UR -> C-
:mandibuzz: UR -> C-
:mimikyu: UR -> C-
:serperior: UR -> C-
:toedscruel: UR -> C-
:toxtricity: UR -> C-
:tsareena: UR -> C-

Falls
:rillaboom: S -> A+

:archaludon: A+ -> A
:basculegion: A -> A-
:dondozo: A -> A-
:tatsugiri: A -> A-
:ursaluna-bloodmoon: A -> A-
:armarouge: A- -> B
:glimmora: A- -> B+
:talonflame: A- -> B+
:tauros-paldea-aqua: A- -> B
:tauros-paldea-blaze: A- -> C+
:typhlosion-hisui: A- -> B+
:tyranitar: A- -> B+
:whimsicott: A- -> B+

:gallade: B+ -> B
:lilligant-hisui: B+ -> B
:torkoal: B+ -> B
:baxcalibur: B -> B-
:farigiraf: B -> B-
:gengar: B -> B-
:meowscarada: B -> B-
:smeargle: B -> C+
:sylveon: B -> B-
:arcanine-hisui: B- -> C+
:excadrill: B- -> C+
:gothitelle: B- -> C+
:palafin: B- -> C+
:weezing: B- -> C+

:charizard: C -> UR
 
Just doing a breakdown of the tier shifts:

:gholdengo: - fucking goated
:kingambit: - after a SD it becomes really difficult to stop, AV sets have also seen a bit of success being super bulky
:incineroar: - intimidate into sneasler, Rilla, maus and so much more like bascu.
:annihilape: - you either become a beefy wall or a tactical nuke
:sneasler: - dire claw go brrrr (this move has saved games like seriously)
:dragapult: - ddarts go brrr (ignores wide guard and also super fast)
:dragonite: - actually Assault Vest because no pao, glad it found it's place
:garchomp: - zee showed this off during Baltimore but Earthquake with a high attack and higher speed compared to the rest of the meta is absurd
:porygon2: - again at Baltimore, many top 8 with ursa, amoonguss, ghold, and flamigo.
:electabuzz: - EU Balance (the sneas+king+dpult stuff that was really good in Dortmund)
:ursaluna: - check p2
:flamigo: - also check p2
:magmar: - also seen on those EU Balance teams over Electabuzz sometimes, fire-type.
:ninetales-alola: - thanks paul chua (where is Fangame10) but hits hard and sets screens
:salamence: - good on rain and against it
:sinistcha: - redirection, bulk, TR, and burns.
:vivillon: - again with zee just showing everyone how to make a 11 year old rage quit (hurricane+sleep powder with high accuracy)
:corviknight: - just bulky af and sets TW next to chomp.
:grimmsnarl: - makes Archaludon and Annihilape really hard to break
:indeedee: - hit hard with Expanding Force and fast which is a mix up considering we lost iron crown and CSR
:clefairy: - just amazing redirection
:gastrodon: - bye bye rain (also yawn vs dozo)
:weezing-galar: - WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE BAYBEE (if you don't get the reference it's Wolfe glick)
:decidueye-hisui: - I hate Archaludon and Kingambit
:delphox: - Fast psyspam abuser, surprisingly powerful too
:ribombee: - this one, I actually don't really get
:drifblim: - Top 8 at Dortmund on a crazy cool team
:jumpluff: - Here comes the sun, do do do do
:kilowattrel: Baltimore I think, next to Chomp you set TW and spam EQ+Discharge
:politoed: - popped up a bit on rain trap teams
:blaziken: - SableyeVGC
:mandibuzz: - Really bulky
:mimikyu: - ALMOST free TR
:serperior: - I'm personally against this one but sweep potential and support potential
:toedscruel: - WORLD CHAMP DIFFERENCE BAYBEE (who knew fast spore was broken)
:toxtricity: - same as drifblim, same team too
:tsareena: - blocks fake out and grassy glide for Pelipper and Basculegion.

And the drops:
:rillaboom: - GHOLDENGO (not really but the upbringing of threats like Dragapult, Sneasler, and Ninetales-A all hurt)
:archaludon: - FRAUD WATCH (sneasler and Annihilape and base Ursaluna and Flamigo)
:basculegion: - Still busted af
:dondozo:&:tatsugiri: - FRAUD WATCH (haze and clear smog or some way to deal with this duo is on many if not almost all teams)
:ursaluna-bloodmoom: - FRAUD WATCH (fr this time)
:armarouge: - was placed a bit too high initially
:glimmora: - baby wake up meteor beam missed
:talonflame: - idrk why this fell off, probably arch and p2 teams
:tauros-paldea-blaze:&:tauros-paldea-aqua: - overrated, the aqua one still good though, just outclassed by other water and fighting types
:typhlosion-hisui: - the fall of archaludon effected this
:tyranitar: - sneasler and flamigo
:whimsicott: - tailwind as a whole has fallen off a bit
:gallade: - with his psyspam buddies
:lilligant-hisui:&:torkoal: - same here
:baxcalibur: - STEEL TYPES
:farigiraf: - Porygon2 has been better as of recently, doesn't change the fact that Farigiraf (with Rocky Helmet) BODIES mausape.
:Gengar: - Kinda dropped out of relevancy after Dpult stocks picked up
:meowscarada: - again, fell out of relevancy, but still a legit threat
:smeargle: - why isn't this UR
:sylveon: - Primarina + Steel Types + Sneasler
:arcanine-hisui: - Fighting-types and Incineroar
:excadrill: - Expected due to Ttar dropping
:gothitelle: - Perish Trap hasn't been looking too hot
:palafin: - overrated when reg h was first dropped
:weezing: - I'm sorry LovelyLuna, weezing supporters have failed you
:charizard: - Budget Typhlosion-H.

Surface level stuff but yeah. I'll give more in depth views on some of these potentially
 
Its so over Dondozobros
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We did a full revote on the VR following Baltimore, Dortmund, and Joinville regionals. Here are the results.

Rises:
:gholdengo: A+ -> S
:kingambit: A+ -> S

:incineroar: A -> A+
:annihilape: A- -> A+
:sneasler: B- -> A+
:dragapult: A- -> A
:dragonite: B+ -> A
:garchomp: B+ -> A
:porygon2: B+ -> A
:electabuzz: B+ -> A-
:ursaluna: B+ -> A-

:flamigo: C -> B+
:magmar: C+ -> B+
:ninetales-alola: C+ -> B+
:salamence: C+ -> B+
:sinistcha: B- -> B+
:vivillon: B- -> B+
:corviknight: UR -> B
:grimmsnarl: B- -> B
:indeedee: UR -> B
:clefairy: C -> B-
:gastrodon: C+ -> B-
:weezing-galar: C -> B-

:decidueye-hisui: C -> C+
:delphox: UR -> C+
:ribombee: UR -> C+
:drifblim: UR -> C
:jumpluff: UR -> C
:kilowattrel: UR -> C
:politoed: C- > C
:blaziken: UR -> C-
:mandibuzz: UR -> C-
:mimikyu: UR -> C-
:serperior: UR -> C-
:toedscruel: UR -> C-
:toxtricity: UR -> C-
:tsareena: UR -> C-

Falls
:rillaboom: S -> A+

:archaludon: A+ -> A
:basculegion: A -> A-
:dondozo: A -> A-
:tatsugiri: A -> A-
:ursaluna-bloodmoon: A -> A-
:armarouge: A- -> B
:glimmora: A- -> B+
:talonflame: A- -> B+
:tauros-paldea-aqua: A- -> B
:tauros-paldea-blaze: A- -> C+
:typhlosion-hisui: A- -> B+
:tyranitar: A- -> B+
:whimsicott: A- -> B+

:gallade: B+ -> B
:lilligant-hisui: B+ -> B
:torkoal: B+ -> B
:baxcalibur: B -> B-
:farigiraf: B -> B-
:gengar: B -> B-
:meowscarada: B -> B-
:smeargle: B -> C+
:sylveon: B -> B-
:arcanine-hisui: B- -> C+
:excadrill: B- -> C+
:gothitelle: B- -> C+
:palafin: B- -> C+
:weezing: B- -> C+

:charizard: C -> UR
(We'll come back stronger than ever, just let us cook)
 
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These are the official Viability Rankings for VGC 2024 Regulation H. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking each and every usable pokemon into different tiers based on how viable we believe them to be. We encourage you to post your thoughts and opinions on on the various usable Pokemon in VGC and what tier you think they should belong in. Posts in this thread will be taken into consideration when deciding changes to the VR.

The general idea of this is to rank every usable Pokemon in VGC into different rankings that will go in descending order. Since we are evaluating the entirety of the metagame, we will not be splitting Pokemon based on their roles within teams - supportive and offe
nsive Pokemon will be ranked based on their impact that they have on the meta and the teams they will be brought for.

Finally, there will be a Council of experienced players who will discuss and vote on the ranking of each Pokemon. As the Series tend to be fairly short, we will be attempting to keep this up-to-date based on what's going on in the tournament scene and adapting our list based on both tournament results and ladder success as the metagame evolves. Keep in mind, your posts and insights are still very valuable to us and will be a factor in any changes that we make. This thread would be nothing without the community and all of your input, so if you feel you have a good grasp on the metagame and fully understand the forum rules, then don't be hesitant to post.

The voters for this thread were: zee, Finabas, Robbie35646, Borghi, sempra, Spurrific, and marcofiero. A thank you to these users for their participation!

VGC 2024 Regulation H Viability Rankings

S

:Gholdengo: Gholdengo
:Kingambit: Kingambit

A+
:Amoonguss: Amoonguss
:Annihilape: Annihilape
:Incineroar: Incineroar
:Rillaboom: Rillaboom
:Sneasler: Sneasler

A
:Archaludon: Archaludon
:Dragapult: Dragapult
:Dragonite: Dragonite
:Garchomp: Garchomp
:Pelipper: Pelipper
:Porygon2: Porygon2
:Volcarona: Volcarona

A-
:Basculegion: Basculegion-M
:Clefable: Clefable
:Dondozo: Dondozo
:Electabuzz: Electabuzz
:Maushold: Maushold
:Primarina: Primarina
:Tatsugiri: Tatsugiri
:Ursaluna: Ursaluna
:Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: Ursaluna-BM

B+
:Flamigo: Flamigo
:Glimmora: Glimmora
:Hydreigon: Hydreigon
:Indeedee-F: Indeedee-F
:Kommo-o: Kommo-o
:Magmar: Magmar
:Ninetales-Alola: Ninetales-A
:Pawmot: Pawmot
:Salamence: Salamence
:Sinistcha: Sinistcha
:Talonflame: Talonflame
:Typhlosion-Hisui: Typhlosion-H
:Tyranitar: Tyranitar
:Vivillon: Vivillon
:Whimsicott: Whimsicott

B
:Armarouge: Armarouge
:Corviknight: Corviknight
:Gallade: Gallade
:Grimmsnarl: Grimmsnarl
:Hatterene: Hatterene
:Indeedee: Indeedee-M
:Lilligant-Hisui: Lilligant-H
:Murkrow: Murkrow
:Tauros-Paldea-Aqua: Tauros-Aqua
:Torkoal: Torkoal

B-
:Baxcalibur: Baxcalibur
:Clefairy: Clefairy
:Farigiraf: Farigiraf
:Gastrodon: Gastrodon
:Gengar: Gengar
:Meowscarada: Meowscarada
:Sylveon: Sylveon
:Weezing-Galar: Weezing-G
:Zoroark-Hisui: Zoroark-H

C+
:Arcanine-Hisui: Arcanine-H
:Decidueye-Hisui: Decidueye-H
:Delphox: Delphox
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Excadrill: Excadrill
:Garganacl: Garganacl
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Palafin: Palafin
:Ribombee: Ribombee
:Smeargle: Smeargle
:Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: Tauros-Blaze
:Weezing: Weezing

C
:Drifblim: Drifblim
:Gyarados: Gyarados
:Jumpluff: Jumpluff
:Kilowattrel: Kilowattrel
:Mamoswine: Mamoswine
:Politoed: Politoed

C-
:Blaziken: Blaziken
:Mandibuzz: Mandibuzz
:Mimikyu: Mimikyu
:Ninetales: Ninetales
:Serperior: Serperior
:Toedscruel: Toedscruel
:Toxtricity: Toxtricity
:Tsareena: Tsareena

Please post intelligently or your post will be deleted and possibly infracted. If you disagree with a Pokemon's ranking, show evidence or make a strong argument to have it changed, "lol pikachu in A tier" will not be counted as an acceptable post. Happy posting!
I think Honchkrow should at least be C-. Not only does it one shot Golhdengo (Spelling is hard), but also tera ghost Incineroar. Along with having a great match up into a lot of top threats. Because of the its ability Super Luck and Razor Claw, it can have a guaranteed crit Night Slash, which bypasses Atk Drops, Def Ups, and Screens, allowing it to chunk Dondozo for major damage even while its being piloted by Tatsugiri. It also has a bit of a meme with Tauros which is quite unexpected combining Choice Band, Anger Point Paldean Tauros Aqua, and Honchkrow you can crit your own Tauros granting it maxed attack for only 30% of its hp. With Tera Water Aqua Jet it one shots Peliper and other top threats with a priority move effectively acting as a much easier to pull of Azumarrill.
 
I think Honchkrow should at least be C-. Not only does it one shot Golhdengo (Spelling is hard), but also tera ghost Incineroar. Along with having a great match up into a lot of top threats. Because of the its ability Super Luck and Razor Claw, it can have a guaranteed crit Night Slash, which bypasses Atk Drops, Def Ups, and Screens, allowing it to chunk Dondozo for major damage even while its being piloted by Tatsugiri. It also has a bit of a meme with Tauros which is quite unexpected combining Choice Band, Anger Point Paldean Tauros Aqua, and Honchkrow you can crit your own Tauros granting it maxed attack for only 30% of its hp. With Tera Water Aqua Jet it one shots Peliper and other top threats with a priority move effectively acting as a much easier to pull of Azumarrill.
this rounds incredibly gimmicky whereas the other mons at C- have solid, if limited, niches. There are better answers for gholdengo, incin barely teras as is and dondozo has faaaar better counters. Im not even going to talk about the anger point stuff lol
 
this rounds incredibly gimmicky whereas the other mons at C- have solid, if limited, niches. There are better answers for gholdengo, incin barely teras as is and dondozo has faaaar better counters. Im not even going to talk about the anger point stuff lol
Yes, but it also one shots pretty much anything weak to dark or flying, tera dark night slash has a 50% chance of one shotting dusclops which is one of bulkiest pokemon in the format. It one or two shots most things in the format, while also being capable of setting up tailwind, using haze, snarl, helping hand, icy wind, or if you wanna get crazy using Psych up copying Dondozos buffs and reverse sweeping. It has the damage output of a banded mon while being able to still click protect and use support moves. It even has a base speed stat low enough to be able underspeed indeedee- Armarouge, and reliably take them out by being immune to expanding force and being able to live an armor cannon. While also being fast enough to allow it to outspeed pretty much everything in the format under tailwind. You could throw on Perish Song as a fourth move to put a clock on the end game. It has access to some of the best support moves in the game while also being able to threaten, insane amounts of damage.
 
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Yes, but it also one shots pretty much anything weak to dark or flying, tera dark night slash has a 50% chance of one shotting dusclops which is one of bulkiest pokemon in the format. It one or two shots most things in the format, while also being capable of setting up tailwind, using haze, snarl, helping hand, icy wind, or if you wanna get crazy using Psych up copying Dondozos buffs and reverse sweeping. It has the damage output of a banded mon while being able to still click protect and use support moves. It even has a base speed stat low enough to be able underspeed indeedee- Armarouge, and reliably take them out by being immune to expanding force and being able to live an armor cannon. While also being fast enough to allow it to outspeed pretty much everything in the format under tailwind. You could throw on Perish Song as a fourth move to put a clock on the end game. It has access to some of the best support moves in the game while also being able to threaten, insane amounts of damage.
do you have any results from tournaments where it's done well? this isn't the thread for theorymon
 
Alcremie: UR - B-
Alcremie provides incredible boosts to partner's attacks and is pretty specially bulky. It also has a built in Mental Herb ability if you want to run sash, or the alternative is an 100% amoonguss counter. Not to mention its spatk is respectable for a support mon.

Comfey: UR - B
Comfey with triage can make it an annoying support pokemon to deal with, and it also gets priority healing. There are probably a billion ways to use this that haven't been explored, but Comfey definitely is worthy of a ranking on these viability rankings
 
Alcremie: UR - B-
Alcremie provides incredible boosts to partner's attacks and is pretty specially bulky. It also has a built in Mental Herb ability if you want to run sash, or the alternative is an 100% amoonguss counter. Not to mention its spatk is respectable for a support mon.

Comfey: UR - B
Comfey with triage can make it an annoying support pokemon to deal with, and it also gets priority healing. There are probably a billion ways to use this that haven't been explored, but Comfey definitely is worthy of a ranking on these viability rankings
While i do think that Alcremie and comfey can be ranked, B- and B respectively is way too high. B- and higher are placements for good pokemon that have done well, and so far, neither alcremie nor comfey have the results to back it up. Alcremie has had no tournament usage in recent times (neither circuit nor limitless) and comfey's best placement at Lille was 582 (out of 638).
 
While i do think that Alcremie and comfey can be ranked, B- and B respectively is way too high. B- and higher are placements for good pokemon that have done well, and so far, neither alcremie nor comfey have the results to back it up. Alcremie has had no tournament usage in recent times (neither circuit nor limitless) and comfey's best placement at Lille was 582 (out of 638).
That's fair. I think I misinterpreted the tiers, or I made a typo, because I completely agree with you lol
 
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These are the official Viability Rankings for VGC 2024 Regulation H. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking each and every usable pokemon into different tiers based on how viable we believe them to be. We encourage you to post your thoughts and opinions on on the various usable Pokemon in VGC and what tier you think they should belong in. Posts in this thread will be taken into consideration when deciding changes to the VR.

The general idea of this is to rank every usable Pokemon in VGC into different rankings that will go in descending order. Since we are evaluating the entirety of the metagame, we will not be splitting Pokemon based on their roles within teams - supportive and offe
nsive Pokemon will be ranked based on their impact that they have on the meta and the teams they will be brought for.

Finally, there will be a Council of experienced players who will discuss and vote on the ranking of each Pokemon. As the Series tend to be fairly short, we will be attempting to keep this up-to-date based on what's going on in the tournament scene and adapting our list based on both tournament results and ladder success as the metagame evolves. Keep in mind, your posts and insights are still very valuable to us and will be a factor in any changes that we make. This thread would be nothing without the community and all of your input, so if you feel you have a good grasp on the metagame and fully understand the forum rules, then don't be hesitant to post.

The voters for this thread were: zee, Finabas, Robbie35646, Borghi, sempra, Spurrific, and marcofiero. A thank you to these users for their participation!

VGC 2024 Regulation H Viability Rankings

S

:Gholdengo: Gholdengo
:Kingambit: Kingambit

A+
:Amoonguss: Amoonguss
:Annihilape: Annihilape
:Incineroar: Incineroar
:Rillaboom: Rillaboom
:Sneasler: Sneasler

A
:Archaludon: Archaludon
:Dragapult: Dragapult
:Dragonite: Dragonite
:Garchomp: Garchomp
:Pelipper: Pelipper
:Porygon2: Porygon2
:Volcarona: Volcarona

A-
:Basculegion: Basculegion-M
:Clefable: Clefable
:Dondozo: Dondozo
:Electabuzz: Electabuzz
:Maushold: Maushold
:Primarina: Primarina
:Tatsugiri: Tatsugiri
:Ursaluna: Ursaluna
:Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: Ursaluna-BM

B+
:Flamigo: Flamigo
:Glimmora: Glimmora
:Hydreigon: Hydreigon
:Indeedee-F: Indeedee-F
:Kommo-o: Kommo-o
:Magmar: Magmar
:Ninetales-Alola: Ninetales-A
:Pawmot: Pawmot
:Salamence: Salamence
:Sinistcha: Sinistcha
:Talonflame: Talonflame
:Typhlosion-Hisui: Typhlosion-H
:Tyranitar: Tyranitar
:Vivillon: Vivillon
:Whimsicott: Whimsicott

B
:Armarouge: Armarouge
:Corviknight: Corviknight
:Gallade: Gallade
:Grimmsnarl: Grimmsnarl
:Hatterene: Hatterene
:Indeedee: Indeedee-M
:Lilligant-Hisui: Lilligant-H
:Murkrow: Murkrow
:Tauros-Paldea-Aqua: Tauros-Aqua
:Torkoal: Torkoal

B-
:Baxcalibur: Baxcalibur
:Clefairy: Clefairy
:Farigiraf: Farigiraf
:Gastrodon: Gastrodon
:Gengar: Gengar
:Meowscarada: Meowscarada
:Sylveon: Sylveon
:Weezing-Galar: Weezing-G
:Zoroark-Hisui: Zoroark-H

C+
:Arcanine-Hisui: Arcanine-H
:Decidueye-Hisui: Decidueye-H
:Delphox: Delphox
:Dusclops: Dusclops
:Excadrill: Excadrill
:Garganacl: Garganacl
:Gothitelle: Gothitelle
:Palafin: Palafin
:Ribombee: Ribombee
:Smeargle: Smeargle
:Tauros-Paldea-Blaze: Tauros-Blaze
:Weezing: Weezing

C
:Drifblim: Drifblim
:Gyarados: Gyarados
:Jumpluff: Jumpluff
:Kilowattrel: Kilowattrel
:Mamoswine: Mamoswine
:Politoed: Politoed

C-
:Blaziken: Blaziken
:Mandibuzz: Mandibuzz
:Mimikyu: Mimikyu
:Ninetales: Ninetales
:Serperior: Serperior
:Toedscruel: Toedscruel
:Toxtricity: Toxtricity
:Tsareena: Tsareena

Please post intelligently or your post will be deleted and possibly infracted. If you disagree with a Pokemon's ranking, show evidence or make a strong argument to have it changed, "lol pikachu in A tier" will not be counted as an acceptable post. Happy posting!
I think Arcanine-H should be higher, since it can run offensive sets with band rock slide, flare blitz, espeed, close combat, etc, or it can run bulkier sets with Intimidate and Snarl, Wisp and more, being able to run a multitude of sets and still do well puts it above C+ IMO
 
Perrserker UR -> C-
I believe perrserker carves a small niche as an offensive support pokemon due to its signature ability steely spirit. This ability boots all of the user's and ally's steel type moves by 1.5, allowing popular pokemon like ghold, gambit, and arch to have more power by the cat just being on the field. Perrserker also has fake out for more utility, seed bomb for coverage against water types, and gyro ball to pair well with stab, low speed, and the previously mentioned ability. I usually run clear amulet to avoid intimidates and parting shots, but covert cloak or any healing item can probably be run effectively as well, the first avoiding flinches and defense drops and the second patching up perrserker's inability to recover.
(I'm pretty new to the meta game so please don't flame me.)
 
Ursaluna BM A- -> A+
It does so much damage with Blood Moon and has solid spread damage with Hyper Voice. Also, Earth Power threatens so many of the pokemon listed in the S to A- tiers. It has great physical bulk and with an Assault Vest, it also has solid special bulk as well. In addition, it also gets Vacuum Wave, which can finish off low Hp targets. Not to mention its ability which makes moves such as Vacuum Wave deal super effective damage into pokemon such as Gholdengo. I have seen this do 35% to a Gholdengo, winning me the game instantly. It also can break sashes as well as Multiscale. Hyper Voice is just spammable dealing high and consistent damage as well. With Life Orb, you Blood Moon is OHKOing almost everything in the format. Overall, it counters so many things that i was tempted to give it a straight S tier but eventually decided on A+.
 
:weavile:
UR --> C/C+
Has been seeing decent success, using Beat Up into ally Archaludon and Annihilape, having Fake Out pressure, removing items with Knock Off, and removing terrain with Ice Spinner. Not only that, but you out speed Sneasler, so Triple Axel can KO. Even things like Icy Wind and Taunt, as well as having Sash+Pickpocket, stealing things like AV from Archaludon and Choice Scarf from Indeedee-M. Even has other options like Low Kick.

Some teams for Weavile:
https://pokepast.es/cf2643bd1f635e9b

https://pokepast.es/c82c52ea607f7e27

https://pokepast.es/5d9179d4e18984c3
 
Dragapult A -> A- or B+
I recently finished my climb back up to top 500 on showdown and I barely saw this pokemon. When I did it was extremely easy to defeat. The pokemon needs a Choice Band to do any real damage, greatly restricting its flexibility. Since it is so predictable, it is very easy to counter it once you know what move it is doing. The support set is also overshadowed by pokemon sugg chi as Grimmsnarl. While it still is a pretty strong pokemon even with all its weaknesses and counters, it definitely does not belong in the A tier.
 
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