Project Victim of the Week 2.0: ZU Edition

:bw/rapidash:
Rapidash @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- High Horsepower
- Swords Dance
- Morning Sun
COUNTER
resists stab,immune to/resists mystical fire. flare blitz does a good chunk. even if creamy gets an extra turn off off like sawk,rapidash can come in on the cm,sd,heal,and blast it away.
+2 0 Atk Rapidash Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 223-264 (66.7 - 79%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+2 4 SpA Alcremie Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rapidash: 112-132 (33.5 - 39.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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Rhydon @ Eviolite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 HP / 16 Atk / 156 SpD / 84 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance​

Rhydon is a check to the given Alcremie set - Swords Dance allows Rhydon to boost past Recover's healing, while Alcremie needs a free turn to use Calm Mind in order for its attacks to break Rhydon first, despite the Fairy-type's superior speed.

+2 16+ Atk Rhydon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 261-307 (78.1 - 91.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 4 SpA Alcremie Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 135-159 (32.6 - 38.4%) -- 98.2% chance to 3HKO
4 SpA Alcremie Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Eviolite Rhydon: 90-106 (21.7 - 25.6%) -- 0.9% chance to 4HKO
 
:ss/qwilfish:
Qwilfish @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Liquidation
- Poison Jab
- Aqua Jet

Swords Dance Qwilfish is a solid Alcremie counter. (until u run into me running lo 3 attacks) It comfortably takes its attacks and can set up on it, while Poison Jab ohko's with small chip.

4 SpA Alcremie Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Qwilfish: 76-90 (28 - 33.2%)
+1 4 SpA Alcremie Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Qwilfish: 114-134 (42 - 49.4%)
252 Atk Life Orb Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 242-283 (72.4 - 84.7%)
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Qwilfish Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 476-562 (142.5 - 168.2%)
 
:ss/klinklang:
Klinklang @ Leftovers
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 236 HP / 108 Atk / 8 SpD / 156 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Gear Grind
- Wild Charge
- Shift Gear​
  • The same Pokemon may be picked, but they have to have a different set. For example, two people cannot both pick offensive Throh, but having one person pick defensive Throh and the other pick offensive is okay.
these gears have been one of my favorite glue mons since the departure of our beloved snowslash. unboosted gear grind is a guaranteed 2hko, and +1 will always ohko. i invest near-max hp to make use of its sizable base 115/85 defenses and the pure steel typing's natural resistances to so many types like grass, ice, psychic, and of course, fairy.

236 evs specifically hit a lefties number, and with 8 spdef investment, you will never be 2hko'd by 4 spatk unboosted mystical fire after rocks. this means that you serve as a counter to the provided alcremie. 156 speed is for outpacing +1 speed (scarf included obviously) base 105s like mane and gapidash after a shift gear, but that interaction doesnt really matter for this project. however, klinklang will always be faster than an offensive max speed timid alcremie if you are unsure of what set it is (it is never this set unless you are me or obb), so thats kinda cool

108+ Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 232-276 (69.4 - 82.6%) -- approx. 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
+1 108+ Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Alcremie: 340-408 (101.7 - 122.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

4 SpA Alcremie Mystical Fire vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Klinklang: 136-160 (42.5 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
4 SpA Alcremie Mystical Fire vs. 236 HP / 8 SpD Klinklang: 134-158 (41.8 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
 
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The results are in! Congratulations to Marsheaux , Dr Ya Yeet , and OranBerryBlissey10 for winning Week 10 with Rhydon as a check, Rapidash as a counter, and Qwilfish as a counter respectively! Thanks to everyone who took the time to calculate and submit their posts!
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A terror in both the ladder and in practice, this chinchilla’s many multi-hit moves mixed with a MACH 1-esque speed tier makes it one of the best revenge killers, wallbreakers, and even cleaners in one slot. To top it all off, it has good utility with Knock Off and U-turn to cripple and pivot against switch-ins. In previous metas, sets like King’s Rock and Choice Scarf sets were used. Week 11’s victim is none other than: Cinccino!
:BW/Cinccino:
Cinccino @ Choice Band
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Tail Slap
- Bullet Seed
- Knock Off
- U-turn / Rock Blast
Since its debut in the 100+ drops meta, Cinccino has been renowned for Skill Link and its many multi-hit moves, enabling it to power through many foes that are even neutral to its attacks. With these factors in mind, it is necessary to have at least one reliable check to it to prevent it from ripping a team in a flash. What’s your move against the Scarf Pokemon? Deadline is Friday, March 18 at 11:59 PM GMT-5!​
 

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:bw/Sableye:
Sableye @ Rocky Helmet / Leftovers / Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Encore
- Recover
Counter
Sableye is immune to Cinccino's STAB moves and lives its coverage moves. Prankster Recover lets it heal that damage before Cinccino has the ability to hit it again. Sableye threatents Cinccino with a Prankster Will-O-Wisp which would cripple it to the point of not 2HKOing Sableye anymore, making it free to use Knock Off to reduce the damage even more.
:Cinccino::Choice Band:
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 145-175 (47.6 - 57.5%) -- approx. 95.7% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 111-131 (36.5 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 80-95 (26.3 - 31.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

:Cinccino:
252 Atk Cinccino Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 100-120 (32.8 - 39.4%) -- approx. 100% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Cinccino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 74-88 (24.3 - 28.9%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Cinccino U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 54-64 (17.7 - 21%) -- possible 5HKO

:Cinccino::Choice Band: while burned
252 Atk Choice Band burned Cinccino Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 70-85 (23 - 27.9%) -- approx. 93.1% chance to 4HKO
252 Atk Choice Band burned Cinccino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 55-65 (18 - 21.3%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk Choice Band burned Cinccino U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 40-47 (13.1 - 15.4%) -- possible 7HKO

:Cinccino: while burned
252 Atk burned Cinccino Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 50-60 (16.4 - 19.7%) -- approx. possible 6HKO
252 Atk burned Cinccino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 37-44 (12.1 - 14.4%) -- possible 7HKO
252 Atk burned Cinccino U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Sableye: 27-32 (8.8 - 10.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
 
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Reserving klinklang
:bw/Klinklang:
Klinklang @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 100 HP / 252 Atk / 156 Spe
- Gear Grind
- Shift Gear
- Wild Charge/Toxic
- Substitute/Magnet Rise

COUNTER
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Klinklang: 110-135 (38.4 - 47.2%) -- approx. 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Klinklang: 113-134 (39.5 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

+1 252+ Atk Klinklang Gear Grind (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 338-402 (116.1 - 138.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Shift gear kill
 
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Sawk @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge​

Scarf Sawk is a check to Band Cinccino - nice and simple, Choice Scarf allows Sawk to outspeed the given set and OHKO Cinccino with Close Combat, a move that often becomes harder to switch into as the game progresses. Scarf variants of Cinccino lack the power to OHKO Sawk, even if the opponent can get up Stealth Rock first.

252 Atk Sawk Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 576-680 (197.9 - 233.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Cinccino Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Sawk: 210-255 (72.1 - 87.6%) -- approx. 2HKO after Stealth Rock
 
taking ghost 108
:ss/spiritomb:

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Calm Mind
- Dark Pulse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
CHECK
blanks stab,can take knock and u turn,but coverage moves can put a chonk. but wins if it doesnt have to come in hard,if it clicks tail slap then games over tbh this doesnt have the most reliable longterm checks
i have a physics exam tomorrow what am i doing here
 
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:bw/gurdurr:
Gurdurr @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Atk / 60 Def / 88 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Knock Off
- Mach Punch​

ive been loving gurdurr lots lately, and it's a nice offensive check to band cinccino. 88 speed is for creeping uninvested base 50s + 84 ev rhydon, max hp + 60 def is standard, avoiding the 2hko from adamant kang's silk scarf-boosted double edge after rocks, with the remainder dumped into attack.

tail slap will almost guaranteed 2hko you so you cant switch in expecting to recover all the damage off with drain punch unless they miss next turn, but if you get in safely, you will always ohko with drain. additionally, you can switch in to pick off a weakened cinccino with mach punch since you will always survive at least one five-hit tail slap.

an alternative spread of 252 hp/68 atk/188 def can turn this set into a counter, avoiding the 2hko from banded tail slap while still maintaining the ohko with drain, but the power difference is noticeable vs other targets, and it is not hard to chip cinccino into mach punch range. this set is also more susceptible to and worsens your matchup against the uninvested base 50s as previously stated, namely lickilicky, perrserker (although this set is uncommon in my experience), piloswine, and the rare mawile, as well as the aforementioned 84 ev rhydon.
252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 60 Def Eviolite Gurdurr: 180-215 (48.1 - 57.4%) -- approx. 98.8% chance to 2HKO
108+ Atk Gurdurr Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 312-368 (107.2 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
108+ Atk Gurdurr Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 168-198 (57.7 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Tail Slap (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 188 Def Eviolite Gurdurr: 155-185 (41.4 - 49.4%) -- approx. 3HKO
68+ Atk Gurdurr Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 300-354 (103 - 121.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Gourgeist-Super
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Power Whip
- Synthesis
- Poltergeist

i might love it a bit too much

thing feels like it was made to counter Cinccino, its attacks get eaten with minimal chance of 3HKO at best if you don't hit Will-o-Wisp and avoid using Synthesis for some reason. You also 2HKO it in return with Power Whip

252 Atk Choice Band Cinccino Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 108-128 (28.8 - 34.2%) -- 2.5% chance to 3HKO, 99.8% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Choice Band burned Cinccino Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 54-64 (14.4 - 17.1%) -- possible 6HKO
And yes, it is the strongest option against Gourgeist-Super:
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0 Atk Gourgeist-Super Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cinccino: 195-231 (67 - 79.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

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