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VGC VGC Seasonal - Round 3 (LOWER BRACKET ONLY)

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gephicka said:
hi, some notes on how to schedule better

1. your opponent scheduled very effectively, they listed a) their timezone (you are expected to make this conversion on your own) b) their availability and c) good times for them
2. from there, your job is to convert the timezone and figure out if this time works for you, and if not propose an alternate time within a reasonable time frame

you had 0 understanding of timezone conversions and were actively difficult when you scheduled with your opponent. in the future, your timezone is gmt/utc -5. we do timezones in terms of their relation to GMT rather than "cst" or "est" because that way it's just simple math to figure out the time difference rather than making it more inconvenient for both parties involved.

a good way to schedule is to say "hi we play in (insert tour name here) i'm (timezone in terms of GMT)" and if you have any restrictions on availability (for example "i can't do this weekend/i need to play on the weekend") or times that work best for you. doing this immediately and clearly is the best way to avoid activity calls like the one you just got

if you have further questions feel free to consult this
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i am expected to put it in a converter but he cant convert cst to find out what it was? And he literally never once tried to schedule the battle if he had all this divine knowledge then he shouldve tried suggesting a time.. except the very vague weekend suggestion in which i have been asking him the whole time..
 
IsaiahMeep said:
i am expected to put it in a converter but he cant convert cst to find out what it was? And he literally never once tried to schedule the battle if he had all this divine knowledge then he shouldve tried suggesting a time.. except the very vague weekend suggestion in which i have been asking him the whole time..
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Its cuz no one knows what cst even is. Just use GMT -X. They for sure tried to schedule, they don't need to give you the exact time for it to be effective scheduling. Please just stop now because this is clearly not getting you anywhere.
 
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Its cuz no one knows what cst even is. Just use GMT -X. They for sure tried to schedule, they don't need to give you the exact time for it to be effective scheduling. Please just stop now because this is clearly not getting you anywhere.
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Its cuz no one knows what cst even is. Just use GMT -X. They for sure tried to schedule, they don't need to give you the exact time for it to be effective scheduling. Please just stop now because this is
R0gue_VGC said:
Its cuz no one knows what cst even is. Just use GMT -X. They for sure tried to schedule, they don't need to give you the exact time for it to be effective scheduling. Please just stop now because this is clearly not getting you anywhere.
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Oh so its ok for him to not know something and not look it up.. but when i do it you autmoatically decide to lose me the game?
 
IsaiahMeep said:
i am expected to put it in a converter but he cant convert cst to find out what it was? And he literally never once tried to schedule the battle if he had all this divine knowledge then he shouldve tried suggesting a time.. except the very vague weekend suggestion in which i have been asking him the whole time..
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For your information CST is GMT-5, that means your 5 hours behind GMT/UTC (I live in Texas) but daylights savings and such can make us -6

You should know what GMT is because it's an international standard, CST is what we use in the US but someone in like Thailand is not going to know what the fuck CST even is
 
IsaiahMeep said:
Oh so its ok for him to not know something and not look it up.. but when i do it you autmoatically decide to lose me the game?
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Just stop this isnt changing anyone's mind and its only kind of just sad at this point. It sucks that this happened, but it's fair and there's nothing you can do now, so just move on and spare us all the trouble.
 
Fangame10 said:
For your information CST is GMT-5, that means your 5 hours behind GMT/UTC (I live in Texas) but daylights savings and such can make us -6

You should know what GMT is because it's an international standard, CST is what we use in the US but someone in like Thailand is not going to know what the fuck CST even is
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Bro you can just look that up
 
IsaiahMeep said:
i am expected to put it in a converter but he cant convert cst to find out what it was? And he literally never once tried to schedule the battle if he had all this divine knowledge then he shouldve tried suggesting a time.. except the very vague weekend suggestion in which i have been asking him the whole time..
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they literally suggested a time to you in their first post, after which you blustered about and were extremely unclear about your own schedule and the times that worked for you. we have standards for scheduling

please go read this and come back: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/tournament-scheduling-guidelines.3642746/
 
R0gue_VGC said:
Just stop this isnt changing anyone's mind and its only kind of just sad at this point. It sucks that this happened, but it's fair and there's nothing you can do now, so just move on and spare us all the trouble.
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I mean it wasnt really fair.. someone deciding a pokemon tournament based of off knowledge of timezones isnt really a fair thing especially when its completley subjective.. he even said in the text that he gave him the win because he knew what aswt was.. that just shows that he made a bad call
 
gephicka said:
they literally suggested a time to you in their first post, after which you blustered about and were extremely unclear about your own schedule and the times that worked for you. we have standards for scheduling

please go read this and come back: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/tournament-scheduling-guidelines.3642746/
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Ik how to schedule.. ive done it before without issue but when someone says "weekend" and "you figure it out" that doesnt help anything either
 
IsaiahMeep said:
I mean it wasnt really fair.. someone deciding a pokemon tournament based of off knowledge of timezones isnt really a fair thing especially when its completley subjective.. he even said in the text that he gave him the win because he knew what aswt was.. that just shows that he made a bad call
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that was not the issue. your opponent gave clear windows of availability and their timezone up front, you did not do the same.
IsaiahMeep said:
Ik how to schedule.. ive done it before without issue but when someone says "weekend" and "you figure it out" that doesnt help anything either
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it doesn't seem like it, if you had looked at the link i gave you and followed those guidelines this would not have been an issue
 
gephicka said:
that was not the issue. your opponent gave clear windows of availability and their timezone up front, you did not do the same.

it doesn't seem like it, if you had looked at the link i gave you and followed those guidelines this would not have been an issue
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He just said his tz and for me to figure out the rest but since my schedule is changing i asked him to suggest a time and he after deliberation he said thus weekend.. ive been pinging him all weekend but he didnt respond.. IM the one whos been trying to battle
 
IsaiahMeep said:
He just said his tz and for me to figure out the rest but since my schedule is changing i asked him to suggest a time and he after deliberation he said thus weekend.. ive been pinging him all weekend but he didnt respond.. IM the one whos been trying to battle
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"figure out the rest" as in find a time within the windows they gave where you're available

you didn't do that, and in fact you barely attempted to do that and were being extremely difficult. it is not on them to google your timezone/vise versa. you need to know when scheduling that you are gmt-5 and then from there just do the math, that's just the standard here— there does not or should not need to be any googling involved

read the thread
 
gephicka said:
"figure out the rest" as in find a time within the windows they gave where you're available

you didn't do that, and in fact you barely attempted to do that and were being extremely difficult. it is not on them to google your timezone/vise versa. you need to know when scheduling that you are gmt-5 and then from there just do the math, that's just the standard here— there does not or should not need to be any googling involved

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I was just pinging his ass tho... the only time left was the weekend and he didnt respond.. at the very least that balanced out
 
IsaiahMeep said:
I was just pinging his ass tho... the only time left was the weekend and he didnt respond.. at the very least that balanced out
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they didn't respond because you were already so difficult in scheduling that they called act, see here:
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Calling act my opponent hasnt made sense in scheduling, doesnt understand their own time zone, hasnt given a time frame that isnt either incredibly vague or later contradicted, and overall general headache to try and schedule.
And now hasnt responded today
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IsaiahMeep said:
Bro how can he just claim act win if neither of us scheduled a time... bro would rather cheese his way to a win than actually play..
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He could have deduced that the weekend is the only tine left and then mesasged me sayinf hey we gotta do this now and since it was the weekend i would have said sure.. because a lot of stuff got canceleed and i was free all weekend.. hence me pinging him all day.. but no he just tryna get free wins
 
Additionally the time he suggested and waited for while i tried to figure out the tz thing was 6am.. so he didnt wait for conformation first
 
IsaiahMeep said:
Additionally the time he suggested and waited for while i tried to figure out the tz thing was 6am.. so he didnt wait for conformation first
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Whatever hopefully the next dude he plays rocks his shit to make up for him "winning" this round because zee made a "decision" to award his vast timezone knowledge.. congratz on your undeserved win handed to you by someone who cares more about scheduling then actually playing the game
 
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